I am stil on stock ROM 3588 with no mods. I have a few apps installed mainly games. I installed a 32 GB micro SD card. I have used the adapter to add music, video, DOC and PDF files. All files were added to new separate folders. I put card in with tablet off an then turn on. Nearly all folders and files end up in "lost.dir". I do get few music folders and files but 98% are gone. Am I doing this the wrong way or a way to correct this?
Does any ROM allow you to choose where to store downloads, internal vs exernal or installed apps to internal vs external memory?
I think the device only accepts up to 16GB MicroSD cards.
Thanks for responding Yarsis. I have read that several are successfully using the 32 GB cards.
Does anyone know if there is a difference between PC vs tablet formatting?
Hi,
I'm pretty sure the cards needs to be formated as FAT32 and at 2048 bytes. The issue you mention has been reported but as far as I recall proper formating should fix this.
I set my Atrix to USB mode and connected it to my PC.
I have a 32GB card (verified size BTW).
"My Computer" shows two new drives:
MB860 (G with 4.13GB free of 10.7 GB
Removable disk (H with 30.9 GB free of 30.9 GB.
Apparently, from reading the file structure G: is SDcard and H: is SDcard-ext.
If that's so, where should I be putting music, documents, etc?
i put all my media files on my extSD so apps/data will always have enough space on the intSD and for long trips i can put more videos on another extSD card
I put all music, pics, video, etc., on ext-sdcard. If for some reason you have to wipe/sbf flash, you won't have to go through the pain of putting it all back on the internal card. Also, you can if you want put the ext-sdcard into a reader on a computer which has one.
Hi guys,
i just went to media markt a german electronics store to check out the Razr. I was reading a lot on here and in online magzines, also german once, about the razr.
but i was suprised as i checked the internal memory it only showed total of 8GB and available something about 6GB
in another online magazin the wrote it has 16GB internal memory but only 12 GB available for the user. I also contacted amazon.de, because they didn't had anything on the product details how much memory. and the guy told me that it is 16Gb but 8GB already reserved for Motocast...
can you help me with this? Why does motocast need so much storage?
Motocast is the app, where i can access the media on my pc and stream it to the device, right?
thanks a lot.
I have this doubt too.I bought mine in Brazil, and it shows only 8GB of internal memory and 6 available, although after you put the SD card it runs an 'internal memory optimizer' and frees all the 8GB.
I think that maybe some sort of reservation, because if it was only the 8GB, some part of this memory would have the system files, and no matter what card you put in the system would be in this memory.But when you put the SD it frees "all" the internal memory.Someone knows how is this possible???
There's 16gb memory on board.
About 4 gigs are reserved for the system, the other 4 gigs are for apps internal storage.
The internal app 2 sd partition is due to many android phones suffering from slow app loading through the SD port.
The system has 4gigs reserved due to the webtop interface, temp storage for the browser and such. And the full android system of course.
The available storage partition, that saves photos etc should be exactly 8 gb free, unless you've downloaded stuff to it. You are free to format the internal storage so nothing important is on that.
Verizon adds a 16gb sd card too, most other markets do not get a sd card.
But they're cheap.
it is just weired because i was reading in an reaview that they hat 12gb for user use...? and somebody else was claiming the other 8gb are reserved for motocast. what is this anyway?
but if the make announcments like this: 16 internal memory, i expect something like 11-12 for the user. i know the system needs stuff and so on. but what does it helf me if the write 124 gb internal memory and they use 120, so i only would have 4 left...they should expand the storage then. it is irritating...
Snake-Plissken said:
it is just weired because i was reading in an reaview that they hat 12gb for user use...? and somebody else was claiming the other 8gb are reserved for motocast. what is this anyway?
but if the make announcments like this: 16 internal memory, i expect something like 11-12 for the user. i know the system needs stuff and so on. but what does it helf me if the write 124 gb internal memory and they use 120, so i only would have 4 left...they should expand the storage then. it is irritating...
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I think that review considered the app2sd partition as "user available"
Sorry, but there's always an SD port, up to 64gb extra
Snake-Plissken said:
it is just weired because i was reading in an reaview that they hat 12gb for user use...? and somebody else was claiming the other 8gb are reserved for motocast. what is this anyway?
but if the make announcments like this: 16 internal memory, i expect something like 11-12 for the user. i know the system needs stuff and so on. but what does it helf me if the write 124 gb internal memory and they use 120, so i only would have 4 left...they should expand the storage then. it is irritating...
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you have 12gb for use
4 only for apps, and 8 as internal sd...
that's 12gb
Several gigs are also taken up by Webtop.
If you run df command, you can see hw the 16GB is being partitioned.
