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I got my phone today, and one of the first things that I did was test all of the Chargers.
My first thought is that the one plus cable that I bought is very high quality. Every charger that I tested, it charge faster than the cheapo ones that I bought on Amazon.
However, what I've been consistently surprised with is that using the same cable this phone charges faster on a Qualcomm quick charge 2 charger than it does on a standard USB charger. I've tested this with all sorts of Chargers around my house and I'm consistently seeing around 1500 when connected to a quick charger, and only a thousand when connected to a standard charger.
The USB C charger that came with the phone is significantly faster. However I wanted to share this so that for those others who bought all sorts of Qualcomm quick charge 2.0 Chargers, don't throw them out. They're still better than a regular charger.
Yeah on a good USB 3.1 cable (nice and thick) with my standard quickcharge charging block (7 ports, 60W total IIRC) I get 'charging rapidly' and it charges better than 1% a minute - about the same rate my N5 did on a much smaller battery. I've still not taken the google charger out of its box yet.. Need to get around to testing it even if I can't see myself using it.
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Yeah on a good USB 3.1 cable (nice and thick) with my standard quickcharge charging block (7 ports, 60W total IIRC) I get 'charging rapidly' and it charges better than 1% a minute - about the same rate my N5 did on a much smaller battery. I've still not taken the google charger out of its box yet.. Need to get around to testing it even if I can't see myself using it.
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Care to share said cable and block?
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I am curious as to what "standard" chargers you are using. I have a wall charger rated at 5v 2.1a (non-QC) per port and a car charger rated at 5v 2.4a (non-QC) per port, and both of those charge at 1500ma. Is it possible that your "standard" chargers are only rated for 5v 1a output?
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Care to share said cable and block?
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http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B010SFDKC6
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00L2SBZ80
My man. Thank you.
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if possible, please post the charging rates and time taken for charging with:
a) bundled type c fast charger
b) qc 2.0 quickcharger
c) standard 5v/2a charger
thanks!!!
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Can anyone recommend a car charger with the right cable combination that would give the fastest charging?
NVM... I found one with reviews stating that it rapid charges their 6P.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0146FK3G0?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00
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Can anyone recommend a car charger with the right cable combination that would give the fastest charging?
NVM... I found one with reviews stating that it rapid charges their 6P.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0146FK3G0?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00
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Bought that one though still waiting on my phone. Like that it has micro USB too for other devices. Charges my HAM2 very fast.
Your results have nothing to do with them being QuickCharge bricks, I have a inline amp meter and I can get 1.5 on any brick with an amp rating high enough, not just my QC bricks that I was using with my Moto X. At least people will know if they have a QC brick they'll get at least that though.
I didn't know this thread existed. I'm getting what I think is pretty poor performance from the stock 6p charger. Please see this post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3234521
UPDATE 12/17/2016 Charger still works great no issues with it and my Pixel XL
Here is the detailed testing review information http://lygte-info.dk/review/USBpower Blitzwold USC-C car charger BW-C3 UK.html
Here you can find more detailed testing reviews on other usb devices http://www.lygte-info.dk/info/indexUSB UK.html OR http://lygte-info.dk/info/ChargerIndex UK.html
UPDATE 11/23/2016, mentioned this charger to Nathan K, and he linked me a review done by HKJ http://budgetlightforum.com/node/45176.
COMMENTS: "He felt it was "a bit too powerful". Translation (and my opinion): it lacks overload protection safeties, avoid.
"No individual port overload protection."
UPDATE 11/15/2016: I tested with my Pixel XL and it handles 1400-1450mA in port (A) using stock a-c cable and 1450-1530mA in port (c) cabled usb-c..
UPDATE 11/12/2016; This morning I plugged in at 66% on phone, ampere showed the charger feeding 2400mA. This is as fast as my zerolemon QC wall charger on my lg g4.
BlitzWolf? 5V 5.4A USB Type C BW-C3 Car Charger 27W
http://us.banggood.com/Wholesale-Wa...t-Google-Chromebook-Pixel-wp-Usa-1008254.html
$4.90 + Free Shipping
Coupon code: b8cb34 51% off for Blitzwolf Bw-C3expired
I just found this deal on slickdeals and I am just posting the deal here if anyone wants to take advantage. I ordered 3 myself. But do not know anything other than that about the product or the site selling them. Use/Order at your own risk!
