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For some time I been thinking about getting a Nexus7, but thought if I got the 10 I would have a bigger screen as well as more features, but I also want to be able to pocket it and take it with me everywhere more easily, so will choosing the 10 for better specs or going 7 for portability be better?
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For comparison about this, you can check out YouTube channel named "oode". He has been doing some comparisons about Google Nexus 7 and Google Nexus 10 in term of gaming, browsing experience, hardware, software and anything. It's really worth checking out though. His videos are HD quality. The owner of that channel is also polite to viewers, you can ask him anything and he will be more than pleased to answer your questions quickly.
I think Google Nexus 7 is a great choice if you intend to use this tablet on the go. But Google Nexus 10 is also tempting if you will use this device mostly in your house. All Android apps, whether it's well optimized or not, will run perfectly on Google Nexus 10.
GearsGod said:
For some time I been thinking about getting a Nexus7, but thought if I got the 10 I would have a bigger screen as well as more features, but I also want to be able to pocket it and take it with me everywhere more easily, so will choosing the 10 for better specs or going 7 for portability be better?
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If I didn't have my galaxy s3 I probably would have gone with the Nexus 7, but I LOVE my nexus 10. It's beautiful. Does everything I expected and more more more. It feels well made and I am very happy with it. The size is the same as an iPad and its easy to put in a bag, carry with you on a plane, etc. You may not think 3 inches is a big difference but its a huge amount of real estate from 7 to 10 inches.... so it wont go in your pocket... but will a 7" tab really go in you pocket?
The portability of the Nexus 7 is nice, but I don't really have too much of an issue carrying around my Nexus 10 either (laptop bags are nice).
Main thing that makes me like the 10 over the 7 is the rear-facing camera; never realized how nice it was to have one until I got the Nexus 7 (my previous tablet before that was a Galaxy Tab 7)
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hmm I heard the feel of the 7 has a soft rubber that makes it easy to grip while the 10 has a hard smooth plastic?
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hmm I heard the feel of the 7 has a soft rubber that makes it easy to grip while the 10 has a hard smooth plastic?
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i've never had hands on experiences with nex 10 but have a nex 7 and can confirm that its easy to grip and super portable ! like others mentioned if you can sacrifice a bit on the portability side of things then go for nexus 10 hands down !
Is price an issue? For 250 A 32 GB 7 is hard to beat. My boy has the 7, I'm on the 10.
We both had HP touchpads prior. I knew I wanted the 10. For work and play I need the real estate.
He was weary of playing games on a smaller screen. A week later he is still telling me every day...I love my tablet.
Either is a winner... Cost and size should be your deciding factor...
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I own the nexus 7 and I love it, I gave away my ipad 3 bc i was not using it after i got the n7. I was bored this afternoon so I went to staples to see and probably buy the N10.
Honestly I was disappointed, physically it doesn't look too nice , the screen is sharp but color saturation is bad, black are not black, N7 has much better blacks. Testing the performance, i opened chrome and went to the verge, it lags, and after 30 secs browsing, the tablet completely froze.
Honestly right now there is no better 10 inch tablet than ipad 4. All android 10inch flagships have problems.
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That is also another thing that I heard, that the ten has bugs and isn't as compatible as the 7, well I would like the nice size for playing my HD games and doing some questionable browsing, the 7 seems more stable in its updates. Correct me if I am wrong but isn't the 7 almost always in stock while the 10 is not?
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That is also another thing that I heard, that the ten has bugs and isn't as compatible as the 7, well I would like the nice size for playing my HD games and doing some questionable browsing, the 7 seems more stable in its updates. Correct me if I am wrong but isn't the 7 almost always in stock while the 10 is not?
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Keep in mind that the Nexus 10 is still brand new, so I expect many of the bugs will be addressed in future updates or by our dev's themselves. As far as the N10 not being in stock, again, its brand new and released right before the holiday season so the demand was higher than the supply. However, I was able to walk right in my local Walmart the day after Christmas and pick up a N10 32gb. So, you can find them if you look around a bit.
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but will a 7" tab really go in you pocket?
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Yes it will, I fit mine into my coat and pants pockets all the time, it works great.
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robrob777 said:
I own the nexus 7 and I love it, I gave away my ipad 3 bc i was not using it after i got the n7. I was bored this afternoon so I went to staples to see and probably buy the N10.
Honestly I was disappointed, physically it doesn't look too nice , the screen is sharp but color saturation is bad, black are not black, N7 has much better blacks. Testing the performance, i opened chrome and went to the verge, it lags, and after 30 secs browsing, the tablet completely froze.
Honestly right now there is no better 10 inch tablet than ipad 4. All android 10inch flagships have problems.
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Try the Note 10.1 I have them both. I agree the screen is not as great as I thought it would be with the extra pixels for the N10. The processor is still good, the apps and functionality can be eventually worked out, might be software related. The resolution is and size is new. iPad has had its issues too with connectivity--wifi, Bluetooth, overheating & screen bleeds. Note 10 however works great, I mainly use it for productivity. It is a computer and have trouble seeing it as an entertainment device that's why I got the N10 to separate work from play. No complaints about the Note 10 at all, I got more than my money's worth. No screen bleed, overheating, connectivity problems or lag. I only wish Samsung would put out firmware that will allow end users to hook a 1TB or more hard drive to it to catch the work flow. N10 can only get better with each software update.
