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i finally rooted my phone, ive been hearing lots of stuff about rooting your phone being a great way to explore your phone.
1. what does it really do?
2. whats cool features can i do to the rooted phone?
3. what do i do now that im rooted?
(if i post this in the wrong section im sorry)
Unix based systems run files based on permissions. If you don't have permission, you can't do certain things. Rooting gives you root access i.e. gives you superuser permission i.e. you have access to system files.
Some apps require that level of access to change things. That's pretty much it.
are there any useful apps i should know about?
Titanium Backup lets you create backups of all applications and settings. The awesome thing is, rather than just download the game onto a new phone (or a restored old one) and start over, you can install on multiple phones, bringing the applications right back to where you started.
This is a must have application for anyone doing mods to their phone.
Umm... well I can think of others but those don't directly relate to the Atrix... there are screen shot apps,...
But you can install ROMs and kernels after routing as well.
Rooted/ROM Captivate (For Sale)
Rooted Atrix
ok so i went through the root process. now what? i know what a noob. but how do i know that i am actually rooted. what are the aps that i want? of course any additional info you may like to share is appreciated.
thanks in advance
mark
markkal123 said:
ok so i went through the root process. now what? i know what a noob. but how do i know that i am actually rooted. what are the aps that i want? of course any additional info you may like to share is appreciated.
thanks in advance
mark
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Download Super User and Titanium from the market. Try to freeze some of your bloatware. If it let's you, you are rooted.
when i open superuser should i expect to see apps in the app tab? superuser opens but i see no apps in the app tab.
markkal123 said:
when i open superuser should i expect to see apps in the app tab? superuser opens but i see no apps in the app tab.
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You won't see any till they request permission.
Dead give away to if you're rooted is that when you flashed the second PG05IMG.zip the top of the screen would have said "s-off".
This will tell you if you have root or not:
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.joeykrim.rootcheck&feature=search_result
Also, if you download apps like Titanium Backup, it requires root to function properly, so you'd know then too.
Some of the programs that you would want is kernel manager and clockwork manager. Read through dev. Forum and decide which kernel and rom u want to be running. If ur rooted why stay pn stock.
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markkal123 said:
ok so i went through the root process. now what? i know what a noob. but how do i know that i am actually rooted. what are the aps that i want? of course any additional info you may like to share is appreciated.
thanks in advance
mark
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If you power on your phone while holding the volume down button, you will load into the bootloader. At the top it should say "MECHA XD ENG S-OFF" at the top. You are rooted.
As the others said, install ClockworkMod and TitaniumBackup.
TitaniumBackup will allow you to freeze (Or uninstall) bloatware that was put on your phone. I usually just freeze the apps because uninstalling can sometimes cause issues. Look at the app in titanium and tap on it, which will bring up a menu. Hit "Freeze" and it will stop the program, remove it from your app drawer and not load it in the future. TB also allows you to backup your apps (And sync them to your dropbox if you have one).
Clockwork mod is what you use to flash ROMs. ROMs are customized UI's for your phone that can add or take away a number of features. I personally use Das Bamf 1.6, which is amazing. A ROM that retains the "Sense" UI will still look a lot like the native HTC screen, keeping many of the features. A "Desensed" screen removes HTC's UI, causing it to be the more native Andoid phone OS (Think Nexus 1).
ROMs can also add features such as over/underclocking the processor, different animations (Startup, etc) and adding modes like "Hibernate."
To install a ROM, first backup your current ROM.
Open ClockworkMod>Scroll down and hit "Backup Current Rom">Enter backup name (Usually the date, but you can name it whatever)
It will ask you if its ok to restart into CWM recovery. Hit yes. The phone will restart and Clockwork will back up your settings. After that you can restart the phone and it will start up your phone like normal again.
Now that you have a back up (In case you hate the rom you install or something goes wrong) you can install a ROM! To do that we go back to ClockworkMod.
Hit the button labeled "Download ROM." This will bring up a number of ROMs that have been linked into CWM. For this example I will use das BAMF. Hit das BAMF and you will see many different versions. If you hit one of them, it will download the ROM and CWM will flash it. CWM will ask you if you want to clear all data. Adrynalyne says you do not need to, and I have not needed to, but if you have problems, reflash and wipe all data first with the options.
