Hi All,
Apologies if this is the wrong section - I wasn't able to find a basic Q&A section.
I am running a stock ROM rooted on my T-Mobile Galaxy S5 and would like to have the latest version of Android + Security Updates (it keeps nagging me about updating security) but am unable to update either of these with the usual process since the phone is rooted. Is there a way to do this without flashing a new ROM? I'd rather not lose all my installed applications and whatnot with a fresh flash.
Also, using the stock ROM is there any way to enable unlimited wireless tethering (I have an unlimited data plan)? Foxfi works great for unlimited USB tethering, but I am unable to use the WiFi tethering function.
Thanks!
Toolage
I believe if you update via Odin, your data will stay intact. Apps requiring root won't function until you install recovery and flash SU.
If your stock/rooted, do a complete backup prior to the update and you can then just restore the data partition.
I also have a full backup of apps and data using titanium backup.
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Hi all
I have had my Galaxy S II for about a year now, and i am thinking about rooting it and installing Cyanogenmod on it, but i need some info about the proccess: First of all: What happens when you root your phone? Is you data/apps deleted or is it safe?
Second: What about when i flash Cyanogenmod? Is my data/apps safe there or do i need to redownload the apps and backup my stuff?
Third: If i root my phone and do not flash a new ROM, will it be just as hard for me to update the firmware as on a jailbroken iOS device?
And lastly: I have heard about Titanium Backup, what does it backup? The OS, the apps and/or the data? These are the questions i need answered before starting the rooting proccess
Thanks in advance
/gammarik
gammarik said:
Hi all
I have had my Galaxy S II for about a year now, and i am thinking about rooting it and installing Cyanogenmod on it, but i need some info about the proccess: First of all: What happens when you root your phone? Is you data/apps deleted or is it safe?
Second: What about when i flash Cyanogenmod? Is my data/apps safe there or do i need to redownload the apps and backup my stuff?
Third: If i root my phone and do not flash a new ROM, will it be just as hard for me to update the firmware as on a jailbroken iOS device?
And lastly: I have heard about Titanium Backup, what does it backup? The OS, the apps and/or the data? These are the questions i need answered before starting the rooting proccess
Thanks in advance
/gammarik
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The process is a little different depending on the device but basicly a super user binary and SU app are installed on your device, this will not (in most cases) effect your data or apps.
When you flash a new ROM like cyanogenmod you will loss your data and apps yes so you will need to redownload/reinstall them backing up using a app like titanium backup is recommended.
In most cases if you root your phone it will not be any harder to update the firmware however after the update you will loss root, and often the hacks used to install SU and a custom recovery get fixed in newer updates, so its normally recommend not to update through the official process but to flash a modified version of the update normally found in the XDA forum for the device, these modified versions will have super user etc preinstalled so they cant be lost during the update.
Titanium Backup backs up your apps and there data (so when you reinstalled them with Titanium Backup it will be just how you left it)
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The process is a little different depending on the device but basicly a super user binary and SU app are installed on your device, this will not (in most cases) effect your data or apps.
When you flash a new ROM like cyanogenmod you will loss your data and apps yes so you will need to redownload/reinstall them backing up using a app like titanium backup is recommended.
In most cases if you root your phone it will not be any harder to update the firmware however after the update you will loss root, and often the hacks used to install SU and a custom recovery get fixed in newer updates, so its normally recommend not to update through the official process but to flash a modified version of the update normally found in the XDA forum for the device, these modified versions will have super user etc preinstalled so they cant be lost during the update.
Titanium Backup backs up your apps and there data (so when you reinstalled them with Titanium Backup it will be just how you left it)
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Okay, Thanks for the info! I have one more question: What happens when i update my ROM with eg. ROM Manager? Will i need to restore from Titanium Backup there too?
gammarik said:
Okay, Thanks for the info! I have one more question: What happens when i update my ROM with eg. ROM Manager? Will i need to restore from Titanium Backup there too?
