ExFat or NTFS support on Dell Venue 8 7000/7840? - Dell Venue

Hi everyone,
It's been a year now and I want to check again if anyone has a solution for dell venue 8 7000 to read microsd card in exFat or NTFS?
It's a great device for watching movies, but the fat32 4GB file size limit is pissing me off.
Any help would be appreciate! Thank you!

Paragon NTFS works. Not ideal but it does.
Then with Folder Mount, putting the OBB folder on the card means u can actually install games on this too.

Squirreljiz said:
Paragon NTFS works. Not ideal but it does.
Then with Folder Mount, putting the OBB folder on the card means u can actually install games on this too.
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Wow, root + Paragon NTFS performs pretty well. The NTFS Card's auto mounted as ParagonNTFS Folder! Thank you!

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SanDisk 64GB Mobile Ultra MicroSDXC Class 6 Memory Card Works

Just wanted to report that the SanDisk 64GB Mobile Ultra MicroSDXC Class 6 Memory Card works fine in the Prime's micro SD slot.
I bought it from Amazon, which included a USB SD card reader for $149.99.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005V7WIA2/ref=oh_o03_s00_i00_details
The first hurdle I ran into is the fact that the card comes pre-formatted with the exFAT file system.
The Asus Transformer Prime does NOT support the exFAT file system.
At first the 16GB MKV file I copied to the card via the included card reader in Windows seemed to list and play the file in DicePlayer fine but seeking past 5 minutes would crash the player. When I copied more files to the card and explored the card via ES file explorer the file explorer listed all the directories as empty, even though when I put the card back into the card reader and read the data through Windows everything appeared and read OK.
However The Prime will read and write fine to an NTFS formatted card. NTFS format is preferable to FAT32 since you can't copy files to a FAT32 partition larger than 4GB. As I have several movie files much bigger than 4GB FAT32 would be unsuitable for my (and most people buying a card of this size) needs.
To format your card as NTFS in Windows:
1.) Put the card into the included full size SD card adapter
2.) Insert the card in a USB reader (one was included with my purchase from Amazon)
3.) Connect the USB reader into the computer and wait for windows to assign it a drive letter.
4.) Open up a command prompt (start menu->"Command Prompt")
5.) Type the following command (replace the x with the drive letter assigned to your SDXC card).
Code:
format /FS:NTFS x:
After I formatted the card as NTFS and copied my data to it everything read and played fine.
Asus licensed drivers from Tuxera, (link), but wasn't clear about exFat being included or not.
The manual does specifically call out NTFS ...
Wonder if exFat might be supported in ICS?
FWIW, exFat is potentially a bit more efficient for flash memory, but at least NTFS is supported.
Cheers, wasn't relishing converting my Fat32-formatted 64GB card to something else to test this out (BTW, Fat32 will take files up to 4GB, not two, but still restricting for HD video).
NZtechfreak said:
Cheers, wasn't relishing converting my Fat32-formatted 64GB card to something else to test this out (BTW, Fat32 will take files up to 4GB, not two, but still restricting for HD video).
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Thanks, was noting the FAT32 file limitation from memory, corrected the OP.
Looks like the Amazon resellers raised their price to $199.99. Best price I can find now is here ($161.36 with tax/shipping) :
http://www.provantage.com/sandisk-sdsdqy-064g-a11a~4SNDK2YU.htm
Isn't there a convert tool to convert FAT to NTFS? Don't know if it works for FAT32 or not, but ...
Ah yes, here it is:
Code:
C:\Users\Me>convert /?
Converts a FAT volume to NTFS.
CONVERT volume /FS:NTFS [/V] [/CvtArea:filename] [/NoSecurity] [/X]
volume Specifies the drive letter (followed by a colon), mount point, or volume name.
/FS:NTFS Specifies that the volume will be converted to NTFS.
/V Specifies that Convert will be run in verbose mode.
/CvtArea:filename Specifies a contiguous file in the root directory that will be the place holder for NTFS system files.
/NoSecurity Specifies that the security settings on the converted files and directories allow access by all users.
/X Forces the volume to dismount first if necessary. All open handles to the volume will not be valid.
C:\Users\Me>
I could be wrong but I think convert.exe only works on FAT16 or FAT32, I don't think it works on exFAT. Regardless you're probably better off with a clean format to make sure everything is nice and clean with no unreadable (bad) portions.
I wonder how it would perform (if at all) if you formatted the card as ext4 instead of ntfs.
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Does the card stick out of the side at all? I hear some cards are longer than others and create an annoying bump on the side of the tablet.
quantumalpha said:
Does the card stick out of the side at all? I hear some cards are longer than others and create an annoying bump on the side of the tablet.
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It's raised out about the exact same amount the volume rocker extrudes from the Prime.
JanetPanic said:
I wonder how it would perform (if at all) if you formatted the card as ext4 instead of ntfs.
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Didn't test with ext4, ext4 is a much harder partition format to work with in Windows.
NZtechfreak said:
Cheers, wasn't relishing converting my Fat32-formatted 64GB card to something else to test this out (BTW, Fat32 will take files up to 4GB, not two, but still restricting for HD video).
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You convert fat32 to ntfs with the windows command line " convert" . Did the same with my 32gb sd card
Anyone tried a SDXC in the SD slot of the dock?
TalynOne said:
The Asus Transformer Prime does NOT support the exFAT file system.
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FWIW I got a wild hair and formatted my new micro sd card with exFAT and I am able to read and write using my Prime with ICS
Edit: I also did some tests and it seems write speeds are increased a bit with exFAT over NTFS
I'd love to see some crystaldiskmark numbers from your card!
P.S. also really happy to hear that exFat is working via ICS ... it should be better than ntfs for those that want >4gb files.
can you test out how fast it works? Writing and Reading speed both.
Does anybody here have ubuntu? It supports formatting in all the above file systems, as well as the norm browsing/filetransfer/ and all the such.
I've bought the card a week ago and it worked fine on my Prime without ICS (only got ICS last night; German SKU). Write rates using the supplied SD card adapter on my PC were around 7.5 MB/s.
No need to convert unless you want to use it with a Linux box.
Yatyas said:
FWIW I got a wild hair and formatted my new micro sd card with exFAT and I am able to read and write using my Prime with ICS
Edit: I also did some tests and it seems write speeds are increased a bit with exFAT over NTFS
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Mine also worked with exFat until I put a bunch of data on it. Try copying a 8GB+ mkv to it and see if you can seek/play the entire file. My experience in Honeycomb was that it failed to read the entire file and if I copied more data to the exFAT formatted card then my files started disappearing from any file explorer run on the Prime (though still visible in Windows when connected to a dedicated USB card reader). This was my experience in Honeycomb, haven't re-tested with ICS since everything works great when formatted as NTFS.
TalynOne said:
Just wanted to report that the SanDisk 64GB Mobile Ultra MicroSDXC Class 6 Memory Card works fine in the Prime's micro SD slot.
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After I formatted the card as NTFS and copied my data to it everything read and played fine.
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OH my god are you saying you can read and write all 64 gigs on the card? No issues at all? Is there any disadvantage over using a 32 gig card?

