Hello all
Am planning to buy it soon and wondering which version should I get
Kenzo or Kate?
I had nexus 4 since I got into smartphones.
I care about having last miui version and high screen on time
Thank you everyone
lolrko said:
Hello all
Am planning to buy it soon and wondering which version should I get
Kenzo or Kate?
I had nexus 4 since I got into smartphones.
I care about having last miui version and high screen on time
Thank you everyone
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Well, in this case both of these versions will be a great choice, with small advantage to Kenzo maybe (it sometimes gets miui update first).
You should consider some other things before buying Kenzo or Kate.
1) do you need lte-800mhz (if yes, pick kate)
2) do you want to flash custom roms (pick kenzo)
3) do you want to have some protection case (if yes, pick Kenzo - Kate is a bit higher)
Those are the main differences. Battery life will be the same, since they have same specs.
Sent from Note 3, Xiaomi Redmi Note 3.
mr.loverlover said:
Well, in this case both of these versions will be a great choice, with small advantage to Kenzo maybe (it sometimes gets miui update first).
You should consider some other things before buying Kenzo or Kate.
1) do you need lte-800mhz (if yes, pick kate)
2) do you want to flash custom roms (pick kenzo)
3) do you want to have some protection case (if yes, pick Kenzo - Kate is a bit higher)
Those are the main differences. Battery life will be the same, since they have same specs.
Sent from Note 3, Xiaomi Redmi Note 3.
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Thank you mate I guess I don't really care about the lte.
I care more about faster updates and customization.
lolrko said:
Hello all
Am planning to buy it soon and wondering which version should I get
Kenzo or Kate?
I had nexus 4 since I got into smartphones.
I care about having last miui version and high screen on time
Thank you everyone
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Kate, forget about kenzo.
Better reception, fcp fingerprint (new kenzo has goodfix with custom ROM issues), most tpu cases fit just fine.
I'm using psy man's cm14.1 firmware and both cm14.1 and cm13 work perfectly fine with no issues whatsoever, without changing firmware.
Edit: better reception as in better signal overall, I'm getting LTE where with kenzo I barley got 3g working.
vkass said:
Kate, forget about kenzo.
Better reception, fcp fingerprint (new kenzo has goodfix with custom ROM issues), most tpu cases fit just fine.
I'm using psy man's cm14.1 firmware and both cm14.1 and cm13 work perfectly fine with no issues whatsoever, without changing firmware.
Edit: better reception as in better signal overall, I'm getting LTE where with kenzo I barley got 3g working.
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So all new kate are better than new kenzo regarding the fingerprint. But updates wise what about ota updates?
It's not worth getting a Kate if you have no need for B20, you can easily get Goodix working with a single patch. You'll be able to get Kenzo a bit cheaper.
lolrko said:
So all new kate are better than new kenzo regarding the fingerprint. But updates wise what about ota updates?
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MIUI updates are all the same, and even all cm Roms are the same.
MIUI updates are all the same - mostly, yes
all cm Roms are the same - yes, but availability of Kate custom roms is much worse.
Sent from Note 3, Xiaomi Redmi Note 3.
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Hi, I am kinda bored of my Moto G3 which have only 8gb memory.
I would like to buy the best q/p phone I can found. So I saw the Xiaomi's phone.
Then I saw the Redmi Note 3 Pro and the Redmi Note 4.
I am wondering, is the Kenzo/Kate still worth buying at the end of year 2016?
If yes, should I consider the Kenzo or Kate?
I don't care about 4G but I care about ROMS (=Kenzo), accessories (=Kenzo) and built quality (=Kate? Newer is better?) as the aftersale can be a real problem with this phone.
And what about the Redmi Note 4? I would trust him more for the build quality but I might be wrong... I know that there is a poor amount of rom/update but if the phone is smooth enough it might be enough for me.
My thanks guys
Go for the Kenzo, you won't regret it.
What you will regret though is wasting your money on the Redmi Note 4 aka a pile of trash.
Kicroy said:
Hi, I am kinda bored of my Moto G3 which have only 8gb memory.
I would like to buy the best q/p phone I can found. So I saw the Xiaomi's phone.
Then I saw the Redmi Note 3 Pro and the Redmi Note 4.
I am wondering, is the Kenzo/Kate still worth buying at the end of year 2016?
If yes, should I consider the Kenzo or Kate?
I don't care about 4G but I care about ROMS (=Kenzo), accessories (=Kenzo) and built quality (=Kate? Newer is better?) as the aftersale can be a real problem with this phone.
And what about the Redmi Note 4? I would trust him more for the build quality but I might be wrong... I know that there is a poor amount of rom/update but if the phone is smooth enough it might be enough for me.
