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Dear Xda Experts!
My name is Guy, I own an Xda Atom and I critically need your help...
About a month ago my life became miserable as the wifi module of the poor device has stopped functioning completely: It doesn't start when I click Menu->Turn on Wifi, doesn't respond to wireless manager clicks, fails the self diagnostics test etc.
After looking all over the relevant internet forums, I've found This post, suggesting I put the atom in the fridge for a few minutes. I've done that - and suprisingly - the wifi began functioning for a few minutes time. After that, it returned to its normal state of misfunctioning.
I understand that the problem is being caused by some sort of a heating problem within the device.
Is there a solution to this problem?
Rom experts (especially Jiggs) : is there a registry edit that might help, maybe to take some pressure of the processor, or to prevent the disappearance of the wifi as the device heats?
I bought the Atom especially because the wifi ability, as it is highly important to me, and as for now I'm seriously disappointed. The O2's support's laconic response was "Try the official ROM" (My warranty period is over).
Needless to say, I have already tried Hard resets, Rom upgrades of all kinds, flashing and reflashing, taking out the battery for a few days and nothing worked.
Please try to assist,
Your help will be much appreciated.
Thank you all,
Guy Sando.
Same with me.
Hi Guy,
I have the same problem with my Atom.
I tried to reinstall ROMs/Hard Reset and nothing helped.
One day in the morning after charging it all over the night, the WIFI suddenly started to work, but only for few hours.
Hope someone would have an idea.
Yaniv.
Do not used wireless manager or the wrlsmgr. try using Wifi Utilty by ALE**** i forget
Bye try to flash with the AKU 3.3.3 or AKU3.3F
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=329181
jeffkewin said:
Do not used wireless manager or the wrlsmgr. try using Wifi Utilty by ALE**** i forget
Bye try to flash with the AKU 3.3.3 or AKU3.3F
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=329181
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Dear Jeffkewin, thanx for the response.
Do you have a link or maybe a bit more specific name of the software that you recommended? (Btw, Software replacement seems a bit like a long shot, because of the fact that the "fridge-therapy" works for the wifi...)
As for the AKU's - I've tried them both, they're really nice, but none of them has fixed my wifi issue...
Maybe The upcoming WM6 Rom will. I keep my fingers crossed...
Thanks again,
Guy.
Can u goto the Settings, Connections, use the Wi-fi Utility.
Ignore the Turn on and off button. Turn on is turn off, turn on is turn on.. that the only text bugs, but the software is working fine.
Try SPB phone suite wireless icon
it happened to me one time while trying to reflashed ROM. When im going to Wireless Manager, I cant open my wifi. But if im trying to open it in SPB Phone suite , its working...maybe try this software. download it and i will give to you the serial for registration. But first try if it is work then thats the time i will give to you...
jeffkewin said:
Can u goto the Settings, Connections, use the Wi-fi Utility.
Ignore the Turn on and off button. Turn on is turn off, turn on is turn on.. that the only text bugs, but the software is working fine.
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generalriden said:
it happened to me one time while trying to reflashed ROM. When im going to Wireless Manager, I cant open my wifi. But if im trying to open it in SPB Phone suite , its working...maybe try this software. download it and i will give to you the serial for registration. But first try if it is work then thats the time i will give to you...
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Thank you Jeffkewin and Generalriden,
Unfortunately, The solutions you proposed are not working. I have tried Phonesuite, Hitch-hiker and many more - none have worked.
I have also tried ignoring the text in the "Wifi utilities" application (In many different Rom versions) - still no good...
Has someone encountered the same problem and got it solved? Is there something about the Rom version that can fix this?
Thanks again,
Guy.
If you're using the official ROM and it's not working, then this is more hardware related. 'Fridge Theraphy' is not normal for your device. You have no choice but to go to service center, have it estimated for cost. You can buy now a brand new Atom at $250 or less.
Alternate solution would be a $50-$100 SDIO wifi card, but I think none would fit the miniSD slot.
There are miniSDIO wifis. They're pretty much the only miniSDIO devices. However, you're still better off getting a new device.
