Hi everyone
I would like to know why our camera doesn't support long shutter speed (30-60 secs), I know it's a limitation of camera2API, but isn't there a way to edit those drivers so we can make it possible? I mean, what's the difference between 1 sec shutter speed (which is aviable for the moment only with the stock camera app in night mode) and 30 seconds shutter speed? I guess the sensor would be able to behave in such a way and since Sony refuses to modify their drivers, would it be too difficult (or impossible) for a developer to activate this feature? I would pay gold for it :fingers-crossed:
I think you should talk with @mkdmc or @[email protected] users. They're developers who know about this things. I invite to you to search their camera mods to see their jobs in http://forum.xda-developers.com/crossdevice-dev/sony-themes-apps
Still
I've already seen their mods, but as far as I've seen the limitation is still there: 1 seconds... Anyway thanks for answering, will try to contact them for sure
Simo99dr said:
I've already seen their mods, but as far as I've seen the limitation is still there: 1 seconds... Anyway thanks for answering, will try to contact them for sure
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Yeah that's why i comment you, ask them for your question. I think it's not that easy to make the limitation out, but maybe it's a chance with Nougat. Hope the developers find the way to make the good z5 camera work with better functions.
Can't understand why Sony doesn't allow this and also the ability to capture RAW pictures... There is popular demand all over the internet! Maybe it's because they're selling external qx cameras... who knows
Simo99dr said:
Can't understand why Sony doesn't allow this and also the ability to capture RAW pictures... There is popular demand all over the internet! Maybe it's because they're selling external qx cameras... who knows
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Yeah it is a pity because imx 300 is a good sensor, not the best for low light but still good. It's funny because if they won't bring more manual controls for qx cameras, they at least should put Raw in those products, but no, only jpeg xD. Whatever, i really trust in developers of XDA because they're hardly working for bring us what Sony should do initially.
Its a shame as soon as you post a thread wondering why / when sony will get RAW support they remove the post instantly. I loved this phone until the camera support started to get sucky.
We need dev's who can modify the camera blobs (Which will of course take ages since they are not open source)
So, I tried to contact mkdmc and [email protected] as you @SebastianAlejandro suggested me to.
So far mkdmc didn't answer me and I doubt he will ever do so, while [email protected] did, something like a month ago, telling me that he would have talked to other developers about my request (longer shutter speed).
So I'm hoping to get an answer, but it will probably come after Christmas holidays, maybe when Nougat will be released. I'll keep you informed?
Simo99dr said:
So, I tried to contact mkdmc and [email protected] as you @SebastianAlejandro suggested me to.
So far mkdmc didn't answer me and I doubt he will ever do so, while [email protected] did, something like a month ago, telling me that he would have talked to other developers about my request (longer shutter speed).
So I'm hoping to get an answer, but it will probably come after Christmas holidays, maybe when Nougat will be released. I'll keep you informed
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Thanks for the info. I really hope that Nougat will unlock all possibilities for the camera. peter.schwake says that new updates maybe will come in this days so let's wait what news he bring to us.
SebastianAlejandro said:
Thanks for the info. I really hope that Nougat will unlock all possibilities for the camera. peter.schwake says that new updates maybe will come in this days so let's wait what news he bring to us.
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Seems like Nougat didn't give too much improvement about this so far? haha. Do you have any news?
Anyway I found this: https://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-5x/themes-apps/apk-lcamera-longer-exposure-shooting-t3516152
Wondering if it would work on our device too
If someone is still interested, I update to tell you that maybe long exposures are possible on aosp roms, with the help of "Freedcam" (defcomg developer). If I'll be able to, I will try by myself.
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Since he decided to remove it and nobody seems to have thought to mirror it, is it fair to assume it should be possible to establish the camera sources on, say, superAOSP. As far as I'm concerned revoked progress is wasted progress, so lets rob this corpse.
I'm familiar with hardware porting (though the camera is a tad complex) and I see now I was mistaken and he got the vidcam working soon, but I would still prefer the newest revision that I know somebodies got SD lol. Or is possible he updated the description and didnt upload the rom? Any info is helpful as I am still learning and can barely get my n1 port to boot lol.
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Since he decided to remove it and nobody seems to have thought to mirror it, is it fair to assume it should be possible to establish the camera sources on, say, superAOSP. As far as I'm concerned revoked progress is wasted progress, so lets rob this corpse.
I'm familiar with hardware porting (though the camera is a tad complex) and I see now I was mistaken and he got the vidcam working soon, but I would still prefer the newest revision that I know somebodies got SD lol. Or is possible he updated the description and didnt upload the rom? Any info is helpful as I am still learning and can barely get my n1 port to boot lol.
