Hi, I am kinda bored of my Moto G3 which have only 8gb memory.
I would like to buy the best q/p phone I can found. So I saw the Xiaomi's phone.
Then I saw the Redmi Note 3 Pro and the Redmi Note 4.
I am wondering, is the Kenzo/Kate still worth buying at the end of year 2016?
If yes, should I consider the Kenzo or Kate?
I don't care about 4G but I care about ROMS (=Kenzo), accessories (=Kenzo) and built quality (=Kate? Newer is better?) as the aftersale can be a real problem with this phone.
And what about the Redmi Note 4? I would trust him more for the build quality but I might be wrong... I know that there is a poor amount of rom/update but if the phone is smooth enough it might be enough for me.
My thanks guys
Go for the Kenzo, you won't regret it.
What you will regret though is wasting your money on the Redmi Note 4 aka a pile of trash.
Kicroy said:
Hi, I am kinda bored of my Moto G3 which have only 8gb memory.
I would like to buy the best q/p phone I can found. So I saw the Xiaomi's phone.
Then I saw the Redmi Note 3 Pro and the Redmi Note 4.
I am wondering, is the Kenzo/Kate still worth buying at the end of year 2016?
If yes, should I consider the Kenzo or Kate?
I don't care about 4G but I care about ROMS (=Kenzo), accessories (=Kenzo) and built quality (=Kate? Newer is better?) as the aftersale can be a real problem with this phone.
And what about the Redmi Note 4? I would trust him more for the build quality but I might be wrong... I know that there is a poor amount of rom/update but if the phone is smooth enough it might be enough for me.
My thanks guys
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Still worth it, i have the RN3 Snapdragon since 02/16 and was thinking to buy a new device, of course the build quality is better on the RN4 and it is looking a little bit nicer, but the RN4 isn't so smooth as the RN3 in some points, for example in gaming, the camera with ONLY 13mp / the software for the camera is also not good, but this is a known miui problem for likely all devices.
You can also find some threads in the miui forum, that Nougat or higher will not be supported for the RN4, but for the RN3 causes of the MTK-chipset. You can find hundreds of cons & pros at the miui forum or somewhere else but at all i'm thinking the RN3 is a good choice and take the Kenzo, more stable than the Kate one for me.
Hope that this will help you a bit :good:
Greetings
*sry for my bad english
Thanks guys
So you would run for this one?
https://fr.aliexpress.com/store/pro...-5-5-3GB-RAM-32GB-ROM/342812_32597684693.html
If i buy it I will pray that they won't release a 4 with 652 or a Redmi 5 in a month :v and that i won't have any hardware issue
I am not sur I can trust Top one, but they are the only one who sales the white RN3P
I want RN4 for design and smoothness but I am also considering Redmi 4 Prime for snapdragon processor
Kicroy said:
Thanks guys
So you would run for this one?
https://fr.aliexpress.com/store/pro...-5-5-3GB-RAM-32GB-ROM/342812_32597684693.html
If i buy it I will pray that they won't release a 4 with 652 or a Redmi 5 in a month :v and that i won't have any hardware issue
I am not sur I can trust Top one, but they are the only one who sales the white RN3P
I want RN4 for design and smoothness but I am also considering Redmi 4 Prime for snapdragon processor
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Yeah, run this one, Top One is legit and ask if you can get the phone SEALED!
I think it is running a custom vendors rom, not so great, if you can get it sealed, it would be better because you dont have to flash an original rom.
When you get it with a vendors rom, then flash over fastboot with mi flash, if fastboot isn't working, simply turn your phone into EDL mode, then flash it :good:
Look on Miui Forum for the tutorial
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Kicroy said:
Thanks guys
So you would run for this one?
https://fr.aliexpress.com/store/pro...-5-5-3GB-RAM-32GB-ROM/342812_32597684693.html
If i buy it I will pray that they won't release a 4 with 652 or a Redmi 5 in a month :v and that i won't have any hardware issue
I am not sur I can trust Top one, but they are the only one who sales the white RN3P
I want RN4 for design and smoothness but I am also considering Redmi 4 Prime for snapdragon processor
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A RN4 with 652 will never come and a Redmi 5 isn't planned for 2016 anymore, Redmi 5 maybe will launch in about 05/2017
Thanks, If there is no more white in stock friday (will buy it friday) can you tell me/gimme a link on how to flash a kenzo rom on kate without having troubles?
