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Hi guys I saw the GT and the asus TF today in a shop. I played a bit with both and with no doubt the TF was much more responsive in the screen transitions and when the menus where appearing.
I understand devices in a shop are stressed by many people and are kept on for many days but I really noticed this so I ask you:
Is the GT a bit slow in the transitions? You know what I mean some things are not open to interpretations: the ipad2 is not slow in this, what about the GT? Is it at the same level?
I'm deciding whether to buy the GT or wait for another tablet as I don't want Apple. But this slowness puts me off.
Thank you.
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Hi guys I saw the GT and the asus TF today in a shop. I played a bit with both and with no doubt the TF was much more responsive in the screen transitions and when the menus where appearing.
I understand devices in a shop are stressed by many people and are kept on for many days but I really noticed this so I ask you:
Is the GT a bit slow in the transitions? You know what I mean some things are not open to interpretations: the ipad2 is not slow in this, what about the GT? Is it at the same level?
I'm deciding whether to buy the GT or wait for another tablet as I don't want Apple. But this slowness puts me off.
Thank you.
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I too played with TF in the store, but when I got it home, within 2 hours, it went back to BB. With TF, ratio of getting bad hardware if compared to tab 10.1 might be 4:1. This just my opinion from people who have found issues with asus transformer.
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Yes, i think that the Galaxy Tab is quite slow and stuttery in many situations. Home screen is laggy and Market is terrible to scroll!
I would have expected a much more polished and smooth operation, think i will send it back and wait until honeycomb/hardware is working flawlessly...
What do you guys think? This stuttery crap annoys me when i buy a device for >540€ !
So I am not the only one who notices it. And most importantly it is true that it is laggy.
Is the TW update of any help in making it smoother?
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i have had a xoom and it was lagging. really bad. until i rooted it and installed a custom kernel. then it flew. I purchased a gtab 10.1 and it was also slow but not as bad as the xoom but slow enough i was like forget it. well last night i got the itch to get the gtab again and there isn't any lag and it is responsive. during my first stint with the gtab i read where people didn't have any lag. so i can testify (in my opinion) some run smooth and some dont.. pain in the butt. so i think its a personal call if you can handle some lag and want to try to fix it through custom roms and kernels or take the bad with the good. hang on to it. if not, wait for the next generation of tabs.. i think that is what i am going to do..this tab wont let me get into downloading mode so screw it. i am done till better ones come out..
I've now owned 5 tablets: Streak 7, Xoom, A chinatab, an Iconia, and a GT10. They all have had little problems; lagginess, FCs, glitches; but I expected that.
The problem here is not hardware or software, it's users and marketing. These are being marketed as polished technology; in fact this is all new ground and every tablet maker on the market is still trying to figure it out. The problem is not that one is laggy; it's that you're expecting too much from what should really be toys for early adopters to figure out. I'd say, give it 2-3 years if you really need a polished experience on a tablet, or buy an ipad and accept the limited functionality.
Also; to directly address the question of TF vs GT10: I chose the GT10 because it's lighter and I don't need the connections. It would have been nice to have a microSD, but since I am not looking to replace a laptop computer (my tablet is entertainment only), it works best for me. I also like that Samsung appears to be prepared to support this tab for a bit; Asus is working on the TF2 already; support for the TF1 will drop off soon after the successor is replaced...
I think its just a software problem! There ARE Launchers which are nice and smooth, but somehow a multi-billion company isnt able to produce decent code, its laughable!
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I think its just a software problem! There ARE Launchers which are nice and smooth, but somehow a multi-billion company isnt able to produce decent code, its laughable!
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TouchWiz is, I guess is better than the stock one, and most of the lags are already gone. So far there's no other honeycomb based tablet in the market, without tegra2. So it will be hard to tell if it's hardware related issues or software. When hc runs on Tegra3 or any other hardware, then we'll know the actual culprit.
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It's just a shame the GT it's not smoother.. I'm reading also apps like drawing and stuff are very laggy.
I will weight these things carefully.
Everything is a trade off...
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Do you think it can become smoother with a custom rom?
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Do you think it can become smoother with a custom rom?
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It's already smooth with TW update. With custom roms it can be even smoother. You can try one of docs rom in development section. Also, once we see a custom kernel, that'll make it even more smoother. Also as someone already mentioned that HC is still in its early stages, in 2 to 3 years, it will be as powerful as the notebook, of course with better hardware as well.
