First of all,This solution is inspired by the ILAPO FIX THREAD that is present here on XDA:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/g4/development/ilapo-infinite-loop-auto-power-off-fix-t3404421
The ilapo fix depends on disabling the two big cores of the snapdragon 808 that is present on both the LG G4 and LG V10 since the two cores are the reason for the bootloop.....the thing about the ILAPO fix is that it fixes the phone after it gets bootloop
So i thought about disabling this two big cores before the phone gets bootloop
The solution is:
1-Root your phone.
2-Download an app called Multicore Cpu Control Pro(I googled it since I haven't found the app on the paystore) or any other app that lets you disable the cores on your phone.
3-Enter the app and add a new profile then on editing the profile choose cores always disabled on the cores number 4 and 5 then save the new profile.
Now you're done
-The thing is this solution is just a theory I believe in
-the performance of the phone would be a little slower and not affected much....I know that by applying this method on my brother's V10
-You have to make your phone always awake and don't restart it.....but if you restart it you have to enter the app and apply the step number 3 again on every boot
N.B:apply this method at your own risk.....I'm not responsible for any damage that affect your phone.
Sorry for my bad english
Is it actually work, Bro?
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this will actually help cause the big cores are why it get so hot.What i would recommend is opening it up and applying a 1.5mm arctic cooling thermal pad.I haven't put the pad in yet but i've been using mx-2 thermal paste and the heat dissipates way better.Its not strictly hot at one spot (the back near camera) rather even spread out and actually more on the screen (since metal plate is attached to display, so it's working).i've compared the temp's with my note 4 and surprisingly the v10 is cooler idle and under load. The thermal pad lg uses is plain out ridiculous and i'm almost certain doesn't make proper contact with the processor after lots of heat/usage cycles. that's why your phone get so hot the processor its unable to dissipate the heat to the metal plate and it reaches other components on the mobo and it bootloops.Not saying the processor is not the cause of the problem, im sure internally the processor contacts fails(not mobo contacts) which is why heating it up with a hair dryer brings it to life momentarily . i'm almost certain bootloop is not caused by soldering but by bad thermal design because lead free solder takes over 180c to melt. no way a mobile processor can provide that much heat and you wouldn't feel it.
Boodeyman said:
First of all,This solution is inspired by the ILAPO FIX THREAD that is present here on XDA:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/g4/development/ilapo-infinite-loop-auto-power-off-fix-t3404421
The ilapo fix depends on disabling the two big cores of the snapdragon 808 that is present on both the LG G4 and LG V10 since the two cores are the reason for the bootloop.....the thing about the ILAPO fix is that it fixes the phone after it gets bootloop
So i thought about disabling this two big cores before the phone gets bootloop
The solution is:
1-Root your phone.
2-Download an app called Multicore Cpu Control Pro(I googled it since I haven't found the app on the paystore) or any other app that lets you disable the cores on your phone.
3-Enter the app and add a new profile then on editing the profile choose cores always disabled on the cores number 4 and 5 then save the new profile.
Now you're done
-The thing is this solution is just a theory I believe in
-the performance of the phone would be a little slower and not affected much....I know that by applying this method on my brother's V10
-You have to make your phone always awake and don't restart it.....but if you restart it you have to enter the app and apply the step number 3 again on every boot
N.B:apply this method at your own risk.....I'm not responsible for any damage that affect your phone.
Sorry for my bad english
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It is here on the Aptoide store. But you need to download the Aptoide app first.
And it does have the apply on boot feature. Go to its settings tab and enable it.
Thanx to the Boodeyman
EDIT: There is also another app like this called Quad Core Manager + available on Play Store here.
