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Rooted my Viewpad 7
I created with the adb shell backups, no problem there.
I now have 12 img files saved on my SD card.
boot.img, recovery.img sytem.img and more.
But before I go wild on installing other roms I like to know how to restore those *.img files.
I don't want to install cwrecovery before I know how to fix things in case something goes wrong.
TIA
Install rom just like u install window. If your hardware's not has a problem. U can re-install it anytime you want. Just u backup and synchronize your bookmark and private data. It's not difficult like the other said in board. I'm install new rom everyday for fine the best's rom for myself. JUST DO IT. cwrecovery is the best.
indyend said:
Install rom just like u install window. If your hardware's not has a problem. U can re-install it anytime you want. Just u backup and synchronize your bookmark and private data. It's not difficult like the other said in board. I'm install new rom everyday for fine the best's rom for myself. JUST DO IT. cwrecovery is the best.
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On all the threads here I read that I need (before I do anything else) make a backup of my stock rom with adb, but I can't find how to restore those, nobody seems to know
I don't want to overwrite (flash) my current stock restore partition with cwrecovery before I know how restore to the original rom manually.
CastleGuy said:
On all the threads here I read that I need (before I do anything else) make a backup of my stock rom with adb, but I can't find how to restore those, nobody seems to know
I don't want to overwrite (flash) my current stock restore partition with cwrecovery before I know how restore to the original rom manually.
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What's your HWver and SWver (along with Build/OS info) for this rooted VPAD7? Check it via FTM mode & let us know - and does it use the latest/new ITE hardware?
If yours doesn't have ITE and has an earlier built, Viewsonic's website has both the firmwares (*.zip files) and utilities (SUTL3 xxx) to reflash & fully restore it to stock, rooted conditions in case one of the custom ROM resulted in a "soft" brick. CWR does NOT work with *.img files in restoring and it's a problem especially with newer build/ITE hardware & I have yet to find a stock zip file for mine, but I did saved a rooted version with CWR based on the stock build that I've restored successfully with CWR. One of our fellow XDA geeks here is working on the 2 *.img files and should be posting a beta one soon.
The stock ROM based on Froyo 2.2.2 is very good - rooted so I can use Astro, ES File Manager & Titanium Backup, etc., IMO and the Froyo Enhanced (non-OC) works nicely (OS 2.2.1) on mine too - both could benefit from more tweaking especially with the status bar/interface & launcher, etc. But, neither of them are loaded with bloatware or junks - so you might just want to stick with the stock ones as this is still a relatively "small" circle of users "pushing" the boundaries.
Good luck & have a nice day - hope this helped !
Link to VS's website:
http://vsg.viewsonic.com/ViewPad7/
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What's your HWver and SWver (along with Build/OS info) for this rooted VPAD7? Check it via FTM mode & let us know - and does it use the latest/new ITE hardware?
If yours doesn't have ITE and has an earlier built, Viewsonic's website has both the firmwares (*.zip files) and utilities (SUTL3 xxx) to reflash & fully restore it to stock, rooted conditions in case one of the custom ROM resulted in a "soft" brick. CWR does NOT work with *.img files in restoring and it's a problem especially with newer build/ITE hardware & I have yet to find a stock zip file for mine, but I did saved a rooted version with CWR based on the stock build that I've restored successfully with CWR. One of our fellow XDA geeks here is working on the 2 *.img files and should be posting a beta one soon.
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Thanks
SWVer:3.16K
Model:FMR-0001
HWVer:103
OS is version 2.2 that's not an ITE, am I correct?
Below are the files on the Viewpad site, whitch are the ones I need?
FM6-316Q-0-1008-A01.nb0
FM6-3310-0-5029-A02.nb0
SUTL3_v1.6.5.zip
SUTL3_v1.7.9.zip
SW_3.310_P1_20110201_VSI.zip
BTW The language on my current rom is in Dutch, do you know if the rom at Viewpad also has Dutch, it seems that the most selectable languages I see on my Viewpad are from Europe.
The stock ROM based on Froyo 2.2.2 is very good - rooted so I can use Astro, ES File Manager & Titanium Backup, etc., IMO and the Froyo Enhanced (non-OC) works nicely (OS 2.2.1) on mine too - both could benefit from more tweaking especially with the status bar/interface & launcher, etc. But, neither of them are loaded with bloatware or junks - so you might just want to stick with the stock ones as this is still a relatively "small" circle of users "pushing" the boundaries.
Good luck & have a nice day - hope this helped !
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My stock rom seems to be very good also, for now I'll stick to that one but will play a bit with it to see what can be done to remove some software and make more room via an ext3 partition.
Still not sure what to do with the image files I created, it seems they are quite useless.
Thanks again
CastleGuy said:
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SWVer:3.16K
Model:FMR-0001
HWVer:103
OS is version 2.2 that's not an ITE, am I correct?
Below are the files on the Viewpad site, whitch are the ones I need?
FM6-316Q-0-1008-A01.nb0
FM6-3310-0-5029-A02.nb0
SUTL3_v1.7.9.zip
BTW The language on my current rom is in Dutch, do you know if the rom at Viewpad also has Dutch, it seems that the most selectable languages I see on my Viewpad are from Europe.
Still not sure what to do with the image files I created, it seems they are quite useless.
Thanks again
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Based on what I read & seen, your VPAD is one of the earlier/est one so it's unlikely to come with ITE hardware, so nearly all of the custom ROM here should easily install without any problems at all using CWR.
Mine is 3.41 - FM6-0001 - 107 and OS 2.2.2 with ITE, and under "About phone" in Settings - Baseband PR3.7_125, Kernel 2.6.32.9 and Build 1008_3.350
SUTL3_v1.7.9.zip is the newer of 2 installer to flash the ROM - probably FM6-316Q*.nb0 being the closest one to yours (FM6-3310*.nb0 should be a newer one) Not sure what that SW*VSI.zip file is for but I got an error when trying to open/unzip it - bad d/l or corrupted ?? Both 316R & 3310 flashed successfully to my VPAD7 but since I got ITE, I cannot use it since the touchscreen with Android is frozen - yours should work with it as long as hardware isn't ITE.
I do not have enough info to help with the Dutch language question as my current Froyo Enhanced ROM only showed English, French & Spanish as choices - perhaps someone else running stock/OEM rom can help check theirs for you.
As for the stock ROM itself, I used TB to identify & freeze/uninstall some of them safely as I never used them - but to truely free up internal storage/memory, d/l and use App2SD to Ext3 partition - it DOES make a great deal of difference. If you have a spare mSD card (4 GB size will do nicely for experimental purposes, done it with 2 GB myself) - using CWR to reformat & create 3rd ext partition, moved the saved files/zips/apks back to it - reboot once the initial setup/installations are finalized & stablized - and enjoy ! With over 35 apps moved, I still get about 60MB free up ....
