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I have been having this problem pretty much since day 1, I've also searched the Nokia Support Discussions and it seems quite a lot of people are experiencing this. I was actually surprised that my Go-To forum here at XDA doesn't have a thread on it.
My Black Lumia 920 (EE, Phones4U, Unlocked) reboots on average about 5 times a day. Yesterday was probably the worst yet with roughly 8 reboots. That may have been more noticeable to me because I used a SIM which requires a pin though.
What I've noticed:
-The device is roughly 10 days old.
-It has been rebooting an average of 5-8 times a day
-It mostly reboots when idle (so when I'm not using it)
-I've had it reboot only twice while in use when making a call
-I've had it reboot only once when playing music.
-I've only ever noticed it rebooting when it is face up
-Rebooting happens regardless of the SIM (although I have not used it without a SIM at all) (Used both a micro SIM and a SIM cut down to size, used the original carrier SIM and other SIM, no difference to rebooting behaviour)
-I only turn on the radios I need when I need them, so 2G active 100%, 3G/4G, WiFi, Bluetooth, GPS, NFC off for 70% of the time.
-It is not due to battery drain as I usually have about 40% battery at the end of the day.
This has been my experience with the rebooting problem. The figures and estimates I'm giving are not over stating and I've tried giving as much detail so as to try and provide useful information for a solution.
Has anyone else been having this problem?
Has anyone found a working solution?
Has anyone heard or read anything concerning a fix for this?
nope - blue one on AT&T
I'd look at your installed apps, apps enabled to run in the background, etc. It should not be rebooting at all.
I have seen some posts like yours on the internets, but its not a "common" as in most 920s do it problem. Which leads me to think its some issue with an app or apps installed on some phones.
Possible solution
Hi kyrirhcp
I had a similar problem. I reset the phone which bricked it and then used this tutorial to un-brick it:
http://forums.wpcentral.com/nokia-l...after-reset-flash-process-defined-inside.html
The only difference is that I downloaded the "Nokia Data Package Manager" (not sure where from but I'm sure you can find it). This software allows you to download the firmware files directly into the correct folder. You could also look at this tutorial:
http://aydon.wordpress.com/2012/11/29/how-to-flash-your-lumia-920english/
The ROM you want is the EE specific one. It even specifies the colour of the phone. The version number is: 1232.2110.1244.3011
If you reset the device and it does not brick (i.e. freeze up on reformat) then the problem is solved and you don't need to worry. If it bricks (which it probably will) then you need to flash to recover the phone.
God bless
andrew-in-woking
Hi Andrew, thanks for your suggestions but I'm avoiding it like the plague if I'm honest. Resetting my phone and risking a brick, even with your added fix tutorial really doesn't seem worth it. Also I'm assuming that the problem you PM'd me with regarding the loss of some functionality is a result of the fix you suggest. I'm not yet willing or ready to f with my device the same way as I did with my SGNote, even more so since developers haven't yet gotten the experience they have with android. Anyway, i seem to have perhaps solved the problem at least for my device. I changed the regional settings for a completely unrelated matter and I have not since had a single reset or the accompanying massive battery drain. It's now been 3 days. The only other change was that I removed tunein radio an reinstalled it. So it seems that my problem has been solved (fingers crossed, knock on wood, ftou ftou ftou, wearing an evil eye). I hope this helps others with their problems and makes this amazing device useable to those that had this problem.
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Try removing Whatsapp if you've got that installed.
I have had a lot of the same problems. My phone locks up a few times per day. This is the 2nd Lumia 920 I've had. After getting the second with the same problem, I decided to wait for the Portico update that was supposed to address random restarts.
Since then, I've been communicating with Nokia and Windows Phone support on twitter. All they suggest is uninstalling apps, disabling radios, contacting individual developers, and resetting your phone.
I have a hard time wrapping my mind around that. How is it possible for a user level application to take down the whole operating system/firmware?? There are plenty of crappy apps on the Windows Phone Store, I don't think it should be up to me to figure out which is destroying my experience.
I used to root/hack all my old Windows Mobile phones/android phones. When it locked up, it really was up to me to fix it and figure it out!! I chose Windows Phone since it had the locked ecosystem similar to Apple. While that may not appeal to everyone, I have a very busy life and I don't want to spend more time screwing with my phone. It just needs to work! This is my 3rd Windows phone and it's been the worst so far.