FIY: I don't think this is capable of charging the Pixel at 18w max, but it should be able to do it safely at 15w (5v 3A). It supposedly can't handle max charging two devices either. It has a permanently attached USB C cable and a USB A slot.
EDIT: Same item on Amazon https://www.amazon.com/Charger-BlitzWolf-Attached-Chromebook-Macbook/dp/B01ALA75I8
PIXEL XL Thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-xl/accessories/blitzwolf-5v-5-4a-usb-type-c-bw-c3-car-t3492163
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PSA; as some of you know Benson Leung fried his Chromebook Pixel while testing. Others may not know that on November 9th Nathan K posted messing up his Pixel's Port controller as well.
https://plus.google.com/102612254593917101378/posts/iFweEx52Rbs?sfc=true
Be careful what accessories, cables you use, including major manufacturer name brands.
This charger is actually awesome. been using it for a year with my nexus 6p and now my pixel, it will only do 15w
Yeah it's still on sale too!
So this is legit safe? because I see all over the place everyone is 'freaking out' about the usb cables I swear when it was just micro usb cables no one cared, but now with this USB C everyone cares all of a sudden?
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So this is legit safe? because I see all over the place everyone is 'freaking out' about the usb cables I swear when it was just micro usb cables no one cared, but now with this USB C everyone cares all of a sudden?
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I wouldn't say everyone. I for instance did not freak out.
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It's only 5v 3A 15w max unless it's defective, it doesnt go any higher than the max a pixel can handle. Like the 9v/3A 12v 15v 20v...
Edit; its a clone of the nekteck on the spreadsheet, YMMV
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1vnpEXfo2HCGADdd9G2x9dMDWqENiY2kgBJUu29f_TX8/pubhtml#
http://www.nekteck.com/usb-type-c-c...-with-integrated-built-in-type-c-31-cord.html
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So this is legit safe? because I see all over the place everyone is 'freaking out' about the usb cables I swear when it was just micro usb cables no one cared, but now with this USB C everyone cares all of a sudden?
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Its because there were several reports with the nexus 6p usb c ports burning up and lots of micro usb to usb c adapters melting, but mostly when the cable was wiggled or phone fell while plugged in.
I think Benson Leung's Pixel fried testing correct if im wrong?
Yeap, bad cable fried it;
https://www.engadget.com/2016/02/03/benson-leung-chromebook-pixel-usb-type-c-test/
So this cable is good for the pixel no probs?
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So this cable is good for the pixel no probs?
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I tested with my Pixel XL and it handles 1400-1450mA in port (A) using stock a-c cable and 1450-1530mA in port (c) cabled usb-c.
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I tested with my Pixel XL and it handles 1400-1450mA in port (A) using stock a-c cable and 1450-1530mA in port (c) cabled usb-c.
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honestly I have no idea what that means, but I will assume its good to go for a Pixel user like me?
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honestly I have no idea what that means, but I will assume its good to go for a Pixel user like me?
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It worked, a little slower than the Google Pixel stock wall charger, and not quite what I would call FAST charging, but it didn't blow up my Pixel yet..
clockcycle said:
It worked, a little slower than the Google Pixel stock wall charger, and not quite what I would call FAST charging, but it didn't blow up my Pixel yet..
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what do you think of this one?
http://www.banggood.com/BlitzWolf-Q...er-p-1049810.html?rmmds=detail-top-unbeatable
Its literally the same thing but QC3?
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what do you think of this one?
http://www.banggood.com/BlitzWolf-Q...er-p-1049810.html?rmmds=detail-top-unbeatable
Its literally the same thing but QC3?
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QC over usb c is bad and that's not $5
Pixel isn't QC.
UPDATE 11/12/2016; This morning I plugged in at 66% on phone, ampere showed the charger feeding 2400mA. This is as fast as my zerolemon QC wall charger on my lg g4.
clockcycle said:
UPDATE 11/12/2016; This morning I plugged in at 66% on phone, ampere showed the charger feeding 2400mA. This is as fast as my zerolemon QC wall charger on my lg g4.
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alright I ordered one haha same one as you thanks for testing! lol
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alright I ordered one haha same one as you thanks for testing! lol
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Let us know how it works for you
Personally tested this charger does not back charge my car when off like some of the tested/ recommended car chargers have been found to do, including Belkin, tronsmart and visnic.
