I want to get a Kenzo, but i'm not sure if it's too late. Is custom rom development on Kenzo slowing down or coming to a complete halt? I ask because i see fewer Android 8 oreo based roms on Kenzo forum compared to Redmi note 4 SD forum. Any informed opinion will be appreciated.
dustmalik said:
I want to get a Kenzo, but i'm not sure if it's too late. Is custom rom development on Kenzo slowing down or coming to a complete halt? I ask because i see fewer Android 8 oreo based roms on Kenzo forum compared to Redmi note 4 SD forum. Any informed opinion will be appreciated.
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It's not about quantity but quality
I have a Kate (basically a Kenzo with extra LATE bands needed in Europe) and my wife has a Mido (Note 4X) and I honestly don't see a point in buying a Kenzo now.
Mido doesn't feel any slower than my phone, it has a better battery life and it has a slightly better camera.
And since Redmi Note 5 is about to go on sale, buying a Kenzo doesn't make any sense. You will be 2 generations behind
Noter2017 said:
It's not about quantity but quality
I have a Kate (basically a Kenzo with extra LATE bands needed in Europe) and my wife has a Mido (Note 4X) and I honestly don't see a point in buying a Kenzo now.
Mido doesn't feel any slower than my phone, it has a better battery life and it has a slightly better camera.
And since Redmi Note 5 is about to go on sale, buying a Kenzo doesn't make any sense. You will be 2 generations behind
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You are very right. thanks
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Hi guys! I've been following your work since I got an old Moto Defy+ like... a gazillion years ago. I'm a big fan of the forum.
I've been rocking a basic Redmi 3 (non-Note) and it works great for the most part. But I'm seeing a lack of developing for it, like I appreciate the work of Anik and everything but apparently many people have choose the Note variant instead the barebones Redmi 3. So much is that, it apparently the Note 3 has recently received official CyanogenMod (correct me if I'm wrong).
So, the question: while I love my current Redmi 3, I'm quite excited to get a new phone before Christmas. I'm no a millionaire so no iPhone or Galaxy S7 Edge for me (nor even a Mi Mix, god I love that phone) so the options are:
- Xiaomi Redmi Note 3 Pro (Global version, B4, B37 bands enabled)
- Xiaomi Redmi Note 4
The Note 3 seems to have ginormous support here in the forums and that's a huge plus, also the fact that comes with LTE B4, meaning I'll get full 4G coverage in my country and basically anywhere. Nevertheless, I'm afraid when
What do you think? If I buy a Redmi Note 3 NOW do I have any chance to have CM support for let's say 10 months/a year. I know it's all speculation but since many devs read the forums maybe they can give me hint. Also, whath's really the difference between the Note 3 and 4, apart from materials and the CPU they look the same.
Many many thanks!
The difference is very small, the note 4 is little more powerful, but if you want cm at this time buy note 3 , if you want see to future buy note 4
Snapdragon CPU have better future, at least in term of devs.
3d performance of RMN4 is worse than RMN3[SD] btw.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZ4rQ_VTrck
definetely redmi note 3...better dev support is everything for me & i love the support for this phone.
mtk device from xiaomi is a big no for me since my previous device is redmi note 2 and the support is very poor because we didn't have any source to build stable custom rom. xiaomi never released they source for mtk device.
Thanks guys! CM support is a huge advantage for me and while I love my current Redmi 3 it seems no many people develop for it.
This morning I bought a Note 3 Pro International Version (B4 and B28 LTE bands yahoo!). Waiting for its arrive.
BTW, GearBest, Aliexpress, DX are all having a sale day (I'm not affiliated in any form to those sites, just saying so you know).
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Snapdragon CPU have better future, at least in term of devs.
3d performance of RMN4 is worse than RMN3[SD] btw.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZ4rQ_VTrck
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I did not see that video and in no way I was expecting that kind of defeat by the RN3 against the 4. It literally obliterated it.
Sure, in math calculation is faster because it has 10 cores but man... That was criminal. Even happier now that I saw this! Thanks.
Hi, I am kinda bored of my Moto G3 which have only 8gb memory.
I would like to buy the best q/p phone I can found. So I saw the Xiaomi's phone.
Then I saw the Redmi Note 3 Pro and the Redmi Note 4.
I am wondering, is the Kenzo/Kate still worth buying at the end of year 2016?
If yes, should I consider the Kenzo or Kate?
