I've had my nexus 6p for just over a year now, never rooted and always kept up to date and currently running N4F26I. Recently I discovered the app AccuBattery which estimates the current capacity of the battery as it is charged (I don't know how accurate this is, as of writing it is based off of 88 charging sessions. Also to note that according to the app I average about 2 wear cycles per day). The estimated capacity this reports is approximately 2,300 mAh or roughly 68% of the originally designed capacity. My question is this: for having the device just over a year, is that considered a reasonable loss in capacity? Anyone else that has had the device for a similar period of time have any comments?
Further, is it unreasonable to expect the Nexus Protect program to replace the battery whether free or with a deductible?
Have you tried looking at battery degradation with a previous phone or looked at the average rate?
Not saying that it is, it could be average and considered wear and tear from the manufacturer's standpoint. Wouldn't hurt to call and ask if you find out it's significantly worse than expected.
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I've had my nexus 6p for just over a year now, never rooted and always kept up to date and currently running N4F26I. Recently I discovered the app AccuBattery which estimates the current capacity of the battery as it is charged (I don't know how accurate this is, as of writing it is based off of 88 charging sessions. Also to note that according to the app I average about 2 wear cycles per day). The estimated capacity this reports is approximately 2,300 mAh or roughly 68% of the originally designed capacity. My question is this: for having the device just over a year, is that considered a reasonable loss in capacity? Anyone else that has had the device for a similar period of time have any comments?
Further, is it unreasonable to expect the Nexus Protect program to replace the battery whether free or with a deductible?
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I think that app bases it off of average battery life in some way. I get 6.5 to about 7 hours SOT per charge and after using that app and a couple charge cycles, it said my estimated battery capacity was like 3625mah, which is higher then the 3450mah that is the original capacity. My 6P is 11 months old. I don't really trust that app in that sense. I do a lot to condition and cycle my battery properly to get as little diminished capacity as possible. I can't believe you can increase capacity.
The way you tell is your usage. When you got the phone how much did the battery last? At this point does it last 30% or 35% less then it was before? If you were getting say 5 hours of SOT before are you getting less then 3.5 hours now? I mean on average that is.
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Have you tried looking at battery degradation with a previous phone or looked at the average rate?
Not saying that it is, it could be average and considered wear and tear from the manufacturer's standpoint. Wouldn't hurt to call and ask if you find out it's significantly worse than expected.
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Unfortunately I don't have any previous phones to see this on, I only have a roughly 2 year old Nexus 9 which estimates about 85% remaining capacity which I tend to believe as it is used infrequently compared to my phone. Perhaps I will reach out to Huawei for their opinion.
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Further, is it unreasonable to expect the Nexus Protect program to replace the battery whether free or with a deductible?
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If you do have active coverage through Nexus Protect then call them and they will likely be lenient on a defective battery. One year is not reasonable time for a battery to remain healthy. Based on your 68% battery capacity and charge cycles per day, you need a new battery or a replacement phone. One thing for sure is it will not get better from here. You didn't mention whether you have pursued a warranty replacement or not. You didn't mention at what percentage of battery left the phone dies. My advice would be to work the warranty the best you can, ASAP.
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I think that app bases it off of average battery life in some way. I get 6.5 to about 7 hours SOT per charge and after using that app and a couple charge cycles, it said my estimated battery capacity was like 3625mah, which is higher then the 3450mah that is the original capacity. My 6P is 11 months old. I don't really trust that app in that sense. I do a lot to condition and cycle my battery properly to get as little diminished capacity as possible. I can't believe you can increase capacity.
The way you tell is your usage. When you got the phone how much did the battery last? At this point does it last 30% or 35% less then it was before? If you were getting say 5 hours of SOT before are you getting less then 3.5 hours now? I mean on average that is.
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I can definitely say that my battery life now is much less than 30-35% of what it originally was. Now, I cannot get more than 2.5-3 hours of SOT per charge. Standby time is excellent, but with active use and standby I generally get 6-7 hours total use out of a full charge.
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If you do have active coverage through Nexus Protect then call them and they will likely be lenient on a defective battery. One year is not reasonable time for a battery to remain healthy. Based on your 68% battery capacity and charge cycles per day, you need a new battery or a replacement phone. One thing for sure is it will not get better from here. You didn't mention whether you have pursued a warranty replacement or not. You didn't mention at what percentage of battery left the phone dies. My advice would be to work the warranty the best you can, ASAP.