I bought one of these Aukey units but haven't tried with Ampere. <Tested: it delivers 2000ma from both ports to the pixel. Stock wall charger delivers 3000ma.> I've used it with the Pixel, Nexus 5X, LG G4 and Droid Maxx. All of them charge fast. Even the MAXX which isn't a Quickcharge phone charges quite quickly. It has a Fast charge port and a Quickcharge 3.0 port that is backward compatible. All these phones have roughly 3Ah batteries. The Pixel and 5X are type C. The G4 has Quickcharge 2.0 hardware but I don't know if the firmware was ever updated to accept more than Quickcharge 1.0.
https://www.amazon.com/Aukey-CC-T7-...838012&sr=8-2&keywords=aukey+quick+charge+3.0
Anyway, seems quality and beats all the typical 250ma car chargers that can't even keep up with google maps usage.
bump still working great and still on sale $5 shipped.
I wish I had any idea how to determine if a charger was "safe" without just looking at a list of approved chargers
What external battery will work with the Galaxy S8 considering it has USB C now? There was a mess awhile back with people arguing over what was safe and what isn't. Will popular external battery brands such as Anker PowerCore+ be safe or work with the new Galaxy S8?
I've never had a problem with any of my external batteries and any of my phones. I think if you stick with a decent brand, you'll be ok. Just don't use those crappy ones you get from gas stations or whatever.
What's really important is the usb C cable you gonna use, i've been using external batteries with my lg g5 without any issue so far because i keep using the og cable . Don't use any cheap usb C cable or it might kill your device.
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What external battery will work with the Galaxy S8 considering it has USB C now? There was a mess awhile back with people arguing over what was safe and what isn't. Will popular external battery brands such as Anker PowerCore+ be safe or work with the new Galaxy S8?
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I have used my Anker Powercore+ 10050 and Powercore 20100 with my Galaxy S7, S6, Pixel, Nexus 5x, Nexus 6P, Lumia 950, HP Elite X3, Note 5, and my iPhone 6, 6s and iPad Air2 and Air devices just fine. I imagine the S8 shouldn't be a problem.
For my devices that use USB-C, I got an Anker "USB-C to USB 3.0" 3ft that is on their web site (ordered via Amazon). From what I understand using a USB-A to USB-C cable doesn't allow for "fast charging." But it does allow me to charge my Pixel, Nexus, Elite X3, etc at "standard rate" just fine.
I'm not sure what "standard" the S8 is supposed to use for "fast charging" . I don't know if it will be QC2.0, QC3.0, QC4.0, or the same USB-C standard that the Pixel, HP Elite X3, Nexus 5x, etc support. So I don't know if I'll need to upgrade my battery pack to one with USB-C port on it, like the PowerCore+ 20100 USB-C Port.
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But why you want to use external batteries? S8 has powerful battery in-build at this time so dont worry about that.
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I had purchased one of these a while ago for an older phone. You can just reuse the old ones- no need to buy a newer one.
Don't buy sketchy Type-Cs. If you are unsure, Anker is always reliable.
Does anybody already know any battery case that's already out?? Cheers
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I have used my Anker Powercore+ 10050 and Powercore 20100 with my Galaxy S7, S6, Pixel, Nexus 5x, Nexus 6P, Lumia 950, HP Elite X3, Note 5, and my iPhone 6, 6s and iPad Air2 and Air devices just fine. I imagine the S8 shouldn't be a problem.
For my devices that use USB-C, I got an Anker "USB-C to USB 3.0" 3ft that is on their web site (ordered via Amazon). From what I understand using a USB-A to USB-C cable doesn't allow for "fast charging." But it does allow me to charge my Pixel, Nexus, Elite X3, etc at "standard rate" just fine.
I'm not sure what "standard" the S8 is supposed to use for "fast charging" . I don't know if it will be QC2.0, QC3.0, QC4.0, or the same USB-C standard that the Pixel, HP Elite X3, Nexus 5x, etc support. So I don't know if I'll need to upgrade my battery pack to one with USB-C port on it, like the PowerCore+ 20100 USB-C Port.
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If it's anything like the note 7, any battery pack that has a USB A port and supports fast charging will support fast charging on the Gs8. The pixel uses type C power delivery which is really different from Quick Charge. I used the same battery pack from my note 5 but using a type C cable and had no issues with fast charge. Another thing to remember is that if you have a crappy cable, no fast charger will make it charge fast. The oem cable is always a good place to start.
