Hi all,
I like badly the hardware of the SGF2. I hate badly its software. Here, it is my list of bug fix / half-implemented features that need to be polished / new feature requests. Please, integrate your owns after my post.
1. in the same exact outdoor run (along a river not in a crowded city center), sometimes GPS signal is fixed within 15 seconds, sometimes it did not find a fix after 25 minutes (!!!!!??!?!?!??!?!)
2. exportation of runs to Strava and Runkeeper does not include heart rate data
3. exportation of runs to Strava and Runkeeper incorrect (Strava, RunKeeper and S-Health show different pace per km, some times as different as 30 seconds per km)
4. the running mode displays only one data at the time. You can swipe through total time, total distance, pace, heart rate and so on, but you can't see for instance, total time+pace in the same screen
5. the running mode pace is absolutely WRONG. I have been a long time runner and I have a decent idea of the pace I have. The watch very often shows a pace that is HALF a slow as the real pace or even worse (!!!!). Once data is synced with S-Health the correct pace is shown. I am wondering if the pace shown on the fitness band is mins per miles (despite being set to km).
6. during hiking the altitude was off by 100meters (!!!!!)
7. during rowing activity (I do some kayaking), simply the time is shown nothing else... I guess that if you have a specialized mode for rowing you could at least show the rowing frequency
8. no calendar app.
This thread is a good idea!
-For me the number 4 is important. ( display all data on the same screen: total time, total distance, average speed, heart rate)
-Having average speed during cycling/running
-when running/cycling, and having set a distance: display the estimated time of arrival.
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Guys,
Lot of talk regarding battery life/ standalone/ accuracy of gear S apps for running.
Used both Nike and S Health- to me both were standalone.
Few bullets
1) some stated that even with GPS on and locked that s health still uses pedometer for distance? (is this true?)
2) I'm still confused if I need gear network AND/OR mobile network on/off - does this affect battery life- if I leave OFF all networks...will my run sync once I turn mobile network or Bt with phone on?
3) any way to get splits read to you (cannot believe this is missing)
4) I don't think this device will get through a marathon unfortunately
Yikes! Just did the car test (run shealth with hand out car) and I can confirm that it doesn't use gps for anything other than map. Feel duped
Relies on pedometer I think
Sorry for my blast posts. It is possible that it only records speeds in running range? I shook hands and didn't increase speed. Also noticed a bike option. Perhaps wrong about duped. Lol
Hello Jeffruby,
I've been in contact with Samsung about S-Health on Gear S and they confirmed that they are not measure the distance with the GPS, just the map (Totally insane!)
The Nike+ app is tracking the distance correctly with GPS though. If you have everything turned on (GPS, GSM, Bluetooth), then you would get probably about 4-5h of battery time. My goal is to use it on the next marathon and be able to listen on music for the last 60min of the race but i guess I need to run on 3:30 or something to make this possible
BUT, unfortunally the Nike+ app are missing the most important thing and that's the avg pace for the total run. It just show current pace and I don't really like that since it's changs so often so it's hard to see what speed you are runnig at.
So, yeah, I really hope for an update on either of these running apps ASAP!
HTC, thanks.! What a shame re s health app. How do you think it does distance for biking though if uses pedometer for distance?
The Nike app is close to being good..... I can't see the red on black, while your running you can't read scrolling info and of course the avg pace of run is the gold
Also in Nike app you have to turn on GPS manually, not from the app, if you want to track distance accurately. If you don't it uses accelerometer. With GPS on in general battery life is not good. My longest run was 30K in 2:45 had 18% battery left. Also there is one more strange thing about S health - calorie count maxes out at 1000
OK , so I did another test today - used shealth on bike mode. Stuck arm out car window with GPS on. Kept arm still. It tracked distance completely accurately. This tells me that the s health must indeed use GPS accurately. I think the jog portion only measures speeds in running or walking rates as it did not pass my car test.
The Nike app is a bummer as you can't verify GPS lock before it starts. Also the reasons mentioned prior.
The s health app is easier to read but doesn't show you 1 mile splits on the phone app. This is unacceptable.
Completely agree with the issues mentioned with nike+ Visual gps status before starting, the ability to display the info you want while running, and a always on mode during use would also be handy. Now I have to flick my wrist and wait untill the display goes on. It takes too much time and you're not seeing what's happening before you. A quick glance should be all. Currently i use a gear store app called screen awake for this.