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Yes it will, I fit mine into my coat and pants pockets all the time, it works great.
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"Is that a Nexus 7 in your pocket or you just happy to see me?"
I've got the Nexus 10 and also got Nexus 7's for my kids. I've used the 10 extensively and spent quite a bit of time with the 7 as well. Love them both. I use the 10 for work as well as play, and the size is important to me in order to use it for work purposes. The 7 is fantastically convenient for media consumption, web browsing, games and social media, but would be cramped for content creation or sharing a PowerPoint deck with a client. They are both superb tablets. The 10 fits my particular needs, but the 7 is incredibly portable. In the end, choosing its personal, based on your particular needs and usage patterns.
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I've got the Nexus 10 and also got Nexus 7's for my kids. I've used the 10 extensively and spent quite a bit of time with the 7 as well. Love them both. I use the 10 for work as well as play, and the size is important to me in order to use it for work purposes. The 7 is fantastically convenient for media consumption, web browsing, games and social media, but would be cramped for content creation or sharing a PowerPoint deck with a client. They are both superb tablets. The 10 fits my particular needs, but the 7 is incredibly portable. In the end, choosing its personal, based on your particular needs and usage patterns.
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Hmm, I might go with the 7 as I consume media like crazy and play random games, not going to be doing much powerpoint
If u gotta big screen phone go for 10 if not get 7. I love my N10 cuz on the go I have my note 2.
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EvoYas said:
If u gotta big screen phone go for 10 if not get 7. I love my N10 cuz on the go I have my note 2.
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I only have a wildfire s marvelc, which if you knew anything about is very lacking in internal memory and any form to boost that fails.
So I think we have a winner
robrob777 said:
I own the nexus 7 and I love it, I gave away my ipad 3 bc i was not using it after i got the n7. I was bored this afternoon so I went to staples to see and probably buy the N10.
Honestly I was disappointed, physically it doesn't look too nice , the screen is sharp but color saturation is bad, black are not black, N7 has much better blacks. Testing the performance, i opened chrome and went to the verge, it lags, and after 30 secs browsing, the tablet completely froze.
Honestly right now there is no better 10 inch tablet than ipad 4. All android 10inch flagships have problems.
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I retract my statement, I got the N10 anyway and I got a good one, it looks much better than the display, it looks as good as my N7.
To get away from the freezes on Chrome, I am using CM browser with ipad user agent, full screen and flash.
So far so good.
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I retract my statement, I got the N10 anyway and I got a good one, it looks much better than the display, it looks as good as my N7.
To get away from the freezes on Chrome, I am using CM browser with ipad user agent, full screen and flash.
So far so good.
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That's good to hear, how much HD apps are their? Are they any good or are they just "BUY ME BECAUSE I HAVE HD AND MY REAL CONTENT SUCKS!" ?
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That's good to hear, how much HD apps are their? Are they any good or are they just "BUY ME BECAUSE I HAVE HD AND MY REAL CONTENT SUCKS!" ?
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Not that many, for example facebook looks bad, but it is not a big deal because with this screen I am using the full web version.
Apps like the verge, business insider, redbox look bad but again this is OK because the webversion works exellent.
I keep seeing these great deals on the Nexus 10. Although it's an old tablet it is well received and still seems to be among the best available. After deciding to wait for the new version, it keeps getting pushed back and who knows when it will actually be available? I think I may just go with the original N10 as my Asus TF300 is absolutely driving me nuts. It's nearly unusable at times... if it's doing any kind of app update or sync, forget it, it's unusable. I am rooted and on a custom ROM and still have issues. I was fed up and need a replacement now. Should I stick with the N10 or maybe look into some other tablets... Budget is around $300...
Yeah its still a good tablet if you can get it for a decent price. I love mine, although it does have its flaws for sure. But if my tablet suddenly turned into a stack of $300 bills I am not sure I would buy it again. I would probably look at maybe a Sony Tablet Z.
The reason i say this is that the N10 is not a perfect device. For a start the battery is not the best. On 4.3 I would eek out 8 hours with very conservative use and low brightness. On 4.4 that has dropped to 6-7 hours on a very good day. The battery issue is mainly due to the chipsets used, which is a dual core A15 and Mali T604 graphics. Both of these are pretty power hungry compared to newer chipsets. Newer CPU's have lower powered cores which handle mundane tasks and conserve power. Also, the graphics use up 1GB of the system memory, so really you only get 1GB for system RAM and not 2GB like most tablets. Kitkat 4.4. had to be gimped on the N10 mainly due to the N10 not have enough grunt to run certain aspects of 4.4 like the translucent bars and ART without stutter. Another thing is its not a tablet to be held in portrait mode due to the design. It should be held in landscape mode at all times. It just feels way better held like that.
Don't get me wrong I love my N10, especially the design. Its definitely the best tablet in terms of ergonomics I have used. The screen is still fantastic and the speakers being on the front are really great and go to a decent level. Performance is also really good being vanilla android and all with no bloatware.
So I do love my N10 but its not perfect, but I can live with its faults. But if I was to buy another tablet tomorrow I would definitely look around at the competition.
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Yeah its still a good tablet if you can get it for a decent price. I love mine, although it does have its flaws for sure. But if my tablet suddenly turned into a stack of $300 bills I am not sure I would buy it again. I would probably look at maybe a Sony Tablet Z.