Kind of a quick an dirty. There are much better guides here on the forums for doing all of this. Search the forums. Read carefully.
thanks for the info. with your help i am indeed rooted.
a stickey regarding this would be helpful and appreciated. included would be whether or not a rooted thunderbolt could possibly be "bricked" with any verizon/htc updates. are there issues with manufacture updates of rooted phones?
Congrats on being rooted! I rooted my Thunderbolt within 2 hours of buying it! A little observation I have made is that my Thunderbolt loses 3G more often after updating the Radio. I have tried everything to remedy this situation, ie all different assortments and variations posted here on XDA.
Hi I'm new to the development scene, I am trying to strip down a rom to remove certain programs... actually everything but the web browser, firefox 5 and flash. I would also like to set a default background in the image and preset the wireless settings too. These are going to be put in an environment where we don't want them to be messed with. Is there an easy way of doing this? I was thinking the ASOP rom might be the best candidate to work with, but I don't know for sure. I ill be rolling out about 20 - 25 units in the next week or so. any help would be appreciated.
Thanks
Joe
Your best bet is really probably to use the latest stock ROM so you don't leave root access and google market in there. You could probably acomplish your roll out by setting up any rom the way you want it, then wiping cache and user data, and running a nand backup with CWM. Then use that backup to restore onto the other devices.
To remove system apps in a ROM you can use ADB from a PC, or you can root it with z4root and use Titanium Backup. Then remove root before the backup.
thanks for the info
Thanks a bunch! I will try that when they come in. If I clear out the user data will that wipe out the wifi settings? To remove programs via ADB I still would need to be rooted correct?
Thanks
Joe
Yes clearing data will wipe wifi settings. I have never tried ADB on an unrooted device. You should jsut be able to activate debug usb and have it work jsut fine. But you can root with z4root and then UNroot with z4root when you are done with doing your root things (but befor eyou make a nand image).
Just search for z4root.apk
removing special apps
I'm having trouble removing the facebook app, youtube app and the gmarket app. any tips? I cant find them in the titanium backup app. any tips on removing these? getting rid of these apps is of the up-most importance. - these will be installed in an environment where we do not want people to have access to these apps. an help would be appreciated.
Thanks
Joe
linuxman84 said:
I'm having trouble removing the facebook app, youtube app and the gmarket app. any tips? I cant find them in the titanium backup app. any tips on removing these? getting rid of these apps is of the up-most importance. - these will be installed in an environment where we do not want people to have access to these apps. an help would be appreciated.
Thanks
Joe
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They are installed as system apps. You would need to use something like SystemApp Remover to remove them (it can also backup the system aps incase you want to reinstall and also convert nonsystem apps to system apps). But, you do realize that there are other places for users to get apps to install than Market and you can still reach Facebook & Youtube via the browser once the google apps are removed!!!!
Hmm
I tried the system app remover they do not seem to be listed there It looks like they are short cuts to web pages, at this point I would settle just for hiding them, do you know if it possible to hide those. I am using the factory build on the 1.2 tree.
Thanks
Joe
Use the instructions posted here on the CyanogenMod Wiki to get rid of whatever you want.
And, there's really no need to use things like z4root on the gTablet. You can get root without that. In fact, if you can connect to the tablet using adb, then you're already root. The gTab is not like a locked-down phone.
linuxman84 said:
I tried the system app remover they do not seem to be listed there It looks like they are short cuts to web pages, at this point I would settle just for hiding them, do you know if it possible to hide those. I am using the factory build on the 1.2 tree.
Thanks
Joe
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I do believe you are correct...the stock TapNTap had the ability to save Web Links as Icons on the home screen. Not running stock and don't remember if there is a way to remove them.
z4root is handy to gain root and install busybox/superuser without having to set up adb though.
Hello i have a st15i mini.
I must say its realy fast after i5800 with kyrilos.
Ok now here are my problems.
