Moto Z Griffin different versions (and compatibility) - Moto Z Questions & Answers
Up to date I've counted three (or four?) different version of Moto Z Griffin (excluding Force/Sheridan and Play which are different phones...)
This is what I've understood (please note: I could be wrong! This thread is here to get more & correct informations...)
Variants found:
XT1650-01 this should be Verizon "Droid" customized version. It has (b)locked bootloader, customized software and very limited LTE support for non-Verizon carriers even if it is NOT SIM locked. I don't know if other North American versions will be marked this way...
XT1650-03 this is the UK version (EDIT: all international unlocked versions seem to be coded this way...). This has an unlockable bootloader by Motorola web site (voiding warranty... ) best LTE support (B20 too...) and it is NOT SIM locked (EDIT: exist even SIM locked on some markets). I don't know if models that will come out in other EU countries will have same code...
XT1650-05 this is the Chinese (far east?) version. This exists for sure in double-sim version (single SIM too?), it has unlockable bootloader (like -03), medium LTE support (B20 seems not to be supported...) and it is NOT SIM locked too.
Even if quite different from -03, TWRP and boot.IMG seems to be interchangeable between the two (to be confirmed!).
This what I know as today (and I could be wrong, ok?).
As you can see, here lacks at least XT1650-02 & XT1650-04 that I've not found everywhere... (EDIT: they should be both Force editions...)
All integrations & corrections are welcome! :fingers-crossed:
EDIT:
Some official product codes of European/Worldwide versions (they should be all XT1650-03...)
SM4421AE7H1 Moto Z 32GB black/silver Italian unbranded Dual SIM
SM4421AD1H1 Moto Z 32GB white/gold Italian unbranded Dual SIM
SM4385AE7B1 Moto Z 32GB black/silver UK unbranded
SM4385AD1B1 Moto Z 32GB white/gold UK & unbranded
SM4430AE7R8 Moto Z 32GB black/silver German unbranded
SM4430AD1R8 Moto Z 32GB white/gold German unbranded
SM4391AE7E1 Moto Z 32GB black/silver French unbranded Dual SIM
SM4391AD1E1 Moto Z 32GB white/gold French unbranded Dual SIM
SM4388AE7T1 Moto Z 32GB black/silver Norway/Nordic EU unbranded Dual SIM
SM4388AD1T1 Moto Z 32GB white/gold Norway/Nordic EU unbranded Dual SIM
SM4395AE7L1 Moto Z 32GB black/silver Spanish EU unbranded Dual SIM (not sure about it)
SM4395AD1L1 Moto Z 32GB white/gold Spanish EU unbranded Dual SIM (not sure about it)
For Play versions add 2 to SMXXXX code number.
Worldwide:
01076NARTL Moto Z 64 GB black/silver US unbranded
87230LZESA Moto Z 64 GB black/silver Mexican unbranded Dual SIM (JBL & Incipio battery black versions included)
87231LZESA Moto Z 64 GB black/silver Mexican unbranded Dual SIM (JBL & Incipio battery black versions included)
87253LZESA Moto Z 64 GB white/gold Mexican unbranded Dual SIM (JBL & Incipio battery white versions included)
87301LZESA Moto Z 64 GB white/gold Mexican unbranded Dual SIM (JBL & Incipio battery white versions included)
AP3783AE7K8 Moto Z 64 GB black/silver Indian unbranded Dual SIM
AP3783AD1K8 Moto Z 64 GB white/gold Indian unbranded Dual SIM
AP3775AE7X3 Moto Z 64 GB black/silver Malaysian unbranded Dual SIM
AP3775AD1X3 Moto Z 64 GB white/gold Malaysian unbranded Dual SIM
AP3776AE7X3 Moto Z 64 GB black/silver Thai unbranded Dual SIM
AP3776AD1X3 Moto Z 64 GB white/gold Thai unbranded Dual SIM
Q853DQ2RH4 Moto Z 32 GB black/silver Canadian Bell Mobility branded single SIM (locked)
....more will be added.
The rooting method provided recently.. does that work with the Verizon Moto Z?
I purchased the moto z XT1650-03 with AT&T in México, and comes with locked sim, i already unlocked the bootloader following the instrictions of motorola site.
androidbuff123 said:
The rooting method provided recently.. does that work with the Verizon Moto Z?
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No, since of the locked bootloader.
nesgcmx said:
I purchased the moto z XT1650-03 with AT&T in México, and comes with locked sim, i already unlocked the bootloader following the instrictions of motorola site.
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Thank you for your info. Do you know if your specific model support LTE B20?