The reason i say this is that the N10 is not a perfect device. For a start the battery is not the best. On 4.3 I would eek out 8 hours with very conservative use and low brightness. On 4.4 that has dropped to 6-7 hours on a very good day. The battery issue is mainly due to the chipsets used, which is a dual core A15 and Mali T604 graphics. Both of these are pretty power hungry compared to newer chipsets. Newer CPU's have lower powered cores which handle mundane tasks and conserve power. Also, the graphics use up 1GB of the system memory, so really you only get 1GB for system RAM and not 2GB like most tablets. Kitkat 4.4. had to be gimped on the N10 mainly due to the N10 not have enough grunt to run certain aspects of 4.4 like the translucent bars and ART without stutter. Another thing is its not a tablet to be held in portrait mode due to the design. It should be held in landscape mode at all times. It just feels way better held like that.
Don't get me wrong I love my N10, especially the design. Its definitely the best tablet in terms of ergonomics I have used. The screen is still fantastic and the speakers being on the front are really great and go to a decent level. Performance is also really good being vanilla android and all with no bloatware.
So I do love my N10 but its not perfect, but I can live with its faults. But if I was to buy another tablet tomorrow I would definitely look around at the competition.
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Almost Everything Warren_Orange has said is true to certain degree. The screen is still fantastic compared to newer tablets even though it may not be #1 anymore in terms of quality. Yes, ram on the nexus 10 is a little scarce due to the high screen resolution but its not a deal breaker by any means. KitKat has vastly improved ram management on this device and it is a night and day difference. Battery life could certainly be better and don't even get me started on the insanely long charging times lol.
A few things I would kindly disagree with is that "the processor in the N10 doesn't have enough power for 4.4." I think the features missing from 4.4 on the N10 has more to due with fact that its using an exynos processor and not snapdragon or some other mainstream chip. Exynos chips tend to be more locked down with their drivers and less compatible than other popular chipsets. I haven't come across one app or game that my n10 couldn't run or struggled with. If anything it seems like Google hasn't totally optimized this tablet to its fullest potential on the software end. Also I think the N10 is fine held in portrait mode. It just feels little odd at first if you're not used to a 16:9 tablet.
Like Warren_Orange said, the N10 isn't prefect but its still a great tablet. One thing I would recommend if you decide to purchase it (and are comfortable with) is root it, install a ROM like SlimKat Official build 3 and over clock the CPU and GPU (overclocking the gpu will be the most beneficial to help cope with the screen resolution while overclocking the cpu is totally optional as it already has two powerful A15 cores) while at the same time undevolting. This helps tremendously with the overall performance of the device and other gripes associated with it.
Good luck with your decision! And if you get the chance, please post back and let us know what route you decide to take. We're more than happy to help with more questions that may arise.
Well I love my N10! The battery life isn't that bad. I can usually get close to 10 hours with apps that don't tax the gpu. The charging time does stink... 5 hours is too long. All in all, I've been enjoying mine since last May. Just buy an N7 for now to hold you over to the next 10 incher is released. Purchased one for my wife and she loves it.
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I would definitely buy again, no questions asked.
I don't know what everyone else's problems with the battery life are, I get 1.5-2 days worth of use with mine including leaving it on all night unplugged. Even if the battery life is a "problem" for some, just plug it in each night anyhow and you're good to go.
The screen is phenominal on this thing, the front facing speakers are great as well. There's also plenty of developer activity, and a somewhat minimal amount of people having issues with their devices. The two biggest weak points that people seem to have in terms of having to return it are screen light leak, and the battery occasionally going from ~20% suddenly to 0%. Both of which, are fixed easily by Samsung via a return.
Outside that, I still really like mine, so I say buy one. Especially if you're going to be paying $200 less than what I paid for mine ($499?)
No complaints on battery life from me. The high-res display is what sells this thing, and as an added bonus it has front-facing speakers and is super lightweight. My only complaint is the finicky Wifi; depending where I am in the house, the Wifi becomes dog slow despite a strong signal.
If you can find a good deal on Nexus 10, then yes it's a worthy purchase.
I just got the Nexus 10 as a gift yesterday. So far I am liking it. I have had a rooted nexus 7 32gb first gen since it came out and I love that one. I am trying to decide whether to root the nexus 10 or not. I am sure that the other roms are better for battery life than stock.
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Get a case with the magnet deal allowing it to sleep. Then set wireless to shut off when in sleep mode. This will help allot with battery life. I always charge mine when powered down (mostly overnight) that helps with charging speed some.
I have had the N10 awhile now, running ThunderKat 4.4.2 ROM and Kernel. No complaints here.
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I just got the Nexus 10 as a gift yesterday. So far I am liking it. I have had a rooted nexus 7 32gb first gen since it came out and I love that one. I am trying to decide whether to root the nexus 10 or not. I am sure that the other roms are better for battery life than stock.
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Root it add the recovery of your choice then install Viper4Android, Onandroid, Xposed framework and at least it's Gravity box module. All of which can be found by searching XDA.
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I have been a flash whore with the nexus 7 so I thought I knew what I was doing but what you just suggested to me I have not clue about the other stuff other than the recovery lol I will have to look it up and learn how to do all that.
Thanks.
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ObsoleteSoldier said:
Well I love my N10! The battery life isn't that bad. I can usually get close to 10 hours with apps that don't tax the gpu. The charging time does stink... 5 hours is too long. All in all, I've been enjoying mine since last May. Just buy an N7 for now to hold you over to the next 10 incher is released. Purchased one for my wife and she loves it.