Agreed about those saved *.img files - except for those with the "kitchen" tools to take it apart & rebuild ....
I'm going to use TB to uninstall some apps, I think I'm going to find a faster SD card to try an Ext3 partition, probably that will help to keep the VP7 running as fast and smooth as it does now, great device
Thanks again for you help
I have been reading all the info on rooting,flashing,backup, and recovery.
Please tell me if I understand this correctly:
My viewpad details are as follows:
Android 2.2.1
Basebandversion PR3.7_125
Kernel version Apps_2.6.32.9
Build 1008_3_240
Manufactured 12/02/2011
Swver 3.240
Model FM6-001
Hwver 107
I am correct in assuming this is an ite version and if I root there currently is no stock unrooted rom available to unroot if I need to?
droid5800 said:
My viewpad details are as follows:
Android 2.2.1
Basebandversion PR3.7_125
Kernel version Apps_2.6.32.9
Build 1008_3_240
Manufactured 12/02/2011
Swver 3.240
Model FM6-001
Hwver 107
I am correct in assuming this is an ite version and if I root there currently is no stock unrooted rom available to unroot if I need to?
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Most likely, yours is ITE hardware. BTW, what country/region are you in - the Americas, Asia or Europe b/c stock ROMS available for one region or zone might/should work in another, depending on locales & language requirements .... WiFi issues experienced by some users could, I feel / suspect, be related partially to radio bands intended for region/zone x being flashed and used in region/zone y.
I believe that at least one of the recent stock/factory ROMs cited in the development subforum is for ITE/new pads.
Welcome abroad & cheers
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Most likely, yours is ITE hardware. BTW, what country/region are you in - the Americas, Asia or Europe b/c stock ROMS available for one region or zone might/should work in another, depending on locales & language requirements .... WiFi issues experienced by some users could, I feel / suspect, be related partially to radio bands intended for region/zone x being flashed and used in region/zone y.
I believe that at least one of the recent stock/factory ROMs cited in the development subforum is for ITE/new pads.
Welcome abroad & cheers
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Thanks nice to be here.
I am from the Caribbean so I guess that would be the Americas.
My only complaint with this device is the available space so wanted to root to install something like link2sd. Might not even need a custom ROM if that works out.
In my parts these devices aren't cheap/reasonable so just want to make sure there is a fall back stock ROM in case I need to return for warranty repairs.
Most of the current ROMs seem to be for non ITE devices. Any hopes that there will be more ITE custom ROMs anytime soon an o/c one for a little speed boost would be nice.
Regards
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from the Caribbean so I guess that would be the Americas .... complaint with this device is the available space so wanted to root to install something like link2sd. Might not even need a custom ROM if that works out .... in my parts these devices aren't cheap/reasonable so just want to make sure there is a fall back stock ROM in case I need to return for warranty repairs .... current ROMs seem to be for non ITE devices .... an o/c one for a little speed boost would be nice. Regards
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The stock ROM isn't loaded with bloatware & with 3G unlocked, the device is fine for non-power, speed freaks chasing the latest dual core CPU, LOL - but, it's easy to fill up internal space & memory. Without rooting, it's difficult to load & experiment with A2SD, do Titanium Backup & use ES File Manager or Astro - but even stock ROM has full access to Google Market, so it's pretty cool.
Agreed on high prices down in the islands & even worst in the Bermudas and with little to no competition, unless one can bring them back from mainland USA and not have to pay import duties.
I've tested just about every available custom ROM floating around - Amalgation's EU v1.7 ITE ROM is what I use, it's responsive & adapted for ITE, 3G worked on AT&T and T-Mobile's GSM network + WiFi, and managed to install DT's A2SD on it, so it freed up lots of space & memory - using a 16GB mSD card.
As for overclocking, it's difficult if not impossible to do it without the ITE device driver, contacted tech. support & requested them - haven't heard a word from them, so not hopeful - without it, the handful of developers around won't be able to do anything.
Thanks for your help So one last question:
When I root can I restore to stock unrooted with any of these Roms found here :
vsg.viewsonic.com/ViewPad7 (sorry I'm not allowed to post links)
Just in case I need to return for warranty repairs.
Thanks
droid5800 said:
When I root can I restore to stock unrooted with any of these Roms found here : vsg.viewsonic.com/ViewPad7
Just in case I need to return for warranty repairs.
Thanks
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The newest one in the link is for ITE and if I recall, based on EU rom, and should be good for your device (for flashing back to stock, if ever needed, using the SUTL3 utility as it need the image to be in *.nb0 format and not an update.zip)
Yes, use either One Click v1.7 (newer ones not always work) method or Gingerbreak apk (which I find easier) to root & install CWM Recovery - once you do that, before doing anything else - do a Backup of your stock ROM first, it will be saved on the mSD card (and, to the PC or usb/portable hdd device) - before doing anything else.
If you are using both 3G & WiFi for data access, make a note of your settings (including under the wireless/advanced tab - check that your MAC address is shown).
Your saved CWM image files can be restored - returning it to near stock condition, except for rooting. If you feel comfortable enough at that point, do a Restore from CWM after a full wipe, then let it reboot & viola - you "stock" rom again.
AFAIK, newer ITE hardware-based vpad7 have 3 custom ROM to work with -
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1264647
Froyo Enhanced is nice & simple, very close to stock with a few Apps gone to make room, simple to flash & setup and WiFi working, a good starting point to try & fall back upon.
TJ's FM6 is designed for OC kernel and non-ITE rom, but with a patched kernel, will work - a bit more challenging to setup, but it's just as stable.
EU'v latest V1.7 ITE rom is my personal ROM of choice for daily use, very stable & smooth, responsive - developer is working toward a final release, due out soon. It support App2SD for ext3 with CWM Recovery, not as simple to get everything working together - but it does, patience needed. AND, the backup ROM is very important in case something didn't go "right" - sometimes, another pass with flashing the zip will get it, or, just restore to earlier known working version as saved.
Should be tons of fun & hours of flashing, sit back, read & take notes of steps - brew up a nice cup of coffee or tea, and enjoy the challenge - this isn't the faster Galaxy tablets, but for it's designed for - it's great (Flash 10.x not really going to work, just stay away - I still enjoy YouTube on it ....) Once configured & logged into Google Market, the newest update will be shown & downloaded, so don't worry about missing a few Apps as it's full access to nearly everything, free & paid.
Cheers !
Thanks for all the information. Spent the last few days doing a lot of reading. Ready to jump in.