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If it's anything like the note 7, any battery pack that has a USB A port and supports fast charging will support fast charging on the Gs8. The pixel uses type C power delivery which is really different from Quick Charge. I used the same battery pack from my note 5 but using a type C cable and had no issues with fast charge. Another thing to remember is that if you have a crappy cable, no fast charger will make it charge fast. The oem cable is always a good place to start.
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But that is just it... *IF* the S8/S8+ use QuickCharge 2.0 or 3.0 over USB-C, then sure, any battery pack with a USB-A port that supports QC2/3 should fast charge the S8/S8+ with a quality USB-A to USB-C cable.
But if the S8/S8+ instead uses the USB-C fast charge standard that the Pixel, Nexus 6P, etc use (which is NOT QC2.0/3.0) then its another matter. A Battery Pack with USB-A ports likely wont fast charge the S8/S8+.
When I initially posted, I saw nothing speaking of which spec the S8/S8+ uses. I have since seen a few unboxing videos on Youtube which show the S8/S8+ wall charger. It appears to be a QC2 compatible, with the same specs (output voltage/current) as the wall charger that comes with the Galaxy S7. So if that is correct, then yes, any battery pack that supports QC2 should continue quick charging the GS8/S8+ . And the question now becomes... Will the USB-C port on something like this RAVpower -> https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B019IFIJW8/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o07_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 or other USB-C based chargers (wall, car, or battery pack) "Fast Charge" the S8/S8+?
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But that is just it... *IF* the S8/S8+ use QuickCharge 2.0 or 3.0 over USB-C, then sure, any battery pack with a USB-A port that supports QC2/3 should fast charge the S8/S8+ with a quality USB-A to USB-C cable.
But if the S8/S8+ instead uses the USB-C fast charge standard that the Pixel, Nexus 6P, etc use (which is NOT QC2.0/3.0) then its another matter. A Battery Pack with USB-A ports likely wont fast charge the S8/S8+.
When I initially posted, I saw nothing speaking of which spec the S8/S8+ uses. I have since seen a few unboxing videos on Youtube which show the S8/S8+ wall charger. It appears to be a QC2 compatible, with the same specs (output voltage/current) as the wall charger that comes with the Galaxy S7. So if that is correct, then yes, any battery pack that supports QC2 should continue quick charging the GS8/S8+ . And the question now becomes... Will the USB-C port on something like this RAVpower -> https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B019IFIJW8/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o07_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 or other USB-C based chargers (wall, car, or battery pack) "Fast Charge" the S8/S8+?
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What's you're talking about is type C power delivery (which is what the pixel supports and uses for fast charge if I'm not mistaken.) QC 2/3 is not compatible with type c power delivery. QC 4 has the ability to use both, but not QC 2 (which is what it looks like the gs8 uses). So to answer your question, I doubt it. I think the voltage on type c can handle more, so it may charge faster than micro USB, but not as fast as Quick Charge. If you just need a new battery, I'd look for one with type C input/output as well as quick charge 3 and USB power delivery. This article helped a lot when I was looking for a battery pack for the Note 7.
http://m.thewirecutter.com/blog/quick-charge-usb-c/
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What's you're talking about is type C power delivery (which is what the pixel supports and uses for fast charge if I'm not mistaken.) QC 2/3 is not compatible with type c power delivery. QC 4 has the ability to use both, but not QC 2 (which is what it looks like the gs8 uses). So to answer your question, I doubt it. I think the voltage on type c can handle more, so it may charge faster than micro USB, but not as fast as Quick Charge. If you just need a new battery, I'd look for one with type C input/output as well as quick charge 3 and USB power delivery. This article helped a lot when I was looking for a battery pack for the Note 7.
http://m.thewirecutter.com/blog/quick-charge-usb-c/
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Thank your for the link, that will be handy for a few of my friends, I might have even read that a while back too(it looks familiar, but I can't recall). I understand the differences. I was trying to answer the OP's question at the time saying I wasn't sure what standard over USB-C the S8/S8+ was using.. so I didn't know which batteries would "fast charge" the S8/S8+ but they all should work to charge at some rate..