First of all i found i dont have task manager when i long press home button.
????
Second and maybe more important i see i have all does crappy aplications runing in the background like facebook, some game applications etc.
How do i uninstall them?
I dont have a stock file manager ?????????
Is there any xperia mini custom project?
If so please point me to one of them.
Im on stock 2.3.4 latest for my region.
EvgeniyDragunov said:
Hello i have a st15i mini.
I must say its realy fast after i5800 with kyrilos.
Ok now here are my problems.
First of all i found i dont have task manager when i long press home button.
????
Second and maybe more important i see i have all does crappy aplications runing in the background like facebook, some game applications etc.
How do i uninstall them?
I dont have a stock file manager ?????????
Is there any xperia mini custom project?
If so please point me to one of them.
Im on stock 2.3.4 latest for my region.
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Ok so Here is a link to Cyanogen Mod 7 which is a custom rom for all New xperia's imo probably the best custom rom out there. This will require you to have an unlocked boot loader on your phone.
Your second option is to root your device and remove the systems apps you dont like with titanium backup available off the android market.
furrabbit.nh said:
Ok so Here is a link to Cyanogen Mod 7 which is a custom rom for all New xperia's imo probably the best custom rom out there. This will require you to have an unlocked boot loader on your phone.
Your second option is to root your device and remove the systems apps you dont like with titanium backup available off the android market.
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Its for my girlfriend and she realy likes some things on it so i will need to modify.
I tried CM7 on some other phones and i must say i realy like it.
Ok few more questions....
1. If i root it flash kernel or flash rom can i recover it like it use to be? (cwm or odin back the way it was)
2. Does the multi boot work on this phone?
3. Can i extract some apps from i5800 froyo and restore them on gingerbread?
4. If i root it how do i do it and can i unroot? (i need samba installed asap)
Thx for the answer.
EvgeniyDragunov said:
Its for my girlfriend and she realy likes some things on it so i will need to modify.
I tried CM7 on some other phones and i must say i realy like it.
Ok few more questions....
1. If i root it flash kernel or flash rom can i recover it like it use to be? (cwm or odin back the way it was)
2. Does the multi boot work on this phone?
3. Can i extract some apps from i5800 froyo and restore them on gingerbread?
4. If i root it how do i do it and can i unroot? (i need samba installed asap)
Thx for the answer.
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1. Just use flashtool to flash a stock firmware for your handset. FlashTool
2. As for multiboot im not sure sorry.
3. You can use titanium backup and try, although its not garunteed to work.
4. If you are planning to flash cm7 it will be pre-rooted after the flash. all you need is unlocked boot loader.
Just have in mind that if you unlock your bootlocker (wich is essential if you are planing to put CM) you gonna lose your warranty.
About task manager, you can use Advanced task killer, who is avaliable at android market for free. There u can manage what process you want to leave running and wich one you want to be killed.
With rooted phone you can uninstall some of the system programs, just like Facebook
Here is the thread about unlocking:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1346198
Sent from my ST15i using XDA App
Alchnemesis said:
Just have in mind that if you unlock your bootlocker (wich is essential if you are planing to put CM) you gonna lose your warranty.
About task manager, you can use Advanced task killer, who is avaliable at android market for free. There u can manage what process you want to leave running and wich one you want to be killed.
With rooted phone you can uninstall some of the system programs, just like Facebook
Here is the thread about unlocking:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1346198
Sent from my ST15i using XDA App
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So basically if i use this tool i want lose warranty as far as i dont touch bootlocker????
I downloaded some task managers of the market but when i kill apps they restart automaticaly.
One more question.
If i root it uninstall apps via titanium can i restore the apps by wipeing the phone???
THX
Yes, that is correct. You wont lose your warranty as long as you don't touch bootlocker. And with that tool I linked to you, you can easily root your phone and unroot it when ever you like (tested myself).
Some applications will always return back to process tree, simple as, thats how they work
For example, facebook is always in background to notify you about notifications and those things, even if you didn't set up an facebook account, he will always be in background.
That's stupid, I know, but that doesn't suck your battery or similar.