The Froyo 2.2 Enhanced I notice the link was taken down by developer pending a newer version with better ITE support. Do you have a copy that works with the ITE hardware?
Found a link for superoneclick here: megaupload.com/?d=7S2CI6OY is that the correct version? Couldn't find any link to 1.7 in forums.
Thanks
droid5800 said:
Froyo 2.2 Enhanced link was taken down by developer pending a newer version with better ITE support. Do you have a copy that works with the ITE hardware?
Found a link for superoneclick here: megaupload.com/?d=7S2CI6OY is that the correct version? Couldn't find any link to 1.7 in forums.
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Hmm, oh yes - I read that a while ago, use this link to download - it worked for me with ITE hardware. There is no need to patch or use a different kernel. Just backup your original rom & test it by restoring first, do a full system/cache/dalvik wipe - then flash it, reboot for 1st. time, set it up past the activation screen, and enjoy.
http://www.multiupload.com/C3BM5IVRXJ
Your discovery is correct, the older SOC v1.7 to achieve root from shortfuse - user experience varied, some find it easy & others find it difficult.
Here's link to Gingerbreak v1.2 - please read the info/page & notes - alternative to SOC v1.7 just in case.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1044765
Either one of them could trigger antivirus/firewall warnings & alerts, it's typical depending on what you use - turn them OFF while rooting - once you get it done, you can switch them all ON again.
Just checked my email account used for various tech. support request, still no reply or release of ITE device drivers for the pad, NOT good - without it, developers will find it ---- to get OC kernel, etc.
Definitely no Ice Cream Sandwich for our device, not even Honeycomb, I'm afraid .... oh, well - we make the best use of what we got !
Letitride said:
Hmm, oh yes - I read that a while ago, use this link to download - it worked for me with ITE hardware. There is no need to patch or use a different kernel. Just backup your original rom & test it by restoring first, do a full system/cache/dalvik wipe - then flash it, reboot for 1st. time, set it up past the activation screen, and enjoy.
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The backup you are referring too is a NANDROID backup with CWR or do I backup the individual partitions to *.img files. As I understand it there i currently no way to restore the *.img files is that correct or have I misunderstood? Additionally is there any point to create these image files.
Regards
Use CWM Recovery to create Nandroid backup of your existing stock ROM, just in case - restoring it will bring it as close to rooted stock "condition" as possible. Flashing the *.nb0 file with SUTL3 will unroot it & make the pad 100% back to stock. It only take a few extra minutes and will sit on the mSD card just in case it's needed.
Under CWM Recovery's Advanced Menu (I'm on v5.x that work with A2SD and ext3 partition) - you can selectively go back in, highlight & restore, say, the recovery.img file after flashing a ROM (which has the working non-OC stock kernel) - which is the patch needed to work with TJ Style's ROM.
I'm learning & discovering something new each week on squeezing more out of the pad - yet to explore the newest ext4 apps, that's a challenge. Although, I'm very happy & pleased with freeing up so much internal space & rom memory with A2SD and ext3,
Have fun !
Letitride thank you for your valuable insight and information it was truly appreciated.
I have rooted, installed CWM and made a nandroid backup. Cool considering when I started in on this thread a few days ago I new nothing about any of this stuff.
Thinking about experimenting with ROMs tomorrow can't have all the fun tonight.
What are your thoughts on A2SD I know you use it but does it shorten the life of the sdcard significantly and is it laggy. I was doing some research on just installing that rather than a custom ROM but a lot of the comments were negative.
You haven't steered me wrong so wanted your take.
One last thing completely unrelated is there a way to get rid of the autorun CD that loads when you plug device into PC it's annoying. Don't want to disable autorun on PC.
Again thanks for your assistance.
droid5800 said:
rooted, installed CWM and made a nandroid backup. when .... a few days ago I (k)new nothing about. Thinking about experimenting with ROMs .... can't have all the fun tonight.
your thoughts on A2SD .... research on just installing that rather than a custom ROM but .... comments were negative.
completely unrelated is there a way to get rid of the autorun CD that loads when you plug device .... Don't want to disable autorun on PC.
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YES - excellent, well done & pat yourself on the shoulder for success. So you are still running your stock rom, correct - I would make sure Titanium Backup, Astro or ES File Explorer and/or Root Explorer are installed, and, get comfortable with using them. Froyo Enhanced would be a safe 1st. custom ROM to try, very close to stock with tweaks & minor customization, easy to adapt for one's own.
As far as A2SD is concerned, if you are referring to DT's verison, I do not have any problems with it at all running on ext3 partition with the EU V1.7 ITE ROM - it's best to upgrade CWM to v5.x first and be prepared for the mSD card to be reformatted, thus losing any & all stored data and having to restore it from a safe backup location (i.e. from the PC or portable HDD, usb device, etc.) It's a bit tricky for ITE hardware pads, but several others using my detailed notes also managed to do it - (and, that's why it's so important to have backup, run TB backup and CWM backup, and, to make sure your 3G and WiFi settings are saved & working along the way)
I tried several other App2SD apps on the "Market" and they're okay, the last one that I used was App2SD by Sam Lu (as listed) but even that was limited as it wasn't using ext3 or ext4 - whereas DT's A2SD did it with ease and really freed up quite a bit (I have about 60 Apps loaded plus nearly all of the standard Google Apps like Talk, Voice, Gmail, Maps/Navigation, Facebook along with Twitter & YouTube installed - which easily overwhelmed the pad's resources otherwise.) I would recommend installing it - just make it a habit to run CWM Backup & TB Backup at major milestones or checkpoints, so that if something go wrong, just go into Recovery & restore the last working one.
The mSD card is inexpensive enough vs. the price paid for the pad itself, so I'm okay if I need to replace it sooner - I use a 2nd. mSD card (smaller at 8GB) to test & experiment, and, once I'm comfortable with major changes made & have time, I transition back to the bigger 16G mSD card.
Additional ideas: install alternate launchers (Go EX, ADW & my preferred - VTL.Launcher) and keyboard (Gingerbread, Go or Swype beta (via registration & emailed link to download) and Sense-themed Fancy Widgets, and, Dolphin HD browser, and WidgetSoid, Moon+ Reader, and, of course, Lookout Security. These & others of your own choosing will give you hours of fun in practical hands-on experimentation.
All in all, my configuration has been stable & solid for the past month, and I have yet run into any problems with freezes or FC, lost of data or issues with either the hardware or ROM - my "regular" smartphone is faster, quicker & fancier, but there's something about the 7" screen size, it keep me occupied & entertained for hours - and battery life while on standby mode is quite good.