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http://www.mediafire.com/?euo3w5u2a3m8sgo
Same as title. I only use the Touchpad for Skype video.
No
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}{Alienz}{ said:
Same as title. I only use the Touchpad for Skype video.
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Like he said, no.
}{Alienz}{ said:
Same as title. I only use the Touchpad for Skype video.
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If you only use Touchpad for Skype, why dont you boot into WebOS. Skype video working perfect there.
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Yeah this is what I'm going to have to do.
That's not exactly a bad thing... webos is great. it has better battery life than I've and Skype is good on it. I don't see any problems with it.
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webOs
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Same as title. I only use the Touchpad for Skype video.
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Webos supports skype very nicely if this is all you use the touchpad for.
I have ICS on mine as well and most of the time I use webOs seems to support almost every site i go to. I have only found a few site it wont work on,Netflix windows live, Hulu.
I use ICS for netflix dont use Hulu and for windows live i just use the webOs email client and hotmail or windows live works fine.
The only thing I am trying to find is a book reader that views text files and has a bookmark or save page function in it , Ics has kemsoft and works but many times bookmark wont work .
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Same as title. I only use the Touchpad for Skype video.
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No.
And aren't there already like 10 other threads about this?
Still no.
[5 minutes later]... Still no.
Camera is most likely not going to be working for a very long time, despite HP releasing the source for the hardware (or are they still delaying it) and its the last on the priorities list for any developer. I suggest use WebOS for skype cuz that works brilliantly
I'm very confused because I read in another thread in the Question-Answer section that it would come out in two weeks?
Could anyone fact check this?
Here
Mast3rmatt said:
I'm very confused because I read in another thread in the Question-Answer section that it would come out in two weeks?
Could anyone fact check this?
Here
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The sarcasm looks strong with that one.
mkosem said:
The sarcasm looks strong with that one.
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Hmm I guess I read it in the wrong way
Thanks
Mast3rmatt said:
I'm very confused because I read in another thread in the Question-Answer section that it would come out in two weeks?
Could anyone fact check this?
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The camera will be fully functional in two weeks. If not, read this again
I really want the camera n mic to work too. Is the ics kernel or driver the problem?
hyperfire21 said:
I really want the camera n mic to work too. Is the ics kernel or driver the problem?
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This is not the place to pose this question. The place to ask would be Rootzwiki, where the dev's can be found. There you'll find changelogs and sourcecode for just about everything, and you can certainly make changes and compile it yourself.
If you honestly and seriously know what you're talking about, and think you can help, the dev team would probably be very appreciative of assistance. Meaning, if you can code that stuff, great- lend a hand. But if you're just curious, then try to research your question without nagging the devs. They work hard, and for free. You could begin researching the topic, here.
Now, in answer to your question. I could be wrong. I'm just a simple Java/C# coder who can also do a bit of web. But it was my understanding that the driver is the issue. The source code for the kernel has been released, but (also as I understood it, I could be wrong) the entire kernel was not released. The drivers for mic and cam, however, were not released (again, if I understood correctly). So there's the problem. And further, the cam and mic are not at the top of the devs' list of priorities. They are working on other stuff that they feel is more important, about which I tend to agree, unknowingly. I mean, they recently (in the last 4-6 weeks) got us hardware acceleration working (in several applications, but not all). What I mean to say, is that there are bigger fires to be put out that users don't typically see as fires. But also, the cam and mic drivers not being released is a pretty big chunk of code. AFAIK they were going to have to begin to write these from scratch, which is a pretty hefty challenge that they've chosen not to undertake at this point. That's their prerogative, and I'm not going to nit-pick about that.
Basically, if you need cam and mic, you can install CM7 (which has bugs of its own) or you can boot into webOS. Those are our options at the moment.
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Basically, if you need cam and mic, you can install CM7 (which has bugs of its own) or you can boot into webOS. Those are our options at the moment.
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Or learn software development and learn to write drivers and contribute!
Personally, I know I can't code worth a damn, so I just accept what other people write.
Hello.
So, I've got some news on new Elephone Frimware, it WILL come out, there will be some bug fixes and other stuff, but Elephone are kinda useless and don't want to give me any info on it, practically ignoring my question overall. So I would be glad, if anyone who knows anything about it can write here, what he knows about new Frimware, like what bug fixes or exact date of release, because they don't want to give me that too, they just say this, in very very bad English... "We will new Frimware soon, please wait"... So any info on anything?
So far my known bugs:
- Absolutely Camera
- Sometimes fingerprint doesn't work, somehow bugged
- Phone gets very hot
- Screen very sensitive on rain drops
- RAM management is absolute SH*T, I turn on Snapchat and messenger and I get 300MB of free ram left.... ON 4GB RAM PHONE
Thanks for help
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Hello.