Yeah, i have been logging miles with the Nike ap too. Its not perfect, but it works for me.
I have 79 miles all logged on my Gear S nike ap this year.
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Not to mention Nike app wastes battery with hr but doesn't record it.
The S Health app records continuous HR during your run. I'm not sure how the Nike+ app works to record HR data. Is it continuously tracking/recording HR data? Or does it do it intermittently when you activate the display and wait for the information to scroll (on the bottom of the screen) to HR?
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Completely agree with the issues mentioned with nike+ Visual gps status before starting, the ability to display the info you want while running, and a always on mode during use would also be handy. Now I have to flick my wrist and wait untill the display goes on. It takes too much time and you're not seeing what's happening before you. A quick glance should be all. Currently i use a gear store app called screen awake for this.
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In the Nike+ app there's a small round indicator in the upper righthand corner that turns green as soon as there is a GPS lock. Always on mode is great, but it increases battery drain, so I just do the wrist flick.
Jerome, I think he is referring to indicator if Nike gps locked in before you hit start run. No runner wants the first 0.1 mile not to be recorded.
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Hello Jeffruby,
I've been in contact with Samsung about S-Health on Gear S and they confirmed that they are not measure the distance with the GPS, just the map (Totally insane!)
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Could it be that the person you talked to had no idea what they were talking about (my usual experience with samsung, sadly)?
I am asking because Gear S tracks distance even with data off. After the run, if i don't see a map, only a track of my steps(*), I think data was off, but I still get the same results. I took mine to Europe with me and still got the distance tracked on my runs, even though the SIM card in it wasn't working. Wouldn't that be a sure indicator that what Sammy told you is incorrect?
(*) when data is on, my tracks are superimposed over a map.
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Could it be that the person you talked to had no idea what they were talking about (my usual experience with samsung, sadly)?
I am asking because Gear S tracks distance even with data off. After the run, if i don't see a map, only a track of my steps(*), I think data was off, but I still get the same results. I took mine to Europe with me and still got the distance tracked on my runs, even though the SIM card in it wasn't working. Wouldn't that be a sure indicator that what Sammy told you is incorrect?
(*) when data is on, my tracks are superimposed over a map.
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Hello,
I guess I have to answer both Yes and No on that question
I've tried to reinstall, run without data, without simcard, yeah, tons of different test and it's always way off (map is accurate but the distance it shows is totally off). Another poster in this topic also had the same issue but then he told me to test and choose 'cycle' as training mode instead of running, and, when I did that, then S-Health tracks the distance accurate. So, with other words the application have support for tracking distance in that training mode but of some reason it seem to choose to track the distance by counting steps if I choose running/walking as training mode. So, i'm not sure, maybe your device of some reason have this working on all traning modes. I hope so, and, that someone can explain for me hoooooooooooooooooooow to change this
My gear s tracks distance very accurately when I run gps on. However with GPS off using pedometer it overestimated my distance by approx 0.1 per mile. So gps must work. I did discover as mentioned above, that at high speeds need cycle on.
Not sure if this has anything to do with anything, but my Gear S is the US ATT variety.
In my case, I am fairly certain that no maps are used for measuring distance. Maybe I lucked out.
And when I said my distance gets tracked earlier, I meant the tracks you see at the very bottom of the log in S Health, that correctly display where I took turns, looped back, etc. Without data on, there is no actual map behind them, with data on, there usually is (I had a few flukes before.) The pedometer would not know about turns taken, though.
BTW, I had issues getting a GPS lock for a while until I realized that my phone is messed up. Once I started using the Gear S in stand-alone mode, all was good.
Hello All. I've been searching this and other forums for an answer for several hours now, and haven't found one yet. Any help is appreciated. Just got a Gear Fit, and have it linked to my Galaxy S5. S health, Gear Fit manager, and watch are all updated to latest versions.
1) Heart Rate Monitor. I used the HRM on my S5 while working out on occasion, but found it useless due to the need to turn it on to get a one time reading. Part of the reason I got the GF was to have the Heartrate monitor. Unfortunately, it operates like S-health does on the S5. I have to turn it on to get a reading. Is there a 3rd party app that I can use to consistently monitor my Heart Rate while working out (so I can just glance at my watch and see it). Even better, one that notifies you if your HR goes higher or lower than desired?