Is flashing rom then modem enough to avoid bugs?
Kicroy said:
Thanks, If there is no more white in stock friday (will buy it friday) can you tell me/gimme a link on how to flash a kenzo rom on kate without having troubles?
Is flashing rom then modem enough to avoid bugs?
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You need the LTE band 20 or for what do you want to flash kate?
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You need the LTE band 20 or for what do you want to flash kate?
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Kenzo have more roms, this is why I want a Kenzo or at least flash Kenzo roms on Kate. I don't care about 4g
I think this phone is still a good buy. I went with Kate just so I could get LTE here in the States. I was getting sick of 3G/H+ speeds with my past 5 Xiaomi devices.
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Would you recommend the Redmi Note 3 Pro over the Oneplus 2 if both are going for the same price right now?
Redmi note 3 pro was better, you will get twice update a week with global dev rom.
Sent from my Redmi Note 3 using Tapatalk
Aeonia said:
Would you recommend the Redmi Note 3 Pro over the Oneplus 2 if both are going for the same price right now?
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For Cam one plus 2 i think ....
oneplus 2 has no sd card option and costs 2 times more then redmi note 3 pro... so get a redmi note 3 pro.
160€ compared to 319€ for op2... get a redmi...
i come from an oneplus x and i am totally happy. only thing i miss is oled display
Aeonia said:
Would you recommend the Redmi Note 3 Pro over the Oneplus 2 if both are going for the same price right now?
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It depends on what you're looking for.
If for good camera, then probably one+2,if for good battery life then redmi.
There are many other thing s you have to consider, like type of display, system, sdcard slot etc. So it's really up to your personal preference.
Sent from Note 3, Xiaomi Redmi Note 3.
blitzkid said:
oneplus 2 has no sd card option and costs 2 times more then redmi note 3 pro... so get a redmi note 3 pro.
160€ compared to 319€ for op2... get a redmi...
i come from an oneplus x and i am totally happy. only thing i miss is oled display
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Am getting them for roughly the same price.Does this change things?
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Am getting them for roughly the same price.Does this change things?
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nope not for me because i have a 128 gb sd card so the op2 died for me directly as choice. XD
but if you care about gaming etc, get a op2.
i use my phone for internet and media stuff, so i dont need a good gpu. i am actually realy surprised abeit my redmi note 3 pro. if you want a good costum rom support, get one with the snapdragon (qualcom) processor.
unlock bootloader with official tool like op... worked all like charm, i am happy camera is also fine. i mean... i dont expect an dlsr but camera is pretty fine for a phone.
if your phone goes broken, you have the same ****ty china support by both sides.
additional, miui is kind of nice and you get one dev update per week.
by op you can wait much longer.
but i use aicp rom, so also no matter for me.
so all together: you get a good device if you want updates and sd cards.
if you prefer more a better camera and more performance, get a op2.
but honestly... i dont pay much attention on performance but i am a power user and my xiaomi is working like charm in pro edition with 3gb ram.
the OP2 has less performance !
jordandroid64 said:
the OP2 has less performance !
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How? The 810 soc is very powerful and though it had it's share of overheating, looks like guys on the OP2 forums fixed that with a ton of kernel tweaks. i'm seeing antutu scores of between 90 - 103 on their cm14 rom's and let's not even get started on the GPU...Point is the 810 is very still a flagship soc. Snapdragon 821>820>810>>652>650...
Oh no I don't think, In benchmark s810 better than 650 yes, but in reality.... the a72 are fastest same if they are only 2 than the "old gen" cores of S810...