I'm set with batteries.. I already have that RAV (since I have a Pixel, Nexus 6P, Nexus 5X, HP Elite X3, Lumia 950, Huawei p9 for work which all use USB-C), and a few Anker and Aukey in various sizes/capacities that support 5V/2.4A and QC2/3 for my Samsung and apple phones/tablets.
As far as I can tell, with USB-C "Power Delivery" we don't need quickcharge anymore. PD is the new industry standard equivalent of QC, is being pushed by Google, is the only one fully and officially compatible with the USB-C spec and will likely be REQUIRED in future versions of android (https://arstechnica.co.uk/gadgets/2...mm-quick-charge-with-android-incompatibility/). There is no longer any reason to be looking for Quick Charge unless you want to continue to use your existing equipment. What you should be looking for is Power Delivery compatible equipment and cables instead, as they will be future proof. Once Google force PD to be used in future versions of android, QuickCharge will die (thankfully) and we can have a single charging spec that everyone can have guaranteed compatibility with without paying royalties to Qualcomm. Frankly its great news that the S8 has PD (although I am not entirely sure if it is actually using it for fast charging or not), it means I can buy PD gear without having to go out and buy QC stuff thatll probably be obsolete in a year or so.
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As far as I can tell, with USB-C "Power Delivery" we don't need quickcharge anymore. PD is the new industry standard equivalent of QC, is being pushed by Google, is the only one fully and officially compatible with the USB-C spec and will likely be REQUIRED in future versions of android (https://arstechnica.co.uk/gadgets/2...mm-quick-charge-with-android-incompatibility/). There is no longer any reason to be looking for Quick Charge unless you want to continue to use your existing equipment. What you should be looking for is Power Delivery compatible equipment and cables instead, as they will be future proof. Once Google force PD to be used in future versions of android, QuickCharge will die (thankfully) and we can have a single charging spec that everyone can have guaranteed compatibility with without paying royalties to Qualcomm. Frankly its great news that the S8 has PD (although I am not entirely sure if it is actually using it for fast charging or not), it means I can buy PD gear without having to go out and buy QC stuff thatll probably be obsolete in a year or so.
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Where did you see that the gs8 has USB power delivery? Also I dont see quick charge going away especially since quick charge 4.0 supports USB power delivery. http://www.anandtech.com/show/10846/qualcomm-announces-quick-charge-4
I would love to see a single standard adopted and Google forcing oems to use USB-PD is awesome, I don't seen quick charge giving up that easy.
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Where did you see that the gs8 has USB power delivery? Also I dont see quick charge going away especially since quick charge 4.0 supports USB power delivery. http://www.anandtech.com/show/10846/qualcomm-announces-quick-charge-4
I would love to see a single standard adopted and Google forcing oems to use USB-PD is awesome, I don't seen quick charge giving up that easy.
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I read in a couple of places but nothing official and I am not sure if it applied to the SD835 or the Exynos as well, I would imagine both support it but whether Samsung has enabled it is perhaps another matter, something we could do with finding out! Samsung as clear as ever saying it has "fast charging" which means absolutely nothing. It obviously charges quickly, but what bluddy charging standard is it using when it does it!? I have heard that it only has QC2.0 not 3.0 or 4.0, which isn't particularly fast so I suspect it might be using PD for its max speeds.
It's really starting to piss me off. These devices are out there, quite a few people now have them and we still have unanswered BASIC questions like what charging method is it using and does it support UHS-II or UHS-III SD cards. Samsung support are clueless as always, the documentation tells us absolutely nothing and so far I haven't found an answer to either despite hours of searching!
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I read in a couple of places but nothing official and I am not sure if it applied to the SD835 or the Exynos as well, I would imagine both support it but whether Samsung has enabled it is perhaps another matter, something we could do with finding out! Samsung as clear as ever saying it has "fast charging" which means absolutely nothing. It obviously charges quickly, but what bluddy charging standard is it using when it does it!? I have heard that it only has QC2.0 not 3.0 or 4.0, which isn't particularly fast so I suspect it might be using PD for its max speeds.
It's really starting to piss me off. These devices are out there, quite a few people now have them and we still have unanswered BASIC questions like what charging method is it using and does it support UHS-II or UHS-III SD cards. Samsung support are clueless as always, the documentation tells us absolutely nothing and so far I haven't found an answer to either despite hours of searching!
