What should be the optimum phone temperature while fast charging? - LG G5 Questions & Answers

My g5 gets pretty hot(40-45°C/104-113° F) while fast charging with QC 3.0 charger,is this normal or am I just being paranoid?

I think if android gets to hot it automatically shuts down at 150 f I think? 70-90 seems like the normal temp maybe more or less depending on what your doing. I would imagine it be on the higher side while charging. What app you use to monitor temp of phone while charging? I will test mine and report back results.

zee360 said:
My g5 gets pretty hot(40-45°C/104-113° F) while fast charging with QC 3.0 charger,is this normal or am I just being paranoid?
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That sounds normal if you have the display on or have a demandingly busy/weak WiFi/LTE signal while charging.
Also note you will get throttled charging speed the warmer it gets - the system has several monitors on-board to protect from getting too hot. You can see what the system settings for temperatures are in root > system > etc > thermal-engine-8996.conf.
I attached a screenshot of some relevant settings from that file. The thresholds are degrees Celsius; you only get optimum charging speed with display off and temperatures below 42 °C. (Always-On Display setting doesn't seem to affect the "LCD-On-Monitor" for this purpose.) Temperatures 45°C and below are equivalent to 1 amp charging - slower but still decent. Any higher and significantly slow throttling occurs.
As a side note, you can physically verify this kind of info with an in-line "USB power monitor" device. It sits between your charger and cable and displays the volts and amps for you. Usually costs $10-$20 USD. Make sure it supports at least 9 volts and 4 amps to monitor QC 3.0. (Mine has a range of 3-20V and 0-4A.) Handy for figuring out if your charger or cables may be faulty and verifying charge rates.

Nick216ohio said:
I think if android gets to hot it automatically shuts down at 150 f I think? 70-90 seems like the normal temp maybe more or less depending on what your doing. I would imagine it be on the higher side while charging. What app you use to monitor temp of phone while charging? I will test mine and report back results.
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you can improve the temperatures if you tear down the phone and apply mx4 in the cpu and ram, 10/15c of improvement at least. the g5 have ****y thermal pad, and cooling sistem.

Nick216ohio said:
I think if android gets to hot it automatically shuts down at 150 f I think? 70-90 seems like the normal temp maybe more or less depending on what your doing. I would imagine it be on the higher side while charging. What app you use to monitor temp of phone while charging? I will test mine and report back results.
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Sorry for late reply,I am using accu battery which shows complete statistics.Anyway can you please tell me whether it will cause damage or not to my phone? Touching the phone while it's charging and screened off feels really hot.

PhantasmRezound said:
That sounds normal if you have the display on or have a demandingly busy/weak WiFi/LTE signal while charging.
Also note you will get throttled charging speed the warmer it gets - the system has several monitors on-board to protect from getting too hot. You can see what the system settings for temperatures are in root > system > etc > thermal-engine-8996.conf.
I attached a screenshot of some relevant settings from that file. The thresholds are degrees Celsius; you only get optimum charging speed with display off and temperatures below 42 °C. (Always-On Display setting doesn't seem to affect the "LCD-On-Monitor" for this purpose.) Temperatures 45°C and below are equivalent to 1 amp charging - slower but still decent. Any higher and significantly slow throttling occurs.
As a side note, you can physically verify this kind of info with an in-line "USB power monitor" device. It sits between your charger and cable and displays the volts and amps for you. Usually costs $10-$20 USD. Make sure it supports at least 9 volts and 4 amps to monitor QC 3.0. (Mine has a range of 3-20V and 0-4A.) Handy for figuring out if your charger or cables may be faulty and verifying charge rates.
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My screen is off and its averagely arround 42-43°C but it's still charging at maximum speed i.e around 2900 mA and could you please tell me that all those temperature monitors which show live temperature are showing CPU or battery temperature? Because if it's battery it's written that the temperature shouldn't go above 40 and since it's going,wouldn't that be dangerous?