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if your upgrading the same ROM to a newer version for example if you where on CM9 version 1.0 and updated to 1.1 you will likely not have to no, however the developer will post if the update requires a wipe, as some large updates do need a clean install.
If your going from one ROM to another than you will need to wipe yes
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if your upgrading the same ROM to a newer version for example if you where on CM9 version 1.0 and updated to 1.1 you will likely not have to no, however the developer will post if the update requires a wipe, as some large updates do need a clean install.
If your going from one ROM to another than you will need to wipe yes
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Okay Great! Thank you for helping me out I'll think this through and see if i'll root it Thanks again!
Hello, I have been looking over the forums for a while but decided to finally create an account.
I want to update my phone to ICS (yeah I'm pretty slow) I am going to use flashtool to update to the latest .50 I think it is.
Anyway I tried to google it, but basically I want to back up the actually data of apps, I know there are apps for backing up your apps, but I want to keep the actual data like the levels I've completed on 100 floors etc.
I think you can uncheck 'wipe'? on flashtool that does this but I want to do a complete clean reinstall.
So my question is, is there an app that does this without root/bootloader unlocking etc. ?
thank you
Xperia Z said:
Hello, I have been looking over the forums for a while but decided to finally create an account.
I want to update my phone to ICS (yeah I'm pretty slow) I am going to use flashtool to update to the latest .50 I think it is.
Anyway I tried to google it, but basically I want to back up the actually data of apps, I know there are apps for backing up your apps, but I want to keep the actual data like the levels I've completed on 100 floors etc.
I think you can uncheck 'wipe'? on flashtool that does this but I want to do a complete clean reinstall.
So my question is, is there an app that does this without root/bootloader unlocking etc. ?
thank you
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No, Basically you need root to do such backup (no need to unlock)
Use titanium backup to save apk and data and when you restore the app any save will remain intact
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Why not just update to ics through the phone or pc companion or seus? I did and didn't lose any app data
And titanium backup requires root anyway so if you don't want to root the phone that app will be useless to you.
because, laughably the official update still hasn't come! WHAT A fIN joke!
I was going to wait, but have given up waiting.
So other then titanium is there no way to do this without root?
Download ICS for your phone from this forum and flash it with flashtool. BEFORE pressing OK uncheck Wipe Data and Wipe Cache.
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I have a new 32gb s4 on order right now. I have a few questions.
1. How can I tell if I my new phone has the VRUAME7 update? If it's not updated I was thinking about rooting, installing voodoo ota and then updating since on prior posts that seems to work.
2. If I'm not rooted what's the best way to tether the s4?
3. I am mostly rooting for a few apps I like to use and to to do anything with ROMs. One thing I was hopping to was transfer my app data and phone/text logs via titanium backup. If I'm not rooted is there a good way to do this?
Thanks.
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I have a new 32gb s4 on order right now. I have a few questions.
1. How can I tell if I my new phone has the VRUAME7 update? If it's not updated I was thinking about rooting, installing voodoo ota and then updating since on prior posts that seems to work.
2. If I'm not rooted what's the best way to tether the s4?
3. I am mostly rooting for a few apps I like to use and to to do anything with ROMs. One thing I was hopping to was transfer my app data and phone/text logs via titanium backup. If I'm not rooted is there a good way to do this?
Thanks.
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1) Go to About Phone and look I am hesitant to use voodoo. I have seem 1 post where it didn't work and 1 where it did. That's not good enough for me.
update: One thing I have read about using voodoo and then upgrading is that while you might be able to restore root you will lose recovery which means no chance of using any custom ROM's until a Recovery/Root method is developed.
2) Question >> are you on an Unlimited plan? If not the WiFi tethering is included.
3) Not sure. I know that there are other backup programs but I am not sure if they cover everything your looking for. Some do just the phone/text items.
Good luck.
Thanks for the help. Is there a version number I should look for in the about phone? I have unlimited data so I cannot tether w/o root or a 3rd party program.