You can always restore all Google applications with ClockworkMod recovery.
Here's the link for CWM:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1345741
And here is the link for google applications:
http://goo-inside.me/gapps/
Lets get rid of the stupid things.
First of all there is a data notification whenever you boot the phone.(how to pooooooof its gone)
second there is notification when i turn on gps that might be some internet trafic involved. (if i turn off data plan is there posibily some internet trafic going on) is it gps or only agps?
third i know this phone is storeing all data how do i read it any viewer?
Is there currently a way to have both the Amazon App store and the Google Play store working together? On the newest update?
Does rooting have any adverse affects from Amazon? Like will anything stop working?
I plan on buying a used tablet, how can I check to make sure the tablet is deactivated so that I can use my own Amazon stuff on it and it doesn't get marked as stolen?
I may think of other questions I need help with in the meantime, but thanks for any help.
everwhere
Hobox10 said:
Is there currently a way to have both the Amazon App store and the Google Play store working together? On the newest update?
Does rooting have any adverse affects from Amazon? Like will anything stop working?
I plan on buying a used tablet, how can I check to make sure the tablet is deactivated so that I can use my own Amazon stuff on it and it doesn't get marked as stolen?
I may think of other questions I need help with in the meantime, but thanks for any help.
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Check out the general section, you will find the anwser you seek. if you have any other questions there is also a search abilility..there are only about a half a dozen threads titled with the same or basically the same as yours...thanks for visiting and I hope you find all the information you need. Previous owner must unregister. the tablet from their account before u received it.and I would attempt to register it and setup your account before cash exchanges hands or contact amazon with id to verify that it has not been blackliisted already, it can either be unregistered by owner from tab then reset . Or done through ther online account..
A lot of the threads I have read seem to have people contradicting or trying to figure out what actually works or not, or is simply outdated.
Yeah, I'm with OP. I have a new Fire HDX and am trying to figure out the 'best' way to root it, and after reading through everything I'm more confused than before.
I haven't taken my Fire out of the box yet. There seems to be discussion that if I haven't downloaded an OTA yet, I can root in a way others can't because the new updates block it?
Is there a known "best" ROM someone can point us to?
Why do I keep seeing everyone say 'don't ever turn on wifi!'? I assume that is just to not get the OTA update at the beginning. But once rooted, obv we can use wifi right?
Is every root method dependant on creating a separate partition for the new ROM, and whenever we use the Kindle we have to choose to use the stock amazon rom or the new ROM we've flashed?
Thanks!
well
lordtigger said:
Yeah, I'm with OP. I have a new Fire HDX and am trying to figure out the 'best' way to root it, and after reading through everything I'm more confused than before.
I haven't taken my Fire out of the box yet. There seems to be discussion that if I haven't downloaded an OTA yet, I can root in a way others can't because the new updates block it?
Is there a known "best" ROM someone can point us to?
Why do I keep seeing everyone say 'don't ever turn on wifi!'? I assume that is just to not get the OTA update at the beginning. But once rooted, obv we can use wifi right?
Is every root method dependant on creating a separate partition for the new ROM, and whenever we use the Kindle we have to choose to use the stock amazon rom or the new ROM we've flashed?
Thanks!
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Well "root"has nothing to do with seperate partitions n such. root is all permission control over system.
The only way to flash anything currently is being on older os rooting,then installing safestrap which will set up alternate system and data boot path allowing you to flash a ROM separately from your factory os ,as to not disturb it. Because currently we do not have stable working fastboot for this device. As for BEST rom. In any situation is totally in one own experience and opinions. Currently there isn't any selection if u look in development section the only two that function only work on old firmware ...you can roll back to that firmware ..but also bootloader is locked tight thus the need for a "safe" type of recovery as of moment only works on older firmware also. Just.within the last couple of days have reveiled a couple of rooting options for lastest firmware so ...this tab per Amazon gives no warning nor asks permission to upgrade of firmware which unrooted a ton of people last few months...soooo no root no development....now we have root again we will get going again..Have fun and most of all be PATIENT and do not ask for ETA remember all the developers here are doing that on there FreeTime and free of pay most the time. AS FAR as rooting and adding gapps to newest firmware I heard that it has been achieved with HDXPOSED found in development and permission module . Then sideload gapps... As far as adverse effects... Like I said you will have to be patient if you want somebody else to find out bugs for you.. still to new .....due to new root releases..like last three days.