Give thanks if you find this post useful.
well, i will be honest with you guy's and tell you what i did with my phone, nothings special but it works flawless:
first open the phone and remove the stock thermal pad (golden thing on the metal from the side of screen) with some alcohol, rub your finger on it until it starts to lift, clean it with a cloth and very important: dont put the screwdriver to remove the thing because it will damage the metal and the heat will not dissipate as good.
then apply quarter of a size one bean of Artic Cooling MX-4 and with a visa card like (if transparent better) and press until it cover all the processor.
with careful take off the metal shield on the right and put it on the chip bellow (see the video i share, its all i have done).
the thermal paste need to be 2 mm higher from the cpu to make contact with the metal of the back display part.
i share the video i follow: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Gp7AbZdsyc
assembly all togheter and then search fot msm 8992 mod in V10 forum and do it, replace the thermal-engine8992 files (if you are rooted) with the ones you fint in the thread and your phone will be super cool.
That all i have done to mine and now it never goes above 38/40º....
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hello guys ,I have to say i came back to htc because i really love it ,but this time on htc one x + which i think i have choosed the right thing (between a plastic s3 ,with bugged firmwares ,etc ) , After i bought i went to home and charged it a bitt ,then i started to install apps to personalize it more ,etc like a normal guy . After 20 mins my phone started to overheat and the camera was so hot ,i'm afraid to don't fry something ,i know is winter but seriously i didn't wanted a stove ,anyway after a deep search i've found a "Fix" if i say , but i don't wanna use it till i receive more information about it .There's a guide like this
1. Charge the device for at least 10 minutes
2. With the device truly OFF (NOT ON STANDBY) , push in and hold volume up and volume down AND power button And HOLD for 2 minutes and let go once 2 Minutes has passed.
What exactly is doing , and it is a truly fix ? Or my "normal" overheating is normal ?
I'm on stock rom ,4.2.2 android,didn't tried any root or something else to modify him .Thanks in advance
Also i forgot to mention , the notification light is low ,i barely see it when is on charge or receive a notification .
EDIT: oh yay ,now my notification light stopped working,sometime is like a inch of dust and sometime is not ,and only orange one is working while charging ,green doesn't work . Shall i try a toothbrush?
Use your common sense, take it to the service center. My phone used to Overheat, now it doesn't even when playing Real Racing 3 for two hours on a charger
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i think i will ,but woaw ,i used to play real racing on s3 for 2h and i almost cooked a egg on it
and what about led notification ,it is a firmware bug?
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and what about led notification ,it is a firmware bug?
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No, it definitely is not. Take it to the service center.
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but at least is that "Fix" working with all those combinations ?
There's no overheating issue with One X+ in general, it's just Tegra 3 SoC getting very hot under heavy load. Definitely use Power saver mode to cap the CPU at 1.3Ghz when gaming, this helps a lot to reduce heat output (although it still gets hot)! Also don't charge your phone while gaming (or vice versa)! If you experience high temperatures on normal use, you should check your installed apps, maybe something locks the CPU to high frequencies or causes high cpu loads in background. Also i don't recommend using any app to control CPU frequency, they don't work well with stock kernel and may mess up frequency scaling.
In case all this does not help for you, maybe you have to send it to repair.
I recently broke my OPO and switched to this device using the same SIM card (I use T-Mobile) I've noticed on both devices they have a tendency to overheat. Both according to Coolify Flat ( going upwards of 40°C According to Coolify) and the lg g3 specifically in TWRP reaching upwards of 70°C according to the temp indicator there (can't remember if the OPO would overheat in recovery).
I'm wondering could the SIM be causing overheating issues?
Is it because the phones are a tad bit old?
Is it due to the 801 Snapdragon?
A culmination of the 3?
Or something I haven't thought of?
I should be receiving a new SIM card tonight to isolate that will report on that later but I would definitely appreciate any insight.
So put the new SIM card in yesterday, the phone did not get to 40°C even while I was charging it until I went out to play Pokémon go at night, during which time the temperature of the device shot up uncomfortably quick, reaching up to 42-44°C before I started freaking out and turning off everything I could in attempts to cool it down.