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It's already smooth with TW update. With custom roms it can be even smoother. You can try one of docs rom in development section. Also, once we see a custom kernel, that'll make it even more smoother. Also as someone already mentioned that HC is still in its early stages, in 2 to 3 years, it will be as powerful as the notebook, of course with better hardware as well.
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Ok that's good news. I think I'll get it next week and play with it after I found out which custom rom is better.
Thanks everyone for the opinions.
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Ok I installed Bonsai ROM and didn't see any significant improvement in terms of smothness.
ALso for some reason I am not able to get the TW version. I installed the TW version of Bonsai but I keep getting HC..
Also tried one of doc's slim ROM but was getting a lot of FC.
GOod point is I tried doc's Launcher2 and this helped a lot in terms of smoothness.
Now the tablet is more responsive.
Just an fyi.
Hi all, I am a member here coming from an AT&T Galaxy S3. I just ordered a Galaxy Note an hour ago and wanted to know some hands on user experiences? I have looked at youtube videos and they just don't seem to do the trick. I would like to know if they are really smooth and if they have good functionality, battery life, and if the development is good?
With the GSM SIII's losing IMEI's left and right, and all the bugs already, I am wondering how good the note really is.
I am not really looking for a 'persuasion' opinion because I will have both devices here before too long when the note gets here. I just want to know everyones experience and if the phone is laggy or anything, or any known bugs.
Any help is greatly appreciated and I will thank all members that give me some feedback.
Thanks! :good:
First off congrats on getting your note.
Stock 2.3 had some lag issues for me but ics fixed that and is smooth even stock.
As far as development goes i haven't tried allot out but have seen allot going on there are some great stockish roms with only a few tweaks but my choice right now is the collective aocp cp1 ROM .
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First off congrats on getting your note.
Stock 2.3 had some lag issues for me but ics fixed that and is smooth even stock.
As far as development goes i haven't tried allot out but have seen allot going on there are some great stockish roms with only a few tweaks but my choice right now is the collective aocp cp1 ROM .
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I appreciate this. I am hoping it will be good. I have like 8 devices now and I am trying to keep it on just one lol. I am stuck between my GSIII and now the Note when it arrives. I am sure each will have its perks. I just wanted user experiences.
Right now, in my opinion, the Note is the best phone on the market. We have awesome dev support. Any worries of lag you can pretty much throw out the window. The stock ROM, debloated, is very smooth and performs well, I have been quite happy with debloated stock ICS, and it it's legitimately the first Android I have used where the stock ROM is bearable, let alone satisfactory.
However, the work the devs have done will likely make you want to flash a custom ROM fairly quickly. We have official CM9 nightlies, and to make that even better, Cyanogen himself is the developer for that. We also have AOKP variants, as well as a few hybrids and AOSP roms. I'm currently running Gubment Cheeze by rasroygbiv, which is a CM9 variant, and I couldn't be happier, this thing flies and sips battery; highly recommended by me. I've tried most everything in the development forum as I'm a flashaholic, and I can tell you that the Note will not disappoint. JB is also in the works by several of our developers, and we should have stable builds very soon. Dev support is awesome to say the least.
There are no issues with IMEI switching that are know, and we have plenty of options to return your Note to complete stock, including a flash counter reset, so you shouldn't have any worries flashing. In addition, it's a Samsung, which means unless you're dumb and rush things, it's damn near impossible to hard brick. And even if you do manage to hard brick, there are JTAG services available for like 40 bucks that will fix that.
Battery life is slightly above average which is nice. Most people get around 3.5-4 hours of screen on time, and generally anywhere from 12-18 hours of standby or more depending on what all you have running/syncing. So there shouldn't be any worries there.
Plus, we have this beautiful 5.3" monster of a screen that will make you fall in love. It isn't even a question that you'll love the Note. It's a question of if you'll still love your other phones. =]
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That pretty much summed it up for me. If I could thank you 5 ttines I would
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I just wanna say that was the best feedback I have ever got on here. Thank you again.