I don't care about 4G but I care about ROMS (=Kenzo), accessories (=Kenzo) and built quality (=Kate? Newer is better?) as the aftersale can be a real problem with this phone.
And what about the Redmi Note 4? I would trust him more for the build quality but I might be wrong... I know that there is a poor amount of rom/update but if the phone is smooth enough it might be enough for me.
My thanks guys
Go for the Kenzo, you won't regret it.
What you will regret though is wasting your money on the Redmi Note 4 aka a pile of trash.
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Hi, I am kinda bored of my Moto G3 which have only 8gb memory.
I would like to buy the best q/p phone I can found. So I saw the Xiaomi's phone.
Then I saw the Redmi Note 3 Pro and the Redmi Note 4.
I am wondering, is the Kenzo/Kate still worth buying at the end of year 2016?
If yes, should I consider the Kenzo or Kate?
I don't care about 4G but I care about ROMS (=Kenzo), accessories (=Kenzo) and built quality (=Kate? Newer is better?) as the aftersale can be a real problem with this phone.
And what about the Redmi Note 4? I would trust him more for the build quality but I might be wrong... I know that there is a poor amount of rom/update but if the phone is smooth enough it might be enough for me.
My thanks guys
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Still worth it, i have the RN3 Snapdragon since 02/16 and was thinking to buy a new device, of course the build quality is better on the RN4 and it is looking a little bit nicer, but the RN4 isn't so smooth as the RN3 in some points, for example in gaming, the camera with ONLY 13mp / the software for the camera is also not good, but this is a known miui problem for likely all devices.
You can also find some threads in the miui forum, that Nougat or higher will not be supported for the RN4, but for the RN3 causes of the MTK-chipset. You can find hundreds of cons & pros at the miui forum or somewhere else but at all i'm thinking the RN3 is a good choice and take the Kenzo, more stable than the Kate one for me.
Hope that this will help you a bit :good:
Greetings
*sry for my bad english
Thanks guys
So you would run for this one?
https://fr.aliexpress.com/store/pro...-5-5-3GB-RAM-32GB-ROM/342812_32597684693.html
If i buy it I will pray that they won't release a 4 with 652 or a Redmi 5 in a month :v and that i won't have any hardware issue
I am not sur I can trust Top one, but they are the only one who sales the white RN3P
I want RN4 for design and smoothness but I am also considering Redmi 4 Prime for snapdragon processor
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Thanks guys
So you would run for this one?
https://fr.aliexpress.com/store/pro...-5-5-3GB-RAM-32GB-ROM/342812_32597684693.html
If i buy it I will pray that they won't release a 4 with 652 or a Redmi 5 in a month :v and that i won't have any hardware issue
I am not sur I can trust Top one, but they are the only one who sales the white RN3P
I want RN4 for design and smoothness but I am also considering Redmi 4 Prime for snapdragon processor
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Yeah, run this one, Top One is legit and ask if you can get the phone SEALED!
I think it is running a custom vendors rom, not so great, if you can get it sealed, it would be better because you dont have to flash an original rom.
When you get it with a vendors rom, then flash over fastboot with mi flash, if fastboot isn't working, simply turn your phone into EDL mode, then flash it :good:
Look on Miui Forum for the tutorial
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Kicroy said:
Thanks guys
So you would run for this one?
https://fr.aliexpress.com/store/pro...-5-5-3GB-RAM-32GB-ROM/342812_32597684693.html
If i buy it I will pray that they won't release a 4 with 652 or a Redmi 5 in a month :v and that i won't have any hardware issue
I am not sur I can trust Top one, but they are the only one who sales the white RN3P
I want RN4 for design and smoothness but I am also considering Redmi 4 Prime for snapdragon processor
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A RN4 with 652 will never come and a Redmi 5 isn't planned for 2016 anymore, Redmi 5 maybe will launch in about 05/2017
Thanks, If there is no more white in stock friday (will buy it friday) can you tell me/gimme a link on how to flash a kenzo rom on kate without having troubles?
Is flashing rom then modem enough to avoid bugs?
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Thanks, If there is no more white in stock friday (will buy it friday) can you tell me/gimme a link on how to flash a kenzo rom on kate without having troubles?
Is flashing rom then modem enough to avoid bugs?
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You need the LTE band 20 or for what do you want to flash kate?
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You need the LTE band 20 or for what do you want to flash kate?
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Kenzo have more roms, this is why I want a Kenzo or at least flash Kenzo roms on Kate. I don't care about 4g
I think this phone is still a good buy. I went with Kate just so I could get LTE here in the States. I was getting sick of 3G/H+ speeds with my past 5 Xiaomi devices.