Lastly, not much one can do about that autorun feature on the PC when the pad is connected via the mini-usb cable, I just hit the Esc key or Cancel to bypass all those messages & prompts (it's just like other usb devices & mobile phones, once they sync. up with the pc, the Apps are awaken and ....)
Have fun over the weekend with the pad & experiment
Hi,
Im a newbee also in android rooting, i had some question and clarification about some terms and hope someone can share their knowledge.
Here are some of my questions:
Im confused with the img backup file of each partition. Does redirecting again to each partition mean restoring the individual img file to each partition ex"cat /sdcard/mtd3_recovery.img > /dev/mtd/mtd3"
or we need a tool like in linux which is DD or DDRESCUE or something else.
For instance my backup individual partition img file i created before i install costum rom. If im correct in restoring the individual image file to each mtd partition is possible does it means im
back to the state where i used the original stock or before i installed the costum rom. Its like in linux where if u restore a dd root image file to the partition you will back to the state where you created
the image backup.
Does NANDROID backup means using a CWR recovery to backup the original/stock+rooted rom and restoring it using the same process from a costum rom will means im back to the state of original/stock+rooted rom
Im still in the rooted state right now. i just want to understand a few things like restoring to original/stock+rooted before i procedd to installing costum rom and other tweeking on the device.
Hope someone can share some info.
Thanks in advance.
hi,thats me rooted my galaxy so whats the next step ? i have superuser & darkyrom 2 installed & added the zimage to sdcard and installed it,whats the best apps etc to install now im rooted & how do i install the custom roms to give my phone a better look ?
any advice would be most gratefull as im new to this rooting
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hi,thats me rooted my galaxy so whats the next step ? i have superuser & darkyrom 2 installed & added the zimage to sdcard and installed it,whats the best apps etc to install now im rooted & how do i install the custom roms to give my phone a better look ?
any advice would be most gratefull as im new to this rooting
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The plan is to choose a ROM which suits your preferences, e.g. no homescreen lag, better camera apk, better access to the CPU. Try a few, I use Villianrom, which suits me really but there are loads more.
Enjoy
First is first
Backup ur efs
Then titanium
Then cwm full backup
This will keep u busy for today, you'll thank me later
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hi,as i said im new to this rooting,how do i do those things ? ive looked at cwm is that only accessible through reboot hold volume up,power & home button ?whats backup efs ?? and is titanium the app which is £4.99
kenf2210 said:
hi,as i said im new to this rooting,how do i do those things ? ive looked at cwm is that only accessible through reboot hold volume up,power & home button ?whats backup efs ?? and is titanium the app which is £4.99
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your /efs folder is in comparison to apps, data etc. the most important thing to backup since it is the only thing that cannot be restored without a proper backup if it is screwed up by a bad flash. it basically contains your product code, imei and other sensible phone related data. you can backup it easily with hellcat's kTool app from market. For safety reasons you should copy your /efs backup img from your sdcard to your pc afterwards.
Concerning your other questions, just read through the few stickies in the general and android original dev. section. all what you look for is explained there very detailed.
kenf2210 said:
hi,as i said im new to this rooting,how do i do those things ? ive looked at cwm is that only accessible through reboot hold volume up,power & home button ?whats backup efs ?? and is titanium the app which is £4.99
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If u rooted with cf kernel n haven't flashed another then yes, up+home+power >back up. Use hellcats k tool to back up efs (its on market or his thread in dev section) titanium back up is the 1st thing that comes up if you search 'titanium' on market the pro version is costs but is worth it.
Seriously tho, if you're new to android and have never rooted, give it a few weeks first otherwise you won't know what is 'better' and if you don't and end up having problems with roms you'll end up crying that you should have got an Iclone.. Just my opinion from observing this forum for a while
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hofinho said:
your /efs folder is in comparison to apps, data etc. the most important thing to backup since it is the only thing that cannot be restored without a proper backup if it is screwed up by a bad flash. it basically contains your product code, imei and other sensible phone related data. you can backup it easily with hellcat's kTool app from market. For safety reasons you should copy your /efs backup img from your sdcard to your pc afterwards.
Concerning your other questions, just read through the few stickies in the general and android original dev. section. all what you look for is explained there very detailed.
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Damn... Beat me to it
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hi,this rooting seems pretty confusing as i used to be an iphone user and jailbreaking was simple but this seems to be difficult to follow,ive been looking around the forum for step by step guide on how to install roms etc but just cant find them,would like to test this out to see if it was worth rooting but at the moment its done nothing for me or the phone its just added another few apps,it seems to me like its a lot of hassle to get different roms etc onto the phone & whats radio etc do i need to update other stuff when i try to put roms on & kernels whats that all about ????sorry chaps but im clueless to all this stuff maybe i should have stayed with apple.
and the efs backup has been done with hellcat & when connected to pc there is no backup file on my sd card ??
kenf2210 said:
hi,this rooting seems pretty confusing as i used to be an iphone user and jailbreaking was simple but this seems to be difficult to follow
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My advice is to stay away from flashing ROMs, kernels and rooting.
Use it like you used your iPhone, install games and apps from the Android Market and enjoy your phone.
Unless you've seen something you particularly want from any of the above, the risks for you are not worth it.
thinking that myself mate but how do i put the phone back to the way it was before i rooted ?
how to remove the root & go back to original way
As far as I can tell, you haven't said how you rooted - looks like you flashed a different, pre-rooted kernel. There's not a big risk staying rooted, just take extra care if you install something and you get a popup on your phone telling you it's asking for root (superuser request).
it was this
DooMLoRD_v2_ROOT-zergRush-busybox-su.zip
and installed zimage to my sd card and installed onto phone so i have superuser and darkyrom2 installed ive done nothing else.
mucking around with roms & kernels etc seem a load of hassle & dont want to destroy the phone with wrongly installed roms etc & what happens when a new update come out through kies ? do i just install it or what ?
can i not just remove the root by doing a factory reset or something ?
Of course you can easily completely revert back to your original set-up. For doing that just type *#1234# in your dialer and post here the output. I or someone else can point you to your original rom.
BUT you will never get a taste of in my opinion the greatest advantage of android: it's customability.
I promise you, you won't regret the effort it takes to educate yourself a bit about the basic knowledge you need, to do all the cool stuff which is only possible rooted. It is enough to spend some time to read regulary here on xda and you will see that everything is really not that hard. You don't have to fear, it is almost impossible to brick your phone if you just have a backup of your /efs folder, don't flash the firmware of another device on your phone and don't disconnect your usb cable in the one second a different bootloader gets flashed. I have flashed and hardcore abused my sgs1 more then 500 times (no exaggeration, i am a dev for sgs1 ) and my sgs2 also very often. Everything ( while testing stuff i went through scary errors and a literally death phone more than once) is recoverable except in the three situations i mentioned above. And you can ALWAYS go back to stock later on no matter what you have messed up.