No problem, glad I could help. =]
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First thing I would recommend is go with either a stock debloated ROM or even better would be going with h0tw1r3's ICS kernel and DAGr8's AOKP milestone 6 ROM. This combination for me has been beyond excellent. Incredibly smooth, rock solid stable and a pleasure to have. With my current CPU setup I'm at 15 hours off the charger and still have 70% battery (1 hour of screen on).
You can expect about 4-5 hours of actual screen on time.
If you can get past the size of the phone - which is honestly the biggest stumbling block for most new comers to the note, there's very few devices out there that are as good as the i717.
Good luck with your new note!
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netsyd said:
First thing I would recommend is go with either a stock debloated ROM or even better would be going with h0tw1r3's ICS kernel and DAGr8's AOKP milestone 6 ROM. This combination for me has been beyond excellent. Incredibly smooth, rock solid stable and a pleasure to have. With my current CPU setup I'm at 15 hours off the charger and still have 70% battery (1 hour of screen on).
You can expect about 4-5 hours of actual screen on time.
If you can get past the size of the phone - which is honestly the biggest stumbling block for most new comers to the note, there's very few devices out there that are as good as the i717.
Good luck with your new note!
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I am limited to 8 thanks per day, which I am pretty sad about, but I will be sure to thank you tomorrow haha.
I am not worried about the size, just the lag issues I have heard about and the quality of the screen.... can you differentiate between pixels to the naked eye or anything?
Optimizer said:
Hi all, I am a member here coming from an AT&T Galaxy S3. I just ordered a Galaxy Note an hour ago and wanted to know some hands on user experiences? I have looked at youtube videos and they just don't seem to do the trick. I would like to know if they are really smooth and if they have good functionality, battery life, and if the development is good?
With the GSM SIII's losing IMEI's left and right, and all the bugs already, I am wondering how good the note really is.
I am not really looking for a 'persuasion' opinion because I will have both devices here before too long when the note gets here. I just want to know everyones experience and if the phone is laggy or anything, or any known bugs.
Any help is greatly appreciated and I will thank all members that give me some feedback.
Thanks! :good:
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The new one is coming or being announced in two weeks. My note with the ROM I'm currently using is just as fast as my S3, and much more capable due to the Samsung apps-- I.e. S Note, the widgets, and the ability to flash S3 apps and widgets because of phMod and the touchwiz framework support inherent in such a configuration.
You absolutely ant go wrong. I had a macbook pro, which I used for browser duty/media, and an iPhone for gaming and news. I stopped using my iPhone and my macbook pro when I got my TF101. I then got my Galaxy Note, and stopped using my tablet for anything but reading, and I split news duty between my Note and Transformer.
Even with the Snapdragon S3, ICS & the custom ROMs (and gingerbread earlier on) made it so the performance was as smooth or smoother than on any other device I touched, including the Prime.
Even games like Dead Trigger, with the Tegra 3 graphics effects enabled run well. They don't run at 60FPS, but to be honest, the display quality is such that you'll be wowed by the resolution and color vibrance and won't notice when you're only running at 30-40 fps. The gpu was the only area where I could've used just a tad bit more power-- I had that power with the GPU over clock that came with the first over clock kernel that was available here. I haven't seen that GPU OC make a comeback in ICS, even after the kernel source was released--disappointing.
Some suggest that the new Note will have a quad core S4, or the new Exynos wit baked in LTE (they won't give up LTE)....so I really think you're cutting yourself short. On the other hand, the enthusiasts and developers are, and will be here, likely for another year, when on contract, they can get an early 18 month upgrade, unless they buy retail.
You have a vibrant, CM and Indie supported community here, with the turkey, the gravy, and all the trimmings. Its impossible to guarantee that wit a new device-- especially one that had a predecessor released what, 4 or 5 months ago (Jesus christ!).
So weigh an established device that is supported, vs a SoC upgrade....because the Note 2 won't be much different. It wont have a better screen-- in fact, the screen resolution will stay the same, and if the rumors are correct, screen size will increase, resulting in a lower pixel density. It will be unproven, and might get better battery life (I say it might, because the rumors say it will get thinner....something that will impact the battery capacity, when in combination with a change to a more efficient, would likely balance out). It will have a less dense, but bigger screen.
I will however tell you that virtually e v e r y o n e that's used the Note, would likely pick it over any device on the market anywhere.
The form factor and screen quality trumps virtually every other ace in the hole out there.