Sounds like your wifi module's overheating. This is a hardware problem (just like cracking speakers) and there's no way to fix it permanently short of a physical repair.
Good News
I had the same problem.
I tried almost every single possible solution which was discussed on this forum, including the Fridge Therapy. Fridge therapy really worked for a couple of minutes.
Finally, I took it to the service center and they said, the problem is with the board and the cost of repair is $400/-.
I was put off and challenged to see, something which works after the fridge therapy will stop working at room temperature.
Finally, I realized, the last thing beyond the ROM which I changed was the MS Active Sync. I had using Active Sync Ver 4.5. It seems to have some conflict. I reverted back to Active Sync Ver. 4.1 and reflased the original rom.
It worked and Active Sync Ver. 4.1 is working perfectly fine for my device. After the WiFi worked, I reflashed it to Jiggs latest WM6 ROM and its working well.
Might sound wiered, but the fact, I could resolve this issue by reverting back to Active Sync. 4.1.
Hope this helps to all dissappointed users of Atom.
Regards,
Anand
Anand Bhargava said:
I had the same problem.
I tried almost every single possible solution which was discussed on this forum, including the Fridge Therapy. Fridge therapy really worked for a couple of minutes.
Finally, I took it to the service center and they said, the problem is with the board and the cost of repair is $400/-.
I was put off and challenged to see, something which works after the fridge therapy will stop working at room temperature.
Finally, I realized, the last thing beyond the ROM which I changed was the MS Active Sync. I had using Active Sync Ver 4.5. It seems to have some conflict. I reverted back to Active Sync Ver. 4.1 and reflased the original rom.
It worked and Active Sync Ver. 4.1 is working perfectly fine for my device. After the WiFi worked, I reflashed it to Jiggs latest WM6 ROM and its working well.
Might sound wiered, but the fact, I could resolve this issue by reverting back to Active Sync. 4.1.
Hope this helps to all dissappointed users of Atom.
Regards,
Anand
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Dear Anand,
Thank you very much for your help.
I'm anxious to see if that's gonna work for me as well.
I'll try going back to AS 4.1 right now and will let you know.
Keep your fingers crossed for me!
Many thanks again!
Guy.
I'm happy for you mate, but that just sounds like the biggest load of bollocks I've ever heard it just proves how unpredictible and unreliable our Atoms are, my Wifi has also gone on the blink for one or two weeks at a time and then for no apparent reason it fixes itself. Although I suppose running the Atom Exec rom in the Atom doesnt help nor the fact we run overclock apps to 624MHZ
I have now finished downgrading to AS 4.1 and to the official ROM.
Unfortunately, that did not do the trick. Thinking about it, seems like Homer is right:
The AS doesn't start communicating with the device until its connected to the desktop, after the HR and the SR that follow the ROM upgrade. therefore, there's no obvious reason why it should affect the wifi module, which seems to be off even before that connection. In addition - Anand, how did you get the AS 4.1 to work with the WM6 ROM? Isn't AS 4.5 the only version that works with WM6?
As been said, our devices are totally unpredictable, which is really disappointing. I'm happy for you, for getting everything running, and I hope that my device will do that as well soon.
I'll be more than glad if someone here will be able to assist in that matter.
Thank you all,
Guy.
guysando said:
I have now finished downgrading to AS 4.1 and to the official ROM.
Unfortunately, that did not do the trick. Thinking about it, seems like Homer is right:
The AS doesn't start communicating with the device until its connected to the desktop, after the HR and the SR that follow the ROM upgrade. therefore, there's no obvious reason why it should affect the wifi module, which seems to be off even before that connection. In addition - Anand, how did you get the AS 4.1 to work with the WM6 ROM? Isn't AS 4.5 the only version that works with WM6?
As been said, our devices are totally unpredictable, which is really disappointing. I'm happy for you, for getting everything running, and I hope that my device will do that as well soon.
I'll be more than glad if someone here will be able to assist in that matter.
Thank you all,
Guy.