So, I've got some news on new Elephone Frimware, it WILL come out, there will be some bug fixes and other stuff, but Elephone are kinda useless and don't want to give me any info on it, practically ignoring my question overall. So I would be glad, if anyone who knows anything about it can write here, what he knows about new Frimware, like what bug fixes or exact date of release, because they don't want to give me that too, they just say this, in very very bad English... "We will new Frimware soon, please wait"... So any info on anything?
So far my known bugs:
- Absolutely Camera
- Sometimes fingerprint doesn't work, somehow bugged
- Phone gets very hot
- Screen very sensitive on rain drops
- RAM management is absolute SH*T, I turn on Snapchat and messenger and I get 300MB of free ram left.... ON 4GB RAM PHONE
Thanks for help
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Nice to hear that they are going to release Oreo. That means it's better to stay stock and don't remove adups package or root the phone right? By the way updating the phone to a new OS will keep the files and installed apps?
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Nice to hear that they are going to release Oreo. That means it's better to stay stock and don't remove adups package or root the phone right? By the way updating the phone to a new OS will keep the files and installed apps?
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I will stay with stock and see how new update will look like, if it's gonna be okey, okey, but if it's gonna be **** like now, I will switch to other custom ROM (I saw one here, it sounds pretty good, can't remember the name right now) and yes, well probably, like other phone updates, probably this should keep files and apps on it after update, but make a backup of pictures and stuff just in case.... It's Elephone.... There is a reason why they are not on worldwide market and Samsung is....
Rooting your phone doens't matter... You can root it, just don't install any custom ROMs...
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I will stay with stock and see how new update will look like, if it's gonna be okey, okey, but if it's gonna be **** like now, I will switch to other custom ROM (I saw one here, it sounds pretty good, can't remember the name right now) and yes, well probably, like other phone updates, probably this should keep files and apps on it after update, but make a backup of pictures and stuff just in case.... It's Elephone.... There is a reason why they are not on worldwide market and Samsung is....
Rooting your phone doens't matter... You can root it, just don't install any custom ROMs...
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Do we have a timetable or the release is going to be like "boom" ?
You mean Eragon rom, I'm not sure if the most people decide to use Eragon instead of stock because it has some issues too.
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Do we have a timetable or the release is going to be like "boom" ?
You mean Eragon rom, I'm not sure if the most people decide to use Eragon instead of stock because it has some issues too.
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No, nothing... They don't want to give me any info, like I said, just bad English response "We will out soon"... Yeah Eragon right... Yeah, but you must agree, that Eragon has less issues, unlike stock... MOST IMPORTANT... RAM management on stock is sh*t
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No, nothing... They don't want to give me any info, like I said, just bad English response "We will out soon"... Yeah Eragon right... Yeah, but you must agree, that Eragon has less issues, unlike stock... MOST IMPORTANT... RAM management on stock is sh*t
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True dat. But I can accept it as it is for now. Will be waiting for Oreo update. Hope it's not an endless waiting... zzzz
I don't believe in updates anymore !
They release new devices but do not give support for existing models.
Never buy Elephone again.
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I don't believe in updates anymore !
They release new devices but do not give support for existing models.
Never buy Elephone again.
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As much as they told me, there supposed to be an update... I'm done with this Chinese useless sh*t too, just keep fuc*ing trying to make their way out of this sh*t situation
MatoXD said:
Hello.
So, I've got some news on new Elephone Frimware, it WILL come out, there will be some bug fixes and other stuff, but Elephone are kinda useless and don't want to give me any info on it, practically ignoring my question overall. So I would be glad, if anyone who knows anything about it can write here, what he knows about new Frimware, like what bug fixes or exact date of release, because they don't want to give me that too, they just say this, in very very bad English... "We will new Frimware soon, please wait"... So any info on anything?
So far my known bugs:
- Absolutely Camera
- Sometimes fingerprint doesn't work, somehow bugged
- Phone gets very hot
- Screen very sensitive on rain drops
- RAM management is absolute SH*T, I turn on Snapchat and messenger and I get 300MB of free ram left.... ON 4GB RAM PHONE
Thanks for help
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Hello,
In Times of Fake News:
What's your source for that?
Beta
No 8.0 Update for Elephone S8 - Official
"Dear customer,
Please notice that S8 can be updated with a week, but it can't be available for Oreo.
Best Regards,
Elephone Team"
From my understanding this phone will NOT receive the Android 8.0 Oreo update. Hoping for some more work software wise through custom roms and such, just ordered one based off the specs and build quality for the price.