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With the new kernel, and AOKP - I have ZERO lag. And the screen is on par with the best I've seen (including the 4s).
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See, I don't game alot. Main things are
Texting
Calling
Internet a little
Facebook
Xda
Twitter
And music.
If the note can handle those super smooth with no issues I have a feeling I'm going with thst
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See, I don't game alot. Main things are
Texting
Calling
Internet a little
Facebook
Xda
Twitter
And music.
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You won't be disappointed.
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I can't compare the Note with your S3, but I have the Note and the international quad core S3. My quad S3 is definitely a hair smoother, but that doesn't make up for the extra screen real estate, and s pen functionality. The extra smoothness of the S3 is hardly noticeable, versus when I pull out my s pen and start taking notes. That's a noticeable difference.
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I appreciate this. I am hoping it will be good. I have like 8 devices now and I am trying to keep it on just one lol. I am stuck between my GSIII and now the Note when it arrives. I am sure each will have its perks. I just wanted user experiences.
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i have never used the s3 but the note is by fast the best phone o have used or even seen the screen is amazing very fast and is a very solid device. Every one that sees it is like omg that's a phone.....so it makes a good conversation starter.
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I can't compare the Note with your S3, but I have the Note and the international quad core S3. My quad S3 is definitely a hair smoother, but that doesn't make up for the extra screen real estate, and s pen functionality. The extra smoothness of the S3 is hardly noticeable, versus when I pull out my s pen and start taking notes. That's a noticeable difference.
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honestly I will probably NEVER use the SPen lol.... I just like the bigger screen and I hear great development for it.
I just dont wanna go from my S3, to a Note, and then be disappointed. Granted I can always switch back, but I just spent X amount of money a new in box sealed note. I am pretty hopeful it works good. Thinking about donating some of these other phones I have to Devs that have bricked or something. I litterally have 2 iphone 4's, 2 iphone 4s's, a One X, a Note now, an S2 and S3, and like the older G1's and stuff. May do that when I finally decide what device to keep.
Hi.
I am considering on getting a new phone and one of the hottest options for me is the Galaxy S3.
I currently have an Iphone 4s (Yeah, I regret buying that piece of crap every second of my life) but I've had Android phones earlier too, most noticeably the Samsung Galaxy S2.
Originally I want the Nexus 4, but I can't find any with a good price in my country (they all cost like €400 or so) and buying form the Internet isn't an option because no one delivers online stuff here in this terrible country.
So, I found some SGS3 that cost around €300 and I think the price is OK. I can afford that, but I'd like to ask some questions to the users on XDA before purchasing it.
Since I've used Android before, I know almost everything about it (the stuff like rooting, custom Rom's, and custom recoveries. ODIN and so on) I\d like to know if the S3 is still a good phone. I mean does it still perform well. Im worried about this a bit because my GS2 was a good phone but it was laggy and tended to heat a lot when using it a lot or during high-graphic games.
Is the 1.4 GhZ quad core chip still a good processor that can handle perfectly most of the daily routine stuff.
BTW, I intend on putting stock Android of some form, like CM10.1 or AOKP or PA, on it because I hate TouchWiz.
Would you guys still suggest the Samsung Galaxy S3 even after more than a year since it's release?
if u want cm10 or any aosp Rom dont think of GS3 because of closed drivers the camera is still crap on cm10.1 because of that reason
so ur only option would be living with a themed touchwiz and removed blotware otherwise find your self another phone
dont go for s3
buy any htc or a sony device that u can afford.
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How about nexus 4 ?
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S3 always gave me good performance. i would recommend the same. you have many custom roms other than touchwiz that work perfectly as the stock f/w's. i feel so sad about the people using this phone supporting other brands.
Yeah as mentioned, if you want AOSP, go for something qualcomm based.
Camera IMHO is pretty good if you use the aosp camera mod from xda. Just poor in low light but sammy camera isn't much better in low light anyway
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Get it
It's a good phone in general, but on stock the RAM and CPU shows it's age. It's not exceptional in the graphics department, same GPU as S2
And the battery is kind of short compared to, say, the note II.
Ok, I see your point. It was probably the same thing about the drivers with the Galaxy S2. Always had problems in custom ROM's with the camera and the sound in some ways.