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With PoGo charger it only takes 2 hours, they are really cheap too. Also charges while you use it as well.
I love this tablet. I'm starting to think some people have N10s that were shipped with lemon batteries or something, if I use it occasionally I can go 3-4 days before charging with about 6 hours screen on time. Today (NCAA tournament baby) I abused the tablet all day and still got over 18 hours with 7 hours of screen on time, and it's sitting here hovering around 15%. Virtually all of those 7 hours were with the brightness at about 50% streaming video. Having said that, I got mine in November 2012 and am pretty anal about charging habits. This IS my first tablet, so maybe I'm not expecting as much out of my battery as other users?
I don't think I'll be purchasing the 2014 Nexus 10 (if it ever arrives), the current gen is every thing I need from a tablet and more. I suppose there are now newer tablets with better specs, but would it affect the utility it provides me? I think not.
If you are a spec whore, don't get this tablet. If you are looking for a top notch tablet with decent development that is currently selling for a relatively cheap price tag, GET IT!
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I read that Google is dropping the 10" for a new 8".
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Go for it. Even though i have an android phone or a pc when i get to home my nexus 10 is the only device i use, except for texts and alarm If you know what you can expect from a tab and you consider buying a nexus 10 i can tell you wont regret.
3DSammy said:
Root it add the recovery of your choice then install Viper4Android, Onandroid, Xposed framework and at least it's Gravity box module. All of which can be found by searching XDA.
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Thanks for the post, will look into those two as been running pretty vanilla here for awhile.
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Lamski said:
I keep seeing these great deals on the Nexus 10. Although it's an old tablet it is well received and still seems to be among the best available. After deciding to wait for the new version, it keeps getting pushed back and who knows when it will actually be available? I think I may just go with the original N10 as my Asus TF300 is absolutely driving me nuts. It's nearly unusable at times... if it's doing any kind of app update or sync, forget it, it's unusable. I am rooted and on a custom ROM and still have issues. I was fed up and need a replacement now. Should I stick with the N10 or maybe look into some other tablets... Budget is around $300...
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If you're still interested, there's a seller on ebay that is listing a brand new 32GB N10 for $300: http://slickdeals.net/permadeal/116766/ebay---32gb-samsung-nexus-10-10-android-tablet
I've had N10 for 4 months, it goes alongside my N4 of 14 months and N7 of 20 months.
I use my N7 on long haul flights for space and battery reasons, N10 in hotels and home, N7 when really moving around a lot like on a bike and when going between meetings as it fits in a trouser pocket. My N4's with me all the time.
The N10's battery life really sucks, battery charging is slow, BUT I just use it in proportion to my other devices and I got the Pogo cable, when its not moving around its connected to the Pogo cable, that keeps on top of demand and I've NEVER had flat battery turn off problems. When I'm in situations with high mobility and not expecting much plug-in time I'm using my N7 which lasts longer and charges faster. N10 does say a trans-continent 5 hour flight fine but say California to Europe it can't but a N7 can with possibly an external USB slim battery top-up.
The N10 and N7 bluetooth tethering seamless flawless reliable to the N4 so I got phone and tablet online all the time when on the go.
The N10 absolutely best features are it's display 1st, outstanding, and then its speakers being stereo and forward facing so you can actually sit on your laptop or on desk, etc and sit and watch it would headphones and its just a pleasure.
My N10 crashes in certain situations, so I simply avoid those situations. Its camera doesn't work reliably for say Skype... so I use my N7 or N4 for that.
Just so long as you don't have too high an expectations, don't expect perfection, and use it in contexts which fits its limitations, then for the <$300 figure use it and enjoy. If you limit its use to contexts it should last enough years and betya you can replace its battery with a guide in a couple of years to re-life it if you wanted.
You can spend as much $ buying 1 device which aims to be better but 2 or 3 devices are better, particular as if say you're watching Hulu on you N10 and when annoying commercials (who needs a car anyway) come on just pick up your N7 and check your email, so "multi-window" by other means.
Notice how my N7 is coming to 2 years and still used? Because the big-screen graphics stuff is on the N10 and the battery-hog situations avoid the N10 and go to N7. I think that's the way to go. The idea of one perfect tablet never happens, plus it sucks if it breaks and its all you got.
I got one of these dual USB chargers and the Pogo cable makes all the difference.
Good stuff guys, thanks for all the great info. I did decide to get one as there was a good deal last week. however the 32GB model for $300 is a great deal and if I knew it was coming I would have waited one more week. I received it yesterday and so far so good. Everything I expected so far except the stock email client's hyperlinks aren't clickable. I had to switch to another email client app. I will look into the pogo plug but I'm not sure if I really need it.
I'm still playing with it but the performance so far is as expected and far exceeds the TF300 it is replacing.
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Good stuff guys, thanks for all the great info. I did decide to get one as there was a good deal last week. however the 32GB model for $300 is a great deal and if I knew it was coming I would have waited one more week. I received it yesterday and so far so good. Everything I expected so far except the stock email client's hyperlinks aren't clickable. I had to switch to another email client app. I will look into the pogo plug but I'm not sure if I really need it.
I'm still playing with it but the performance so far is as expected and far exceeds the TF300 it is replacing.
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How is the light bleed on your unit mate?
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How is the light bleed on your unit mate?