I have been very happy with my Nexus 9. I bought it at Best Buy the first day it came out. I just returned from a holiday trip, and I kept thinking what a great
traveling device I had, so compact, yet so nice to use, so much better than the laptop I used to carry. I liked the screen, the aspect ratio, the performance.
Well, as soon as I returned, I was surfing Firefox and the screen went all crazy with an abstract pattern and I could only reboot with the power button.
Since then, this has started to happen repeatedly when my battery level drops below about 40%. The screen is white or white with some sort of geometric pattern
and the device is completely frozen. This morning I rebooted, played with it a few more minutes and it happened again.
I have found a few mentions of similar problems online and none of them were fixed by a software reset. Of course, I will do that, but I'm convinced this is not going to help.
So I've had my tablet for a few months beyond the year warranty. And I paid full original price. And I can live with it and keep the battery above 40%, assuming things don't
degrade, but of course, they usually do. Or I can try to work with HTC to pay for an expensive repair (motherboard replacement was said to work). Or I can write it off
and replace it.
I like Android. I am thinking the Pixel C would even be a step up. But I have some big concerns. My first Nexus 7 (2012) failed after warranty was up. Now my Nexus 9 is failing
very soon after warranty is up. I really hate the Apple way of doing things, but I do know that if I get an iPad, I won't have any problems getting it fixed, plus I think it would
be much more mature than a new Google tablet that has sold to a handful of Android enthusiasts.
So I'm just disappointed. With 20/20 hindsight, I should have gotten Best Buy's extended warranty, but that's life. Anyway, I would be grateful for any suggestions. Thank you.
Monday update: For those who may be interested. I contacted HTC customer service and they told me that my warranty expires in 5 days. So I am sending it back under warranty.
As I tried to back up data prior to wiping it clean, I discovered that the Nexus 9 mounts on my Windows 7 computer as it always did, but there is no longer a file system that shows up. I had to back up my data over wifi
using FTP. So this is a very clear and repeatable problem, which means the HTC people will not have to try to reproduce an intermittent freeze up.
Anyway, it will go back tomorrow and I hope for the best.
Hey,
I have the same issue with my tablet, was it fixed?
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As I tried to back up data prior to wiping it clean, I discovered that the Nexus 9 mounts on my Windows 7 computer as it always did, but there is no longer a file system that shows up. I had to back up my data over wifi
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There is an extra step involved from Marshmallow deices to see the filesystem: - http://www.androidcentral.com/inside-marshmallow-usb-connection-options
Thanks corkiejp I did figure this out. I was so stressed backing up all my files before sending it back I sort of freaked out when the file system was gone. But yes, it is just another step to get it back.
In response to "was it fixed?" I am not yet sure. I called HTC and they called it a software problem and reinstalled the OS. I told the guy I was sure this would not fix it (based primarily on other peoples' reports online) and he "noted" my irritation, but that was the extent of their fix.
So I got all my apps installed from the image (very convenient) which took a few hours, then it gave me 3 system updates and now I'm back to where I started. I have let it run down to 25% battery a few times
and there has been no failure so far.
I do have a gut feeling that this was actually not a software problem and it will show up again. At least I will be able to push for warranty service if that happens.
I sure do love this tablet. I was using my 2013 Nexus 7 while it was gone. I was crazy about the Nexus 7 as my first tablet in 2012, but the Nexus 9 makes it seem quite antiquated and the bigger screen is much better for everything I use it for. If the Nexus 9 does fail again, I'll send it back, but I was quite serious about trying an ipad. I will need to jailbreak it to get it anywhere near a product I can use, but that seems to be a breeze. But anyway, Nexus 9 is working great at the moment.
Latest update. So for about 3 weeks I used my Nexus 9 and charged it whenever it got down below about 30% battery and no problems. So I thought OK maybe this was a software problem after all and it was fixed.
However, yesterday, it froze on white screen at 39% battery. Clearly this is not fixed. I will wait until I see this happen once or twice more, then contact HTC and tell them I need to claim warranty service even though I am
now out of warranty, since their first fix under warranty did not work. Then I will see if they will fix it under warranty and most importantly, whether or not they just reinstall software again and call it fixed.