Like I feared, the S3 might be a bit better than the S2 in performance because of the better processor but since it has the same GPU and same amount of RAM, it shouldn't much different overall.
As I said, I want the Nexus 4 but it's hard to find it here in my country for an acceptable price (even then it's still not easy finding one).
Since some of you suggested HTC or Sony, what do you guys think about the One X? I can also find the HTC One X for around €300 which is OK imo.
But one of my friend has it, and he has problems with the Wifi a lot. The reception is very low, and sometimes his phone just won't start, or at times it wont play any kind of media, like music and videos and so on. That's why Im worried about the HTC One X. As for the Sony alternative, they do not have any good phones besides the new Xperia Z and upwards IMO.
I guess I will wait and see if I can find a Nexus4 for a month or so, but I really, REALLY want to move away as far as possible from the Iphone and get back ASAP to Android. At the end of the day, I think I will still be better with a Custom Rom based on Touchwiz than iOS.
May god help me.
i9300 is so much more comfortable to hold than the i9100, a huge improvement there. Right now I would buy the HTC One, but it's expensive
Oh well, I just bought a new sgs3 from my carrier subsidized and it's the best phone I could've bought for the money.
I'm coming from an abused HTC Desire so the upgrade is huge.
Still on stock rom so I'm experiencing some lag when pushing the phone a bit. Will probably root/custom rom in the near future.
Was aiming for the HTC One X + but couldn't find it anymore for sale.
Had my s3 for a year now and i love it. Its big screen is much better for me than iPhone 4s which my partner uses.
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Yes, it's still a good deal to buy it and it's still has support from Samsung, so it's means that it's will get latest updates.:good:
Just sold my iPad 3 since it got slow as fk after updating it to ios 9. Is the nexus 9 good now? I heard it had a lot of performance issues. Stock wise and custom rom/ kernel wise how does it run? Has marshmallow/N ironed out all the lag?
I would say yes! i still love mine.
Custom ROMs and/or Kernels do help a lot.
Depends on the price and how much time you have to mess with it, in the event you get one like some of us have. I have hope for N, but the dp3 and dp4 didn't stay on the tab very long-one day for 4-both times the battery life/charging-while-running was compromised. The strange thing about this tab is that it runs beautifully for about a month to six weeks, then the lags, etc. Dirty Unicorn didn't help, but I prefer stock. I'm using elementalx. Right now, mine is a primo device. By August, it will require a wipe and reset. When it works correctly, it's a dream, IMO. I love the screen and the screen ratio. If I could find one I liked better, I would get it. I tried iPad (even with jailbreak) but couldn't stand the lack of control, and the size was too big. I tried 8" Galaxy S and Shield but didn't like the size. Shield seemed lacking in other areas.
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I've had pure Nexus on my tablet 2 months. It is still lightning fast. Using pure Nexus ROM and fire and ice kernel. It I could I would buy two more for my boys to use. So to answer your question yes it is still a good buy. Just as long as you root and ROM it. Stock is slow and gets slower everyday you use it. About a month then it becomes so slow you want to throw it.
I'd have to say no.
Things can be improved by rooting and flashing roms & kernals but at the end of the day, the 2GB ram is still, and always will be a bottleneck. :crying:
I've now switched to a much older LG v500 running CM13 and the performance is much more consistent. The N9 can be faster, but I have no issues like Chrome tabs and the launcher refreshing on the v500. :highfive:
Considering the v500 can be bought used for about half the price of a used N9, I know where I'd put my money if I had my time again. :angel:
Been looking for a decent Android tablet for a little while now and I have no idea what to go for? I love tinkering but I'm not very technically minded, so I have to depend on the awesome people at XDA for guides and advice.
I've narrowed my search to either a N9 or an S2, but can deviced which one would be better overall and to tinker with... Any advice ?
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I love the Nexus 9, out of all the Nexus tablet's I have owned it is the best, right Next to my Nexus 10. I recommend it 100%, but only if you plan on installing Lineage OS 14.1 or any other custom firmware. The display is fantastic too, I care more about colors than resolution, and the colors are perfect. Warm but still real. I love it. I have never used an S2 but the Nexus 9 is a dream. Fast, decent battery (takes ages to charge), and great multi tasking. Maybe I just got lucky though.
Verdict? if you want stable grab an S2 if you want a great tab too mess with grab an N9