[Q] SD card file-system and the 2GB per file limitation

As far as I know the SD is formatted as Fat32 and we are limited according to its specs. It means we can't write a file larger than 2GB on it.
Is there any way to format an SD card for Nook as NTFS, ext2, ext3 or anything R/W supported in Windows or OS X natively (or with additional drivers)?
nook_lover said:
Is there any way to format an SD card for Nook as NTFS, ext2, ext3 or anything R/W supported in Windows or OS X natively (or with additional drivers)?
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Windows supports two filesystems: fat, and ntfs.
Of those two, Android only supports fat.
So... no.
cfoesch said:
Windows supports two filesystems: fat, and ntfs.
Of those two, Android only supports fat.
So... no.
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That's a shame. I was downloading a video file larger than 2GB and then my Nook suddenly got rebooted and I realized about the limitation...
And the file size limit is not 2gb but 4gb
Montisaquadeis said:
And the file size limit is not 2gb but 4gb
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so it's Fat32 then? not Fat.
Montisaquadeis said:
And the file size limit is not 2gb but 4gb
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ok. 2gb is for fat and 4gb is for fat32 I guess.
cfoesch said:
Windows supports two filesystems: fat, and ntfs.
Of those two, Android only supports fat.
So... no.
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Window also supports exFAT with file size limit, which is exceeding contemporary mobile storage devices maximum capacity, but, unfortunately, Android doesn't support this file system.
As an alternative, I've tried formating my SD to ext4(Ext2Fsd allows to mount ext2-3-4 partitions on Windows), but NT didn't recognize it.
I found a utility called Drive Mount, it can mount storage device with FAT/NTFS/EXT file systems, but it doesn't support Android 2.x.
I also tried to mount my SD manually, but Nook Tablet handles SD card in a way unfamiliar to me.
If you insert FAT formatted SD card, then NT will mount SD(block device /dev/block/vold/179:17), but if you insert ext4 formatted card(I bet the same goes for ext3 and ext2 too), then NT will not mount anything and /dev/block/vold/179:17 will be inaccessible(the device still will be at /dev/block/vold, but both cat and mount will tell you that there is no such device or address).
UPDATE
I was able to mount ext4 formated SD card via /dev/block/mmcblk1p1
NT thinks that SD card is blank or has unsupported file system, but it is fully accessible for both read and write.
So if you desperately want to watch some 4+Gb video, you need to format SD to ext2/3/4 and mount it to some empty folder on your NT internal partition, I wouldn't recommend using /mnt/sdcard, though.
If somebody interested, I can make a step-by-step instruction for Windows users.