Have a look again at the content of your sdcards (also in folders and subfolders), the efs.img or .tar has to be somewhere there, save it on your pc and the party can be started
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And because i am a nice guy and don't want you to go back to apple here my advice for your first custom rom :
1. Follow exactly the instructions there: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1103399
Take your time to read through, everything is explained very well
2. Then you are ready to flash your first custom rom: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1288850
this is in my opinion the most stable atm. Read through the first posts, download the 2.9 zip from the post, copy it to your internal sd
3. Switch your device off and boot into recovery by pressing and holding volume up, home and power button at the same time until samsung gti9100 appears on the screen (about 5 sec.), then release the three buttons and you are in recovery mode. You can navigate with vol up and vol down and power or home button in the recovery mode. Navigate to "install from sdcard"/"choose zip from sdcard" and then select the file you have downloaded. Confirm and relax. That's all... easy or?
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thanks for your help mate i really appreciate it,i would like to give the root a go & see if i can get the roms working etc im just scared that i muck it up, i suppose i will just need to be patient & try this out,first is to find this ems backup on my phone so i can save to my pc,ive plugged it in & its on coming up sd card & not internal memory ? any idea why that is ?
its cool about last bit ive just plugged it in again & ive found the efs.img
& is this the rom Hyperdroid Androidmeda v2.9.0 ?
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thanks for your help mate i really appreciate it,i would like to give the root a go & see if i can get the roms working etc im just scared that i muck it up, i suppose i will just need to be patient & try this out,first is to find this ems backup on my phone so i can save to my pc,ive plugged it in & its on coming up sd card & not internal memory ? any idea why that is ?
its cool about last bit ive just plugged it in again & ive found the efs.img
& is this the rom Hyperdroid Androidmeda v2.9.0 ?
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The efs.img is stored where hellcat directed it to, i just didn't remember where. but yes it is the right file.
Yes this is the rom. You will be surprised about the speed difference compared to stock
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hi,done it mate thanks for your help,up & running with my first rom yippeee,i take it that i can only put certain roms on the phone ? & what happens with samsung kies if it come up with new firmware update what do i do ?
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hi,done it mate thanks for your help,up & running with my first rom yippeee,i take it that i can only put certain roms on the phone ? & what happens with samsung kies if it come up with new firmware update what do i do ?
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From now on you can easily forget about kies, roms here will mostly provide newest firmware long before it is out via kies. Also with odin you can always much more comfortable flash the same firmware as comes over kies.
You can flash any rom you want as long as it is for your device (gt i9100).
As i said, take your time and read across the forum and always follow the thread about the rom you run and your knowledge will improve from alone have fun bro
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hi,im thinking about trying a diffrent rom on my phone,i have this rom at the moment
[ROM][2.3.5][26NOV'11]δ-HyperDroid-Androidmeda-v3.0[Ker:TJKv1.0| Update3 |2.6.35.14]
is there anything better looking out there as this rom didnt seem to change much look wise,and what about themes ? can i put them on the phone ?
also if i install a new rom will it take everything of the phone apps etc ?
Hello everyone!!
I know it's not the subject, but this being my first time posting here let me start by thanking all of the developers and collaborators for the great works in this community! I have already benefited from a few tutorials and files disposed here, so thanks for everything so far! :good:
Back to the subject now =)
Although I am using an official rom in my Xperia Neo, 2.3.4 (4.0.2.A.0.42), I made several modifications to it and I couldn’t find a similar thread involving a "modified official rom", I only read threads describing how to make a simple FTF backup of an "untouched official rom" through SEUS, which I presume that won't work in my case. So I hope the more experienced people can give me some directions!
My device is currently rooted and the bootloader is also unlocked through the official Sony method. I substituted the original kernel for the Inteks so that I could use cpu overclocks, removed all the bloatware and integrated some updates and a few new apps in the system through link2sd.
Now I'd like to make a backup of this modified rom before I flash new roms to the device. For what I understood so far, the recovery nandroid backup system will save everything, including installed apps and configurations, right? I'd like to make just a simple rom backup.
I'm afraid that this nandroid "full backup" could decrease the performance after restoration. If I perform a factory reset prior to the nandroid backup, could it minimize the chances of having problems after restoration?
I'm asking this in case there is no manner to create a .ftf file… And, what you guys think about both types of backup, am I getting the wrong impression about nandroid or .ftf files are really better and/or safer??
I installed the app Rom Manager to check its features. It seems it only performs nandroid backups as well directing to the recovery (hope I got it right), but I ended up noticing an issue. The app asks to install or update the CWM Recovery, I tried to update but I get a message saying my device is not compatible.
The current recovery installed in my Neo is "CWM-based Recovery v5.0.2.7-nAa-r2".
Should I update it? And if it's the case, how should I do it??
Is my device really incompatible with Rom Manager, or that message I got was because of the old recovery version installed in my Neo??
(I read about this kind of incompatibility with some devices, just wanna check if it's the case with my phone and if there is a new recovery for Xperia Neo that is compatible with Rom Manager)
Sorry about the long text and so many questions in a single post, but I really want to understand more about this stuff, all the changes in my phone were done separately during more than a year, so I am not much used to these procedures.
I would appreciate any help! Thanks for the attention!!
KenxirC said:
Hello everyone!!
I know it's not the subject, but this being my first time posting here let me start by thanking all of the developers and collaborators for the great works in this community! I have already benefited from a few tutorials and files disposed here, so thanks for everything so far! :good:
Back to the subject now =)
Although I am using an official rom in my Xperia Neo, 2.3.4 (4.0.2.A.0.42), I made several modifications to it and I couldn’t find a similar thread involving a "modified official rom", I only read threads describing how to make a simple FTF backup of an "untouched official rom" through SEUS, which I presume that won't work in my case. So I hope the more experienced people can give me some directions!
My device is currently rooted and the bootloader is also unlocked through the official Sony method. I substituted the original kernel for the Inteks so that I could use cpu overclocks, removed all the bloatware and integrated some updates and a few new apps in the system through link2sd.
Now I'd like to make a backup of this modified rom before I flash new roms to the device. For what I understood so far, the recovery nandroid backup system will save everything, including installed apps and configurations, right? I'd like to make just a simple rom backup.
I'm afraid that this nandroid "full backup" could decrease the performance after restoration. If I perform a factory reset prior to the nandroid backup, could it minimize the chances of having problems after restoration?