zee360 said:
My screen is off and its averagely arround 42-43°C but it's still charging at maximum speed i.e around 2900 mA and could you please tell me that all those temperature monitors which show live temperature are showing CPU or battery temperature? Because if it's battery it's written that the temperature shouldn't go above 40 and since it's going,wouldn't that be dangerous?
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"Li ion batteries offer reasonably good charging performance at cooler temperatures and allow fast-charging in a temperature bandwidth of 5 to 45°C (41 to 113°F)." The battery can charge between 0 and 5°C and above 45°C but it will be reduced speed.
The discharge temperature range is "–20°C to 60°C (–4°F to 140°F)"
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/charging_at_high_and_low_temperatures
Anecdotally I've had my HTC Rezound battery abused many times with charging (slowly) at or above 45°C. One night I even had it around 65°C when I fell asleep with it on a faulty charger *and* thermal safety on the OS disabled. After many cycles and abuses it had a very slight bulge and maybe 50% original capacity. Needless to say I bought a new battery, but it shows the limits in a proper li-ion are well above the charging/discharging temperatures.
You should only worry about performance degradation above 45°C and not approaching anything "dangerous" until perhaps north of 60°C.
I'm charging my G5 right now and using AccuBattery app as well, first couple of minutes I'm at 34% and 40°C with screen off which is in line with your results. I'd call it warm but not alarmingly hot. I'll test more charges on G5 by tomorrow.

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[Q] ? about Imoseyon lean kernel

I'm running Liquid Smooth 3.2 with Imoseyon Lean 6.2.1 kernel. I also tried to activate the speed tweaks included (?) but it didn't work so I downloaded speed tweaks 7.1 from Imoseyon's website and flashed it.
This is my problem.. I understand that with this kernel USB fast charging works unless the battery temp gets too high, then it shuts off and I assume goes back to standard charging. I've been using the kernel for about six hours and the battery temp has been in the low to mid thirties mostly, so that's great.. But my voltage has gotten up slightly over 4200 a couple of times and that has driven the battery temp up, but not much. I use a battery monitor widget that sounds an alarm if the temp or voltage get outside of my defined ranges.
What I would like to know whether there is a way to keep the voltage in a safer range when the phone is fast charging? I think if the fast charge could be stopped when the voltage is above 4200 or below 3000 like it is when the battery temp gets too high would be a great feature, and it would ease my mind that the voltage won't spike to 4300 or 4400 and blow up while I'm sleeping at night (if I happen to not hear battery monitor alarm).
If that's just the way it is with the voltage spikes, does anyone maybe know of a kernel/rom combo that safely allows fast charging by keeping the battery temp and voltage in recommended ranges or by shutting fast charge off if the temp/voltage suddenly spike while on the charger?
Thanks for reading/considering my question.
I'm not 100% sure but isn't the reason fast changing works is because it bumps up he voltage. Wouldn't lowering it make it not charge as fast.
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Not sure
I looked at my battery history and I think you're right. The voltage has spiked quickly and then steadily climbed past 4200, but the charge in that time frame is like 60+ percent so it's worth it I guess. Figure I'm hurting the battery, but for now it's worth it. I I may get an iphone 5 if the features are right.
I guess I'll just have to find a toggle so I can leave it on the charger at night and not have to worry about it catching fire. Just out of curiosity, does anyone know about how long a lithium battery can charge above 4200 or below 3000 before it blows up?
Also, this is my first phone with a 4.3 inch screen.. Do all big display phones suffer from terrible battery life? I keep my brightness down to about 20% indoors, but I generally keep 4g on because 3g tends to drop the signal and I play Pokerist a lot at work. Don't like getting kicked off and having to sign back in when I'm all in in a hand. I guess it also could be that the game is taxing the processor and in combination with 4g wrecking my battery life.. Mainly though, and on a custom rom without a fast usb charging feature, I couldn't play and charge at the same time, the phone would just barely stay at the percentage it was at. My last question is, does anyone know of a phone with a large display and 4g that doesn't drain the battery as quickly as Thunderbolt, or that at least charges fairly fast while using phone without having to flash a fast usb charging kernel?
edit: I can't find an app or widget that will allow me to toggle between normal charging and fast usb charging.. Anyone know of one for Thunderbolt?
Most of the new 4G phones with the 4.3 inch screen suffer from batter drain. The razr maxx is the best stock phone for battery right now but the phones just aren't built well. I think the newer phones are getting better so I would wait a little while longer and see what is coming out soon. The battery issue won't be a problem forever and neither will the crappy data drops.
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The spike in voltage and temperature is a NORMAL behavior of this type of battery and the charging technology it uses. As a Li-on battery discharges, it's voltage drops very little for it's corresponding level of charge (Very useful in small electronics that require excellent power consistency.). As the battery nears fully discharged, the voltage begins to drop sharply as does the resistance of the battery. Shortly after that, the internal temperature rises. You are now damaging your battery to further discharge it. You're phone won't let you do this. Likewise, it won't allow you to overcharge it. A Li-on battery is determined to be fully charged when the voltage output begins to rise sharply over the nominal charge rate. The internal resistance of the battery will rise sharply as well. The you'll notice temperature rise. Depending upon other conditions, a significant rise in cell temperature doesn't necessarily indicate a charged battery. If the resistance and voltage are consistent, the battery isn't fully charged but rather exhibiting the normal rise in temperature as resistance rises. You'd be pretty shocked how hot it really has to get before the phone will simply shut itself off and refuse to power up for half an hour or more to avoid actually damaging the battery due to thermal stress. Think hot, dark stone sitting in the hot sun all day long. And that cut-off, as far as I know, is below what the battery is actually rated for.
You're HTC device uses neither voltage, resistance, nor temperature independently to determine a charged or discharged state. That is calculated through compiled statistics based upon load, voltage output, resistance, and temperature. Li-on is a very well understood technology. The ONLY way to obtain the life and performance from these batteries that they do is to have fairly advanced charging and monitoring technology. It's really pretty hard to destroy a phone or it's battery strictly through heat generated by charging (assuming all parts meet spec.). In fact, it's hard to even if the phone is sitting on a heating vent or under the hot sunlight.
Unless you're device is some brutally overclocked, customized to the gills monster of a device, narrowly switching transistors at ridiculous speeds with precious few electrons to spare, you're pretty hard pressed to damage your battery or your phone. The stuff that manages the battery is beyond what kernels and ROMs do. You can definitely do some meaningful damage to a battery messing with charge characteristics, however catastrophic failure is practically impossible.