2) Sleep tracker - is there an App that will autodetect sleep with this watch? I constantly forget to turn the sleep mode off, and end up with much longer sleep segments than I actually have (i.e. I take the watch off when showering and getting ready in AM, don't put it on till I leave for work, and end up with 45min-1hr more of 'sleep' tracked.
Thanks much!
For part 1 of your question - There is an exercise mode on the samsung gear fit which constantly monitors your heart beat.
Not sure about the second part though I have the same problem - I wish it did like the phone does and identifies when I am awake based on my movement also it would be good if S-Health allowed me to modify sleep time after recording - not sure if it can now.
Hi,
I have a new Amazfit BIP watch, and did a Treadmill training today. So I started treadmill, and cyled indoor for 30 minutes. When I wanted to end the activity, I got the message "distance too short".
Why does that happen? I mean, indoors I don't have GPS, and no real distance to run. How is this supposed to work correctly, and what am I doing wrong?
It relies on the pedometer/accelerometer. If you didn't move your arm where the watch was during the exercise, it won't measure anything. It's normal that the distance isn't accurate, you must settings your personal data (age, height, etc) correctly in the app, and calibrate the distance after the activity (Pace has this AFAIK, don't know about Bip).
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Hi,
I have a new Amazfit BIP watch, and did a Treadmill training today. So I started treadmill, and cyled indoor for 30 minutes. When I wanted to end the activity, I got the message "distance too short".
Why does that happen? I mean, indoors I don't have GPS, and no real distance to run. How is this supposed to work correctly, and what am I doing wrong?
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You can find information about treadmill on this website. johnsonfitness.com.vn/en/danh-sach-san-pham/may-chay-bo.html
Just bought a new Stratos and i am unable to get any data on VO2 max
I have tried - Outdoor running, Indoor running(treadmill), Indoor walking (treadmill), Indoor Cycling, Ellipticals
I have done it for 7 days
I see the Training Load information - says Optimum
I also see Recovery Time
I want to see the following (these are advertised features of the watch).
1. VO2 max
2. Training Effect
3. Training Load - yes i see it
4. Recovery time advisor - yes i see it
5. Real time performance condition
6. Personalized training plans
7. Real time coaching
8. Calories burned - i see it
How do i get to these information on the watch or on the app?
Please help.
thanks
jim
Training effect is shown on each workout in watch and app.
VO2max is calculated only if you do an outdoor run for at least 20? minutes with at least 75%? of your maximum heart rate. VO2max will be only correct if you are training running.
For a short and long term fitness indicator check out your resting heart rate.
Hi! I have followed the instruction from the Stratos manual, took a running session for more than 20 mins with the HR above 75% of the maximum heart rate. I have used Polar H10 as external sensor, connected to the watch and I also had bluetooth headphones connected. GPS was on and recorded precisely the trajectory. Unfortunately VO2max still shows „no data”. Should enable Huami Lab or any other feature in order to compute and display VO2? Thanks!
same VO2 Max problem
Hi, I've had this problem for a month now. I have entered all correct personal data into App re Height, Weight, etc, set activity to Running and reached at least 75% heart rate for over 20 mins, ended activity and saved data - Watch itself states "no data" and the App shows an updated date for that activity's VO2 Max but constantly shows a reading of Zero. This was working fine since I've had the watch until now.. I did update the watch to version 2.3.9.0 around the time the issue started, so of course it's possible it is a software issue, but I've struggled to find many other reports of this issue nor any solutions..
Can anyone help?
Many thanks
Cleebers said:
Hi, I've had this problem for a month now. I have entered all correct personal data into App re Height, Weight, etc, set activity to Running and reached at least 75% heart rate for over 20 mins, ended activity and saved data - Watch itself states "no data" and the App shows an updated date for that activity's VO2 Max but constantly shows a reading of Zero. This was working fine since I've had the watch until now.. I did update the watch to version 2.3.9.0 around the time the issue started, so of course it's possible it is a software issue, but I've struggled to find many other reports of this issue nor any solutions..
Can anyone help?
Many thanks
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Corrupted data, maybe? If you haven't done yet, unpair watch and pair again, if it doesn't fix your problem then do it again but do *not* restore old data to watch when pairing again (it will reset all data on watch). You then may want to turn off the device for about 15s to make sure sensors are also reset and enable continuous HR for at lest 24h and use the watch while you sleep, this will calculate your resting HR and improve futire HR readings.
the firmwere shows VO2 header but readings are missing, this could be possibily because of the fact that gadget does not have built in hardware to measure v02! u would need to buy higher variant to see that reading! quite an old marketing strategy.