Cheers,
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I didn't notice any obnormal light bleed when playing with various brightness settings. Where are you typically seeing the light bleed?
Will Mediapad X1 7D-501L firmware, stuck/pause forever with 4.4.2??
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Will Mediapad X1 7D-501L firmware, stuck/pause forever with 4.4.2??
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Maybe... The latest Emotion UI is already 3.0 and thy didn't give to this one with the Kitkat update. If they do make a lollipop update for this one, The new version of this phone might be out. For their old Phablet the Ascend Mate 2 they have the emotion UI 2 update but They are still waiting for the Kitkat update. If only they are as the other companies to update their software Huawei would be bigger outside of China.
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Maybe... The latest Emotion UI is already 3.0 and thy didn't give to this one with the Kitkat update. If they do make a lollipop update for this one, The new version of this phone might be out. For their old Phablet the Ascend Mate 2 they have the emotion UI 2 update but They are still waiting for the Kitkat update. If only they are as the other companies to update their software Huawei would be bigger outside of China.
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That is why, I am afraid of buying Huawei phones.
I hope this X1 wont be stuck with 4.4.2 forever.
Other products like Sony n others, has a good firmware updates.
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That is why, I am afraid of buying Huawei phones.
I hope this X1 wont be stuck with 4.4.2 forever.
Other products like Sony n others, has a good firmware updates.
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I do hope they do make the update. for their customers and for their company. also their phones doesn't have NFC w/c i really would like to have. Their phones look nice and have good specs and price. but if they don't follow up with the regular updates of android or their own UI it may cause old Huawei owners to upgrade and buy new Huawei.
IMHO, software versions generally don't impact what you are able to do with the device from day 1.
A Gingerbread device will still let you install apps, make calls, use the camera, upload/download stuff, browse the internet etc.
You bought this device because of the hardware and what the hardware does, not because of the software version. My Note 3 is still on 4.3 from day 1 (1 year ago) with root and Xposed, and I'm completely satisfied with it.
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IMHO, software versions generally don't impact what you are able to do with the device from day 1.
A Gingerbread device will still let you install apps, make calls, use the camera, upload/download stuff, browse the internet etc.
You bought this device because of the hardware and what the hardware does, not because of the software version. My Note 3 is still on 4.3 from day 1 (1 year ago) with root and Xposed, and I'm completely satisfied with it.
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Actually, im still deciding what to buy so i did some research about the x1. if you don't mind me asking you sir. im stuck with the note 3 and this phone the x1. i know the note 3 would be future proof for about a year or two because of its high specs but i like the metal build, screen size and the fact that the x1 has no physical home button because i don't like it. also the price of the x1 here where i'm at is around 140orm and the note 3 has a discounted price of 200orm for the 32gb version. if you would pick one from the two, which would you rather have?
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Actually, im still deciding what to buy so i did some research about the x1. if you don't mind me asking you sir. im stuck with the note 3 and this phone the x1. i know the note 3 would be future proof for about a year or two because of its high specs but i like the metal build, screen size and the fact that the x1 has no physical home button because i don't like it. also the price of the x1 here where i'm at is around 140orm and the note 3 has a discounted price of 200orm for the 32gb version. if you would pick one from the two, which would you rather have?
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I have both. They serve different purposes.
The Note 3 for ease of portability and general browsing. The X1 is for media consumption and work email/VPN access to Microsoft Remote Desktop. That is why different screen sizes serve different purposes.
However, the X1 has better network reception than the Note3.
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Actually, im still deciding what to buy so i did some research about the x1. if you don't mind me asking you sir. im stuck with the note 3 and this phone the x1. i know the note 3 would be future proof for about a year or two because of its high specs but i like the metal build, screen size and the fact that the x1 has no physical home button because i don't like it. also the price of the x1 here where i'm at is around 140orm and the note 3 has a discounted price of 200orm for the 32gb version. if you would pick one from the two, which would you rather have?
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I too have both devices. I actually bought this one because I found the Note 3 screen a bit small for reading PDFs, browsing the web and watching videos. My initial intention was to sell the Note 3 but now I'm not so sure. My feelings on both phones, after a month with the MediaPad X1 and 9 month with the Note 3:
MediaPad X1:
+ The screen size is a joy to use with certain applications and to watch videos. It also allows me to use my thumbs to write on the keyboard in portrait mode. I type much faster this way.
+ Skin tones are rendered more naturally than on AMOLED screens.
+ Battery life. It lasts sooooo much longer than the Note 3.
+ Speaker. Very good sound quality.
- Size. This thing is HUGE. No, let me correct it: GIGANTIC is a more appropriate term. Its main advantage is also its main drawback. The only place it fits is on the back pocket of my jeans and it protrudes like 3-4 cm. Even coat pockets are small for this thing. It is also nearly impossible to answer call with only one hand.
- Poor screen uniformity and washed out blacks.
- Weight. It is noticeably heavier than the Note 3.
- Even tough it fits in my hand (barely), making long calls with it is uncomfortable.
- Support. Huawei's support is a joke and even here on XDA there is little support for this device. This device's user manual is pathetic. There are loads of functionalities that aren't addressed on the manual. The ROMs feel like a rush job with lots of rough edges.
- Only supports memory cards up to 32GB.
- Non removable battery
- No NFC
- On screen home buttons steal a lot of screen space
Note 3:
+ Still fits in my pockets.