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Latest update. So for about 3 weeks I used my Nexus 9 and charged it whenever it got down below about 30% battery and no problems. So I thought OK maybe this was a software problem after all and it was fixed.
However, yesterday, it froze on white screen at 39% battery. Clearly this is not fixed. I will wait until I see this happen once or twice more, then contact HTC and tell them I need to claim warranty service even though I am
now out of warranty, since their first fix under warranty did not work. Then I will see if they will fix it under warranty and most importantly, whether or not they just reinstall software again and call it fixed.
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This happened to my first N9 after 4 months. They k ow it's not a software problem. It's ridiculous that they present they've never seen this issue everytime someone reports it. I demanded replacement for mine. I tried flashing a factory image myself before that and it changed nothing.
You are not alone - my N9 fails below battery 60% https://youtu.be/-ISHFFZVJVw and http://goo.gl/1i50x4
Good day everybody i was going to grab an lg v10 yesterday but once i read about the boot loop issue i stepped back and now i cant really decide if this is a serious major issue that affected a large sum of devices or just few unlucky ones .. here i have no warranty so ill be burned if i got hit by one of those defected units .. also there aint any info about if there was a specific batch thats was defected or a production date thats related to the issue .. so is this a serious issue to be considered like in the g4 or it was just few defected units ? How serious is it ? Is it a pandemic ? I really wish its not as its been weeks im comparing and i finally settled fully on the v10 as it seems the complete package ..
There have been a couple of threads lately with this question. So I can only repeat what I wrote there.
I have a V10 (H960A) for a couple of months now and never had any bootloops. I'm very happy with this phone. It's fast and reliable, only the battery could have larger capacity.
Same here. I m using H901 (oct 2015 manufacturing) and so far it is working fine without any issue.
When you search on google the amounts of people complaining about this issue is seriously scary .. also there aint any pattern .. people from all over the world and from different regions are reporting .. the one common thing is that it does not show up early most people reported it after few months of usage ...
This thread alone is terryfing ..
https://m.reddit.com/r/lgv10/comments/4yao1s/v10_bootloop_please_report_in_this_sticky_thread/
Its a pandemic i think so .. this is definitely not a bad luck .. this is a clear manufacturing defect ...
Mine bootlooped...I've only had my replacement for a couple weeks. I think the problem is pretty widespread.
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Thanks for opening my eyes ... I think now im gonna head towards the 6p although i really wanted the v10 because of the dac but its just too much risk ..
Lg didnt even care to achnowleadge such defect which only causes more disrespect from my side at least ... Samsung screwed up but they payed for it bravely ... Lg is no longer a trusted manufacturer for me ...
I've had mine 10 months and no boot loop issue. People with negative results tend to out represent the ones with no problems.
For example, not many people would come here to say how great their phone is but many would come here with compliants and issues because that is generally what this forum deals with.
I think the issue is overblown myself.
Further I use battery drainers which makes the phone pretty hot and I haven't run into an issue.
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No, I love the V10 but this is a real issue. I think your phone is just a little older than mine was but not much. It hasn't happened yet but it still may...
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I'm sure most have read many of the horrible bootloop stories about the v10 by now but I want to still try & save anyone out there from possibly getting this horrible phone! My bf & I both got the LGv10 & we have both had the dreaded bootloop. So anyone that has a v10 better have all of their information backed up!!! It comes out of no where without any type of warning at all & after it goes into bootloop there is no return. I have read multiple threads on freezing & baking the motherboard of the phone to revive it long enough to backup data so i will be testing these methods over the weekend & i am going to cry myself a river if i can't revive it long enough to backup my pictures :crying:
Before the bootloop issue, i enjoyed everything about the phone except for the 2 hour battery life which kind of killed all positive features of the phone as this was a huge struggle the entire year i owned the v10. The battery seemed fine for maybe 3 months into use, but then took a cliff dive & wouldn't hold a charge worth a crap from there on after. It also would get hot during phone calls & while on the charger. It was practically impossible to not use this phone while on the charger sometimes because it's life span was so short. Phone games rapidly drained battery & videos as well. The screen started freezing up semi-often where the screen had to be turned off for a minute & then back on to work again & sometimes it had to be powered off completely to undo this. I wish i could speak better of this phone but nope, i can't. I would understand if these issues had started happening after 2 years of owning the device but after a few months, there is no excuse coming from someone who babied their phone & never dropped it. I hope this helps some people
Hey folks,
I've been having few issues with my phone since i bought it brand new the day it released in Germany (I am not german however, haha) - sometimes it would be slow, it would overheat and apps would be crashing because of that.