Right now the device is sitting at 36.7°C from me streaming music and replying to this post and another using XDA labs, now my gaming PC doesn't even act like this when I'm doing some hard gaming and I do not use liquid cooling so I find this quite disturbing.
Could someone help me out here? I would rather not melt this device as I'm trying to hold onto it until the new Google phone drops, also it is now at 37.5°C at the time of finishing this post
I really don't know what to tell you. I believe my phone's been 70 degrees celsius regularly in TWRP during backup/restore process and I haven't had a problem. I don't think it's the age of the phone. Don't know if it's necessarily the processor or if it's just the lack of a better heatsink (I believe there's a thread or two possibly about adding your own additional heatsink/improving on the stock setup).
Hello everyone.
I just ordered an LG V10 H961N (dual sim) and i expect it to arrive within 8 days.
but i've got a couple of questions.
I come from a LG G3 which had plenty of roms and root etc but what is available for the v10?
1. Which latest android version has root on the H961N?
2. What rom is currently the best (root or without) (latest android)?
And since i get a "new" v10 i can post a dump if that's what you guys want to have. just tell me how and what's relevant and i'll get it done.
Also about the overheating/bootloop thing, I modded my G3 with a piece of thermal pad and thermal paste. the screen gets just a little bit more warm however i've never had any problems with the phone.
Now is my plan to do the same with the V10 to prevent problems from happening.
i've bought 1mm thick thermal pad but i don't know if this is to thick or not.
Do any of you guys have any experience with it?
(i don't have any LG warranty so i don't mind a little mod to lengthen the life span of my new phone)
aliexpress: item/Original-LG-V10-4GB-RAM-64GB-ROM-5-7-Octa-Core-Android-5-1-LTE-4G/32752661897.html
Is where i bought it
What are the options with the v10 as of now?
Look for something similar on youtube. The device its very simple to disassemble and there is not problem to reach the core to put the thermal pad. I don't think it is a bad idea but you need to know what are you doing. I try to avoid the overheating issues (and bootloop problem) using a regular charger from my old S2 (I don't trust at all to "quick charge" mode) and to not gaming when its on charge. The best options would be to have two batteries with external charger for both of them. For now nothing happen on my device (1 y and 6 months).
Let us know
Sorry for my English
Blard23xx said:
Look for something similar on youtube. The device its very simple to disassemble and there is not problem to reach the core to put the thermal pad. I don't think it is a bad idea but you need to know what are you doing. I try to avoid the overheating issues (and bootloop problem) using a regular charger from my old S2 (I don't trust at all to "quick charge" mode) and to not gaming when its on charge. The best options would be to have two batteries with external charger for both of them. For now nothing happen on my device (1 y and 6 months).
Let us know
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No need to apologise for English, it's the world wide web after all.
I-am experienced and comftable taking phones and many other devices apart and making hardware mods.
I've searched all over the internet but no one can tell me the amount of space between the soc and the shielding sadly thus i gambled on 1mm.
But if someone does know, i'd like to know as well.
Good tips, thank you
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No need to apologise for English, it's the world wide web after all.
I-am experienced and comftable taking phones and many other devices apart and making hardware mods.
I've searched all over the internet but no one can tell me the amount of space between the soc and the shielding sadly thus i gambled on 1mm.
But if someone does know, i'd like to know as well.
Good tips, thank you
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get the arctic cooling gap filler thermal pad.i have it installed in my v10 and it compresses easily for a tight contact with the processor. now the front of the phone gets hotter then the back, figures cause heatsink plate is attached to display.phone is very easy to disassemble.though i dont understand why you would gamble on the v10 now.yes its very cheap for a very capable phone, but even having better thermal cooling might not prevent the bootloop.
jass65 said:
get the arctic cooling gap filler thermal pad.i have it installed in my v10 and it compresses easily for a tight contact with the processor. now the front of the phone gets hotter then the back, figures cause heatsink plate is attached to display.phone is very easy to disassemble.though i dont understand why you would gamble on the v10 now.yes its very cheap for a very capable phone, but even having better thermal cooling might not prevent the bootloop.