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I do have the Nexus Protect coverage and I just spoke with a representative who said replacing the battery is something they cannot do, and if I did get a replacement device there is no guarantee it would be a new device this depends on the stock google has apparently. For the $79 deductible that seems like too much of a risk in my opinion.
OK, but once a battery starts degrading that much, it will just continue to do so until it dies. $80 for cross shipping a refurb and letting you transfer your data over first is about as good as it gets. I'd certainly back up everything now if you haven't already. Best of luck.
The $79 deductible only applies to accidental damage, not to electrical or mechanical defects.
Right I would contact google again. You can use the support tab in settings to do so. They are well aware of the battery issue. You shouldn't have to deal with an almost dead battery after a year. You won't get a brand new phone (they don't exist any more). They will send a refurbished unit even if it is out of warranty. They may try to shuffle you off to Project FI, but just keep trying. I just got one this week that is in mint condition. I have only 2 charging cycles with Accubattery so far but battery health is promising at 96% and estimated capacity of 3313 mAh. Got 5+ hours SOT on the first charge. Need to get some more cycles in but looks to be a big improvement here.
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So as we all know the more times you recharge a battery they eventually stop being able to hold a full charge. So what happens when say in 1 year the Evo 4g LTE can only hold 70% of a charge? Do you have to send it to HTC to get the battery replaced?
I could see this being a problem on thicker phones where the battery can be deeper in, but on this phone...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LiKpHr8RLBs
The battery is a few screws away I'd be surprised if we don't see a few aftermarket batteries.
It will take way longer than a year to reduce capacity to %70 percent... for example my mac battery that is also lithium ion is 3 years old with 651 load cycles can hold %88 percent of the original capacity.
It will be fine past the two year mark I'd think. My Epic 4G's battery still still as good as new, and my Evo's battery wont be getting charged as much (because it lasts soo much longer).
What is the best way to condition the battery?
I'll just take it to Sprint and have them replace the battery. I have TEP.
I suspect you can take it to Sprint. I haven't had any issues with the battery on any my previous HTC phones. I think you'll have issues with the phone before you have issues with the battery.
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What is the best way to condition the battery?
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Do less full charges. These are lithium batteries and they will last longer if you charge from say, 30%-50% to 100 rather then totally dead to fully charged. All the tutorials you see posted where it says fully charge, then deplete, then charge and deplete, etc don't work. Old alkaline batts used to have a memory and if you didn't do that they would eventually not charge completely. You don't have that issue nowadays.
I agree Bring battery down to a low percentage and recharge it fully.
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I'll just take it to Sprint and have them replace the battery. I have TEP.
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I asked about batteries at Sprint store (repair store) 2 days ago. They said they are not taking apart the phone. They are going to replace the phone for battery issues.
I had a seidio 3500mah battery in the old evo. After about a year of use, it's capacity dropped to about 70%. The phone went from being recharged every 2 days (with a good 55-60%+ remaining) to about 20-30% remaining after 2 days.
Unless technology has improved in the current batteries, I believe we'll see similar results.
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I'll just take it to Sprint and have them replace the battery. I have TEP.
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Most of us don't want to pay $60-$90 a year in case a $30 battery goes bad.
It's quite easy to take this phone apart to replace the battery. Just requires a Torx t5 bit and a small jeweler's philips. Really takes less than 5 min to disassemble and swap out the battery.
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Most of us don't want to pay $60-$90 a year in case a $30 battery goes bad.
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No, but it saved my ass when I dropped my phone and needed a replacement without paying full price.