Code:
$ adb shell 'df '
Filesystem Size Used Free Blksize
/dev 464M 328K 463M 4096
/mnt/asec 464M 0K 464M 4096
/mnt/obb 464M 0K 464M 4096
/system 770M 458M 312M 1024
/pds 3M 1M 2M 1024
/preinstall 8M 1M 7M 1024
/data 3G 164M 3G 4096
/cache 708M 16M 691M 4096
/osh 1G 836M 474M 2048
/mnt/sdcard 8G 1G 6G 8192
/mnt/secure/asec: Permission denied
/mnt/sdcard/.android_secure: Cross-device link
/mnt/sdcard 8G 1G 6G 8192
But, after filtering,
Code:
$ adb shell 'mount' | grep 'ext3\|vfat' | awk '{print $2}' | while read d; do adb shell "df $d" | grep $d; done
/system 770M 458M 312M 1024
/pds 3M 1M 2M 1024
/preinstall 8M 1M 7M 1024
/data 3G 164M 3G 4096
/cache 708M 16M 691M 4096
/osh 1G 836M 474M 2048
/mnt/sdcard 8G 1G 6G 8192
IMHO, the reason /mnt/sdcard partition is on VFAT is, because, it make easier for Windows PC to access the /sdcard content via mass storage support. That's why GNex doesn't support Mass Storage mode, because of the exclusion of vfat FS.
Note; The /osh directory has the UBUNTU distro for webtop. Coool!
ok, and if i have a sd card inserted and apps want to write to sd card, like for their temp-files or whatever they usally store on a sd card, they will write to the internal memory first (sd-card) and if this one is full they will automatilly write to the micro sd (sd-card-ext)? or how does it work? because i would like to use for the app settins and stuff the internal memory, because i think it will be a bit faster...but if this one is full what happens, if i install another app?
Dont know much , but I have seen when I insert the SD card, then the phone starts up something called Memory optimizer, which would copy the contents from the internal memory to the SD card free up the internal memory....
So I think , the preference is like, SD-card(ext) first and then internal memory...
Hope I understood ur query correctly..
App storage is always internal, never on ext-sd, MAYBE if you made an ext-partition?
But IMO, best solution since then apps won't break if you pull out your SD card.
And your apps with data stays throughout system updates.
temp files, android data, general folders with rubbish random names, like extra downloaded game data, is on the internal SD partition.
I found my SD card being Very hard to navigate on my old XT720 because of all the extra folders.
Music from motocast defaults to internal as well.
As it looks to me, any data that is replaceable defaults to internal memory.
In case phone breaks, this is always good.
Ext-sd defaults with irreplacable data, like photos and videos.
Really thought through stuff.
BTW, installed apps are stored in /data 3GB partition, and we still need to do the 'housekeeping' to keep it at a healthy and usable free space size.
After reading this thread, I am wondering if anyone can help me understand this a little further. According to these posts, I should see approx 6gb available. I just purchased my RAZR today, and I do indeed see both total space and available space at 8gb. But above all of that is the Application storage available space, which reads 2.4gb. Can someone explain to me this allocated storage?
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I think I just answered my own question...
Anyway Android can push some portion of the apps to /sdcard partition, similar to APP2SD. Look at Manage App for yourself.
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i have one question......there is a folder name Android/data which contains all the data needed for apps and games but it is present on internal storage ie mnt/SD but the game size is 1.5GB so i was wondering how to move this folder aka Android/data to my 16GB SD card which is mounted as SD-ext.....so any solutions for this? and after moving this folder will it effect the other apps?
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ok, and if i have a sd card inserted and apps want to write to sd card, like for their temp-files or whatever they usally store on a sd card, they will write to the internal memory first (sd-card) and if this one is full they will automatilly write to the micro sd (sd-card-ext)? or how does it work? because i would like to use for the app settins and stuff the internal memory, because i think it will be a bit faster...but if this one is full what happens, if i install another app?
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i don't think you will never have memory problems...
i have 30 40 games installed, some with 3d data....
and 1gb navigator maps
and i have 5 gigs left
i think it's really hard to go over 8gb... if you have 10 gameloft games, you are going to occupy somewhere near 4gb...in the remaining 4gb you can install entire market Lol
navigator and games are the only apps wich have more than 100mb data...
and for those there are mods (for example sygic in a xml file) or apps (for many gameloft games for example) wich move data on external sd...
usually i use sd for my data, photos, videos, music etc
if i will ever need space, i'll move gps and games on the external sd
a class 10 external sd is much more than enough for every app
Snake-Plissken said:
it is just weired because i was reading in an reaview that they hat 12gb for user use...? and somebody else was claiming the other 8gb are reserved for motocast. what is this anyway?
but if the make announcments like this: 16 internal memory, i expect something like 11-12 for the user. i know the system needs stuff and so on. but what does it helf me if the write 124 gb internal memory and they use 120, so i only would have 4 left...they should expand the storage then. it is irritating...
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100% agree with u. i checked memory details of moto droid razr's specification on net and motorola mentioned everywhere there this device has 16 gb memory but when i got it yesterday and after starting m shocked that motorola cheated me. :-( i have used many other mobiles including iphone4 which has 16 gb memory and i can use 13.7 gb. rest of 2.3 gb is used for applications/software installing and ''iTUNE''...but what is the point to mention that device has ''16 GB'' even mobile shows total space is 8 gb....