Original Question: "So the Elephone S8 will NOT be receiving the Android 8.0 Oreo update? Also, is anything being done about the known bugs?"
"Dear customer,
S8 can be updated with a week to fix those bugs, and we believe everything will be better after that.
Best Regards,
Elephone Team"
Well, that blows.
FancyPantsu said:
"Dear customer,
Please notice that S8 can be updated with a week, but it can't be available for Oreo.
Best Regards,
Elephone Team"
From my understanding this phone will NOT receive the Android 8.0 Oreo update. Hoping for some more work software wise through custom roms and such, just ordered one based off the specs and build quality for the price.
Original Question: "So the Elephone S8 will NOT be receiving the Android 8.0 Oreo update? Also, is anything being done about the known bugs?"
"Dear customer,
S8 can be updated with a week to fix those bugs, and we believe everything will be better after that.
Best Regards,
Elephone Team"
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Yeah it does.. But supposedly an update for bug fixes including camera within the next week.. we'll see huh?! I'm constantly thinking about this purchase, it's still processing, $255 ish with expedited shipping (like $25 from their store) lol. Lots of controversy with this phone. I hope everyone is aware of the network availability and price point when they're buying it. I will base my review on other aspects mainly.
I have adups fota package deleted. Is there a chance for me to get the new update this week without wiping my device to factory settings?
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I have adups fota package deleted. Is there a chance for me to get the new update this week without wiping my device to factory settings?
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I'd say give the update a shot, worse case is it doesn't install? But you shouldn't have to wipe.
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I'd say give the update a shot, worse case is it doesn't install? But you shouldn't have to wipe.
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I'm going to wait. But since I don't have wireless update Manager what action can I make..?
I sent an email to them and this what they responded
Charles Ed said:
I sent an email to them and this what they responded
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The only thing we can do is wait...
and hope it will be worth it. :good:
Weeks become months and months become years.
Nice tip on improving the autofocus speed in that last one. Though it wasn't worrying me, ISO 200 seems, for want of a better word, snappy.
Good news, if you go to Elephone store for the S8 there is a QnA section. A customer asks if there will be a Oreo update and Elephone confirms Oreo comes out on May!
You can confirm it by yourself!
I don't see such a response there - just them saying that they'll release it when they get it. But maybe I'm missing it -
can you please post link Steverwray?
steverway said:
Good news, if you go to Elephone store for the S8 there is a QnA section. A customer asks if there will be a Oreo update and Elephone confirms Oreo comes out on May!
You can confirm it by yourself!
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hii, I first want to apologize for my bad english, it isn't my native language. secondly i wanted to ask if anybody here knows if lineageos or anything like these custom (nearly stock) roms is going to be available for the oppo find x and how long it would take before they will be released. I'm considering buying a OPX and i am pretty new to buying chinese phones, I heard a lot of complaints about not getting a notification of whatsapp or anything like this, I really don't like the idea that I would have to open whatsapp every time to see if i got a notification or not.
thanks for your help.
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hii, I first want to apologize for my bad english, it isn't my native language. secondly i wanted to ask if anybody here knows if lineageos or anything like these custom (nearly stock) roms is going to be available for the oppo find x and how long it would take before they will be released. I'm considering buying a OPX and i am pretty new to buying chinese phones, I heard a lot of complaints about not getting a notification of whatsapp or anything like this, I really don't like the idea that I would have to open whatsapp every time to see if i got a notification or not.
thanks for your help.
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No apologies needed,make yourself at home @maikonor ........... :good:
While I can't speak regarding Whatsapp,you can get timely notifications for email/other SMS/MMS messaging apps,but,a lot of digging around in the settings is involved. Nothing beyond most users expertise,it's just a lot of redundancy & repitition,but,once set-up,my notifications come through just fine.
As for development,it's not unheard of on Oppo devices,but,is it possible with this phone ? IDK if the current firmware/software will support it.
If the promise of root/ROMs is a must,it's probably gonna be a while before development takes grip,if it ever does.
I'm hoping once the phone becomes available in more markets (international release/ROM),we'll begin to see some hint of what the future holds.
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No apologies needed,make yourself at home @maikonor ........... :good:
While I can't speak regarding Whatsapp,you can get timely notifications for email/other SMS/MMS messaging apps,but,a lot of digging around in the settings is involved. Nothing beyond most users expertise,it's just a lot of redundancy & repitition,but,once set-up,my notifications come through just fine.
As for development,it's not unheard of on Oppo devices,but,is it possible with this phone ? IDK if the current firmware/software will support it.