It seems that only XT1650-01 Verizon's Droid edition is clocked @2,2GHz, while unlocked ones (XT1650-03, XT1650-05 &, perhaps, unlocked XT1650-01 if North Americans unlocked models will be marked this way too) are clocked @1,8 GHz...
Confirms about this?
enetec said:
Thank you for your info. Do you know if your specific model support LTE B20?
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How can i know that?
nesgcmx said:
How can i know that?
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Great question...
Motorola Mexico web site?
Is this band used by Mexico carriers?
I bought mine on Amazon Mexico this week, is the white/gold model with three moto mods and the model is the XT1650-03, is SIM unlocked and, I didn't know this, but is double SIM ready!!! . I don't want to unlock the bootloader yet until some development will arrive.
Which is the diference between griffin and sheridan? I ask this because i'm confused, i was playing around with my moto z (not force), flashing some roms and boot.img what i found in this forums, and now when i put the Phone in fastboot mode, the info says i have a sheridan and don't know and don't remember if always was a sehiran. Or was a griffin and after flash one of the roms changed it from griffin to sheridan haahaha
The roms that i've flashed are for griffin and my Phone works fine.
PD. Sorry for my english i used google translator
As already reported in another thread Motorola has done a big mess with codeames and model numbers...
At least the unlocked Moto Z's are all Griffins even if on bootloader page are reported as Sheridans too (and on some sites too...). I don't know if locked Verizon's Moto Z are considered Griffin too (but they are Sheridans for sure).
Ley me add that about model numbers, XT1650-02 and XT1650-04 should be both Force editions (I don't know differences between the two... )
Updated OP with some European specific part numbers.
enetec said:
Updated OP with some European specific part numbers.
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XT1650-03 Is also US Unlocked model (Firmware does say Griffin, but Bootloader says Sheridan)
So basically everything seems to be XT1650-03 except for Eastern Chinese 05 model and VZW 01 model.
Prfndhatrdofman said:
XT1650-03 Is also US Unlocked model (Firmware does say Girffin, but Bootloader says Sheridan)
So basically everything seems to be XT1650-03 except for Eastern Chinese 05 model and VZW 01 model.
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This is really insane!
Hi all, need advice on a Moto Z China version. I recently purchased this phone and it does not comes with Google Play Services and unfortunately the device prevent you from manually install them into the phone (the services stopped automatically).
Is there a way to install it ? Need advice from all gurus.
Thanks,
Wind
*Opening a new thread for the question*
Updated OP with French versions (dual sim!)
Updated OP with Mexican & Indian versions (all 64 GB, all Dual SIM!)
Updated OP with Norway/Nordic versions (Dual SIM!)
Updated OP with Spanish versions... probably dual SIM.
I've received an unconfirmed info that Italian unbranded versions SM4421xxxH1 are dual SIM too (two IMEI reported on the box...)!
On Motorola.it web site they say single SIM like UK version...
Someone who can confirm or not about this?
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A few questions about the Moto Z Dual SIM
Hello Moto Z community! I was about to buy a Moto Z since the price I found is a complete bargain! (Around 190-200€) But then I realized that it was the dual sim chinese version (XT1650-05) and then a few questions went to my mind... 1.- Would it be compatible with all the roms made for the single sim version? I would never use the second sim slot , I would use it for the sd card 2.- If I buy it, Will it come at least in english? (My first language is spanish, but I could use it in english) 3.- If I buy the gamepad moto mod will it work properly? (I mean in the stock ROM, in the Custom Roms I saw that only a few supports them) I'm a little confusef about the models of this phone and I prefer to ask before buy and make a mistake! Thank you in advance people, and excuse me If I commeted a fail in the text, as I said, english is not my first language
Now it *should* however, double check. Chinese phones usually have more restrictions and slower updates. I'd look for a XT1650-03 model if I were you. It sounds like the XT1650-05 does not come with Google Apps. https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-z/help/moto-z-xt1650-05-sheridan-chinese-t3553793 I just bought this one - https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01LEL8ABY/ and it is a dual SIM 1650-03 RETAPAC model.
I'd already bought a 05, cause un my country I couldn't get a 03 and the 32gb (the one for the EU) is just too expensive and I couldn't buy it, anyway when it arrives I'll test if everything works correctly and then try to install another rom or try the method that is around for install the verizon nougat and later update it to Oreo. Thank you anyway
will single sim model (SM-G9650)[snapdragon] support dual sim if sim tray is changed?
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That's not a canadian model, seems more like the chinese model which should be dual sim.
It's the same model that I have. bought in Chile, and I'm also interested in knowing if it turns out Enviado desde mi SM-G9650 mediante Tapatalk
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I believe the g8x emw version is the only dual Sim version. It was released in europe best I can tell.
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