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Well... my S8+ arrived today... So I did some tests to confirm...
As suspected, QC2 over USB-A to USB-C cable (one was included with the GS8+) is how it rapid charges.
Using the GS8+'s cable with my older Anker Powercore+ 10050 (which supports QC2.0 output), the S8+ fast charges. Using Choetech and Anker USB-A to USB-C cables and a Tronsmart 5-port multi-usb charger w/QC2.0 support, the GS8+ also reports fast charging.
Using the USB-C to USB-C cable that came with my pixel, and the USB-C port on my RAVPower 20100mAh (link in an earlier post), or my Pixel's wall adapter, the GS8+ reports "charging". So Samsung is NOT supporting USB-C Power Delivery like is found on the Pixel, Nexus 6P, etc.
If you want, I can provide Amazon links to all items as a reference.
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Well... my S8+ arrived today... So I did some tests to confirm...
As suspected, QC2 over USB-A to USB-C cable (one was included with the GS8+) is how it rapid charges.
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This proves that the S8 doesn't support PD but we still don't know for sure that it does not support QC3
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This proves that the S8 doesn't support PD but we still don't know for sure that it does not support QC3
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Short of timing a charge cycle using a known QC2 charger vs using a known QC3 charger, is there a way to tell? (The Ravppwer battery I have supports QC3 and I have Anker QC2 and QC3 wall chargers, and of course the Tronsmart QC2 wall charger and Anker PowrCore+ that supports QC2)
The wall plug included with the GS8+ is the same as the one with my GS7. Based on listed outputs, it's QC2. From what I understand QC3 goes down to 3.2v which isn't listed as output voltage. if the GS8/8+ supported QC3, I would have hoped they included a charger that supported it.
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PHP:
Short of timing a charge cycle using a known QC2 charger vs using a known QC3 charger, is there a way to tell?.
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Quick Charge 3.0 is really more about efficiency and battery health then charging faster. Since Samsung fast charge is really just a subset of Quick Charge 2.0 anyway, it is possible for the phone to support 3.0 even with the same charger in the box.
In the end the only way we'll really know for sure is if Samsung ever confirms it or someone on this forum uses and in-line voltage meter while charging the phone to see if the voltage changes in 200 mv increments that quick charge 3.0 supports
i wanted to order this Auky car charger.. is it any good?
by the way im using the exynos version if its make a different
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Qualcomm-3-...=item1a149455a4:g:c9sAAOSwnNBXTxFV&rmvSB=true
I now have a couple Qualcomm 3.0 fast chargers, the fast charger from my LG G5, and the One plus fast charger. Only the One plus charger indicates that the 6T is quick charging. My question is if the other fast chargers are still faster to charge this phone than a standard charger.
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I now have a couple Qualcomm 3.0 fast chargers, the fast charger from my LG G5, and the One plus fast charger. Only the One plus charger indicates that the 6T is quick charging. My question is if the other fast chargers are still faster to charge this phone than a standard charger.
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No, you need to use DASH Charger to have fast charging
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No, you need to use DASH Charger to have fast charging
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This link explains it well: https://m.androidcentral.com/dash-charge
They will charge faster than an old .5 amp you may have kicking around in a drawer. Realistically they will charge fast enough because how often do you need every drop you can get as quickly as possible? On the occasions you do need that you just take it to the dash charger and all is good. It's not just me saying that, there was a thread on a previous OnePlus device where someone else said what I just did and the agreement was unanimous. I couldn't argue it myself, I had found just the same to be true; I was typically in no hurry to charge the device and when I was I just made a point of going to the dash charger. I'm not sure what your use case is but if it was to go all dash all the time you may want to consider waiting a little and seeing how it plays out in use. I think you'll find your ok with just the one that came in the box or getting a second for the office or cart and calling it a day.
Someone not only do you need the charger you need the cable to? That wasn't explained in the article. Can you clarify?
marcmarshall said:
This link explains it well: https://m.androidcentral.com/dash-charge
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Sent from my ONEPLUS A6013 using Tapatalk
biggiestuff said:
Someone not only do you need the charger you need the cable to? That wasn't explained in the article. Can you clarify?
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You will need both the official OnePlus cable and wall wort to get the full charging speed.
Are the chargers and cables for the Oneplus 5 and 6 the same as the 6T?