I'm asking this in case there is no manner to create a .ftf file… And, what you guys think about both types of backup, am I getting the wrong impression about nandroid or .ftf files are really better and/or safer??
I installed the app Rom Manager to check its features. It seems it only performs nandroid backups as well directing to the recovery (hope I got it right), but I ended up noticing an issue. The app asks to install or update the CWM Recovery, I tried to update but I get a message saying my device is not compatible.
The current recovery installed in my Neo is "CWM-based Recovery v5.0.2.7-nAa-r2".
Should I update it? And if it's the case, how should I do it??
Is my device really incompatible with Rom Manager, or that message I got was because of the old recovery version installed in my Neo??
(I read about this kind of incompatibility with some devices, just wanna check if it's the case with my phone and if there is a new recovery for Xperia Neo that is compatible with Rom Manager)
Sorry about the long text and so many questions in a single post, but I really want to understand more about this stuff, all the changes in my phone were done separately during more than a year, so I am not much used to these procedures.
I would appreciate any help! Thanks for the attention!!
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Cwm recovery backup restoration shouldn't cause any performance issues... The full backup will have everything in your current rom.. The cwm recovery stays in kernel... I don't understand why you want Rom manager... It's incompatible with our devices...
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Attitude.SSJ said:
Cwm recovery backup restoration shouldn't cause any performance issues... The full backup will have everything in your current rom.. The cwm recovery stays in kernel... I don't understand why you want Rom manager... It's incompatible with our devices...
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Hey Attitude.SSJ, thanks for answering my post!
I tried to explain that I am a beginner, I dont understand many things... I wasnt sure our phones are incompatible with Rom Manager, I wanted to check it, thanks for clarifying that one! Right now I really didnt need it, but I guess it would be very useful for testing others roms after my backup, I imagine Rom Manager makes things faster and easier, right? I wanted to check if there really wasnt a compatible version for Xperia Neo in the present date, since most of the threads I read are from 2012.
About my fear of issues due to restoration from a nandroid backup, I read a few cases where people got many crashes and weird behaviors from the phones, thats why...
So, if I go with the nandroid backup, I will get every single app and configuration saved for the future?? Even the apps I moved to sdcard??
I imagine that I could save the whole sdcard content separately and latter perform a restoration with this nandroid backup and put everything back in the sdcard to reach the exact state in which my smartphone is right now.
Is that the way nandroid backup works??
(I really want to understand it better before decide what to do, hope I am getting the right idea)
Also, if a FTF backup is not possible (I still dont know if its really not possible), is there any other manner (maybe another kind of backup) to make a flashable backup with a clean rom like it would be with the FTF files??
Thanks!
KenxirC said:
Hey Attitude.SSJ, thanks for answering my post!
I tried to explain that I am a beginner, I dont understand many things... I wasnt sure our phones are incompatible with Rom Manager, I wanted to check it, thanks for clarifying that one! Right now I really didnt need it, but I guess it would be very useful for testing others roms after my backup, I imagine Rom Manager makes things faster and easier, right? I wanted to check if there really wasnt a compatible version for Xperia Neo in the present date, since most of the threads I read are from 2012.
About my fear of issues due to restoration from a nandroid backup, I read a few cases where people got many crashes and weird behaviors from the phones, thats why...
So, if I go with the nandroid backup, I will get every single app and configuration saved for the future?? Even the apps I moved to sdcard??
I imagine that I could save the whole sdcard content separately and latter perform a restoration with this nandroid backup and put everything back in the sdcard to reach the exact state in which my smartphone is right now.
Is that the way nandroid backup works??
(I really want to understand it better before decide what to do, hope I am getting the right idea)
Also, if a FTF backup is not possible (I still dont know if its really not possible), is there any other manner (maybe another kind of backup) to make a flashable backup with a clean rom like it would be with the FTF files??
Thanks!
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Just like @Attitude.SSJ said CWM backup or Nandroid backup does not effect performance mate.
U cant make a nandroid backup to FTF, only sin files can be used to make FTF files.
There is a guide to make nandroid backups to flashable zip file in Neo General section. check that out.
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Samak said:
Just like @Attitude.SSJ said CWM backup or Nandroid backup does not effect performance mate.
U cant make a nandroid backup to FTF, only sin files can be used to make FTF files.
There is a guide to make nandroid backups to flashable zip file in Neo General section. check that out.
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Thanks a lot Samak! That zip alternative is the kind of thing I was talking about, good to know this possibility!
Found these two methods:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2266285
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2209590
I will probably try one of them latter, but I'll perform a nandroid backup first to be safe!
I noticed that the final flashable file is referred to as "update.zip". Does it mean I need to flash a certain rom prior to this zip generated through these methods??
I also have a few important questions about nandroid before I make the backup, hope you guys can help me with this too.
I have many apps that were natively movable and some that I forced to the sdcard with link2sd. I have a 16GB sdcard almost full, so I have to empty it prior to the backup.
If I save the complete sdcard content in my pc and perform the nandroid backup after this, will nandroid be able to backup those apps moved to sd??
(I know part of the apps remain in the internal storage, but I'm still wondering what is gonna happen in this situation)
And after restoration, if I copy everything back to the sdcard, will the apps recognize everything??
Any other steps, or just CWM restore option??
Thanks guys!!
KenxirC said:
Thanks a lot Samak! That zip alternative is the kind of thing I was talking about, good to know this possibility!
Found these two methods:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2266285
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2209590
I will probably try one of them latter, but I'll perform a nandroid backup first to be safe!
I noticed that the final flashable file is referred to as "update.zip". Does it mean I need to flash a certain rom prior to this zip generated through these methods??
I also have a few important questions about nandroid before I make the backup, hope you guys can help me with this too.
I have many apps that were natively movable and some that I forced to the sdcard with link2sd. I have a 16GB sdcard almost full, so I have to empty it prior to the backup.
If I save the complete sdcard content in my pc and perform the nandroid backup after this, will nandroid be able to backup those apps moved to sd??
(I know part of the apps remain in the internal storage, but I'm still wondering what is gonna happen in this situation)
And after restoration, if I copy everything back to the sdcard, will the apps recognize everything??
Any other steps, or just CWM restore option??
Thanks guys!!
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U dont need to flash the rom before flashing the nandroid zip. Just do all wipes properly & flash the rom.
I think if u copy all the sd card contents again then those apps linked to sd card will work properly. If u dont copy those contents again then linked apps will fc. I dont use link2sd so am not 100% sure. Correct me if I am wrong.
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Samak said:
U dont need to flash the rom before flashing the nandroid zip. Just do all wipes properly & flash the rom.