If the promise of root/ROMs is a must,it's probably gonna be a while before development takes grip,if it ever does.
I'm hoping once the phone becomes available in more markets (international release/ROM),we'll begin to see some hint of what the future holds.
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thanks for your reply, root/custom ROM is not a must for me if, I (in the netherlands) at least can change my home launcher.
Hey buddy, This is my second OPPO variant. From my previous experience on R11P, it was pretty nasty. Nothing was released from OPPO to support unlocking or Root the device. However, with Find X, OPPO has launched globally. It might change its perspectives regarding playing around with the systems. who knows. I hope they do, I love flashing ROMs, lolz!
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Hey buddy, This is my second OPPO variant. From my previous experience on R11P, it was pretty nasty. Nothing was released from OPPO to support unlocking or Root the device. However, with Find X, OPPO has launched globally. It might change its perspectives regarding playing around with the systems. who knows. I hope they do, I love flashing ROMs, lolz!
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Thanks for your reply, I hope they do change perspective and otherwise I will buy an oneplus 6.
The Find 7 was unlocked and they provided a rudimentary support for unlocking and rooting, this is the last vairiant that I'm aware of that saw wide release. Realistically that's all we need to obtain root, which is pretty easy via magisk. The Chinese launcher restrictions wont exist on the international handsets, those are for the Chinese market only and you'll be able to use the phone pretty much as normal in the Android world. It's all about whether or not the bootloader is unlocked. If yes we should be able to get root ourselves without special skills. From there it's just a matter of whether anyone with skills decides to pick up the phone and develop for it and then you've got TWRP and possibly a rom or two to play with.
I hope Oppo could release international version of the Find X rom
The chinese rom is pretty much unusable in North America
If it's like OPPO's other phones from the last few years, it will have a locked bootloader with fastboot removed and they won't release any kernel source.
Chinese OPPO fans tell you，It is very hard to request a root access or source code from OPPO，or just wait a loooong time:crying:，OPPO has always been like this，and sorry about my bad English，i want say more but i do not known how to
Explain in eglish(+_+)
Hard to do in China, there are rules there prohibiting that very thing and even when those don't apply Chinese companies are rightfully afraid to do something their dictator doesn't want because their executives would like to remain among the living. Chinese leaders are pragmatists however who enjoy the riches they deny the masses which means their products need to sell on a global market so they can keep enjoying all the things their populace is denied. The last product Oppo released in the world market was bootloader unlocked and they provided support for rooting. This does not mean the same will happen now but have no doubt they are well aware that their practices with Chinese phones will kill any hope at all of selling in the international market. Something to think about; One+ is owned by Oppo. They are unlocked and fully supported.
Today XDA's Aamir Siddiqui posted an Article on how Poco, even though they promised to do so, still haven't released the Kernel Source for our Poco X3 yet.
So far the Developers are doing an amazing Job in providing us Users with already very well working Custom ROM Options.
But, of course, complete sources, as promised, would be very welcome.
A couple of guys have already tweeted at Poco quoting the following Article.
Maybe we could boost that message a little, to speed up that process to get the Sources.
Of course I don't really mean that we should annoy the shi* out of them or be rude, but maybe a little reminder, from their users, might help.
Tweet: https://twitter.com/xdadevelopers/status/1327165355979059200
I for one, fully agree. Sadly, though, I'm not on Twitter. :good:
Another appropriate venue for this gentle pressure would be the official forum at https://c.mi.com/forum-2861-1.html.
Can you document other Twitter posts here? They would come handy as templates and indicators...
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Gizchina now posted an article about it as well.
https://www.gizchina.com/2020/11/13...ot-available-despite-launch-days-promise/amp/
Do you guys really believed that a company that makes you wait one week to unlock the bootloader will give you the kernel source right away?
I don't go by what I believe, I go by what they said.
That being said. No, I don't believe that.
Sill, it doesn't hurt to ask and remind them again. Worst case, nothing happens, best case, it helped a little.
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Do you guys really believed that a company that makes you wait one week to unlock the bootloader will give you the kernel source right away?
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They did so before, dunno what's keeping them from doing it now.
Maybe because of Dynamic Partitions?
Dynamic Partitions
Ezzady said:
Maybe because of Dynamic Partitions?
Dynamic Partitions
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Why is dynamic partitions stopping them from sharing source?
Google shared the kernel source for pixel 4a and 5 already
Kernel released, guys.
https://github.com/MiCode/Xiaomi_Kernel_OpenSource/tree/surya-q-oss
Looks like we have annoyed them enough and they finally released it, thank god
Maybe. ?
Not sure if there is a correlation, but I'm sure it definitely didn't hurt. I'm just glad we have them now.