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Becouse the LG G3 supposidly had the same problems but i never experienced them.
And i've got a reflow oven standing by.
How thick is that "arctic cooling gap filler thermal pad"?
1.5mm but it compresses nicely
This is the only and permanent solution to random reboots, No wifi, No Bluetooth, No SIM, unknown baseband of the Xiaomi Mi 8 Normal and Pocopohone F1 that there is, please watch the whole video, even the fault that is shown in the video It is different from what many owners of these cell phones suffer, this is the only permanent solution
1. Completely disassemble the equipment
2.Disconnect all peripherals (Cameras, Flex, antennas)
3.Remove metallic shielding from SoC at 300 Degrees Centigrade
4.Carefully remove the first layer of the SoC (Ram Memory)
5.Carefully remove second layer of SoC (Cpu, gpu, npu, bb)
6.Remove the old tin and clean the debris
7.Place new tin to the components
8.Return both layers of the SoC to 400 Degrees Centigrade
Assemble it all again
CINCO Technology channel credits:
https://youtu.be/XZxYYCSziSI
This seems to be the solution to this problem.
I recently took this device appart as a side project after abandoning it, thinking I had messed up the software, but putting thermal tape on top of the shielding causing pressure on the soc seems to have fixed it at least for now.
I dont know how long it'll last, but I'm happy to have this device back! Maybe I'll try to learn to do this, I do have a SMD rework station, just never tried to microsolder.
JvaOneShotzXprX said:
This seems to be the solution to this problem.
I recently took this device appart as a side project after abandoning it, thinking I had messed up the software, but putting thermal tape on top of the shielding causing pressure on the soc seems to have fixed it at least for now.
I dont know how long it'll last, but I'm happy to have this device back! Maybe I'll try to learn to do this, I do have a SMD rework station, just never tried to microsolder.
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I also put a heating pad to press the SoC and it worked for me for about 2 months without giving me problems and using it to the maximum playing with graphics to the maximum, but after 2 months the problems returned, the Wi-Fi disconnected by itself and lost mobile connection and finally restarted randomly
Hi,
I noticed my xperia 1 mark III is overheating even in normal use, especially in 120Hz mode. I hope sony will fix it as this device is really scalding.
It really burns!
This is the hottest device I ever had
Software version: 61.0.A.11.23
You're burning up your battery. Time is of the essence, resolve this issue fast. Shutdown the phone if it gets too hot!!!
Auto thermal shutdown may not protect the display/mobo especially if in hot ambient temperatures, in direct sunlight, or when charging.
Keep brightness at 50% or less.
Factory reset.
If that fails...
Find the apks or/and services causing to high drain.
If that fails, return the device.
The clock is ticking, Mr Wick tic-tok...
This is a serious problem. I took some photos and videos (4k and slowmotion) while standing in the sun. Outside temperature was about 23°C (73°F). After about 5 minutes I got an overheat message.
An app that I installed earlier registered an internal temperature of 40.5°c. It felt really hot to (while in a bumper case).
After I put the phone on a granite kitchen table it cooled down in about 10 minutes.
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This is a serious problem. I took some photos and videos (4k and slowmotion) while standing in the sun. Outside temperature was about 23°C (73°F). After about 5 minutes I got an overheat message.
An app that I installed earlier registered an internal temperature of 40.5°c. It felt really hot to (while in a bumper case).
After I put the phone on a granite kitchen table it cooled down in about 10 minutes.
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It is serious. Turn off the phone when it feels very warm before it goes over temperature.
Using a AMOLED display in direct sunlight is never a good plan. Limit it to seconds of use.
I have had this same problem since I got it to the point where I got an alert that some apps would be shutdown.