I think if u copy all the sd card contents again then those apps linked to sd card will work properly. If u dont copy those contents again then linked apps will fc. I dont use link2sd so am not 100% sure. Correct me if I am wrong.
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Awesome stuff man, thanks again!! :highfive:
Nandroid backup is really great and just saved me! After the backup I was feeling confident to mess with the device, so I made a factory reset to see how the rom would behave after the changes I made, without setup wizard and all the bloatware... At first glance everything seemed ok, but I don't know why the camera wouldn't work! I didn't remove anything related to the camera, I searched which system apps could be removed safely before doing anything. So this rom I am using right now is quite light, with a good amount of free internal storage, but it just can't be reseted because of the camera function and possibly some other bugs. Thankfully the nandroid restoration worked pretty well and now I don't have to go all the way installing and configuring everything!
All the apps seem to be fine after copying back the content of the sdcard, so using link2sd is ok to move apps before a nandroid procedure.
But considering the camera bug, I will not take the time to create a flashable zip of this rom I am using, maybe I can customize another one in the future and try it...
Any guesses of what could have gone wrong so that the camera didn't open after reseting the phone??
The camera app would only show a black screen of which I couldn't get out, the only choice was to turn off the phone.
Another doubt I have about nandroid restoration... I intend to flash the official ICS (MT15I_4.1.B.0.587) prior to the installation of Cyanogenmod and other roms based in newer versions of Android. But if I want to go back to this 2.3.4 nandroid backup while I am running, lets say, Jelly Bean, then what should I do??
Nothing, like it would be with a flashable zip, or should I make a downgrade first or any other procedure??
Thanks!!
KenxirC said:
Awesome stuff man, thanks again!! :highfive:
Nandroid backup is really great and just saved me! After the backup I was feeling confident to mess with the device, so I made a factory reset to see how the rom would behave after the changes I made, without setup wizard and all the bloatware... At first glance everything seemed ok, but I don't know why the camera wouldn't work! I didn't remove anything related to the camera, I searched which system apps could be removed safely before doing anything. So this rom I am using right now is quite light, with a good amount of free internal storage, but it just can't be reseted because of the camera function and possibly some other bugs. Thankfully the nandroid restoration worked pretty well and now I don't have to go all the way installing and configuring everything!
All the apps seem to be fine after copying back the content of the sdcard, so using link2sd is ok to move apps before a nandroid procedure.
But considering the camera bug, I will not take the time to create a flashable zip of this rom I am using, maybe I can customize another one in the future and try it...
Any guesses of what could have gone wrong so that the camera didn't open after reseting the phone??
The camera app would only show a black screen of which I couldn't get out, the only choice was to turn off the phone.
Another doubt I have about nandroid restoration... I intend to flash the official ICS (MT15I_4.1.B.0.587) prior to the installation of Cyanogenmod and other roms based in newer versions of Android. But if I want to go back to this 2.3.4 nandroid backup while I am running, lets say, Jelly Bean, then what should I do??
Nothing, like it would be with a flashable zip, or should I make a downgrade first or any other procedure??
Thanks!!
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If u r moving from ICS or JB to GB, then I would suggest u to flash the GB firmware ftf first, then restore the nandroid backup.
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Samak said:
If u r moving from ICS or JB to GB, then I would suggest u to flash the GB firmware ftf first, then restore the nandroid backup.
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Ok, thanks man!
I'll try different roms now, just have to search a little for some tutorials to remember every step...
Cheers :good:
Hello,
It would be great if someone could help me out.
I have spent the whole day trying to find out if it is possible to create a flashable rom from an already running and setup android device.
I have found many tutorials on how to create roms from scratch, but can't seem to find a way to do it from an already running android device.
I already have an android device setup with all the apps, settings and files I want in the rom. I wondered if there was a way to use my Windows system to create a flashable rom from this device which I can then use to setup/flash new devices.
I hope that makes sense.
Thanks for your time.
Hi there, i am curious as well if this is possible.
I have to set up about 1600 Samsung S5 mini phone's for a customer. Almost al the setting, apps en stuf are identical so i would also like to create a flashable rom / image from one phone so we can install it to the other 1599 phones
Thanx in advance.
steefzz said:
Hi there, i am curious as well if this is possible.
I have to set up about 1600 Samsung S5 mini phone's for a customer. Almost al the setting, apps en stuf are identical so i would also like to create a flashable rom / image from one phone so we can install it to the other 1599 phones
Thanx in advance.
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Hi,
From what I have read online if you are wanting to do this for a phone you can do a nandroid backup. I have just found a number of guides on how to do this with phones. If you search this forum for nandroid backup you will find them. Hope that helps you steefzz.
I am actually trying to clone TV box with all apks installed and configured. I can see how I can package apks into a rom, but they won't have all addons and settings saved. This is why I was hoping for a way to clone the entire device to restore onto future devices.
Ideally i don't even want to have to power up the devices, I would like to plug them into my PC apply the cloned rom and that's it.
If anyone has an idea of how to do that without having to pre-install any recovery or software onto the devices, or even power them up before hand ( they are already rooted) that would be great.
Thanks again.
sym0n said:
Hi,
From what I have read online if you are wanting to do this for a phone you can do a nandroid backup. I have just found a number of guides on how to do this with phones. If you search this forum for nandroid backup you will find them. Hope that helps you steefzz.
I am actually trying to clone TV box with all apks installed and configured. I can see how I can package apks into a rom, but they won't have all addons and settings saved. This is why I was hoping for a way to clone the entire device to restore onto future devices.
Ideally i don't even want to have to power up the devices, I would like to plug them into my PC apply the cloned rom and that's it.
If anyone has an idea of how to do that without having to pre-install any recovery or software onto the devices, or even power them up before hand ( they are already rooted) that would be great.
Thanks again.
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Hi,
Thanks for your reply.
With a nandroid backup it wil indeed kind of work out how i want, however when i want to restore a backup to the phone, the backup has to be in \TWRP\BACKUPS\<PhonIdNr>
The Phone Id number is unique and before i can restore a backup, i first have to make a small backup to create these folders.
Also i am expected to write a manual so that other collegaes can also do this procedure. For me it's no problem (i'm using custom roms for about 5 years now with different brands) however most of my collegeas are not known with these methods to restore a nandroid.
So i was experimenting with the creation of a own made custom rom . For now it partially worked. I managed to make a flashable zipfile. However it only work is i dont install the /data folder. If i only install the /system folder it works fine, only i have to maken al bunch of manual setting. When i also install the /data folder the phone is stuck at boot logo, when i then full wipe i, it will boot again.
So i actually would like to maken a flashable zip or an Odin flashable tar that also contains (some) /data.