In november last year, I decided to try and solve that headache (honestly not worthy of the premium price I paid for it when it was new) by unlocking the bootloader and flashing a different kernel (not sure which one now). All seemed well for a few days, but them the fingerprint scanner stopped working (hardware not found), camera would freeze the phone for about a minute before restarting the whole UI, the battery would drain at a stupidly high rate (1 hour screen on time would leave me with 50 % battery in the afternoon, and I am not even doing anything system heavy) and the bluetooth was as buggy as before (the notorious terrible range of it). :crying:
So i figured the kernel was at fault and decided to flash stock firmware from Sony. I tried 3 different stock firmwares and oh my god, It's still there. I think unlocking the bootloader has inflicted all this. Does anyone have any suggestions as to what I could do to get rid of atleast the fingerprint and camera problems? I am almost certain I will replace the phone soon for something else, but for the sake of trying to fix what was wrong from the factory and for the fact I might want to sell the phone, I want to make it work. I don't think returning it to the store for a replacement would work, since I managed to crack the back glass at one point last year and they'll just refuse it for mechanical damage ...
Thanks for any suggestions. Phone's not rooted, I could not figure out a reasonable way on how to do it, I am not very skilled in this regard, even though I had rooted my 2 previous Nexus phones (speaking of which, I miss my Nexus 4, but no 4G and bad battery made me change to Sony).
Aaaaanyway, I updated to 7.0 Nougat from one of our nation's carriers and so far so good. Will keep you posted, especially if things go south again. :cyclops:
Hi all,
Received my 1 iii yesterday, spent several hours setting it up, tweaking, testing, transferring files--and love it. Been an LG V-series user for the last six years, but with LG bowing out and having moved toward radiused corners, rounded glass, notches, etc. anyway--I'm very glad Sony is still out there making sane, non-compromised phones with basic features like microSD, no hole punch, and headphone jacks that are now treated as "niche" or "enthusiast".
BUT, unfortunately, having a very odd problem, and can't find any examples of anyone else having the issue... but it basically makes the phone unusable.
Literally any time the screen turns off--whether via pressing the power button, or via an inactiivty screen time out--the phone either shuts down, or restarts.
I've done a factory reset several times, tested it with fully restored apps/settings/personal data/etc., and totally un-restored, makes no difference--the issue always happens. So it's not the fault of any setting I altered, app I installed or disabled, etc.
I remember the first time I booted up the phone--but none of the factory reset times since then--that it said something about some setting being on to prevent battery wear from the phone being accidentally turned on during shipping. So maybe there's some bizarre setting somewhere that auto-shuts-down the phone when the screen turns off? Otherwise I'm at a total loss...
Thanks in advance for any help!!
Here is one of two reviews from Amazon about this phone:
"Got in the infinity reboot issue right out of the box...a $1200+ phone, very disappointed .
Got it today on the release. Then start setup and update. Not even until all set up finished, it restarted first time. Then again in just about 15mins. Overall been through restart 12 times. Try hard reset and all other methods, not helping. Return....."
So, unless you are the one who left this review...you are not alone! This type of stuff makes me so disappointed!
Sounds like the reviewer on Amazon was having a different problem. Mine stays on perfectly fine as long as one is interacting with it--only shuts down/restarts if the screen turns off.
Given the variety of software states in which the problem occurs--vlank setup, full set-up, safe mode--seems like a rare hardware issue. As long as it can be replaced with a correctly functioning unit quickly, it's still the phone I want...
If not, I guess I ride out my LG V50 till it dies, and then quit using smart phones...
Having to ship it in for warranty repair. Seems like almost certainly a hardware problem--sounds like I "won" the lemon lottery. A bummer, but not an indictment of the phone generally.