HTC EVO 4G LTE "Battery"
The battery is a 2,000mAh lithium ion battery degrades if you use it or not, so use it and which has an average of 500 charges, but rarley mentions if it's protected! In previous posts I seen various time of life pertaining to the battery and I just want to say that it all depends if your a power user or not! If the battery is not protected the battery will not be stable and can explode and or recharge up to 1200 cycles and puts out the correct voltage 3.7v protected or not and a LiFePO4 can charge up to 2000 time, but only puts out 3.2 V so I have to say this is strange knowing these devices needs the extra voltage! The only way to go is a Lithium polymer battery which puts out the correct voltage and on average can charge around a 1000 cycles and seems to have less drain on the battery compared to others! Protected batteries conversate back and fourth with the charger to maintain stability, but also counts the amount of cycles which is around 500 cycles for "safety reasons" Everything is marketing! I've been screaming about this video posted above and on the HTC Forum and they've been rejecting the reply's because they obviously want to hide this information! People spend more than this on a mp3 player than what they offer for a trade in and this is the perfect mini tablet/phone! I hope third party companies make batteries for this phone! (((A little off course, but helpful is when your old power tools battery dies "nickel cadmium" you can shock it with twice the voltage by scraping the connection with the appropriate voltage and will burn the crystals off that stops it from charging because this battery has a memory!))) HTC put out a update recently that caused a issue with battery lose for the HTC EVO 4G LTE and it's all over the forum there! funny how this all goes hand in hand! Sorry for the long message, but sometimes helpful...
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Most of us don't want to pay $60-$90 a year in case a $30 battery goes bad.
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That'd be a valid argument if that were the only thing the TEP covered.
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I have never owned a phone with a non replaceable battery before. I have my One on it's first charge now. I am curious how many charges do you think this battery can handle before we start to see some decline in performance? I read with iPhones people can expect 300-500 before the batteries lose 20% or something like that of total capacity. I know our phone is different so that means very little here just using it as an example. I want to charge my phone as needed but would hate for the battery to be trash in 6 months or less. This is my primary fear with this phone, so guys tell me do I have nothing to worry about charge away... Or should I try to really be conscious of when I am charging?
Thanks in advance guys!
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I have never owned a phone with a non replaceable battery before. I have my One on it's first charge now. I am curious how many charges do you think this battery can handle before we start to see some decline in performance? I read with iPhones people can expect 300-500 before the batteries lose 20% or something like that of total capacity. I know our phone is different so that means very little here just using it as an example. I want to charge my phone as needed but would hate for the battery to be trash in 6 months or less. This is my primary fear with this phone, so guys tell me do I have nothing to worry about charge away... Or should I try to really be conscious of when I am charging?
Thanks in advance guys!
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That's 300 to 500 full discharge-charge cycles. If you only run the battery down halfway at the end of the day and charge until full, it's roughly half the wear of a full cycle. There's some benefit to longevity with having shallower discharge cycles, but not enough that you should worry. There's a lot of variability depending on the battery type, the charge controller, and the chosen charging profiles.
Most modern LiPo batteries can easily get 300-500 charge/discharge cycles before hitting 80% capacity. Those are full cycles. If you only partially charge or discharge the battery, you're not using up a full cycle.
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Most modern LiPo batteries can easily get 300-500 charge/discharge cycles before hitting 80% capacity. Those are full cycles. If you only partially charge or discharge the battery, you're not using up a full cycle.
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2 years is just such a long time. I guess the fact that this is my big concern right now means I have no REAL concerns with the phone so far. Besides it getting pretty hot! I think I'll notice the heat a lot less once my case arrives. What do you guys honestly think the shelf life of this battery will be even if it is just an educated guess?
Personally I feel that with technology these days, your phone becomes obsolete before you have to worry about your phone battery actually dying. Best thing to do in my opinion is charge whenever you can. From my knowledge, and correct me if I am wrong, its best to keep the phone above 50% charge
Yeah, I keep a charger in the car, at work, 2 at home, and Mophie Juicepack powerstation backup. (the last one is awesome for camping amd airline travel)
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Yeah, I keep a charger in the car, at work, 2 at home, and Mophie Juicepack powerstation backup. (the last one is awesome for camping amd airline travel)
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I have all of those things too, different kind of juicepack but same idea. My fear is just charging the phone nearly 2 times a day for 2 years! Even 1 and a half times. I use my phone a lot. I won't be one of those people with 50% left at the end of the day. I know I am overreacting and I should just enjoy my new amazing phone. I just can't help but be worried that the battery is gonna crap out like on my inspire after a little over a year. I also won't be getting a new phone before the 2 years are up I'm always in for the long haul.
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I have all of those things too, different kind of juicepack but same idea. My fear is just charging the phone nearly 2 times a day for 2 years! Even 1 and a half times. I use my phone a lot. I won't be one of those people with 50% left at the end of the day. I know I am overreacting and I should just enjoy my new amazing phone. I just can't help but be worried that the battery is gonna crap out like on my inspire after a little over a year. I also won't be getting a new phone before the 2 years are up I'm always in for the long haul.