The GPU isn't stable a long time, when the GPU of 650 is perfectly stable ... looks manhattan longterm performance (30minutes) same if in theory 510 = 418 or 420 in practical it's a stable GPU so really better than us and same than 810, maybe one 810 could be better it's the nexus 6p... but OP2 really not ...
Hello guys
So I've been using my nexus 5x along with my moro e for few months now
Recently my nexus 5x ran into some problems I couldn't solve
So I'm now looking for new device
Is redmi note 4 worth buying for me ?
When I was using nexus 5x. ..I've been using lot of custom ROMs .. Can i expect same from redmi note 4 ?
I need notification light as well
While on nexus 5x. . if I relock my boot loader I could claim my warranty ..does the same goes with xiaomi ?
Please someone answer these questions and suggest me
Modder001
Please ignore grammatical mistakes if any
If you really like MIUI, then I'd say its worth it...There's not a lot available for custom ROMs and I don't know if there ever will be. I also am unsure if Xiaomi will ever bring Nougat to the phone either, though I would expect it at this point.
The phone is pretty fast..It's the software that is holding it back...I have a Nextbit Robin with the 808 processor (Same as your 5x), and this thing smokes the robin in real world performance (And Geekbench4).
My $.02
smokinjoe2122 said:
The phone is pretty fast..It's the software that is holding it back...
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That's the story for every Mi and I've used a couple.
To me the best solution would be getting rid of MIUI and going with stock... but on Mi h/w. Easier said than done though. Ah well at least one can get the Google Now launcher and the app drawer.
I've been a 'flashaholic' with my previous phone the LG G3, and changing to RN4 is a pretty big deal for me(because MediaTek and MIUI)
You can't expect the same support since you're coming from a NEXUS device but there's a decent amount of ROMs for the RN4 here and more to come.
Stock MIUI 8 isn't bad actually, just paired it with root access, nougat theme and nova launcher. All good for me.
Modder001 said:
Hello guys
So I've been using my nexus 5x along with my moro e for few months now
Recently my nexus 5x ran into some problems I couldn't solve
So I'm now looking for new device
Is redmi note 4 worth buying for me ?
When I was using nexus 5x. ..I've been using lot of custom ROMs .. Can i expect same from redmi note 4 ?
I need notification light as well
While on nexus 5x. . if I relock my boot loader I could claim my warranty ..does the same goes with xiaomi ?
Please someone answer these questions and suggest me
Modder001
Please ignore grammatical mistakes if any
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if you get it for cheap then yeah. TRy getting the snapdragon version for INSANE battery life. Apart from that, the MTK version shares all the same features (like camera quality) as the snapdragon one. One thing though; the MTK one charges one hour faster that the Snapdragon version. For the record, the 4100Mah Redmi note 4 MTK charges in 2 hours and 10 minutes from 5% using a 5V 2A charger. add 1 hour for the snapdragon version.
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if you get it for cheap then yeah. TRy getting the snapdragon version for INSANE battery life. Apart from that, the MTK version shares all the same features (like camera quality) as the snapdragon one. One thing though; the MTK one charges one hour faster that the Snapdragon version. For the record, the 4100Mah Redmi note 4 MTK charges in 2 hours and 10 minutes from 5% using a 5V 2A charger. add 1 hour for the snapdragon version.
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Do you know why it takes 1 hour longer?
Wilderone said:
Do you know why it takes 1 hour longer?
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no fast charging. Without it, the 625 SOC won't take in more current vs MTK redmi note 4 which takes 5v 2A.
Thanks to all those who replied
I'm looking forward to buy a snapdragon variant soon
I have one more doubt tho
Does Redmi note 4 has a notificationlight ?
Thanks
Modder001 said:
Thanks to all those who replied
I'm looking forward to buy a snapdragon variant soon
I have one more doubt tho
Does Redmi note 4 has a notificationlight ?
Thanks
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Yes it does.
Nougat based MIUI beta version is available. I have been using 4 GB model & my advice is to just go for it.