My thanks guys
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Still worth it, i have the RN3 Snapdragon since 02/16 and was thinking to buy a new device, of course the build quality is better on the RN4 and it is looking a little bit nicer, but the RN4 isn't so smooth as the RN3 in some points, for example in gaming, the camera with ONLY 13mp / the software for the camera is also not good, but this is a known miui problem for likely all devices.
You can also find some threads in the miui forum, that Nougat or higher will not be supported for the RN4, but for the RN3 causes of the MTK-chipset. You can find hundreds of cons & pros at the miui forum or somewhere else but at all i'm thinking the RN3 is a good choice and take the Kenzo, more stable than the Kate one for me.
Hope that this will help you a bit :good:
Greetings
*sry for my bad english
Thanks guys
So you would run for this one?
https://fr.aliexpress.com/store/pro...-5-5-3GB-RAM-32GB-ROM/342812_32597684693.html
If i buy it I will pray that they won't release a 4 with 652 or a Redmi 5 in a month :v and that i won't have any hardware issue
I am not sur I can trust Top one, but they are the only one who sales the white RN3P
I want RN4 for design and smoothness but I am also considering Redmi 4 Prime for snapdragon processor
Kicroy said:
Thanks guys
So you would run for this one?
https://fr.aliexpress.com/store/pro...-5-5-3GB-RAM-32GB-ROM/342812_32597684693.html
If i buy it I will pray that they won't release a 4 with 652 or a Redmi 5 in a month :v and that i won't have any hardware issue
I am not sur I can trust Top one, but they are the only one who sales the white RN3P
I want RN4 for design and smoothness but I am also considering Redmi 4 Prime for snapdragon processor
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Yeah, run this one, Top One is legit and ask if you can get the phone SEALED!
I think it is running a custom vendors rom, not so great, if you can get it sealed, it would be better because you dont have to flash an original rom.
When you get it with a vendors rom, then flash over fastboot with mi flash, if fastboot isn't working, simply turn your phone into EDL mode, then flash it :good:
Look on Miui Forum for the tutorial
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Kicroy said:
Thanks guys
So you would run for this one?
https://fr.aliexpress.com/store/pro...-5-5-3GB-RAM-32GB-ROM/342812_32597684693.html
If i buy it I will pray that they won't release a 4 with 652 or a Redmi 5 in a month :v and that i won't have any hardware issue
I am not sur I can trust Top one, but they are the only one who sales the white RN3P
I want RN4 for design and smoothness but I am also considering Redmi 4 Prime for snapdragon processor
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A RN4 with 652 will never come and a Redmi 5 isn't planned for 2016 anymore, Redmi 5 maybe will launch in about 05/2017
Thanks, If there is no more white in stock friday (will buy it friday) can you tell me/gimme a link on how to flash a kenzo rom on kate without having troubles?
Is flashing rom then modem enough to avoid bugs?
Kicroy said:
Thanks, If there is no more white in stock friday (will buy it friday) can you tell me/gimme a link on how to flash a kenzo rom on kate without having troubles?
Is flashing rom then modem enough to avoid bugs?
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You need the LTE band 20 or for what do you want to flash kate?
7risto said:
You need the LTE band 20 or for what do you want to flash kate?
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Kenzo have more roms, this is why I want a Kenzo or at least flash Kenzo roms on Kate. I don't care about 4g
I think this phone is still a good buy. I went with Kate just so I could get LTE here in the States. I was getting sick of 3G/H+ speeds with my past 5 Xiaomi devices.
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Guys,
So I'll be spending three months abroad, and likely to travel a fair bit for my job in the next few years. I'd like to get myself a dual-sim phone - one sim with my current home phone number, the other for the US sim (or wherever I go). I've been looking at Xiaomi phones for a while now, and the RN3 SnapDragon is the best value, I would think.
My current phone is a Nexus 5X - I bought it because I love stock android. For me, MIUI is an absolute non-starter. (I've also got an HTC One M8, and tried MIUI 7 and 8 on it - can't stand it.) So I'd have to rely on custom ROMs.
Hence my question : Are any of the N ROMs on Kate stable for daily, dual-sim use? I've gotten used to N on my Nexus and would find it hard to go back to MM (but I could if needed). I mostly use my phone as a communications node (calls, texts), as a web browser, and as a music player in my car via BT.
Thanks much!
Camera Bugs and Flashlight are the most popular issues encountered in N ROMs, some apps crashing and like that. So, in my opinion, I'd stick with MM ROMs for now. I'm using the Lineage OS 13.0 ROM as my daily driver.