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i think guys,IMHO, if the problem doesnt have a solution, change mobile and get the better one. So far, my atom pure is working great so i can wait to buy an iphone ;-)
guysando said:
I have now finished downgrading to AS 4.1 and to the official ROM.
Unfortunately, that did not do the trick. Thinking about it, seems like Homer is right:
The AS doesn't start communicating with the device until its connected to the desktop, after the HR and the SR that follow the ROM upgrade. therefore, there's no obvious reason why it should affect the wifi module, which seems to be off even before that connection. In addition - Anand, how did you get the AS 4.1 to work with the WM6 ROM? Isn't AS 4.5 the only version that works with WM6?
As been said, our devices are totally unpredictable, which is really disappointing. I'm happy for you, for getting everything running, and I hope that my device will do that as well soon.
I'll be more than glad if someone here will be able to assist in that matter.
Thank you all,
Guy.
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I have not yet syncronized my device with WM6 and AS 4.1. I just used it to reflash the Atom.
Also, I have heard, of AS to have an impact on WiFi Connectivity in the past.
Mine is still working fine. Infact, WiFi with WM6 is working much better than WM5.
Also, another thing which my help to have a logical conclusion is the fact, that when I used to sync with my laptop's WiFi on, my PDA's WiFi used to dissappear and when the Laptop's WiFi was off, it used to work well.
To be honest, I tried many things, starting flashing the first Atom update to the cooked roms, with AS downgrade. I wanted to share my experience, was quite excited that it may help many other like me.
Feel sorry for you :-(
Regards,
Anand
WIFI mulfunction
It sounds completly reasonable - a sofware conflict.
I have the same the problem.
However, one morning after recharging my ATOM for a complete night, the WIFI module suddenly worked in the morning till I......used the active sync 4.5 to synchronize it.
I will try to reinstall the 4.1 version and see how it works for me.
Yaniv
Since a week ago I'm having a strange problem. Bottom part of my screen doesn't respond well to touch input. I think its kind of out of calibration or is it broken? Does anyone else have this problem?
I've installed several ROMs but all of them have the same problem. Is my Hero dying?
This is a well documented problem. Try searching the forum for the related posts.
Thanks. Unfortunately I couldnt find exact answer to my question.
Would you please be kind enough to give me a link to the solution?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=595485
OK. Thanks man. I guess I have problem. Here there is no official HTC center so I guess I have to deal with it. For thos in my condition, The original HTC keyboard works the best for me and with it I have little to no problem unlike default Android keyboard.
I had the same problem before.
But without a service center, you are out of luck.
Maybe try those DIY guides they have on fixing this problem.
my gtablet's battery has stopped working i can't run it now without the DC charger the moment i unplug the charger the device stops in tried another battery (yea i opened my device) and it worked fine
dose any body know where can get a new one?
i have searched every where
thank you
There is some info here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1043369&highlight=battery+replacement
No direct links though.
Best of luck,
thanks
aasoror said:
There is some info here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1043369&highlight=battery+replacement
No direct links though.
Best of luck,
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thank you i will have a look there
Any Luck?
Were you able to solve the problem?
Maybe try here
Try giving these guys a call.
www.batteryspace.com
hello to comunity,
i have the samsung galaxy s 2 gt-u9100 mobile phone and everything was perfect untill i opened the phone, the phone has problem at the back housing so i ordered a new one and replaced it, i made everything with caution and slowly. while i changed the back housing i opened the phone and everything was good untill i saw that there was no signal. i did it 2g and i see that there is onlu on raw ar the signal and sometimes none.
i opened the phone again and checked everything but saw nothing wrong. as i searched i saw that the GSM is this part and the cable that connects the antenna is this one . both of them are perfect.
i lost all my day trying with that , at start i had SlimRom 2 then i put the stock one via Odin but it didnt boot, stocked in the boot image (didnt wanted to search why ) so i flashed kernel again and then NeatRom, still no signal and then i went back to SlimRom. but the problem as i saw is not from the rom .
if anyone knows about that thing and tell me what to do i would be gladfull .
That bit is the antenna c/w speaker.There is a thread related to this about usb replacement.People mention about similar problems when they remove the antenna cable.