But I'm still really digging the phone--when it works. Did a video A/B with my LG V50, and while it didn't strike me as miles better--it definitely was when full-screen. Not having to look at rounded corners and a notch is worth a lot to me. With font and display set to smallest settings, *love* the look and roominess of the screen.
I agree with not wanting notches, or punch holes...this is why I am interested in this phone...PLUS I truly miss having a notification LED. However, so far the reviews from end users/owners...not the "pro" reviewers on YouTube..is leaning towards the negative! My last three phones have been from OnePlus. Currently on the 8T. I know many have started to slam OnePlus for their practice of late patches and higher prices...but I have not had even ONE problem with any of the OnePlus phones I've had! They just work. I've had the 6, 7-Pro, and now the 8T. There's nothing out there that even interests me any longer that doesn't overheat, or freeze, or have unnecessary dedicated assistant buttons??? Disgusted with them all. I just might have to take a harder look at Apple!!!!
Outside of what appears to be a truly random and uncommon hardware issue that's affecting mine per this thread--I actually really loved the 1 mk iii so far.
I haven't had overheating issues, camera seemed excellent, loved the hardware build quality, *LOVE* having a proper screen again (including no notches, aspect ratio, and tons of room w/ fonts and appearance set to smallest). I will never buy a phone that doesn't have microSD support, and access on this phone is awesome (no tool needed).
I wouldn't be too quick to write it off--especially not for the likes of Apple, who provide a hugely compromised, feature-removing, closed-ecosystem product at an inflated price for what you get.
Keep in mind--it's the internet, so you're going to far disproportionatly have people needing to discuss problems. Folks for whom nothing goes wrong--for any product--won't tend to seek out places like this to say so. So I wouldn't let a really small sample of issues unduly color your view...
Hi I have the exact same issue. Received mine on the 24th and transferred everything over from Oppo find X2 pro. Thought it was me at first when trying to wake but it rebooted. All fine until used in car QI base. After 20 minute drive picked it up and tried to wake only for the same thing to happen. Did this several times yesterday and this morning both on and off charge and while cool to touch. Very disappointing as expected more for something that cost nearly £1200! Like the phone a lot and prefer it over the Oppo but cannot find a way around this. A new 256k micro SD card also being used so have tried without this, without the EE sim and factory reset but still it happens. It's unusable as is so will have to be replaced, unless any suggestions?
Have had a few good Android phones from Huawei P20 pro, Mate 20X to current Oppo in recent times but never had an issue like this.
Having to swap back to the Oppo is very time consuming and exasperating!
Shame as this is a stunningly good phone.
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Hi I have the exact same issue. Received mine on the 24th and transferred everything over from Oppo find X2 pro. Thought it was me at first when trying to wake but it rebooted. All fine until used in car QI base. After 20 minute drive picked it up and tried to wake only for the same thing to happen. Did this several times yesterday and this morning both on and off charge and while cool to touch. Very disappointing as expected more for something that cost nearly £1200! Like the phone a lot and prefer it over the Oppo but cannot find a way around this. A new 256k micro SD card also being used so have tried without this, without the EE sim and factory reset but still it happens. It's unusable as is so will have to be replaced, unless any suggestions?
Have had a few good Android phones from Huawei P20 pro, Mate 20X to current Oppo in recent times but never had an issue like this.
Having to swap back to the Oppo is very time consuming and exasperating!
Shame as this is a stunningly good phone.
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Forgot to say there are others on here with similar issue, under random reboot thread.
After sending in for "repair" and receiving it back with no improvement (but "repaired"), Sony has finally agreed I'm due a replacement unit. Have shipped my first unit off, due to arrive to them next Wednesday. Will hopefully receive a properly-functioning replacement soon thereafter... Agree that, if the phone didn't have this bizarre issue, it would be great--very close to what I want in a phone (versus the myriad options out there that don't offer what I want, and insist on absurd design choices I detest).
So, we'll see. Certainly frustrating to have an issue like this on a phone that costs more than plenty of computers...
(To be clear, I had the issue literally every time, from the beginning, regardless of what I had/hadn't set up, installed, sim card/no sim card, micro SD/no micro SD, etc.).