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I have the exact same concern. I'm not too sure how simple it would be to just send it in to an HTC service centre to replace after a year.
HTC in South Africa has a poor presence.
http://techlife.samsung.com/tips-keep-smartphone-charged-1059.html
Charge Regularly
To get the most out of your smartphone's battery, you'll need to charge it properly. Most smartphones have a lithium-ion battery that lives longer when charged regularly. Unlike the nickel batteries used in older phones, lithium-ion batteries do best when kept above a 50 percent charge. Repeatedly allowing the battery to drain fully may shorten its life and decrease its overall capacity. If this happens, you'll need to charge the battery more frequently and it may last only a few hours before needing a charge, for example.
Your battery will also perform better if you don't let it charge to 100 percent, so take it off the charger at about 80 to 90 percent capacity. Leaving the phone connected to the charger when the phone is completely charged may lower battery life if you do it repeatedly.
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This is the ultimate battery charging explanation and guide:
http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/gadgets/a15731/best-way-to-keep-li-ion-batteries-charged/
I always follow this. Installing AccuBattery app will help you with this.
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Wow I did not know any of this. I will be following this thanks for sharing.
how long is the battery lasting if you are only going down to 50 and up to 90?
Gees! Below 50% really. I would tend to agree somewhat. I never let my phone fall below 20% and usually charge until 97% more or less. But 90-50. I don't want to be walking around with a battery back. I need my phone to last all day and 40% of the battery just won't cut it.
Xuck that !! I have a 3000mah battery for a reason if it goes then it goes ill most likely have another phone by then.Not gonna sit here to nickel and dime my usage that's not why I got this phone .
GM makes the Li batteries last in the volt and bolt 10 years by not letting the car drain the batteries more than 2/3rds down, leaving the batteries at 1/3rd charge. Tesla does it too.
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Nah, I don't own my phones for more than a year so this doesn't apply to me. I'd rather keep using it from 100-1 just like I've been doing for years. I wouldn't be able to stand only getting an hour of use and charging it 3 times a day.
This battery information applies to all devices that use this type of battery be they Samsung or other brands. Its not just the Note 8. It applies equally to your Oral-B tooth brush! :laugh:
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this is a good habit to charge often at 50%. i usually let the battery run down to like 20% or less then charge. then when i have to go somewhere and i cant play with my phone anymore cus i worry i going to run down the battery.
Question are the "300-2500" charge cycles just as it says? I mean if I put it on the charger in the car for a 10 minute drive is that a cycle along with an overnight charge? If it is we should really only be putting it on the charger from the 50-90% with a guaranteed fast charge time of at least 30+mins to get the maximum charge cycles for the lifespan?
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This is the ultimate battery charging explanation and guide:
http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/gadgets/a15731/best-way-to-keep-li-ion-batteries-charged/
I always follow this. Installing AccuBattery app will help you with this.
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This was a really well written down to earth article about battery care. Thank you. I still have friends, family, and coworkers that insist on running their batteries to 0%. I can't convince them otherwise. Although my batteries degrade, it's never been anything easy shattering. Just notice an hour or two shaved of over a couple years life. As the article states, there is no way around this and I won't be a slave to my battery. In that note, I top off when I can.
My battery on my old phone tended to get to around the 40% at the end fo the work day, then I'd plug it in usually around the 20-30% and it still lasted 2+ years 'til I got a new battery. Now it's about 50% at the end of the day. But with Fast Charge, what do they expect people to do, plug it in for an hour, then unplug it, then go to sleep, wake up with 60% battery, go to work and then charge it for an hour when you get there?
The lie of requiring a non replaceable battery for water proofing is also an issue. Forced obsolescence sucks....
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The lie of requiring a non replaceable battery for water proofing is also an issue. Forced obsolescence sucks....
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Too black and white.
It is possible to offer some water resistance to a mobile that has a removable battery, S5 for eg.
In general such water resistance is small and is often abused by the owner causing problems. Hardly any owner reads the instruction manual that outlines what ones device can and cannot do, what the IP rating means in REAL terms etc
"Forced obsolescence" mmmmm, a battery can be changed in the Note 8. I understand your point though.