I have preferred MIUI & have stuck to Xiaomi handsets. Recently, I purchased Moto Z Play as Xiaomi phones were coming hybrid Sim with just 32 GB internal memory, which were not fulfilling my needs. But I was annoyed by lack of customisation, firewall, Blocklist, Call Recorder, internet speed meter & auto BackUp, which are present in MIUI & are absent in Moto Z Play. Now for Moto Z Play, I had to install a lot of additional softwares, but sense of perfection with MIUI was somehow missing. In first Redmi Note 4 sale, I purchased a 4GB variant & sold Moto Z Play for pittance.
Like the title says, which phone would you consider to replace this one if it were to break? Is there a phone out there that could be a worthy successor?
There are better phones of course.just not for the price.if my rn3 broke I would definitely buy another.i feel that for $180 the choices are very limited and xiaomi hit the mark.thats just my opinion tho.
marcukial said:
There are better phones of course.just not for the price.if my rn3 broke I would definitely buy another.i feel that for $180 the choices are very limited and xiaomi hit the mark.thats just my opinion tho.
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Couldn't ageee more. Even that rn4 is released i still prefer rn3. This phone is just too god for its price.
And if you look that it is on top 3 custom rom devices... Then its very hard to say which will be next or rn3 again:laugh:
Op3t.
Mi 6C
Maybe future redmi note phones...
I'm waiting for a mid-high end or flagship phone with 4000+ mah battery & vooc/dash charging.
Its weird reading users praising their rm3000 ($700+) devices for getting 5-6 hours sot per day while I can easily get 8-10 hours on this 'budget' device.
Oh yeah I want my next phone to have great custom rom support to like this phone.
I'm waiting for mi6 for the price to drop and I'm getting one.
Sent from Note 3, Xiaomi Redmi Note 3.
my rn3 got stolen ..
getting a redmi note 3 again... its better than redmi note 4..
Androbots said:
Mi 6C
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mr.loverlover said:
I'm waiting for mi6 for the price to drop and I'm getting one.
Sent from Note 3, Xiaomi Redmi Note 3.
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I've been looking at the Mi6 as well, but apart from the ram, I don't really see why it might be better. Smaller screen, same MPs camera wise, small battery... I do like the fingerprint scanner on the front, though.
Bimm3r said:
Op3t.
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Not waiting for the Op5?
aeonius said:
Not waiting for the Op5?
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Don't know, possibly too expensive.
Will drag it for 6-8 more months, then going for the OnePlus 5 for sure... Although not going to sell RMN3, will keep it as my backup phone!
aeonius said:
I've been looking at the Mi6 as well, but apart from the ram, I don't really see why it might be better. Smaller screen, same MPs camera wise, small battery... I do like the fingerprint scanner on the front, though.
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Yeah, ram. That's what I'm after. I made a mistake picking RN3Pro with 2gb of ram.
My 2nd reason is the smaller screen. 5,5 is a bit too big for me.
Sent from Note 3, Xiaomi Redmi Note 3.
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Like the title says, which phone would you consider to replace this one if it were to break? Is there a phone out there that could be a worthy successor?
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Mi Max 2 128GB version already pre-ordered
i want to know kenzo user's opinions here about mi5s
I will try to stay with my beloved redmi note 3 as muvh as it lasts!
I will stick with the rn3 until next year. Will try to get the the latest offerings from Xiaomi or OnePlus
I just want one with a snapdragon soc, plemty of ram, headphone jack and micro sd card slot.
mi max 2 with snapdragon 660
Mmm I don't know..i buyed rn3p as a transition phone to buy something better in 2 months. This was at August 2016. The battery, the modding convinced me to take it as daily driver phone.
My retailer has about 3 days to complete my RMA,after that I will get my money back. Unfortunately, Redmi Note 3 Kenzos are not on sale anymore so I was looking towards and alternative. And Xiaomis Redmi 4 lineup is confusing as hell. I tried looking with help of Xiaomi.eu device list,but I´m still not sure. I would like to get a phone with good XDA support but have an option of MIUI9 on Android 7.0 (Mainly Splitscreen mode)
Website is in czech,but you can use Google Translate.