I'm perfectly fine with the stock rom honestly, as long as I can get Google Play store working alongside the Amazon app store. Now, assuming I can root when I receive the tablet, I will install safestrap. Is there any bugs or anything with safestrap but just using the stock rom? I saw some people mention getting permission errors and such but I think that was just for custom roms in another slot. I only want safestrap to make a backup.
Basically, is there any actual danger to modifying the stock rom at all, even something simply like play store? Or should it all be done on a custom rom slot? I would assume having the backup would mean if something got messed up I can just restore it.
Secondly, there is a SEPARATE play store mod you can do where they don't both work together right? I believe I saw something about it where you just have to install a custom launcher, and with the custom launcher the google play apps work but under the amazon launcher, amazon stuff works? If that's correct, does that work without root? Because I can live with that temporarily until root is secured.
Thanks.
nope
Hobox10 said:
I'm perfectly fine with the stock rom honestly, as long as I can get Google Play store working alongside the Amazon app store. Now, assuming I can root when I receive the tablet, I will install safestrap. Is there any bugs or anything with safestrap but just using the stock rom? I saw some people mention getting permission errors and such but I think that was just for custom roms in another slot. I only want safestrap to make a backup.
Basically, is there any actual danger to modifying the stock rom at all, even something simply like play store? Or should it all be done on a custom rom slot? I would assume having the backup would mean if something got messed up I can just restore it.
Secondly, there is a SEPARATE play store mod you can do where they don't both work together right? I believe I saw something about it where you just have to install a custom launcher, and with the custom launcher the google play apps work but under the amazon launcher, amazon stuff works? If that's correct, does that work without root? Because I can live with that temporarily until root is secured.
Thanks.
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As far as I know gapps aside from gmail will not work without root and HDXposed..(fixes permissions)and as far as doing any mods to stock slot it is not advised because of very difficult if even possible recovery due to no fastboot capabilities. Check for bugs for any mods in associated threads. As far as flashing anything ,again I am not sure safestrap is functioning on latest firmware .. And there hasn't been enough time for any development because of the recent rooting capabilities.
Alright, so it sounds like this is what I should do then:
Get tablet
Root it (If I can't, then I stop here)
Install safestrap
Backup
Install the backup on romslot 1??
Make the modifications I want to romslot 1
Is that right?
Also let's assume I can't root it, I can still sideload most apps I want like Gmail, Youtube, etc? (Those aren't on the amazon app store correct?)
yeap
Hobox10 said:
Alright, so it sounds like this is what I should do then:
Get tablet
Root it (If I can't, then I stop here)
Install safestrap
Backup
Install the backup on romslot 1??
Make the modifications I want to romslot 1
Is that right?
Also let's assume I can't root it, I can still sideload most apps I want like Gmail, Youtube, etc? (Those aren't on the amazon app store correct?)
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Yeah I would say you just about got the idea .... If it is a brand-new unit you have a possibility that it will be on the old firmware still ... That is why they need to bypass activation skip set up . And check firmware before you hook it to any active Wi-Fi service .. And even if it does or is already updated there is now root available for the latest firmware ... It's just a question whether or not we can get anything else to work along with the latest firmware ... I would be advised if you attempt to run the OTA blocker which comes in the HDX utility you may have Wi-Fi glitches and reboots .... But like I said those bugs need to be checked for and follow through and repaired in their associated threads ... Not a new thread that only plugs up our forums but puts the helpful threads on the next page where cannot find them ... Remember there are multiple pages each forum section and some of the helpful threads have been buried on the next page due to people starting new threads with the same questions or problem... That have been resolved already... Remember reading is more informative than typing . And remember if anybody here is giving you their personal time to answer your questions and respond to your post it is courtesy here to hit the thanks button in the left lower corner of the post.End rant. thx
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