+ Blacks are as deep as they get, the screen has perfect uniformity and AMOLED's oversaturated colors are great for games and apps.
+ Support, both from Samsung and here on XDA.
+ Better hardware, better stock ROMs and availability of custom ROMs (if you are into them, which I'm not).
+ Supports cards up to 128 GB
+ Removable battery
+ NFC
+ S-pen (not a deal breaker for me, but it is nice to have)
+ Physical home buttons mean that every single pixel of the screen is used at all times with all applications.
- The screen size is big for a phone but a bit small for certain applications. 6.3" would be a great compromise between the gigantic Mediapad X1 and the not so big Note 3. I owned the Mega 6.3 for a short period and it was just the right compromise. Shame Samgung discontinued it.
- Skin tones are oversaturated and unrealistic, even in Movie, Professional photo (LOL!) or any other display mode meant to desaturate the colors.
- Battery life is O.K. for its class but pales in comparison with the MediaPad X1.
- Better camera
Right now I still haven't decided which one I'll keep but I'll have to make a decision until next week. Whatever I decide, it will be a compromise. The day Samsung makes a Galaxy Note phablet with 6.3" screen and razor thin bezels, I'll have my perfect phone. Until then, I have to make a compromise.
Alexei,
The X1 is not gigantic. It is way smaller than the Nexus 7 and it DOES fit into my work pants front pockets. It even fits in the breast pocket of some of my shirts.
If you want to make long calls, for any phone, the best thing is to sit down compfortably and use a headset whether wired or bluetooth. I participate in hour-long conference calls often, and I have always used a headset. It's bad ergonomics if you don't.
SDcard support - definitely 64Gb is usable in FAT32 format, and I'm sure 128Gb in FAT32 is also usable. I am using a 64Gb card in my X1.
Color reproduction - I don't think you will be looking at a movie that has lots of black in it for most of the movie. Even if you were to be reading comics or black and white manga, most of the screen is white background anyway.
The onscreen buttons in 4.4.2 tend to autohide in media and game playback, so it's not an issue.
As for the rest, I do agree, but I'm not one that chanes devices often, so I'll definitely keep it till the next big thing comes along. *NOT* crapple of course.
Hi joytest,
joytest said:
The X1 is not gigantic. It is way smaller than the Nexus 7 and it DOES fit into my work pants front pockets. It even fits in the breast pocket of some of my shirts..
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When I meant "gigantic", I was making a comparison with phablet class devices. Of course that if you compare to 7" tablets, the X1 is actually much smaller than the competition. Being big or small will depend from user to user. I'm not a short person but I'm far from being tall or having big hands. My advice to any potential buyer is to try it and decide for themselves.
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If you want to make long calls, for any phone, the best thing is to sit down compfortably and use a headset whether wired or bluetooth. I participate in hour-long conference calls often, and I have always used a headset. It's bad ergonomics if you don't.
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I agree. However, it would be something else to carry in my already filled pockets. At home I use a headset, but on the move I use it with any headset, wired or BT. Again, one should access your his typical uses of the phone.
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SDcard support - definitely 64Gb is usable in FAT32 format, and I'm sure 128Gb in FAT32 is also usable. I am using a 64Gb card in my X1.
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I tried a 64 GB Sandisk Ultra card and the device didn't recognize it. When I inserted a 32 GB card, also a Sandisk Ultra, it was immediately recognized. Both where formatted in FAT32. Which card are you using? I would love to have 64 GB on my X1.
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Color reproduction - I don't think you will be looking at a movie that has lots of black in it for most of the movie. Even if you were to be reading comics or black and white manga, most of the screen is white background anyway.
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I tend to agree with you when you say that most of the times it will not be an issue. However, the difference does exist. My X1 has notorious light bleed around the edges. It is very noticeable with a uniform black screen background. Is my device faulty? How does yours behave?
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The onscreen buttons in 4.4.2 tend to autohide in media and game playback, so it's not an issue..
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Not in media and game playback but you have to hide them manually in all other applications, which I find annoying.
Cheers,
Alex
for 64GB card u can try format first to fat32 at yr PC using mini partition after that format again using yr x1.it work for me .
Update: I've finally made a decision. I'm keeping my Note 3 and selling my MediaPad X1. As much as I love the long battery life and the big screen, it is just no practical to use all day long as a phone. I could live with its other flaws but I'm tired of feeling something this heavy in my pocket, of its cumbersome use for calls and feeling like I'm carrying a small brick in my pants in general. It is a great device if this doesn't bother you.
I'm moving back to the Note 3 forums. To all you gentlemen who I've interacted with in this forum, my best regards.
Good for you. As amazing a device this is, it is not for everyone. I routinely flip between this and other smaller flagship phones but this phone always trumps for battery life and screen size. With a smart watch and headset it is manageable but sometimes I long for a normal 5" or so smartphone in my pocket. Cheers.
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Hi Guys, Does anyone still have the link for this firmware?
Thanks
Hi, I am thinking of getting a Nexus 9 from http://www.ebay.com/itm/HTC-Nexus-9-LTE-32GB-Black-Wi-Fi-4G-8-9-IPS-1536-x-2048-pixels-2GB-RAM-/221664596324.
Seems like a crazy deal to me, more than $200 off the price on Google's website.