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Hello all
Am planning to buy it soon and wondering which version should I get
Kenzo or Kate?
I had nexus 4 since I got into smartphones.
I care about having last miui version and high screen on time
Thank you everyone
lolrko said:
Hello all
Am planning to buy it soon and wondering which version should I get
Kenzo or Kate?
I had nexus 4 since I got into smartphones.
I care about having last miui version and high screen on time
Thank you everyone
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Well, in this case both of these versions will be a great choice, with small advantage to Kenzo maybe (it sometimes gets miui update first).
You should consider some other things before buying Kenzo or Kate.
1) do you need lte-800mhz (if yes, pick kate)
2) do you want to flash custom roms (pick kenzo)
3) do you want to have some protection case (if yes, pick Kenzo - Kate is a bit higher)
Those are the main differences. Battery life will be the same, since they have same specs.
Sent from Note 3, Xiaomi Redmi Note 3.
mr.loverlover said:
Well, in this case both of these versions will be a great choice, with small advantage to Kenzo maybe (it sometimes gets miui update first).
You should consider some other things before buying Kenzo or Kate.
1) do you need lte-800mhz (if yes, pick kate)
2) do you want to flash custom roms (pick kenzo)
3) do you want to have some protection case (if yes, pick Kenzo - Kate is a bit higher)
Those are the main differences. Battery life will be the same, since they have same specs.
Sent from Note 3, Xiaomi Redmi Note 3.
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Thank you mate I guess I don't really care about the lte.
I care more about faster updates and customization.
lolrko said:
Hello all
Am planning to buy it soon and wondering which version should I get
Kenzo or Kate?
I had nexus 4 since I got into smartphones.
I care about having last miui version and high screen on time
Thank you everyone
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Kate, forget about kenzo.
Better reception, fcp fingerprint (new kenzo has goodfix with custom ROM issues), most tpu cases fit just fine.
I'm using psy man's cm14.1 firmware and both cm14.1 and cm13 work perfectly fine with no issues whatsoever, without changing firmware.
Edit: better reception as in better signal overall, I'm getting LTE where with kenzo I barley got 3g working.
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Kate, forget about kenzo.
Better reception, fcp fingerprint (new kenzo has goodfix with custom ROM issues), most tpu cases fit just fine.
I'm using psy man's cm14.1 firmware and both cm14.1 and cm13 work perfectly fine with no issues whatsoever, without changing firmware.
Edit: better reception as in better signal overall, I'm getting LTE where with kenzo I barley got 3g working.
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So all new kate are better than new kenzo regarding the fingerprint. But updates wise what about ota updates?
It's not worth getting a Kate if you have no need for B20, you can easily get Goodix working with a single patch. You'll be able to get Kenzo a bit cheaper.
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So all new kate are better than new kenzo regarding the fingerprint. But updates wise what about ota updates?
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MIUI updates are all the same, and even all cm Roms are the same.
MIUI updates are all the same - mostly, yes
all cm Roms are the same - yes, but availability of Kate custom roms is much worse.
Sent from Note 3, Xiaomi Redmi Note 3.
Hello guys
So I've been using my nexus 5x along with my moro e for few months now
Recently my nexus 5x ran into some problems I couldn't solve
So I'm now looking for new device
Is redmi note 4 worth buying for me ?
When I was using nexus 5x. ..I've been using lot of custom ROMs .. Can i expect same from redmi note 4 ?
I need notification light as well
While on nexus 5x. . if I relock my boot loader I could claim my warranty ..does the same goes with xiaomi ?
Please someone answer these questions and suggest me
Modder001
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If you really like MIUI, then I'd say its worth it...There's not a lot available for custom ROMs and I don't know if there ever will be. I also am unsure if Xiaomi will ever bring Nougat to the phone either, though I would expect it at this point.
The phone is pretty fast..It's the software that is holding it back...I have a Nextbit Robin with the 808 processor (Same as your 5x), and this thing smokes the robin in real world performance (And Geekbench4).
My $.02
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The phone is pretty fast..It's the software that is holding it back...
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That's the story for every Mi and I've used a couple.
To me the best solution would be getting rid of MIUI and going with stock... but on Mi h/w. Easier said than done though. Ah well at least one can get the Google Now launcher and the app drawer.