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I´m looking for 32GB/3GB model (they have SD expansion,right?)
Thank you everyone.
dustojnikhummer said:
My retailer has about 3 days to complete my RMA,after that I will get my money back. Unfortunately, Redmi Note 3 Kenzos are not on sale anymore so I was looking towards and alternative. And Xiaomis Redmi 4 lineup is confusing as hell. I tried looking with help of Xiaomi.eu device list,but I´m still not sure. I would like to get a phone with good XDA support but have an option of MIUI9 on Android 7.0 (Mainly Splitscreen mode)
Website is in czech,but you can use Google Translate.
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I´m looking for 32GB/3GB model (they have SD expansion,right?)
Thank you everyone.
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Yep. That's it. Go get it. :good:
And there are tons of custom roms already for Snapdragon variant aka Mido. Good to go.
Thank you. I just wanted to be sure since Xiaomi.eu lists Redmi Note 4 Qualcomm,Redmi Note 4 (MTK version I guess?),Redmi 4x,something called Redmi Note 4x (?) is avaliable in my country as well.. It is more confusing than 3 models. But is Mido the variant with international LTE?
If my Note 3 Pro isnt in this town on Thursday (in my country, Retailers have 30 days for RMA including holidays and such,quite nice), I will try to get my money back and get 32GB version of Note 4 (Mido). I really do not need 64gig model,since I have 32GB SD card for ROMs and music.
dustojnikhummer said:
Thank you. I just wanted to be sure since Xiaomi.eu lists Redmi Note 4 Qualcomm,Redmi Note 4 (MTK version I guess?),Redmi 4x,something called Redmi Note 4x (?) is avaliable in my country as well.. It is more confusing than 3 models. But is Mido the variant with international LTE?
If my Note 3 Pro isnt in this town on Thursday (in my country, Retailers have 30 days for RMA including holidays and such,quite nice), I will try to get my money back and get 32GB version of Note 4 (Mido). I really do not need 64gig model,since I have 32GB SD card for ROMs and music.
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Ah, yeah. Xiaomi's naming scheme completely sucks!
Xiaomi Redmi Note 4x considered as Mido on their website, you've to DL note 4x's EU rom, it'll works for any snapdragon 625 powered Mido, doesn't matter whatever they call it. Ie; in India they sold snapdragon variant of Redmi-note-4 as redmi-note-4 only whereas redmi note 4X on most of the places.
Don't worry, just dont get confused, get the Redmi note 4 /4x which ships with Snapdragon 625 in it, good to go. And yeah, it has storage expansion too.
So Redmi Note 4 with S625 is Mido.. Confusing as hell. Different market,different naming.. Not surprised retailers are confused. I was originaly thinking about 5.2inch Redmi 4,but after seeing how little is community working on it,I will have to live with that giant 5.5inch display.
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So Redmi Note 4 with S625 is Mido.. Confusing as hell. Different market,different naming.. Not surprised retailers are confused. I was originaly thinking about 5.2inch Redmi 4,but after seeing how little is community working on it,I will have to live with that giant 5.5inch display.
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Ye. Ignore the device name, soc matters here lulz xD
Yep. Mido FTW!
Good luck mayte!
Hi,just one more thing. Were you able to find tempered glass screen protector that would fit? Note 4 has (unfortunately) 2.5D glass. At first I was hoping a Note 3 screen protector I have extra would fit,but now I´m really not sure.
Now I´m confused even more. What is Note 4x? Is it Mido as well? I havent found anything about it on Xiaomi.eu phone list. XDA also does not list that phone. Is it Mido as well? I dont want to end up with wrong phone since Czech Resellers are confused as well.
dustojnikhummer said:
Now I´m confused even more. What is Note 4x? Is it Mido as well? I havent found anything about it on Xiaomi.eu phone list. XDA also does not list that phone. Is it Mido as well? I dont want to end up with wrong phone since Czech Resellers are confused as well.