US Version purchased from Adoroma in the states : 61.0.A.11.23
Just another aggravating issue with this phone. Some are having boot loops of a sort also! What is wrong with these companies? Can they not produce a decent product anymore? 1300.00 and it's junk???????????
I am getting overheating as well, a little warm most of the time I use the phone.
Definitely was the 120hz display turned on. Less warm when the 60.
When using the wireless charger.
Anytime I use the cameras.
I am on the latest update as well.
Hm, very intriguing issue with $1300 flagship smartphone from such a respectable brand. I had similar problem with Xperia 1 II in several occasions. And... I think I know what's the problem (not bloody hot SD888 as you might suggest!). Please have a good look at dissasembly video:
Then compare it with $390 LG V60 ThinQ disassembly video from the same guy. Spot the difference! And it is - missing cooling system on Xperia 1 II / 1 III whereas LG V60 has quite big copper vapour chamber! Maybe that's why my LG V60 never gets really hot. So the question is ... WTF are you doing SONY?!
Well, I just sent back my first Pixel - 5A - for overheating. I have been watching the 1 iii and the 5 iii as a possible purchase...but I am turned off by the dedicated assistant button that might possibly be remappable... but for sure I will NOT buy either of these mark 3 phones if they overheat! Makes me sick just how badly most new phones are functioning.
Yeah same, it seems to turn off randomly when using the cameras and when 120HZ screen is on.
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Yeah same, it seems to turn off randomly when using the cameras and when 120HZ screen is on.
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I think it's the case for warranty replacement or even return if possible. This is one of the reason why I don't buy expensive brand new phones parallel imported (not officially sold in my country). Just because it means no proper warranty, no service, no nothing.
My Xperia 1 III is getting extremely hot even when taking photos (only 2-3) then get message about hot temperature and apps shutting down.
I use Streamlabs mostly (sometimes Prism) to broadcast to YouTube, foundthe phone almost useless! Overheating in seconds from start of s stream! I'm using my old Samsung Note 10 again as Sony wasn't simply useful.
Now I found a solution to it (sorry solution is too big word)
- I've turned "object tracking" off in camera
- I've turned autofocus on in camera
- I've turned 120hz off
Today we had hot day here in UK (27 Celcius ) I did my tests.
Streamlabs at 1080p , 7000kbps , 30fps run outdoor for about an hour smoothly. Connected to charger started to overheat.
Not to mention that tethering makes it hot quickly (so with Samsung).
Prism at 1080p 60fps run smoothly for couple of minutes and then crashed.
Didn't connect the charger.
I use Streamlabs to transmit 5-6 hours of stream into YouTube using mobile network in most if the times and whilst driving (so changing stations constantly)
I found that using WiFi it doesn't get as hot.
Also charging makes it very hot - SONY advertised it as able to by powered directly by a charger without charging battery, how and where do I find that option?
Is it available using car charger with quick charge 3.0?
I like the phone , like the shape , size and feel to it. Camera is OK (I own Sony a6500 )
Hate the fact of poor selfie camera in such expensive phone (I do live streams using selfie cam too)
Right I've ordered a return of my phone and have 30 days to send it back what alternatives do I have? Really like the SONY if it wasn't overheating I'd love it. Is there a solution to it? Cooler anything?
The things I like about the phone are:
*shape and overall feel in hand
*Cameras are ok don't really see if they great quality or not will still use my a6500 camera.
*Like the fact that can use sd card
*Love finger print reader in power button and seperate camera button
*like the fact that there's no rounded edges - hate them in my Samsung Note
I blame my problems with overheating by poorly made apps not the phone itself and not sure changing the phone will change it.
What are the options should I consider? Samsung S21 Ultra ? iPhone 12,13?
I'm a SONY fan and had many if their phones and that's why I'm looking for a solution otherwise would send it back straight away...
Can anyone help me with my problem?