[KENZO][QUESTION] Battery charging rate

I received my RN3SD 3gb yesterday. I was testing the charging rate today because I felt that it was charging slower today than yesterday. I used the program Ampere to check the charging rate. Market link is:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...lay&pcampaignid=APPU_1_aYcvV5ziJMG0uATH1YSoBw
Well, in getting around 1000 mAh on an average with a max of 1300 mAh and lowest of 230 mAh.
I read somewhere that the charging rate should be around 1900 mAh. I would appreciate if I got feedback as to what the normal charging rate is for you guys (ideally, checked in the same app). And please let me know if I should be using a different app. Thanks.
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Yes u r right, i m getting 1900 mah with 16 gb model ,ampere app is ok. Maybe try factory reset
Ampere showing 1.9k mA to 2k mA here.try check your cable and charger.
How that matter and what doest it affect ? Its about charging time or battery life ?
I'm gettgin 1550mAh
What was the battery percentage when you opened Ampere? When it's getting up to like 90 % the current goes down.
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What was the battery percentage when you opened Ampere? When it's getting up to like 90 % the current goes down.
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When I opened Ampere the reading always varies. Sometimes is 490 sometimes 1150, the highest I've got is 1650. The charging cable and the charger are brand new. Even tried charging from a USB power bank, got about 500mah. What can be the reason for this slow charging. These are all values foe when charge is less than 90%. What can be the reason?
Depends on what powerbank you have. Most don't support high charging rates, (although there are some more powerful ones from xiaomi and lenovo on the low end market).
On another note,
I am wondering about the maximum Voltage and Amp we can charge with safely? i tried 3 differennt ones; 5v 0.3A, 5v 1.2A and 5.2V 2A. All seem to work fine, with the last one i got about 10% per 10 min with a value of around 2100 Mahor higher , but i am not sure if this is a safe way to charge the device?
Does anyone know what is the maximum safe charging value?
V-incent said:
Depends on what powerbank you have. Most don't support high charging rates, (although there are some more powerful ones from xiaomi and lenovo on the low end market).
On another note,
I am wondering about the maximum Voltage and Amp we can charge with safely? i tried 3 differennt ones; 5v 0.3A, 5v 1.2A and 5.2V 2A. All seem to work fine, with the last one i got about 10% per 10 min with a value of around 2100 Mahor higher , but i am not sure if this is a safe way to charge the device?
Does anyone know what is the maximum safe charging value?
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There are regulators inside the phone that step down the voltage to charge the battery, i think it's a 4.35v cell but the phone will regulate the charge. So long as the USB voltage is within spec it's fine, many chargers have 5.1 or 5.2 volts to combat voltage drop with higher current over long leads or leads with small conductors.
mine about 1.900 mA

Battery charging at 4,300mV is healthy?