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Ayy, 4X is also Mido (except for Chinese), you can flash redmi note 4 Snapdragon variant Roms / kernels on 4x too. That's just name matters.
dustojnikhummer said:
Now I´m confused even more. What is Note 4x? Is it Mido as well? I havent found anything about it on Xiaomi.eu phone list. XDA also does not list that phone. Is it Mido as well? I dont want to end up with wrong phone since Czech Resellers are confused as well.
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If it has a Snapdragon 625, then it is Mido. My phone is a Note 4X, with SD625. Mido ROMs are perfectly fine on it. Just make sure that it does not have a Mediatek chipset, and you will be fine.
So Chinese version (with "Global"/ EU LTE) is Note 4 and Indian version is 4X? I cant even buy Mediatek version (fortunately) in my country. I´m asking mainly because some sellers on Aliexpress are warning that screen protectors for 4X wont fit 4 etc. Thanks guys! Lets hope I can get my Note 4 in few days.
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So Chinese version (with "Global"/ EU LTE) is Note 4 and Indian version is 4X? I cant even buy Mediatek version (fortunately) in my country. I´m asking mainly because some sellers on Aliexpress are warning that screen protectors for 4X wont fit 4 etc. Thanks guys! Lets hope I can get my Note 4 in few days.
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Ah man... Lemme make this very clear!
Indian version of Redmi-note-4 is of Snapdragon variant (SD 625) and Xiaomi called it ad redmi note 4 only!
Indian variant of Redmi-note-4 is nothing but Xiaomi's all Snapdragon versions of Redmi-note-4/4x with Snapdragon Soc, except some bands / hardware things. You can install redmi note 4 (SD 625) Roms on any Xiaomi's redmi note 4 / 4x variant if it is of Snapdragon 625 soc. (I'm not writing about Chinese variant of Redmi-note-4x here)
All I can say is, don't get confused, just get the one with Snapdragon 625 on it, you're good to go.
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some sellers on Aliexpress are warning that screen protectors for 4X wont fit 4 etc.
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When you get yours, you will see where your screen protector needs to have all its perforations. I have not found it difficult to get tempered glass screen protectors for my 4X (from ebay).
Thanks. I rather ask twice since our Czech Resellers are confused. Thanks! Hopefully I will be able to order mine today or tommorow. And are you using custom ROM or MIUI? I would like to try MIUI 8 on 7.0 Nougat first (Splitscreen)
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Thanks. I rather ask twice since our Czech Resellers are confused. Thanks! Hopefully I will be able to order mine today or tommorow. And are you using custom ROM or MIUI? I would like to try MIUI 8 on 7.0 Nougat first (Splitscreen)
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I'm running custom ROMs from the very beginning! I don't really like Miui... Well that's depends upon the taste xD
I want to get a Kenzo, but i'm not sure if it's too late. Is custom rom development on Kenzo slowing down or coming to a complete halt? I ask because i see fewer Android 8 oreo based roms on Kenzo forum compared to Redmi note 4 SD forum. Any informed opinion will be appreciated.
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I want to get a Kenzo, but i'm not sure if it's too late. Is custom rom development on Kenzo slowing down or coming to a complete halt? I ask because i see fewer Android 8 oreo based roms on Kenzo forum compared to Redmi note 4 SD forum. Any informed opinion will be appreciated.
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It's not about quantity but quality
I have a Kate (basically a Kenzo with extra LATE bands needed in Europe) and my wife has a Mido (Note 4X) and I honestly don't see a point in buying a Kenzo now.
Mido doesn't feel any slower than my phone, it has a better battery life and it has a slightly better camera.
And since Redmi Note 5 is about to go on sale, buying a Kenzo doesn't make any sense. You will be 2 generations behind
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It's not about quantity but quality
I have a Kate (basically a Kenzo with extra LATE bands needed in Europe) and my wife has a Mido (Note 4X) and I honestly don't see a point in buying a Kenzo now.
Mido doesn't feel any slower than my phone, it has a better battery life and it has a slightly better camera.
And since Redmi Note 5 is about to go on sale, buying a Kenzo doesn't make any sense. You will be 2 generations behind
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You are very right. thanks