Many thanks
Bart
Unfortunately greedy sony didn't provide any cooling solution to mark 3... Check disassembly videos, there is no any cooling solution at all, like you will find in asus - small vapor chamber etc. Literally nothing!
They knew snap 888 is overheating. They must have tested this device before releasing it, isn't it?
But no, still didn't apply any cooling solution. And that's a big shame and huge problem of this device.
Not sure if qualcomm provide any updated drivers to assess this problem or not. Or if sony will try to fix it. So far they did nothing and still it overheats. Mine too and you are right by saying that on 3G/5G it is hotter than on wifi.
I wonder how they can market battery as capable and better for 3 years with such hot device. Temperature of course has huge negative impact on battery longevity.
Sad but true
I'm quite shocked! Thanks for the info about disassembly videos...
I'm thinking if getting a cooler which you attach to the body.
What I forgot to mention that cameras itself (the lenses) don't get that hot is the area under them and closer to the centre. So must be processor and lack of cooling system.
Not sure what to do...
We have a hot weather now so I will test it intensively (if I was a Sony tester I'd never allow for the phone to be released like this).
Heating problems is why I keep saying that for any SOC/CPU/GPU manufacturer to keep upping the speeds of these things is STUPID! I can virtually guarantee that from now on every new CPU produced by all OEM's is going to overheat! Have you ever walked into a data center, with hundreds of servers running? You have to wear ear protection because the roar of all the internal cooling fans is deafening!
So then "we" attempt to put similar CPU's inside a device the size of a small remote control WITHOUT a fan and wonder why it overheats? There are only so many ways to keep the phone(s) cool. Use them while frozen solid in a block of ice, or better yet, stop running so many CPU/GPU intensive apps all at the same time. It's simple thermodynamics at work here. The more you have running at the same time, the harder the SOC needs to work, the hotter it is going to run. Another solution, that is literally unacceptable to most people, is to code in a lowering of the speed of the SOC. If this needs to be done then it becomes very clear that building a new, faster SOC every year is STUPID!
One more thing... I've heard that Xperia 1III is capable of powering the phone directly without battery charging to lower the heat...Does anyone know how do I turn this future on?
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One more thing... I've heard that Xperia 1III is capable of powering the phone directly without battery charging to lower the heat...Does anyone know how do I turn this future on?
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This is applicable with the game enhancer. You can add some apps there and when you open it, you can enable HS power control. Also sony just release a new firmware that answer you with this issue.. you can check my video
vanderbart said:
One more thing... I've heard that Xperia 1III is capable of powering the phone directly without battery charging to lower the heat...Does anyone know how do I turn this future on?
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Have to sit at the outlet all the time? or how will this happen?
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This is applicable with the game enhancer. You can add some apps there and when you open it, you can enable HS power control. Also sony just release a new firmware that answer you with this issue.. you can check my video
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Thanks a lot , tomorrow I will be testing - doing long live stream on YouTube using Streamlabs, I always keep my phone under charger as I drive HGV sometimes for 3-4hrs non stop so battery would die.
It also going to be hot day here in UK and having the phone close to windscreen won't help - I know I shouldn't complain about overheating in such circumstances but my phone overheats even when taking photos although I have a feeling that after last system update its looking better , also as I mentioned before switching off object tracking has improved how smooth camera works using Streamlabs and Prism.
I'm considering buying a cooler for my phone too.
I will post my report tomorrow of how it went.
Many thanks
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Have to sit at the outlet all the time? or how will this happen?
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I found the future now in Game Enhancer app, you can power it directly. Not sure how it will perform yet. Tomorrow will send my report.
I often run streaming app in the background and not sure if Game Enhancer will work that way. I run nav app (Sygic Truck).
Heat problem has gone down significantly for me after the latest update yesterday. Usually the phone got really warm even with me just browsing using Chrome or going through Facebook. Now even when playing ROK or Mobile Legends it doesn't get that warm.