Heres a pic of spares I have,and look at the gold contacts on the antenna,as they need to be in good contact with the ones on the usb board.Maybe its that,or maybe new antenna is faulty.Try your old one in to eliminate that though.It could even be the antenna cable.
The thread is by someone whos name is Dugud,or similar
Edit:was close,this is it
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=47066876
theunderling said:
That bit is the antenna c/w speaker.There is a thread related to this about usb replacement.People mention about similar problems when they remove the antenna cable.
Heres a pic of spares I have,and look at the gold contacts on the antenna,as they need to be in good contact with the ones on the usb board.Maybe its that,or maybe new antenna is faulty.Try your old one in to eliminate that though.It could even be the antenna cable.
The thread is by someone whos name is Dugud,or similar
Edit:was close,this is it
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=47066876
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thanks a lot for your reply my friend, my problem is not with the usb think i thing, it must be with the cable or i dunno. i had verry good signal and everything was working, now just the signal got verry low.
exept from buying repair part you say there is no fix right?
leonleonleon said:
thanks a lot for your reply my friend, my problem is not with the usb think i thing, it must be with the cable or i dunno. i had verry good signal and everything was working, now just the signal got verry low.
exept from buying repair part you say there is no fix right?
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maybe take it to a shop with someone who knows what they are doing. I just had to do this with mine, I considered trying to get parts cheap and diy then I considered how much time and stress it could cause me = not worth it. It cost me £25 to have usb replaced, second thing I checked was the signal as I see many having problems with this - outcome is my phone is working sweet again and it only took a couple of hours of my time :cyclops:
Best of luck
Did you read that thread?.I seen a post on here once where someone said they removed that white antenna cable,then refitted it,and lost signal.Then they bought a new cable,which solved the problem.
Also, you dont know the condition of the part you changed,and theoretically you are meant to use anti static wristband and mat when your touching sensitive electronic components......lol
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theunderling said:
Did you read that thread?.I seen a post on here once where someone said they removed that white antenna cable,then refitted it,and lost signal.Then they bought a new cable,which solved the problem.
Also, you dont know the condition of the part you changed,and theoretically you are meant to use anti static wristband and mat when your touching sensitive electronic components......lol
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I finaly solved after 10 hours of trying. a did the patern that this guy did and it worked perfectly, but i still cant underestand what made this problem.
http://youtu.be/2Y6k5t1f7Qk
A weird thing happened to me:
After installing CM11,no one can here me over the internal mic,and I can only be heard when I use the speaker.
Sometimes,I can be heard very low,sometimes regularly,and sometimes not at all.
All other mics and speakers work just fine,as I can hear everything,from music to videos,but face the exact same problem when recording audio(when on heavy metal vocal lessons ),and when trying to send a voice message over What's App.
Have tried flashing older Jelly Bean roms,using Odin,and have temporarily been able to solve the problem,only finding out the problem persists after a random number of days,differs from rom to rom.
Have been to 3 labs here in Israel,and every time the claim is that the phone is fine,or that it's not a mic problem,but an audio chip one,which is pretty expensive to solve.(not that I mind spending on it,as buying a new decent phone here is double to three times the repair)
The thing is,every time I flash a new rom,a new modem,add a DSP manager,the phone is just fine,at least for a couple of hours,to a few days.
Been thinking it's a software,rather than a hardware issue,so am here to consult with you.
Should I:
1.Flash a stock rom again,but try one that's been altered for the Israeli user?
2.Flash CM12 Beta,in hopes a lollipop would keep fix it....
BTW:
Is flashing with Odin like wiping the system and data partitions?
I've been using numerous roms over the years,from ICS to Kitkat.
Never ever have I faced such a weird problem......
Thanks in advance and best regards,
Yohai.
I'm also having the same issue....
Some others also have the same issue...See the link below:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s2/help/confused-t2777776
I did forum search...Many seems to have this issue...And the problem is still un solved
I also checked if its hardware...But the phone repair guy is saying everything is fine with the mic...
Someone needs to seriously check this problem...