So, do you recommend buying the N9, a one year old device ? I currently use an iPad 4 and it's quite big and heavy and I've been looking for a replacement. Tried the Galaxy Tab S2 8.0 but didn't like it so I returned it. My iPad is too slow for me especially with iOS 9 and it still has a 32-bit processor. So I seriously want to upgrade.
If I buy a N9, I would be rooting/ flashing kernels, recoveries, mods, ROMS, etc.
So what do you guys recommend ? Which tablet should I buy ?
I love the size, the front facing speakers and the 4:3 aspect ratio. However, if you can't deal with major lag which happens randomly and often then don't buy it.
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That being said when it's running fine it's a delight to use
yes i would recommend it
I would too, but I am also thinking of eventually getting a used Pixel C because it more open, AFIACT. Here is a quote from here
Yes, the Pixel C will be supported on AOSP just like other Nexus devices. The bootloader can be unlocked to enable booting an alternate OS. Pixel C does not support Chromebook style recovery via USB. The firmware is open source. It is Coreboot. DisplayPort support over Type C is being worked on but we don't have a release date yet.
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Open-source firmware!
Does the N9 lag even with such a powerful processor ? Should I just wait for the iPad Air 3 ?
Also, I've heard about issues like a flimsy back, light bleed, etc. Is this true and is there a chance I may receive a defective piece from the seller ? Are Nexus 9s which were manufactured in 2015 alright ?
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Does the N9 lag even with such a powerful processor ? Should I just wait for the iPad Air 3 ?
Also, I've heard about issues like a flimsy back, light bleed, etc. Is this true and is there a chance I may receive a defective piece from the seller ? Are Nexus 9s which were manufactured in 2015 alright ?
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I got a used 32Gb from Amazon for 250 with minimal lightbleed with a dec.2014 build date. Honestly, I have forgotten my other OCD complaints because they, like the light-bleed, are acceptable. Oh right, the flimsy back, it is just a half a millimeter of between the back cover and the internals. It is not perfect, but I only notice it when I am trying to find it.
My Nexus performs great, but I am a minimalist. Some people simultaneously run Facebook, YouTube, chat, music, bluetooth, Chrome, etc and get poor results, which could be the user expecting too much, or the device being a POS, I dunno. It is faster than my Nexus 7 2012, lol...
I just went through 6 of my active Chrome tabs and had no reloads. The 7th reloaded, but that tab was inactive for a few hours, so I think that is fine. I even have the zram (compressed swap) disabled, giving me less available memory.
If you want to hate the Nexus, you can. If you want to love it, you can.
I would recommend it. That's a great price! If you find you don't love it, you could always sell it and buy the iPad. I bought mine about 2 months ago, 2015 model, no lightbleed. I am a heavy user so I will have multiple apps running, I don't usually notice it slowing until the battery gets low, say 25% or so.
Since you already asked about root and ROMs, I wouldn't say it's necessary, but it does help with performance and battery life significantly.
If you are on a strict budget then yea sure its good for 200 or 250 but if you have a little more money I would either wait or get the tab s2 , I bought both on black Friday and I love nexus devices , have had every nexus made since the Samsung Galaxy Nexus s. I assumed I would be keeping the nexus 9 and returning the samsung cause I don't like the power button or touchwiz on Samsung devices but after using both the lag on the nexus nine is very very noticeable, particularly when switching between apps. It's build quality is poop in comparison.
Thanks for everything guys !
I bought a Galaxy Tab S2 8 inch on release day and somehow I wasn't happy so I returned it after a week. - @dislplin01
I've decided I don't need LTE since I will almost never be using it. How about the deal below :
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Nexus-9-32GB-Wi-Fi-8-9in-Lunar-White-Latest-Model-/121835686666?hash=item1c5df90b0a:g:dnIAAOSwAKxWZyws
A used 32GB WiFi only White Nexus 9 for $270
Serial number is HT4C as seen from the pic from the listing.
The seller also posted an image of the boot screen, says no dents or chips on the device but has scratches on the back.
Does this seem to have ANY lightbleed at all ? (Pic Attached).
Thanks.
Looks good just like mine, I don't see lightbleed.
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Trix123 said:
Thanks for everything guys !
I bought a Galaxy Tab S2 8 inch on release day and somehow I wasn't happy so I returned it after a week. - @dislplin01
I've decided I don't need LTE since I will almost never be using it. How about the deal below :
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Nexus-9-32GB-Wi-Fi-8-9in-Lunar-White-Latest-Model-/121835686666?hash=item1c5df90b0a:g:dnIAAOSwAKxWZyws
A used 32GB WiFi only White Nexus 9 for $270
Serial number is HT4C as seen from the pic from the listing.
The seller also posted an image of the boot screen, says no dents or chips on the device but has scratches on the back.
Does this seem to have ANY lightbleed at all ? (Pic Attached).
Thanks.
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HTC has done a couple of 40% discount specials. You might try to be a little patient. I got a brand new 16gb for US$239.40 for black friday directly from HTC's website. According to the serial number, mine is from november 2015 and i don't have any light bleed at all. I did found that it was charging way too slow, but anyway i flashed the same day pure nexus with fire-ice kernel and it started to charge really fast with an anker charger (just over 3 hours)... everything is going really smooth with minimal lag in a couple of apps, just like my nexus 5. Pretty happy with it so far.