I have Xperia™1 III but the phone is really stable for me, no random reboot. I have only heating issue. Xperia™ XZ2 Premium hasn't heat like this phone. My phone is Hong Kong device
Most likely not what caused your issue...but...it is NOT a good idea to allow any backup to install all your previous apps from an "old" phone to a new one. I know it can be a major pain and very time consuming to install everything from scratch when setting up a new phone...however...when you allow a backup to flow freely onto a new phone you are allowing all the junk to come back also! It's up to you, but I always install everything from scratch and it may not be related but...I have owned many, many phones and NEVER had all the problems that so many have all across the board. Am I just lucky, or is it because I have so much experience with computers and know how to set things up properly? YMMV
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Most likely not what caused your issue...but...it is NOT a good idea to allow any backup to install all your previous apps from an "old" phone to a new one. I know it can be a major pain and very time consuming to install everything from scratch when setting up a new phone...however...when you allow a backup to flow freely onto a new phone you are allowing all the junk to come back also! It's up to you, but I always install everything from scratch and it may not be related but...I have owned many, many phones and NEVER had all the problems that so many have all across the board. Am I just lucky, or is it because I have so much experience with computers and know how to set things up properly? YMMV
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I think you have been lucky
Like you I have never had a problem and been in IT since the early 80's but this isn't something that's has been moved over. Sadly, the phone behaves the same wether out of the box or fully migrated. In the PC world I saw something similar with overheating and poorly cooled AMD processors in the 90's and am wondering if this is a heat related component batch issue?
Sony need to get a grip on this sharpish or they will be looking at refunds, which is never good.
The reboots are caused by the fingerprint reader. My new phone would bootloop while fast charging if my one and only configuration after a factory reset was setting a fingerprint.
DO NOT SEND IT IN FOR A WARRANTY REPAIR - - IT WILL GET WORSE
Get a refund.
First, Sony sent it to SBE with FedEx Ground, which currently takes about 2 weeks.
Second, SBE returned it bricked and voided my warranty. They said I flashed it but I had sent it in new and unmodified. I didn't even think they returned my own phone back because it had a UK/EU label and destroyed firmware. Sony Support would no longer help me because I was no longer a customer. SBE insisted I was a firmware flasher that deserved nothing. I ran EMMA and it showed my phone IMEI, locked bootloader, and stock firmware.
I finally found somebody on Sony Support who would give me an RMA. Maybe it was their mistake, but I wasted no time shipping it back. I'm doing a credit card charge reversal if I get any more crap from Sony/SBE.
I have spoken to Sony UK tech support and they have confirmed there is a reboot issue with some1iii's. Apparently, second line technical support have identified the issue (software) and there will be a revision released to cure this. When pressed, they couldn't give me a date for this and were a little vague. I was advised to return to my supplier for a refund.
Not good on a phone costing £1200 and surprised they haven't got their act together more quickly. They seem to be struggling getting phones shipped presently and my supplier has confirmed a 14 day wait if I want to re-order. I don't know if this is just poor advanced planning by Sony UK or if this is a Sony global problem trying to get hold of the components for manufacture.
Despite all the issues, this phone still ticks all the boxes for me so have decided to wait for the dust to settle!
Good to know there's some awareness now on Sony's part of this issue, and a plan yo resolve it via software (?). If the second unit I get has the same issue, I guess I'll wait a bit for that aoftware resolution--but deeply hoping I won't have the issue again.
I will say, I believe I tested not registering any fingerprints on at least one of the numerous factory resets I tried, and I believe the issue still occurred--had seen threads of similar issues stemming from the fingerprint reader on other manufacturer's phones, so tried to rule it out...
The original phone I got back from SBE wasn't bricked, it just wasn't in any way improved. Fortunately Sony didn't make any weird claims that I'd done anything wrong (I wouldn't know how to mess with "rooting" or whatever--no interest/need to). It was delivered to Sonyin San Diego by FedEx today--so hoping my replacement unit ships in the next day or two...
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Despite all the issues, this phone still ticks all the boxes for me so have decided to wait for the dust to settle!
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Agreed. With LG gone, I really want the Xperia 1 iii to pan out--only phone that has microSD, no notches/currves/radiused corners, a hogh-res screen, and a headphone jack. If I can't get one to work properly, I'll probably just buy another LG V50, second-hand.