Charging the poco fone using the bundled charger charges at around 4,300 mV. Is it healthy for the phone battery?? I use accubattery app and it shows this voltage in red colour, which makes me concerning about the longetivity of the battery life...
POCO F1 supports Quick Charge 3.0 featuring INOV (Intelligent Negotiation for Optimum Voltage), which allows for a fined tuned power output and a more optimized charging cycle.
INOV has the added benefit of being able to dynamically adjust the charging voltage over the battery charging cycle. As a battery charges up, it slowly draws less and less current, which is partly why it takes longer to charge the last 20 percent than the first. Qualcomm states that its new technology allows the phone to request just enough voltage to reach the desired charge current, thereby maximising efficiency.
This is useful as it reduces the amount of energy wasted during charging. Previously, extra power not used to charge the battery would be lost as heat, warming up your phone and reducing the longevity of the battery. By exerting more control over charging efficiency, less power is wasted, resulting in less heat.
Read more about Quick Charge 3.0
Ruvy said:
POCO F1 supports Quick Charge 3.0 featuring INOV (Intelligent Negotiation for Optimum Voltage), which allows for a fined tuned power output and a more optimized charging cycle.
INOV has the added benefit of being able to dynamically adjust the charging voltage over the battery charging cycle. As a battery charges up, it slowly draws less and less current, which is partly why it takes longer to charge the last 20 percent than the first. Qualcomm states that its new technology allows the phone to request just enough voltage to reach the desired charge current, thereby maximising efficiency.
This is useful as it reduces the amount of energy wasted during charging. Previously, extra power not used to charge the battery would be lost as heat, warming up your phone and reducing the longevity of the battery. By exerting more control over charging efficiency, less power is wasted, resulting in less heat.
Read more about Quick Charge 3.0
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Thanks. But Qualcomm doesn't say anything about the health of the battery.i have observed the phone during charge Cycles. It charges at higher voltage and slightly warm. But I'm concerned about the li-po battery longetivity. I would even switch to a 5v- 2Amp charger to increase the Life Span of my device as it takes around 30 - 40 minutes more which isn't a much difference as I have that much time to charge unless necessary...
poco f1 battery accu battery
bluei said:
Charging the poco fone using the bundled charger charges at around 4,300 mV. Is it healthy for the phone battery?? I use accubattery app and it shows this voltage in red colour, which makes me concerning about the longetivity of the battery life...
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i used the accu battery and it shows the estimate capacity 91 percent in 30 session , can u share your stat pliz ,
its only been 4 month with poco f1 and the battery degrades so badly
bluei said:
Thanks. But Qualcomm doesn't say anything about the health of the battery.i have observed the phone during charge Cycles. It charges at higher voltage and slightly warm. But I'm concerned about the li-po battery longetivity. I would even switch to a 5v- 2Amp charger to increase the Life Span of my device as it takes around 30 - 40 minutes more which isn't a much difference as I have that much time to charge unless necessary...
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Charging slowly the battery does not means that you are increasing lifespan of the battery. Charging slowly means high temperature for longer time = Less lifespan. I suggest to use a QC4+. It keeps temperature lower than every other charger. I'm using it since 3 months and temperature on charge is ~30-32 degrees on idle and ~36 while using it
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Charging slowly the battery does not means that you are increasing lifespan of the battery. Charging slowly means high temperature for longer time = Less lifespan. I suggest to use a QC4+. It keeps temperature lower than every other charger. I'm using it since 3 months and temperature on charge is ~30-32 degrees on idle and ~36 while using it
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but unfortunately QC4 is not available in india