The only things i'm not happy with is the screen ratio, and the buttons. I don't know why my ipad 2 youtube's app filled the entire screen but this one keeps the black bars, and both have the same ratio. With the buttons i don't have any problems since I configured double tap to sleep and to wake, I just use the volume buttons and they work just fine, but i still don't like them lol.
You have already seemed to purchase it. I would recommend it in general only if you can get a good deal on it. I got a lightly used one for 210 dollars, black 32gig wifi with the smart cover (I replaced it with a proper case) and a microsoft portable bluetooth keyboard that normally retails for 70 bucks. It was such an insane deal, I couldn't ignore it.
The IN APP performance is great. On chrome, websites load quickly. The issue comes from how the tablet handles ram. If you have multiple tabs open, you can expect those earlier tabs to refresh when you go back to them. The same kind of thing happens to multi-tasking apps. Try to go back to an app you were using 3 or 4 applications ago, and it will reload entirely as if it was never even opened. This in mind, you have to keep track of what you have open in the background. I don't think I've ever had anything forse closed or forcefully cleared from memory yet (like a music app that gets shut down because too much ram is being used), but I can imagine this being the case if you've got too many concurrent applications all fighting for memory.
tl:dr I don't have any kind of bad performance while in an app, but I do note occasional lag and skips when jumping from app to app, or jumping from app to home screen (and vice versa). The Nexus 6p really kind of spoils your expectations for all android devices, I guess.
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HTC has done a couple of 40% discount specials. You might try to be a little patient. I got a brand new 16gb for US$239.40 for black friday directly from HTC's website. According to the serial number, mine is from november 2015 and i don't have any light bleed at all. I did found that it was charging way too slow, but anyway i flashed the same day pure nexus with fire-ice kernel and it started to charge really fast with an anker charger (just over 3 hours)... everything is going really smooth with minimal lag in a couple of apps, just like my nexus 5. Pretty happy with it so far.
The only things i'm not happy with is the screen ratio, and the buttons. I don't know why my ipad 2 youtube's app filled the entire screen but this one keeps the black bars, and both have the same ratio. With the buttons i don't have any problems since I configured double tap to sleep and to wake, I just use the volume buttons and they work just fine, but i still don't like them lol.
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I bought one Friday from HTC. Still 40% off, free 2 day shipping, and a $50 credit toward accessories next week. Have to use the link from SlickDeals to get the discount. https://goo.gl/uoyFse
I owned a G2 from August 14 to Feb 15. I enjoyed it but mainly ran custom roms. Now after 2 years and lots of other phones I have another G2 in my life. So some thoughts on it:
The screen is still good even in the era of 2k AMOLED.
It still sets a high bar for screen to bezel ratio. It is a lot more compact than my Honor 8 that has the same size screen.
I flashed the latest Lollipop stock ROM and it runs fine. The SD800 was a fine SoC and it can handle most things.
However the black G2 is still a shiny sweaty fingerprint magnet. It doesn't feel premium in anyway.
Should I keep it? I think I might as it is a decent spare phone to have kicking about.
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Sounds like the only thing you dont like is the "fingerprint magnet". If it bothers you that much then sure change it.
I've had mine since 2014 and im keeping it. Still enjoying its performance, battery life, features (double tap to wake/sleep & rear keys) and overall size.
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Sounds like the only thing you dont like is the "fingerprint magnet". If it bothers you that much then sure change it.
I've had mine since 2014 and im keeping it. Still enjoying its performance, battery life, features (double tap to wake/sleep & rear keys) and overall size.
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The one thing I miss from a "modern" phone is a fingerprint sensor. I love the back buttons though, I enjoyed them in the G3 G4 as well
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I had a g2 for about and year and broke it's screen and sold it broken. I tried other phones after that mainly xiaomi's and they were great, but 2 weeks ago I found a cheap G2 that was in new condition and for 70$ I bought it. After so many phones this one is my favourite and was always my favourite. It is a very good phone and is as good as the mid ranged phones from these days.
The only thing that it will need is a new battery and is good to go. Even tho it is a 3 year old phone I can get through the day with one charge and 3 h SOT mid usage.
With a new battery it will be at least 25% better. I love this phone and for the price you can't get anything near it
I keep using it over 3 years. I replaced the battery with a no brand name. I could keep it till its death, if there was an option to add a sdcard. It doesn't obviously, so I will substitute it, till I have free space no more.
If possible : I wish it was possible to replace the sim slot with a hybrid slot. This kind of mod would give at least another year of life to this phone, by adding a sdcard storage.
I've been using this model since it's release date and its still super solid. I've gone through 2 G2 and its so nice because they are only around $100 to replace them if I need to for whatever reason. good battery life and screen are still great on this phone. running apps and general browsing doesn't really feel much slower than other phones.
The only thing is the 32gb onboard memory runs out quick and no sd card. What i did to get around is have a otg usb key chain to keep extra files on if I need it. not the most elegant solution but the usb drive is so small its barely protrudes from the phone when plugged in. I replaced the battery and SOT times are 4+ hours no problem.
I will keep this phone for a long while or until maybe SD 900 platform comes around. I've also become used to the back buttons and I wish other phones would have it as well.
I love this phone so much that I actually own 4 of them. My wife and I have them and I bought two spares that I use to play with (custom ROMs and theme testing) and as backups in case either of ours break. The only thing that will drive me away from this phone is when new ROM support stops. If it ever gets to the point where developer stop supporting the device, then I will move on. Until then, it's G2 for me.
This is a good phone for the money.
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