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Are the chargers and cables for the Oneplus 5 and 6 the same as the 6T?
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Yep, they’ve been using the same charger since the 3.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-6/accessories/ordinary-usb-cables-support-dash-t3838411
This post describes how the OPPO charger works with some Amazon cables to give the full 4A charge on a OP6. I've ordered the cables linked in the first post and an OPPO VOOC charger to try out, and keep for a spare / work setup for my 6T once it gets here today.
Where does it say if it's Dash Charging on the phone? With my Note 9 I can see if it's quick charging or not, depending on charger.
roaduardo said:
Where does it say if it's Dash Charging on the phone? With my Note 9 I can see if it's quick charging or not, depending on charger.
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You're probably not going to see the term "Dash Charge" anywhere,since OnePlus stopped using the phrase.
Whether they replaced it w/something else to indicate fast charging is anyone's guess (if there was any indication of Dash (fast) charging on previous OnePlus devices).
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You're probably not going to see the term "Dash Charge" anywhere,since OnePlus stopped using the phrase.
Whether they replaced it w/something else to indicate fast charging is anyone's guess (if there was any indication of Dash (fast) charging on previous OnePlus devices).
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Oh, true. I forgot about the EU legal stuff.
KOLIOSIS said:
You're probably not going to see the term "Dash Charge" anywhere,since OnePlus stopped using the phrase.
Whether they replaced it w/something else to indicate fast charging is anyone's guess (if there was any indication of Dash (fast) charging on previous OnePlus devices).
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You will see a lightning bolt in place for the battery icon when Dash Charging is active, and if you plug in the Dash charger while on the lock screen, it will also make a short blip noise with an animated lightning bolt. Standard chargers and/or cables will show the lightning bolt inside the battery icon. You can always look at the charger current using the *#808# menu though.
Wait does the cable really matters? from the article linked, looks like the tech is only in the adapter
It matters because if you don't use one designed for it you wont get Dash charging, and yeah, its irritating that we have drawers full of cables that we cant use. As to the question of how you can tell, it says "Rapidly charging" on the lock screen. You'll also notice the phone gets charged stupidly fast, that's a big tell.
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Wait does the cable really matters? from the article linked, looks like the tech is only in the adapter
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Yes it does. Pushing 4 amps to get more watts requires low resistance cables, otherwise the resistance will limit maximum wattage. With QuickCharge (instead of DASH charge) voltage is raised instead of current, mitigating the resistance problem.
For QuickCharge there also a handshake telling both the phone and charger that both devices support a certain charging standard. Only then current (or voltage) is raised above normal USB levels. Otherwise you would risk destroying devices which are not capable of fast charging.
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Yes it does. Pushing 4 amps to get more watts requires low resistance cables, otherwise the resistance will limit maximum wattage. With QuickCharge (instead of DASH charge) voltage is raised instead of current, mitigating the resistance problem.
For QuickCharge there also a handshake telling both the phone and charger that both devices support a certain charging standard. Only then current (or voltage) is raised above normal USB levels. Otherwise you would risk destroying devices which are not capable of fast charging.
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Tragic...I invested a lot into my PD chargers for my 2xl guess I need to update everything again
But do you? How often do you NEED dash charge? You can still use all the other charges, they just won't charge as fast, but that's not a bad thing if you are not in a hurry.
The Dash charger works the fastest, however my Quick Charge 3.0 car and wall chargers are still delivering 2 to 3 times more m to my OneTouch 6T then my Galaxy 8 (Rated for Quick Charge 2.0) ever took, that is using higher end usb-c cables but not the Dash cables.
The Highest I ever saw my s8 take was 1300 mA, this 6T will take 2300 mA from my QC 3.0 car charger and 3200 mA from my QC 3.0 wall charger, as long as the battery is under 70%. However, the Dash charger with Dash cable gets around 4800 mA but it seems to fill the battery at a more rapid pace then what I would expect for that amount of power going into it.
The Dash cables have more pins in them to deliver segmented power, at the proper voltage and amperage, to partitioned batteries simultaneously in the 6T without it causing your phone to heat up.
Hi there,
Currently using the OnePlus 7T-Pro and will be using my carrier's upgrade service to switch to the S21 Ultra by the end of January.
Since the S21 doesn't include a charging brick, I'm wondering if it's safe/compatible to use non Samsung branded power brick with it?