Question What affects charging time

Hi
Just bought a GT Neo 2 but didn't get the Realme 65W charger. I do have a Samsung EP-'T4510 USB-C Quick Charger 45W + USB-C Cable.
It's obviously not going to charge the phone as fast as an original 65W charger does but it's not charging as fast as I'd expect. Plugged it in earlier at 49% and it was at 91% 40 minutes later.
So what affects charging time?
Charging set up as follows:
1) Using extension lead
2) Using adapter to convert 2 pin EU charger to UK 3 pin
3) Samsung T4510 (45W) and the cable that came with the T4510
Do the extension lead or adapter affect charging time? Also does the cable affect it? Do fast chargers have to be used with a specific type of cable?
The charger/cable has to support the charging protocol of the phone or it will only slow charge.
Best to use a OEM brick/cable no longer than 3 feet.
Battery temperature needs to be high enough at beginning of the charging cycle for fast charging to engage. Minimum 72F, but 82-90F is best.
Fast charging may engage below 72F but Li plating becomes likely. Below about 55F fast charging will likely be disabled.
Above about 103F or about 80% capacity fast charging with be ramped down or disabled.
If screen is on, fast charging is disabled.
A battery fault will also disable it or cause erratic fast charging ie a battery failure.
blackhawk said:
The charger/cable has to support the charging protocol of the phone or it will only slow charge.
Best to use a OEM brick/cable no longer than 3 feet.
Battery temperature needs to be high enough at beginning of the charging cycle for fast charging to engage. Minimum 72F, but 82-90F is best.
Fast charging may engage below 72F but Li plating becomes likely. Below about 55F fast charging will likely be disabled.
Above about 103F or about 80% capacity fast charging with be ramped down or disabled.
If screen is on, fast charging is disabled.
A battery fault will also disable it or cause erratic fast charging ie a battery failure.
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Thanks for that.
G1032 said:
Thanks for that.
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Sorry @blackhawk
One more question if you don't mind. Will charging the GT Neo 2 with the Samsung charger damage or reduce the lifespan of the Realme battery?
G1032 said:
Sorry @blackhawk
One more question if you don't mind. Will charging the GT Neo 2 with the Samsung charger damage or reduce the lifespan of the Realme battery?
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Fast charging produces more heat therefore will reduce the lifespan somewhat.
On my heavily used Note 10+ I now replace the battery every year or so to help prevent a battery failure, routine maintenance.
The charging curve is controlled by the phone not the charger. The charging curve should be near identical if both bricks supple the required peak voltage/amps and the phone power controller can communicate with the brick.
Thank you kindly. Much appreciated.
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Thank you kindly. Much appreciated.
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You're welcome. Play with it to see how it works.
Start the charge at about the same temperature then time how long it takes to gain 1 or 2% without turning on the main display. Watch when it ramps down during the charge cycle. It will vary but I see 2%@minute sometimes a little faster at the peak fast charging rate on the N10+.
To extent battery life limit discharge to 30% and top charge to 80%. Li's like frequent midrange power cycling; it extents their totals full charge cycles many fold. A 40-67% usage range is near ideal. Limit the current draw; higher current usage stresses the battery more as does back to back discharge/recharge etc cycles with no rest period.
That's one reason it's just easier to replace the battery. When an Li reaches 80% of its original capacity it's considered degraded and has reached the end of its useful service life. It should be replaced. Degraded Li's are more likely to fail which can seriously damage the device.
Any battery swelling is a failure, replace immediately.
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You're welcome. Play with it to see how it works.
Start the charge at about the same temperature then time how long it takes to gain 1 or 2% without turning on the main display. Watch when it ramps down during the charge cycle. It will vary but I see 2%@minute sometimes a little faster at the peak fast charging rate on the N10+.
To extent battery life limit discharge to 30% and top charge to 80%. Li's like frequent midrange power cycling; it extents their totals full charge cycles many fold. A 40-67% usage range is near ideal. Limit the current draw; higher current usage stresses the battery more as does back to back discharge/recharge etc cycles with no rest period.
That's one reason it's just easier to replace the battery. When an Li reaches 80% of its original capacity it's considered degraded and has reached the end of its useful service life. It should be replaced. Degraded Li's are more likely to fail which can seriously damage the device.
Any battery swelling is a failure, replace immediately.
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That's all very interesting. I have often read about the 30 - 80 range. I used to own a Huawei P9 and always charged to 100 and that battery didn't last more than 2 years. Last phone was an A70 and that'll be 3 years old in June. Started getting random reboots recently and a quick Google said that's most likely down to the beginning of a battery failure. So just got this GT Neo "as new". It was obviously sent back to the online store by original purchaser minus the charger (replaced with a 5V 2.1A charger. Store had no OEM charger listed on site for sale so I agreed to take a the EP-T4510 charger. While it's not ideal that I won't be getting the fast charge of the OEM charger, it's far from a major issue for me, as long as I'm not going to damage the battery with it and I doubt I will. Even less of an issue if all I really need to do is keep it between 30 and 80.
I've read also that a complete discharge every once in a while is recommended but not sure how accurate that advice is.
G1032 said:
That's all very interesting. I have often read about the 30 - 80 range. I used to own a Huawei P9 and always charged to 100 and that battery didn't last more than 2 years. Last phone was an A70 and that'll be 3 years old in June. Started getting random reboots recently and a quick Google said that's most likely down to the beginning of a battery failure. So just got this GT Neo "as new". It was obviously sent back to the online store by original purchaser minus the charger (replaced with a 5V 2.1A charger. Store had no OEM charger listed on site for sale so I agreed to take a the EP-T4510 charger. While it's not ideal that I won't be getting the fast charge of the OEM charger, it's far from a major issue for me, as long as I'm not going to damage the battery with it and I doubt I will. Even less of an issue if all I really need to do is keep it between 30 and 80.
I've read also that a complete discharge every once in a while is recommended but not sure how accurate that advice is.
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Li's are born to die; they start degrading the moment they're assembled. Don't go too nuts, just replace them as needed.
Until I watched someone replace my N10+ battery I was very concerned. However I realized it's relatively easy with the right skillset and tools.
Mind you they say the N10+ is one of the more difficult ones to replace... meh.
Now I don't really think much about it.