Is this even possible?
Greetings all,
The Honor 5x is the first phone i have been able to use custom rom's on.
I wanted to know how to approach updates for these devices.
Basically, i want to know:
Do i still receive basic android security patches (Not necessarily the Huawei ones)?
What do i need to do to keep my device up to date with these patches?
Is there a way that I can update/switch roms without loosing my data or installed apps?
I am not technically un-savvy. This is just my first real time with android that i can play with.
Previous experience has been locked down verizon devices.
Any tips or info is helpful.
~EDIT~
I probably should have been more clear on my original post. Apologies for the confusion:
-- I have already unlocked the device through the Huawei official method using their site
-- I have TWRP, and understand how to backup my current ROM, or flash a new one (Currently running the stock de-bloated By clsA)
-- I have NOT tried to flash a different ROM over an existing one (if this is a thing?), instead they have all been full wipe-and-install.
-- Cyanogenmod wasn't my thing. EMUI with Nova launcher looks better to me, and lag hasn't been an issue since i turned off most of the animations.
-- I do have a working SD card, and have the Tasker app backup my latest TWRP zip from my SD card to my home-server when i get to my home wifi. (Double backup locations covered.)
Currently, what i'm trying to learn is if there is a way to flash a new ROM, but keep my apps installed so that i don't have to re-install them every time. (I'm thinking similar to a Linux /Home directory?)
As a day job I am a Cisco CCNA, but that doesn't really qualify me to be knowledgeable in android. However, I'm pretty used to technical stuff, and don't mind using the ADB interface (still learning), as it's reasonably similar to what i already know.
You need a PC to keep your backups- custom ROM backups can be restored using TWRP, stock rom backups need stock recovery.
Only stock ROM gets security updates via OTA that require an unmodified stock rom. Meaning no root and no TWRP.
There's a lot of information on this site- read up some and we will be here for help.
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Arobase40 said:
If this is your first Android smartphone why do you need to play with custom ROM ???
If you do care about official updates just stay on stock, take time to be accustomed with it and with all potential apps as there are so many things to discover and it may take some months to deal with.
Maybe later, much later if you're really unsatisfied with it you could then probably change for another ROM, but for now just use it as it...
You can also play with all the Play Store apps which won't modify you device internally but which could bring nice effects such as a new launcher, themes, wallpaper, keyboards, etc...
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It is not his first Android device. Verizon seems to lock their device so costumers won't be able to flash ROMs, sadly.
Dead_Dude said:
You need a PC to keep your backups- custom ROM backups can be restored using TWRP, stock rom backups need stock recovery.
Only stock ROM gets security updates via OTA that require an unmodified stock rom. Meaning no root and no TWRP.
There's a lot of information on this site- read up some and we will be here for help.
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Thanks for clearing up the OTA update.
I already keep backups on my PC, but after starting to use TWRP to mess about i don't want to go back to stock.
Arobase40 said:
If this is your first Android smartphone why do you need to play with custom ROM ???
If you do care about official updates just stay on stock, take time to be accustomed with it and with all potential apps as there are so many things to discover and it may take some months to deal with.
Maybe later, much later if you're really unsatisfied with it you could then probably change for another ROM, but for now just use it as it...
You can also play with all the Play Store apps which won't modify you device internally but which could bring nice effects such as a new launcher, themes, wallpaper, keyboards, etc...
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Not my first android phone, but the first one that was unlockable and can use custom roms.
As i am not familiar with custom roms as much as i am with stock android, i am not sure how this changes how i should handle my device security.
Should i be substituting these OTA updates i am used to with manual ones? does missing them put me at risk?
bylithium said:
It is not his first Android device. Verizon seems to lock their device so costumers won't be able to flash ROMs, sadly.
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They do. Bootloader lock, and not able to install custom recovery. Also, sideloading is super complicated. Bricking the phone is super easy too, so you can't even poke around much...
Thanks for the great post!
I realize that I should have probably put more info in my initial post, so i've made some additions.
I'm still learning about the ADB interface, and how the whole flashing process works. (I can do it, but don't totally understand what's going on when I do)
Here's what I added, just for reference sake.
I probably should have been more clear on my original post. Apologies for the confusion:
-- I have already unlocked the device through the Huawei official method using their site
-- I have TWRP, and understand how to backup my current ROM, or flash a new one (Currently running the stock de-bloated By clsA)
-- I have NOT tried to flash a different ROM over an existing one (if this is a thing?), instead they have all been full wipe-and-install.
-- Cyanogenmod wasn't my thing. EMUI with Nova launcher looks better to me, and lag hasn't been an issue since i turned off most of the animations.
-- I do have a working SD card, and have the Tasker app backup my latest TWRP zip from my SD card to my home-server when i get to my home wifi. (Double backup locations covered.)
Currently, what i'm trying to learn is if there is a way to flash a new ROM, but keep my apps installed so that i don't have to re-install them every time. (I'm thinking similar to a Linux /Home directory?)
As a day job I am a Cisco CCNA, but that doesn't really qualify me to be knowledgeable in android. However, I'm pretty used to technical stuff, and don't mind using the ADB interface (still learning), as it's reasonably similar to what i already know.
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itsbentheboy said:
Thanks for the great post!
I realize that I should have probably put more info in my initial post, so i've made some additions.
I'm still learning about the ADB interface, and how the whole flashing process works. (I can do it, but don't totally understand what's going on when I do)
Here's what I added, just for reference sake.
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Here's the bottom line
if your phone is on say lollipop 5.1.1 and you want to flash a rom 5.1.1 it's not necessary to wipe / factory reset your phone
if your phone is android 6 and you wish to return to lollipop 5.1.1 you need to totally wipe the phone (clean start) then return to 5.1.1
same if your on 5.1.1 and moving up to android 6 a clean start is the best.
If your flashing from android 6 (cm13) to another android 6 (Bliss rom) no wipe is needed (it's called Dirty flash)
If you want to play with custom ROMs
1. Stick to apps that have cloud saves.
Flashing ROMs in the safest way requires wiping the entire device. Dirty flashing can cause completely unpredictable results.
2. Get yourself a huge SD card. Maybe a spare to hold a backup stock image in the DLOAD folder. You won't always have a PC available to bring your phone back from a bad ROM.
3. Stick to the cloud as much as possible. But for the app or two you can't use the cloud with, get a good backup app. This device has a decent enough app on stock, but the app you use must run on all the ROMs you use Also remember, a lot of backups won't restore on m from l or vice versa.
4. Stick to the cloud. I've lost GTA game saves and worse by relying on an app to backup stuff properly. Manually copying files is much more reliable but slow.
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