Furthermore, would the 30W charging speed of the 7T-Pro brick be equalled on the S21?
Any feedback is appreciated - thanks in advance
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Hi there,
Currently using the OnePlus 7T-Pro and will be using my carrier's upgrade service to switch to the S21 Ultra by the end of January.
Since the S21 doesn't include a charging brick, I'm wondering if it's safe/compatible to use non Samsung branded power brick with it?
Furthermore, would the 30W charging speed of the 7T-Pro brick be equalled on the S21?
Any feedback is appreciated - thanks in advance
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You have to try it. It's safe, yes and it should charge the s21 faster then Samsung's standard 25W charger. Am not sure if OnePlus uses a proprietary USB-C cable, but you'll get the cable from Samsung as well.
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You have to try it. It's safe, yes and it should charge the s21 faster then Samsung's standard 25W charger. Am not sure if OnePlus uses a proprietary USB-C cable, but you'll get the cable from Samsung as well.
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Really helpful...thanks mzsquared
One Plus's Warp chargers will charge other phones very slowly as some of the charging circuitry is built into the phone. I mean like REALLY slow. Just plugged a warp charger into my S20 plus at 71% and it says 10 hours 23 minutes until full.
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One Plus's Warp chargers will charge other phones very slowly as some of the charging circuitry is built into the phone. I mean like REALLY slow. Just plugged a warp charger into my S20 plus at 71% and it says 10 hours 23 minutes until full.
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Hi BladeRunner,
Good lookin out, as they say...sounds like I'll have to go the proprietary route after all.
I'll also update this thread in a couple weeks after testing out the OP charger on the Samsung.
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Hi BladeRunner,
I'll also update this thread in a couple weeks after testing out the OP charger on the Samsung.
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Yes, try it out first and w/ different cables too, the USB 3.0/3.1/3.2 supposed to be all back compatible, but there are many pos* manufacturers who cut corners.
*("profits-over-standards")
You can also try just plain using a cord between your PC and the phone. Really, I've seen fairly decent charging performance this way. Technically USB 3.X has support for some pretty heavy power modes so if your PC can do it then the phone might charge pretty fast. Yes, that limits where you can charge potentially but it might be a decent option for at home or work.
These super fast change my S20+ at maximum speed. I assume it will also work for the S21 series
Amazon.com: Super Fast Charger Type C, PD 25W USB C Wall Charger for Samsung Galaxy S21/S21 Ultra/S21+/S20/S20 Ultra/S20+/Note10/ 10+/Note 20/20 Ultra,Z Fold3 5G[2-Pack Charging Block+2-Pack 5ft USB C Cable] : Cell Phones & Accessories
Amazon.com: Super Fast Charger Type C, PD 25W USB C Wall Charger for Samsung Galaxy S21/S21 Ultra/S21+/S20/S20 Ultra/S20+/Note10/ 10+/Note 20/20 Ultra,Z Fold3 5G[2-Pack Charging Block+2-Pack 5ft USB C Cable] : Cell Phones & Accessories
www.amazon.com
4umexdeeay said:
Hi there,
Currently using the OnePlus 7T-Pro and will be using my carrier's upgrade service to switch to the S21 Ultra by the end of January.
Since the S21 doesn't include a charging brick, I'm wondering if it's safe/compatible to use non Samsung branded power brick with it?
Furthermore, would the 30W charging speed of the 7T-Pro brick be equalled on the S21?
Any feedback is appreciated - thanks in advance
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Update:
The OP charger works but at standard speed, with a description of "Cable charging" when in use.
A properly compatible 25W brick & cable from Amazon, nearly identical to the ones linked by hehfahq above, effectively have the "Super fast charging" speeds.
Thanks to all in this thread for contributing your feedback & guidance.
Same results for me, using Oneplus 5 and 5t power bricks. They charge my s21 Ultra slowly.
My OnePlus 30W brick also charges the S21 at a snails pace. In general, I'm finding charging to be really slow on the S21 compared to my previous OnePlus 3. Granted the battery is 1000mAH larger but the charging times are more than double using PC charging via USB.
Anyone have experience with this charger: Link
You have to look after chargers with Power Delivery system with equal PD generation that is used in the OEM charging brick. And yes, cable could be misconductive aswell so it´s highly recommended to use OEM or similar PD cable with it.