I'm using Resurrection remix for the last 4 days and since then no reboot was even needed, so it seems stable for me. There are small bugs, like the flashlight bug and disappearing battery information from the statusbar (this may be RR specific bug), but for me it's no big deal.
Sent from Note 3, Xiaomi Redmi Note 3.
Pretty much stable for me. The main problem are the incompatible camera HAL driver. But it's not big deal. Just flashlight toogle must pressed 2-3 times for turn on sometimes, and random crash on camera. It can be fixed by flashing google camera from OpenGapps.
Yes, use last cm official nightly. I'm using from 2 months without any issue
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Don't flash any custom kernel or anything
OK - so no crashes with Google Camera? Other than that (and the flashlight toggle), pretty stable on CM14.1? (And by CM, I assume you mean Lineage?)
Okay, so BabyTedhu said Google Camera works, so I flashed CM 14.1 with Stock GAPPS (Google Camera replaces Stock AOSP), is it by default that you can't save through SD card? There's no option to save thru SD card.
SilverJS said:
OK - so no crashes with Google Camera? Other than that (and the flashlight toggle), pretty stable on CM14.1? (And by CM, I assume you mean Lineage?)
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Yes
exce1ia said:
Okay, so BabyTedhu said Google Camera works, so I flashed CM 14.1 with Stock GAPPS (Google Camera replaces Stock AOSP), is it by default that you can't save through SD card? There's no option to save thru SD card.
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There's no option to save through sd card. It's set by google.
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Try nitrogen os rom. Most stable nougat for now. Camera and fp works fine with stock kernel
Nougat is pretty much stable already, but I would recommend getting a kenzo over a kate so that you can flash custom software easily. Also, it is slightly easier to find accesories for the kenzo.
Ya nitrogen os has no camera bug it is stable 99%. As compared to other Android 7 roms
Using RR nightly, Smooth & rare bugs which mentioned earlier.
Any Other better ROM than this? Nitrogen vs RR ? Which is best ?
Even Slim ROM shows stable build. Any EXP. on this ?
OK, awesome. Good to know. I wasn't tracking Nitrogen OS, thanks to whoever pointed that out. I'm a huge fan of the Slim series in general, really hoping that it'll be good to go on RN3 soon.
Thanks to everyone for the inputs! I was scared for a bit that I'd have to invest in a Mi5 (their Nougat ROMs seemed to be pretty stable, from what I could read), but glad to know I won't have to. This is just for a travel phone anyway, and the RN3 would be fine for that.
Cheers!
Go for Redmi note 3 pro(kenzo) as development for this model is absolutely amazing. Don't go for the (kate) as it's very difficult to mod that device and also can't flash custom ROM easily on it.
But he is getting the kate since he would be travelling a lot. So those extra bands might help him??
Well - my understanding is Kate only has one additional band (20) which wouldn't even be used in the States (where I'd do 60-70% of my travel). The regular Kenzo is still a fair bit better than most traditional Xiaomi phones in terms of LTE band availability. But honestly, LTE band availability is not a big deal to me. Any Xiaomi phone would be fine - I just talk/text, and do light web surfing when I'm using cell data. Most of my heavy lifting happens when I'm home or on a WiFi connection.
AFAIK, you can use Kenzo ROMs with Kate easily. Just flash Kate firmware-update folder.
Oh really?!? That makes a big difference then. But what do you mean : "Just flash Kate firmware-update folder"?
SilverJS said:
Oh really?!? That makes a big difference then. But what do you mean : "Just flash Kate firmware-update folder"?
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MIUI ROMs contain a folder with firmware for the base band. That's the "firmware-update" folder I'm talking about. There are threads in this forum which provide Kate firmware to replace in Kenzo ROMs.
The battery on my Redmi Note 2 is going funny so might use the opportunity to upgrade. Asking some questions might help me and others decide if Note 4X is worth upgrading.
What is SOT like? does the Note 4X suffer from same battery drain as Note 2?
Any battery failures to date?
Build quality good?
Xiaomi.eu rom a good choice? (I quite like MIUI)
Will there be an official Lineage OS ROM? and good selection of roms?
Any major or minor issues I should know about?
Is a Redmi Note 5 expected any time soon?
ianonfire said:
The battery on my Redmi Note 2 is going funny so might use the opportunity to upgrade. Asking some questions might help me and others decide if Note 4X is worth upgrading.
What is SOT like? does the Note 4X suffer from same battery drain as Note 2?
Any battery failures to date?
Build quality good?
Xiaomi.eu rom a good choice? (I quite like MIUI)
Will there be an official Lineage OS ROM? and good selection of roms?
Any major or minor issues I should know about?
Is a Redmi Note 5 expected any time soon?