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1) Go to About Phone and look I am hesitant to use voodoo. I have seem 1 post where it didn't work and 1 where it did. That's not good enough for me.
update: One thing I have read about using voodoo and then upgrading is that while you might be able to restore root you will lose recovery which means no chance of using any custom ROM's until a Recovery/Root method is developed.
2) Question >> are you on an Unlimited plan? If not the WiFi tethering is included.
3) Not sure. I know that there are other backup programs but I am not sure if they cover everything your looking for. Some do just the phone/text items.
Good luck.
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UNCMo96 said:
Thanks for the help. Is there a version number I should look for in the about phone? I have unlimited data so I cannot tether w/o root or a 3rd party program.
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Under Build Number look for JDQ39.I545VRUAME7
I have heard that FoxFi works but I don't know if it works on this release. Should.
Your welcome
UNCMo96 said:
Thanks for the help. Is there a version number I should look for in the about phone? I have unlimited data so I cannot tether w/o root or a 3rd party program.
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I am unlimited data. I use Portable Wifi. I am rooted with Motochopper. I did not accept the ota upgrade (well, I accepted it then froze the updater w Ttbu).
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I've backed up all my contacts, SMS, etc, everything except apps and app data.
I'm gonna upgrade to JB but first I need to root to backup my app data.
If I follow method 3 on this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1285894
Will it delete all my app data?
If it will, should I just use Samsung Kies to upgrade the firmware to JB?
Thanks
Rooting will not change or delete any apps or data. Rooting simply gives you access to the root of your phone, allowing more control over your phone. personally, I recommend framaroot, a one-click app to root the i777 (and many other phones).
Once you're rooted, I would recommend getting titanium backup, which would allow you to:
backup all of your apps and their data.
backup sms & mms & wifi data & ...
get rid of system apps that you don't want or need.
...and a host of other awesome items.
I don't know whether how updating to JB through kies will affect your app or system data, but I'm fairly certain that it won't keep much of it.
Yes, I know rooting my device will not delete apps or apps data, but that't not exactly what I thought I was asking.
I linked to a specific method(method 3) in a thread(http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1285894) which says that I would need to flash binaries to version UCKH7 in order to root because UKK6 cannot be rooted by SuperOneClick. So basically by asking about rooting my UKK6, I thought I implied that I would be flashing binaries.
So really what I'm asking is if flashing binaries will delete my apps/app data.
But, I noticed you suggested I use framaroot, that looks like a new development but I have version UKK6 where there seems to be problems, will it work with my UKK6?
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Yes, I know rooting my device will not delete apps or apps data, but that't not exactly what I thought I was asking.
I linked to a specific method(method 3) in a thread(http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1285894) which says that I would need to flash binaries to version UCKH7 in order to root because UKK6 cannot be rooted by SuperOneClick. So basically by asking about rooting my UKK6, I thought I implied that I would be flashing binaries.
So really what I'm asking is if flashing binaries will delete my apps/app data.
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a dirty flash MIGHT retain your apps and data and still boot, but IMO dirty flashing isn't worth the trouble down the road.
When flashing firmware, it is good practice to start from a clean slate (wipe data/factory reset), which means intentionally clearing the data that it seems you're trying to preserve. I have recently learned that some custom roms even contain their own scripts to conduct additional housecleaning to ensure a bug-free install. To avoid the permanent loss of your data, I suggest using titanium backup to save all user apps and their data, wifi data, sms & mms, (and more) and then safely restore them onto the new rom.
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But, I noticed you suggested I use framaroot, that looks like a new development but I have version UKK6 where there seems to be problems, will it work with my UKK6?
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I trust the framaroot compatibility list, which includes the sgh-i777. I have not used framaroot with uckk6 to verify whether it works or not.
@ProbableDesigner,
The rule of thumb is always perform a wipe data/factory reset when changing base. So, flashing UCKH7 over UCKK6 would require a wipe.