Ryland
this has been around for years. Doesn't make it very convenient to use nothing below 50%! I'd need at least an 8000 mh battery!! Therefore Samsung IS using too small a batteries in its top of the range device!
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this guff has been around for years. Doesn't make it very convenient to use nothing below 50%! I'd need at least an 8000 mh battery!! Therefore Samsung IS using too smaller batteries in its top of the range device!
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Totaly agree......
We then have to ask 'ourselves' WHY! Who forced Mobile brands to make anorexic devices? WE DID. We wanted thin small large wide slim ...........we got it and now pay the price.
I personally don't care if the device is thicker with a larger battery, for me its not a problem. For so many size was a major issue so the manufacture's listened and came up with these ultra thin mobiles that are vulnerable to dropping and breaking etc. off topic.
I find it totally bizarre that we spend mega bucks on such devices only to find we are educated to use them on software that reduces said mobile to the performance of a phone costing 100€! I may add many posters where disappointed when the Note 8 didn't have a 4k screen! Can you imagine the battery issues then?
Now we read this Samsung article and find we would need to charge our mobile several times a day as well as run it on a vastly reduced software programme. In reality that article is saying the battery is only operating efficiently at 40% of its total capacity before we start to degrade its life! Its all so absurd. What are we doing here folks?
Only one answer to this, either drop the performance OR vastly improve battery technology and fast.
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I'm not sure how usefull this is for the new samsung phones though, as the release of the S8 Samsung improved the battery.
Samsung Mobile R&D VP Bookeun Oh told me, "I focused on maintaining the durability of the battery over the long term, over hundreds of charging cycles. For example, after approximately six months of normal usage, the battery in the S8 will outperform previous batteries. While most batteries hold about 80 percent of their charge after two years in usual cases, this battery should be capable of 95 percent of its original capacity."
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PC mag S8 review
I am sorry but i will use my phone all day and charge overnight. If you can't use past 50% what is the point???? My pixel xl i have had since day 1 and use all day everyday and charge overnight and noticed no real decrease in battery life except a little change with oreo!
Outdated info and not necessary.
0% on your device is still considerably above what is considered the bottom line cell voltage before excessive discharge detrimental affects capacity.
A lot of engineering has gone into these devices to squeeze every possible mAh out of the packs, have a decent life expectancy AND operate safely. There is no need to strive for certain numbers and forcibly change your usage habits. There may or may not be a demonstrably better result long term but honestly is it worth worrying about?
And for removable packs...
Forget it. That's a thing of the past.
If devices had battery life like the Skyrocket, sure I see the NEED for a swappable pack.
But not now.
Having a sealed device makes it feel solid and keeps intrusion protection intact.
Holding an older device in hand, it seems almost laughable today. It creaks and groans and feels super cheap in comparison like some dollar store toy!
12 hours of SOT is now a memory of a far away past.
I used to score 4-6 hours of SOT in heavy usage, and even 8-12 watching movies, messaging and web browsing.
But now I can barely reach the 4 hours mark, it usually stays between 2 hours (just gaming) and 4:30 (Netflix, web...)
Sometimes I don't really mind getting just a few hours of SOT, but it is really sad looking at the past and remembering that plenty of juice I could squeeze out of this device.
Did also your device got this battery capacity decay? If yes, did a battery replacement actually did something (are the batteries available on sites like AliExpress good enough)?.
Is it really a battery problem or is it a crappy Oreo battery management thing?
PS: I've been using this device for about 1 year and a half.
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12 hours of SOT is now a memory of a far away past.
I used to score 4-6 hours of SOT in heavy usage, and even 8-12 watching movies, messaging and web browsing.
But now I can barely reach the 4 hours mark, it usually stays between 2 hours (just gaming) and 4:30 (Netflix, web...)
Sometimes I don't really mind getting just a few hours of SOT, but it is really sad looking at the past and remembering that plenty of juice I could squeeze out of this device.
Did also your device got this battery capacity decay? If yes, did a battery replacement actually did something (are the batteries available on sites like AliExpress good enough)?.
Is it really a battery problem or is it a crappy Oreo battery management thing?
PS: I've been using this device for about 1 year and a half.