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SOT is like 10hrs+ on Miui and I'm using Custom roms, getting almost same battery. On LTE only, I used to browse + Telegram.
None
Yep, indeed, and has 2.5d glass as well.
Yes. I hate Miui too and I'm using Custom at the moment. Xiaomi eu is also good choice.
Yes, we'll get official Los and currently there are tons of Roms available. RR /AEX / PA / OMNI etc etc..
Apparently i heard about dead pixels on some devices, solution is to visit a nearby SC and get yo screen replaced.
That's gonna 2018. Not now, I guess.
Guys..
I'm going to buy Redmi Note 4x. And I'm new to Xiaomi.
I have some questions
1. What is the best SOT you got from Redmi 4x and also tell me what Rom you are using?
2. I heard that Audio recording is very poor in RN4x. Is that true? If yes is there anyway to fix it??
3. How about overall camera quality in Rear And front both Cameras ??
4. What if I Flash Lineage Os ? Then how will be the battery on Lineage Os?
Hope you guys will help me out.
PraSadRav said:
Guys..
I'm going to buy Redmi Note 4x. And I'm new to Xiaomi.
I have some questions
1. What is the best SOT you got from Redmi 4x and also tell me what Rom you are using?
2. I heard that Audio recording is very poor in RN4x. Is that true? If yes is there anyway to fix it??
3. How about overall camera quality in Rear And front both Cameras ??
4. What if I Flash Lineage Os ? Then how will be the battery on Lineage Os?
Hope you guys will help me out.
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1. I got 10+hrs once. Nowadays I get about 8-9hrs SOT. I mostly browse using Chrome, not pretty much, but I'm quite sure that you'll get most of it. It's depends upon the usage and yeah, battery life is almost same on MIUI & Custom ROMs.
2. There's a fix available I guess, check general section.
3. Camera is good on MIUI, but it's buggy on Custom Roms atm.
4. See point #1
sachin n said:
1. I got 10+hrs once. Nowadays I get about 8-9hrs SOT. I mostly browse using Chrome, not pretty much, but I'm quite sure that you'll get most of it. It's depends upon the usage and yeah, battery life is almost same on MIUI & Custom ROMs.
2. There's a fix available I guess, check general section.
3. Camera is good on MIUI, but it's buggy on Custom Roms atm.
4. See point #1
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Thanks for helping out me bro!
1. And there is a another question. I'm gonna buy this from Aliexpress. most sellers have chinese version with global miui. Is there massive difference between chinese version and international version? I mean hardware changes??
I live in Sri Lanka. Does it support Network bands of Sri Lanka?
2. How about 5- 100% charging time with original charger comes with box?
3. Does this support Qualcomm quickcharge?
PraSadRav said:
Thanks for helping out me bro!
1. And there is a another question. I'm gonna buy this from Aliexpress. most sellers have chinese version with global miui. Is there massive difference between chinese version and international version? I mean hardware changes??
I live in Sri Lanka. Does it support Network bands of Sri Lanka?
2. How about 5- 100% charging time with original charger comes with box?
3. Does this support Qualcomm quickcharge?
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1. AFAIK, there's not much really.
Why don't you get the device from India then? (it's possible?)
2. 3hrs for me
3. Nope, not yet.
I want to get a Kenzo, but i'm not sure if it's too late. Is custom rom development on Kenzo slowing down or coming to a complete halt? I ask because i see fewer Android 8 oreo based roms on Kenzo forum compared to Redmi note 4 SD forum. Any informed opinion will be appreciated.
dustmalik said:
I want to get a Kenzo, but i'm not sure if it's too late. Is custom rom development on Kenzo slowing down or coming to a complete halt? I ask because i see fewer Android 8 oreo based roms on Kenzo forum compared to Redmi note 4 SD forum. Any informed opinion will be appreciated.
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It's not about quantity but quality
I have a Kate (basically a Kenzo with extra LATE bands needed in Europe) and my wife has a Mido (Note 4X) and I honestly don't see a point in buying a Kenzo now.
Mido doesn't feel any slower than my phone, it has a better battery life and it has a slightly better camera.
And since Redmi Note 5 is about to go on sale, buying a Kenzo doesn't make any sense. You will be 2 generations behind
Noter2017 said:
It's not about quantity but quality
I have a Kate (basically a Kenzo with extra LATE bands needed in Europe) and my wife has a Mido (Note 4X) and I honestly don't see a point in buying a Kenzo now.
Mido doesn't feel any slower than my phone, it has a better battery life and it has a slightly better camera.
And since Redmi Note 5 is about to go on sale, buying a Kenzo doesn't make any sense. You will be 2 generations behind
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You are very right. thanks