I've been a 'flashaholic' with my previous phone the LG G3, and changing to RN4 is a pretty big deal for me(because MediaTek and MIUI)
You can't expect the same support since you're coming from a NEXUS device but there's a decent amount of ROMs for the RN4 here and more to come.
Stock MIUI 8 isn't bad actually, just paired it with root access, nougat theme and nova launcher. All good for me.
Modder001 said:
Hello guys
So I've been using my nexus 5x along with my moro e for few months now
Recently my nexus 5x ran into some problems I couldn't solve
So I'm now looking for new device
Is redmi note 4 worth buying for me ?
When I was using nexus 5x. ..I've been using lot of custom ROMs .. Can i expect same from redmi note 4 ?
I need notification light as well
While on nexus 5x. . if I relock my boot loader I could claim my warranty ..does the same goes with xiaomi ?
Please someone answer these questions and suggest me
Modder001
Please ignore grammatical mistakes if any
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if you get it for cheap then yeah. TRy getting the snapdragon version for INSANE battery life. Apart from that, the MTK version shares all the same features (like camera quality) as the snapdragon one. One thing though; the MTK one charges one hour faster that the Snapdragon version. For the record, the 4100Mah Redmi note 4 MTK charges in 2 hours and 10 minutes from 5% using a 5V 2A charger. add 1 hour for the snapdragon version.
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if you get it for cheap then yeah. TRy getting the snapdragon version for INSANE battery life. Apart from that, the MTK version shares all the same features (like camera quality) as the snapdragon one. One thing though; the MTK one charges one hour faster that the Snapdragon version. For the record, the 4100Mah Redmi note 4 MTK charges in 2 hours and 10 minutes from 5% using a 5V 2A charger. add 1 hour for the snapdragon version.
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Do you know why it takes 1 hour longer?
Wilderone said:
Do you know why it takes 1 hour longer?
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no fast charging. Without it, the 625 SOC won't take in more current vs MTK redmi note 4 which takes 5v 2A.
Thanks to all those who replied
I'm looking forward to buy a snapdragon variant soon
I have one more doubt tho
Does Redmi note 4 has a notificationlight ?
Thanks
Modder001 said:
Thanks to all those who replied
I'm looking forward to buy a snapdragon variant soon
I have one more doubt tho
Does Redmi note 4 has a notificationlight ?
Thanks
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Yes it does.
Nougat based MIUI beta version is available. I have been using 4 GB model & my advice is to just go for it.
I have preferred MIUI & have stuck to Xiaomi handsets. Recently, I purchased Moto Z Play as Xiaomi phones were coming hybrid Sim with just 32 GB internal memory, which were not fulfilling my needs. But I was annoyed by lack of customisation, firewall, Blocklist, Call Recorder, internet speed meter & auto BackUp, which are present in MIUI & are absent in Moto Z Play. Now for Moto Z Play, I had to install a lot of additional softwares, but sense of perfection with MIUI was somehow missing. In first Redmi Note 4 sale, I purchased a 4GB variant & sold Moto Z Play for pittance.
The battery on my Redmi Note 2 is going funny so might use the opportunity to upgrade. Asking some questions might help me and others decide if Note 4X is worth upgrading.
What is SOT like? does the Note 4X suffer from same battery drain as Note 2?
Any battery failures to date?
Build quality good?
Xiaomi.eu rom a good choice? (I quite like MIUI)
Will there be an official Lineage OS ROM? and good selection of roms?
Any major or minor issues I should know about?
Is a Redmi Note 5 expected any time soon?
ianonfire said:
The battery on my Redmi Note 2 is going funny so might use the opportunity to upgrade. Asking some questions might help me and others decide if Note 4X is worth upgrading.
What is SOT like? does the Note 4X suffer from same battery drain as Note 2?
Any battery failures to date?
Build quality good?
Xiaomi.eu rom a good choice? (I quite like MIUI)
Will there be an official Lineage OS ROM? and good selection of roms?
Any major or minor issues I should know about?
Is a Redmi Note 5 expected any time soon?
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SOT is like 10hrs+ on Miui and I'm using Custom roms, getting almost same battery. On LTE only, I used to browse + Telegram.
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Yep, indeed, and has 2.5d glass as well.
Yes. I hate Miui too and I'm using Custom at the moment. Xiaomi eu is also good choice.
Yes, we'll get official Los and currently there are tons of Roms available. RR /AEX / PA / OMNI etc etc..
Apparently i heard about dead pixels on some devices, solution is to visit a nearby SC and get yo screen replaced.
That's gonna 2018. Not now, I guess.