[Q] filesystem

Hi guys!
Is there some way to make our razr read/write in another filesystem than FAT32?!
My propose is watch some 1080p movies via HDMI on my TV..
Ty!
I take it they are very large video files? Fat32 has a file size limit of 4GB I believe. The only way is to use a tool to split your video files into chunks smaller than this.
As an afterthought, have you tried formatting your microsd card in windows as NTFS and copying your film across and playing on the razr (assuming you have a card big enough)? As Android is essentially Linux it should be able to read NTFS though I don't have any files big enough to test myself.
NTFS doesn't have that limit.
Good luck!
EDIT: been looking around and if you have trouble, try Drive Mount on the Android Market. You will need to be rooted & busyboxed up if you are not already. This will allow you to read NTFS formatted SD Cards
Yeah, sometimes its about 5gb files... another 12gb files..
I've got android 2.3.5, stock rom, rooted.. and NTFS, EXT2, EXT3, EXT4 are not recognize ):
The drive mount on market, is incompatible with Razr..
Thank You for response..!

NTFS 64GB w/ Paragon - Filesystem issues/ Mass Storage

So I formatted my 64gb sd card to ntfs and using paragon android can use the ntfs sd card. My issue is why doesn't it auto-mount when turning off mass storage? I have to mount it manually to "automatic" mode to /mnt/sdcard. So it's a pain getting mass storage to show the 64gb drive and when it does show up within 5 minutes of copying files the drive disappears from windows and fails to work. I have to set the phone to charge only, then mount paragon. Then go mass storage and it will then show up again only to fail shortly during writing.
On top of all that when I browse to view the files, they don't exist in the sdcard like the files and folders I clearly copied aren't showing up. However some folders and files show up. I don't get why mx video player doesn't see any video files in /mnt/sdcard/media/movies when I clearly copied 2 files into it and they don't show up at all...
It's a Sandisk class 10 uhs 1 64gb stick
format it as fat32
problem solved.
you should need a reason to have it as ntfs what files are you trying to put on that are over 4gb because that would be the only reason why you would.
squee666 said:
format it as fat32
problem solved.
you should need a reason to have it as ntfs what files are you trying to put on that are over 4gb because that would be the only reason why you would.
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Yeah my Galaxy note 2 can handle all hd formats like .mkv so I wanna put my 8gb .mkv's on there to watch in flawless uncompressed quality.
What's up with Paragon? Or what u know... Like it stops working after 5 minutes of transferring files
No idea but android doesn't play nicely with ntfs. Use exfat.
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squee666 said:
No idea but android doesn't play nicely with ntfs. Use exfat.
Sent from Moto Atrix 4g on Neutrino 2.91
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Does exfat work with windows? I need to be able use usb mass storage but I guess i could just use wifi transfer it's slow but better than nothing...
exfat support 4GB+ file limit right?
What's up with paragon? ppl have said it works good but it's clear to me that's it's extremely problematic.
Exfat came with windows 7 and supports 4gb plus.
I haven't tried paragon, it also could be a kernel issue.
Sent from Moto Atrix 4g on Neutrino 2.91
Not sure Android supports exFAT. FAT32 is your best and safest bet, even though it has limitations.
new kernel didn't fix the issue so i guess i have to use fat32... i dont see why paragon is messing up
what about usb otg?
*UPDATE*
I fixed the problem by plugging the usb cable directly into the usb port rather than through the 6' usb extension.
So NTFS is working flawlessly and I already copied over a 4.5GB .mp4 in 1080p and it works perfectly

transfering large films to sd card

Hi when I transfer 8 gig movies to my sd after a while laptop says device has stop responding is my tablet timing out or sumat?
If the SD card is formatted as FAT32 then only files up to 4GB can be stored on it.
You have to use exFAT or Linux filesystem (ext3 or ext4).
format the SD card to exFAT in windows 7 above
thx guys its worked:good:
ash6783 said:
thx guys its worked:good:
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the only problem is that 16GB LTE version has problem with ExFAT support(((
hasenbein1966 said:
If the SD card is formatted as FAT32 then only files up to 4GB can be stored on it.
You have to use exFAT or Linux filesystem (ext3 or ext4).
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Did anybody try ext3 or ext4 on an SD card with Xperia Tablet Z? Does it work?
blacksea17 said:
Did anybody try ext3 or ext4 on an SD card with Xperia Tablet Z? Does it work?
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Yes, I tried ext4 earlier but it refused to read it and made me reformat...

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