You're correct, framaroot was not around when that guide was written. I'm pretty sure I remember someone saying it worked for them on UCKK6. But if it doesn't work, it will not do any damage, so I would suggest try it first and see.
Oh I see, Ok, thank you cyril279 and creepyncrawly. I did not know that you should wipe before flashing.
Also, wow, I did not expect a response from you creepyncrawly I thought you would have disappeared from the forums since you posted the guide so long ago, but it's good you responded since you created the guide, it helps put my mind at ease.
I'll try framaroot and see if it works, thanks again.
So yesterday I updated to 4.3 and now when using Titanium backup it restores the app but when launching the app It force closes and in the notification bar it says "Security Notice An attempt to access a secure area on your phone without autorization has been blocked. Make sure your phone is protected by updating the security policy to the latest version from samsung." Then has a button for Update policy or cancel and updating the policy doesnt fix it.
So now that you have the story let me tell you exactly what I did to update it.
I followed this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2504408
Then when I went to do the OTA it failed and I was thinking it was because of safestrap and that i still had a rom installed on rom slot 1. So I started over and once I installed VRUDMI1 I did a factory wipe of data just so its fresh(i think thats where i went wrong but i dont know). SO then i continued with the instructions in the link above and got 4.3 installed.
Any Idea why i cant restore? Im thinking it has to do with the app permissions because when I install from store and accept the permissions the app works but i cant restore my data.
Anyone?
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Yes, anybody? I've had this same issue and worked around it, I just can't keep entering the data in all my apps.
It started when I went from stock on my S4 to Hyperdrive RLS12. The first time I witnessed this, it was annoying, but I figured it was simply because of differences in the stock vs custom (like deodexed vs odexed) making the backups in-compatible. BTW, I am using stock slot. Don't like the whole fake slot thing taking up space, especially when I'm no newbie with installing ROMs.
Well, I went from RLS12->13, same issue. Just did RLS13->14, same issue.
So here's what I just did (and always do). I've installed different ROMs on different phones countless times over the past few years, TB has never failed me in this process until now:
- Did nandroid backup of current ROM
- Took screenshots of important settings, etc.
- Did a TB of my USER apps I want to restore, sync'd to DropBox
- Recovery, full whipe (data/cache/dalvik/etc)
- Install new ROM version
- After first start, FIRST thing I do is re-install TB and license, so I can open it and let it detect my changed device id and restore it.
- After reboot, restore things, including app+data of certain apps from TB
But every time with my S4, I get the same things as ponzi314, if I install App only, it works. If I restore app+data or just data (after installing from market) the app will just go to a blank screen for a few seconds then crash. Even if I clear data at this point, the app won't work. I have to actually un-install/re-install the app.
What gives? It's frustrating given the number of times I've used this process with TB successfully. I'm going back to my nandroid backup for now until I can solve this. Thanks.
Download TB Restore Fixer from the Play Store. It worked for me.
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ponzi314 said:
So yesterday I updated to 4.3 and now when using Titanium backup it restores the app but when launching the app It force closes and in the notification bar it says "Security Notice An attempt to access a secure area on your phone without autorization has been blocked. Make sure your phone is protected by updating the security policy to the latest version from samsung." Then has a button for Update policy or cancel and updating the policy doesnt fix it.
So now that you have the story let me tell you exactly what I did to update it.
I followed this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2504408
Then when I went to do the OTA it failed and I was thinking it was because of safestrap and that i still had a rom installed on rom slot 1. So I started over and once I installed VRUDMI1 I did a factory wipe of data just so its fresh(i think thats where i went wrong but i dont know). SO then i continued with the instructions in the link above and got 4.3 installed.
Any Idea why i cant restore? Im thinking it has to do with the app permissions because when I install from store and accept the permissions the app works but i cant restore my data.
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Make sure "unknown app" is checked in settings and download root checker to verify if your phone is rooted.
It works!
riker147 said:
Download TB Restore Fixer from the Play Store. It worked for me.
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Thanks, that's was exactly what I needed!