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Visiting the Mi Service centre will be more easy and comfortable....they can give you original battery with replacement warranty of 6 months so....that will be more genuine
It I problem of Battery as it's been used for around 1.5 Year....only those who have newly bought Kenzo like around 6-7 months can say what Oreo battery management is like....it's good or bad....you can try switching ROMs....you will see that you get a extra 30-40 mins of battery n nothing more....which means it's the decay of battery but on the ROM problem...in
I've been experimenting on Oreo and while Doze mode works really well (1% loss by night) I feel that overall battery management is awful, especially when browsing YouTube for instance where I also get 4h SOT max.
I also got my RN3 about 2y ago and battery decay is important due to my heavy usage, with Accu battery I can say that I have no lost about 1/4 battery (3200mah MAX...) But that alone can't explain the SOT loss.
Too bad there isn't any service center in my country I could use a new battery at least for the 1h more that it could give me.
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I've been experimenting on Oreo and while Doze mode works really well (1% loss by night) I feel that overall battery management is awful, especially when browsing YouTube for instance where I also get 4h SOT max.
I also got my RN3 about 2y ago and battery decay is important due to my heavy usage, with Accu battery I can say that I have no lost about 1/4 battery (3200mah MAX...) But that alone can't explain the SOT loss.
Too bad there isn't any service center in my country I could use a new battery at least for the 1h more that it could give me.
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I also checked my estimated battery capacity, and it says 3100mAh (I don't think this is very accurate).
Xiaomi doesn't officially sell phones in my country anymore (they've only sold the Redmi 2).
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I also checked my estimated battery capacity, and it says 3100mAh (I don't think this is very accurate).
Xiaomi doesn't officially sell phones in my country anymore (they've only sold the Redmi 2).
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It's definitely not the most accurate way to check, but based on several charges (more than 20%) I've never seen 4000mah
It's looks like battery degradation. The only way to really check it's swapping batteries. Did you use the stock charger?
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It's looks like battery degradation. The only way to really check it's swapping batteries. Did you use the stock charger?
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yep, using the stock charger since i bought it.
Fellow Note 8 users, I recently got to replace my 1.5 yr old battery with a new bigger capacity one. 3500mah from Polarcell... Once I get a few charge cycles going with this one I'll post results!
I had 255 charge cycles on the old one and fg_asoc was 92, fullcapnom 2890.
Evidently as I'm a very curious person, I had to test the capacity of the old battery with a high tech hobby charger/discharger from Junsi, the 4010 DUO. As it stands out, fully charging the battery to 4.4V and then doing a deep discharge to 3V netted me 3273mAh. Be aware that this is a way deeper charge/discharge cycle than the phone would ever do. In order to prolong lifespan, Samsung is not using the full capacity of the battery.
Whether there's an algorithm tied to battery aging and fg_asoc, or the battery is actually a bit higher capacity than spec, it remains to be seen. I'll conduct more tests, and keep everybody posted.
Ask away any question the you may have and don't be bummed out it your Galaxy battery is reporting lower capacity from the start. It may not be the case.
Cheers,
Andrei.
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Samsung is not using the full capacity of the battery.
Whether there's an algorithm tied to battery aging and fg_asoc, or the battery is actually a bit higher capacity than spec,
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I've notice DJI doing the same thing with my Phantom 3 drone batteries whenever I use a hobby-grade charger connected directly to the terminals of the battery itself. I say this is a good design by Samsung if it is as you are suggesting.
Good thinking, I have a ph3 battery lying around wi5h no more than 50 cycles on it. I could measure that too!
You need to remember that your Phantom 3 batteries have a nominal 4.35V per cell as opposed to the usual 4.2, so you would need to factor this in to your hobby grade charger. I have a Hyperion EOS.... model. I've used this to "revive" several phone and laptop cells in the past (once the cell isn't internally damaged).
I don't think one needs to be concerned about fg_asoc or fg_fullcapnom once there isn't too much deep discharging of the cells.
Yes, I'm aware of that. Sometimes I undercharge my ph3 batteries by 0.05v to make them last longer. The 4010 duo is one hell of a charger and I love it!
Back to the note 8 battery, I'm getting spectacular battery life with the new bigger cell and the One UI update. Currently at 60% remaining with 24h of use and 3h of SOT. Stellar!
Cheers!
Just a question, did they reseal the back cover for waterproofing after?
There's no they, I did it myself. Bought some original Tesa double sided tape from ifixit.com and it worked great.