Question Is it normal for the pixel 6 battery to reach 105F internally when wirelessly charging at 7.5w?

just recently bought an otter box magsafe wireless charge because have one of the magsafe rings on my case. When charging WITHOUT THE CASE on and having the phone just sitting on the charger, it showed in Ampere that my phone's battery was reaching 105 when charging at 7.5W in just a few minutes (it started out at 80). I pulled the phone off at the point since that seemed way to hot. I also tried to charge with the case on with the same issue, only the wireless charger got way hotter due to the magnet on the back. Is it normal for the phone to get that hot when charging at those rates wirelessly? For reference this was the charger had got since it was rated for Ql EPP: https://www.otterbox.com/en-us/magsafe-charging-pad-for-magsafe/charging-pad-magsafe.html
What's the ambient temperature in the room?
105F is charge disable range; keep it no higher than 103F, under 100F is better.
Some heat is needed for charging to work as intended as it's an electrochemical reaction.
Li charging is actually a endothermic reaction but internal battery resistance negates this phenomenon.
Optimum battery start charge temp in 82F.
Use a damp microfiber cloth and/or fan to cool if needed as it approaches 99F. High temperatures and past 85% charges burn up Li batteries fast...
blackhawk said:
What's the ambient temperature in the room?
105F is charge disable range; keep it no higher than 103F, under 100F is better.
Some heat is needed for charging to work as intended as it's an electrochemical reaction.
Li charging is actually a endothermic reaction but internal battery resistance negates this phenomenon.
Optimum battery start charge temp in 82F.
Use a damp microfiber cloth and/or fan to cool if needed as it approaches 99F. High temperatures and past 85% charges burn up Li batteries fast...
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Thanks for the information, my room temp is around 75 F. I was thinking about returning the wireless charger as it was doing that in a room that was around 70 aswell.
aaaafireball said:
Thanks for the information, my room temp is around 75 F. I was thinking about returning the wireless charger as it was doing that in a room that was around 70 aswell.
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That maybe normal for that device but that's not a reasonable trade off. I can fast charge and easily stay in 80-90's at 75F ambient throughout the charge cycle.
Go for cable charging. C ports generally have an insanely high cycle/long service life. Not like the older micro jacks. The C ports exceed the Apple Lightspeed jack lifespan too.
A minimal battery start charge temp of 72F is recommended to avoid the possibility of Li plating which will permanently degrade the battery if it occurs.
I'd say that 105F (40c) is on the high side of normal for wireless charging. Wireless charging tends to generate more heat than charging through a cable does because of the heat generated by the inductive coils. If you have the phone in a case that makes it even worse, as it reduces the efficiency of the wireless link and holds in heat. IMHO, wirless charging degrades the battery faster than proper wired charging.

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