Currently on NEAT ROM v6.4 (4.1.2)...Few hours of usage, the mic is still working...
yohaim said:
A weird thing happened to me:
After installing CM11,no one can here me over the internal mic,and I can only be heard when I use the speaker.
Sometimes,I can be heard very low,sometimes regularly,and sometimes not at all.
All other mics and speakers work just fine,as I can hear everything,from music to videos,but face the exact same problem when recording audio(when on heavy metal vocal lessons ),and when trying to send a voice message over What's App.
Have tried flashing older Jelly Bean roms,using Odin,and have temporarily been able to solve the problem,only finding out the problem persists after a random number of days,differs from rom to rom.
Have been to 3 labs here in Israel,and every time the claim is that the phone is fine,or that it's not a mic problem,but an audio chip one,which is pretty expensive to solve.(not that I mind spending on it,as buying a new decent phone here is double to three times the repair)
The thing is,every time I flash a new rom,a new modem,add a DSP manager,the phone is just fine,at least for a couple of hours,to a few days.
Been thinking it's a software,rather than a hardware issue,so am here to consult with you.
Should I:
1.Flash a stock rom again,but try one that's been altered for the Israeli user?
2.Flash CM12 Beta,in hopes a lollipop would keep fix it....
BTW:
Is flashing with Odin like wiping the system and data partitions?
I've been using numerous roms over the years,from ICS to Kitkat.
Never ever have I faced such a weird problem......
Thanks in advance and best regards,
Yohai.
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I don't know a stock rom that has been modified by an israeli user. You should try flashing neatrom lite first by Sale. CM12 beta won't improve anything (although it might). Most problems regarding to phone calls are to do with flashing 4.4.4 roms, most of them are caused by not flashing roms properly. Reverting to older version of android will (most of the time) solve your problem.
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ajayfafu said:
I'm also having the same issue....
Some others also have the same issue...See the link below:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s2/help/confused-t2777776
I did forum search...Many seems to have this issue...And the problem is still un solved
I also checked if its hardware...But the phone repair guy is saying everything is fine with the mic...
Someone needs to seriously check this problem...
Currently on NEAT ROM v6.4 (4.1.2)...Few hours of usage, the mic is still working...
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Did the issue happen with stock samsung rom? If no, you might have to use that.
SOLUTION!!!
Today,I went to a lab,which came out to be not the cheapest,but the most professional:
Seams out,the problem was with the mic itself,and the best solution was to replace the entire charging flat.(the mic is just a part of it,and in order to avoid future problems,it is best advised to replace the flat itself,not just the soldered mic)
After going to eat and returning an hour later-problem solved!
This just shows you,how some "professional" labs are hiring retarded technicians.
All you have to do is listen,and think SIMPLE!!!
Cheers and thanks for answering!!
In hope of contributing something to XDA's community,
Yohai.
yohaim said:
Today,I went to a lab,which came out to be not the cheapest,but the most professional:
Seams out,the problem was with the mic itself,and the best solution was to replace the entire charging flat.(the mic is just a part of it,and in order to avoid future problems,it is best advised to replace the flat itself,not just the soldered mic)
After going to eat and returning an hour later-problem solved!
This just shows you,how some "professional" labs are hiring retarded technicians.
All you have to do is listen,and think SIMPLE!!!
Cheers and thanks for answering!!
In hope of contributing something to XDA's community,
Yohai.
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One query
Charging flat means - the board containing the mic, charging socket etc..?
And what's the price for that?
ajayfafu said:
One query
Charging flat means - the board containing the mic, charging socket etc..?
And what's the price for that?
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Flat=Board,yeah.
Here,we call it a "flat",I guess 'cause it's a flat board.....
The price?150 NIS,others charge about 90-129 NIS.
How much is it in $?
150 NIS= about 42$
I'm beginning a course,next week,which will qualify me as a Mobile Technician.
Sadly,I couldn't replace the flat myself,as I have no knowledge on how to do it,but if I knew,the board itself would have cost me about 30 NIS+VAT.
See the big difference?
Knowledge=Money,my friend.
Peace!
Yohai.