Hello,
I recently purchase Amafit Stratos main for sports activity and good GPS tracking.
My decision was made according many good reviews but what a surprise?
After several activities i was very very disappointed by its GPS tracking, im on latest 2.3.7.0. ROM.
For example walking only 6km, it was off by 200m.
The gps map was showing gps drift and bad road tracking, i was compare it with polar m200 and garmin fenix 5.
When it upload data with Strava non of data didnt match, i mean total distance and every km i run.
I even make factory reset, but results was the same, bad unprecise gps and different data with strava .
So i search again on net for someone like me complaining about bad gps accuracy for stratos but nothing found!
Please help.
1. If you have 3D Data on, try turning it off (3D data adds elevation to distance, see manual);
2. Try disabling auto-pause and alerts in activity settings;
3. Wait for a while before you hit the GO to start recording an activity to make sure you got a good GPS fix;
4. GPS works better in open spaces, no nearby buildings or trees;
5. Sync often with Amazfit app to make sure A-GPS data on watch is up-to-date;
6. Forget about comparing data with Strava: it smooths data and does its own calculations so it will always be different (if you disable 3D data and use "race mode" on Strava, it's a little better).
Thanks for your help. I will try to correct my settings accordingly your suggestion.
Thanks again.
I have stratos too. And yes, GPS is veeeery bad on this watch. On 5 km walk difference between stratos, samsung gear s2 sport, samsung s8 phone and huawei mate 20 lite is: Stratos: 4,13 km
gear s2 sport: 4,99 km
samsung s8: 4,98
huawei mate 20 lite: 4,97 km
so it is very bad in just 5 km...
Also heart rate is not very good too.
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And it is not just one walk. I keep track about this for a while. Calorie counter and steps are about same (20-30 difference), but GPS distance is way off....
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And i did all of that steps mentioned above....
200m out? How about around 8 miles out, with the start out in the sea?!!
Apparently I am nearly a world record cyclist too for pace
Too be fair I normally find GPS OK.
And new "great GPS accuracy" today....
8.5 km walk
1.2 km error....
I also have problems with gps. For the first 12 seconds of the run, it does not count the distance.
Suggestion for others, you have problems with gps, please write here: https://support.amazfit.com/hc/en-us/requests/new
lfom said:
1. If you have 3D Data on, try turning it off (3D data adds elevation to distance, see manual);
2. Try disabling auto-pause and alerts in activity settings;
3. Wait for a while before you hit the GO to start recording an activity to make sure you got a good GPS fix;
4. GPS works better in open spaces, no nearby buildings or trees;
5. Sync often with Amazfit app to make sure A-GPS data on watch is up-to-date;
6. Forget about comparing data with Strava: it smooths data and does its own calculations so it will always be different (if you disable 3D data and use "race mode" on Strava, it's a little better).
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Latest firmwares for all watches (Pace/Stratos/Verge) introduced "Activity reminders" (also called Sports reminders on Verge) that are supposed to auto-start and auto-stop recording activities, but they have a bug (besides the fact that I don't think they actually work as of now): even if both are disabled by default you must enable and then disable both options in watch Settings -> General or your activity most probably will miss the first initial and final minutes of GPS data. Simply enable both, quit settings then go back and disable them again and it should be fine.
lfom said:
Latest firmwares for all watches (Pace/Stratos/Verge) introduced "Activity reminders" (also called Sports reminders on Verge) that are supposed to auto-start and auto-stop recording activities, but they have a bug (besides the fact that I don't think they actually work as of now): even if both are disabled by default you must enable and then disable both options in watch Settings -> General or your activity most probably will miss the first initial and final minutes of GPS data. Simply enable both, quit settings then go back and disable them again and it should be fine.
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I tried all these solutions many times. I tested return to 2.3.7.0, later to 2.3.8.0, I also checked PACEficator Project | Everest 2.0.55.1 ROM v1.8, still the same, for 12 seconds the watch does not count the distance. This is about 40 meters, of course, depends on the pace of running. Compared to Garmin Fenix 3, Stratos will always give me about 40 meters less.
I have video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7qgaBDbJIY&feature=youtu.be