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100% agree with u. i checked memory details of moto droid razr's specification on net and motorola mentioned everywhere there this device has 16 gb memory but when i got it yesterday and after starting m shocked that motorola cheated me. :-( i have used many other mobiles including iphone4 which has 16 gb memory and i can use 13.7 gb. rest of 2.3 gb is used for applications/software installing and ''iTUNE''...but what is the point to mention that device has ''16 GB'' even mobile shows total space is 8 gb....
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They confuse specs IMO, it's 16GB on die, but "user accessible" should always be declared (Usually is)
Also, the Verizon phones get a free 16GB SD card, which is where most of this confusion lies.
it has 8gb internal memory and nearly 3.6 gb for applications and remaining for the system and os
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it has 8gb internal memory and nearly 3.6 gb for applications and remaining for the system and os
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yep, it actually has 16gb. its just partitioned out :/
i brought micro sd card for my phone it has phone memory 500 mb sd card 2 gb cant remove it and i buyed 16 gb so i want to install apps on my phone to new 16 gb card so i cant do it when i want to change preferred install location here is only 1st phone storage and 2nd 2gb card so what do to install apps on 16 gb card?
P.S i can delete write files on 16 gb card
Are you saying your phone has 2GB internal memory or a 2GB removable SD card? If it's a removable card, all you need to do is copy all the files to a folder on your computer, put the 16GB card in your phone, format it, then copy everything back from the comp to phone.
If the 2GB memory is internal (noted as 'SD card' by the system in some devices), then by default apps are installed here and not on the external SD card (removable card). There are ways to do it though, but they are phone specific and depend on whether a dev has made such a method work for your phone.
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2gb card cant be removed so it it fixed http://www.note2forum.com/forum/galaxy-note-2-hacking-mods/80-move-apps-sd-card-directory-bind.html
Hi,
I have a ZOPO ZP900 with a 16 GB SD card and just bought a SANDISK Ultra 64 GB micro SDXC class 10 UHS-1 that was recommended in a thread in a ZOPO forum that went "dead" for maintenance a few days ago...
Apparently all was well. I reformatted the new SD card on the phone, copied all the data on the old 16 GB to the new 64 GB without problems. Did also some auto updates from the Google Store in between.
After that a gmail App update (and others) couldn't be installed because of insufficient storage space... I have a dual partition internal memory space as reported by settings/storage (2,5 GB and 83 MB total space; free 1,58 GB and 79 MB respectively) and a 64 GB SD card (59,36 GB total memory, free 46,34 GB).
So I tried to clear all caches, history, etc. Tried to move apps to SD card (same error). Therefore I tried the inverse. To choose the option to install first on the internal memory the gmail app, this time with success.
Now I've narrowed the problem to the SD card. Although reported as full memory and space available as referred above either in android system or Android Assistant App or Adao File Manager App, I cannot install anything on the card. The camera stores new photos on the card without any problems, so I think it's some other situation... The SD card reads an writes all types of files from within apps or otherwise.
I didn't need to move the apps. They were already installed in the SD card. I formated the new one inside the Zopo (to be properly formated and compatible with the 64 GB option of ZOPO) and copyed all the files hidden or otherwise from the old card to the new card. All the apps installed inf the SD card work well. They just don't install updates on the ones installed in the SD card. You have to install the updates (and the app) in internal memory.
I found out that the second internal memory partition of the ZOPO (in my case just circa 80 MB) has some files from an install in it. This appears in Android (not in all apps) as SD2 card mount. It should be empty has I recall.
Maybe when I switched the cards there was an update to a an app that was installed in this partition by default since the SD card mount wasn't available. And since then the SD card changed the memory space pointing to this mount instead (this has no space) Just guessing... sigh...
Tried also to Clear Partition Cache with CWM recovery and nothing...
Also, I get an error "/dev/block/mmcblk1p2: device not found" in LINK2SD app.
With "DiskInfo" I get :
SDCARD [MMCBLK0]
FAT mmcblk0p6 (/mnt/sdcard2) 83,2MB
SDCARD [MMCBLK1]
SD card mmcblk1p1 (/mnt/sdcard) 59,5 GB
Is the /dev/block/mmcblk1p2 the ID for the partition of the previous SD 16 GB card? How to correct this (without flashing and reseting the phone, please...)
Any help from experts would be appreciated. (If I could at least have access to the original post concerning the 64 GB cards compatibility user tests...)
Can anyone help me??? (and yes I extensively searched here and other places for info, but none appears to be related specifically to my problem...)
Thanks in advance
JCL
Anyone, please?
thanks in advance,
JCL
No one @ the Help Desk?!?!?
[partial solution] insufficient storage space
Well... after several attempts including factory resets, several format options of the sd card, etc., I got it working but not the way it should be.
fact: The partition created for this 64Gb card always got an ID of 98 to 101 (high number).
what (partially) worked:
- use an root explorer app (root explorer app would be fine) with access RW to "etc" root folder and specifically to the "vold.fstab" file (i recomend you save this original file under a different name, e.g. "vold.fstab.bak".
- for some reason sdcard2 partition is read by the system as a sdcard partition where apps coul be installed. I tried the usual tricks of swapping them one another in the "vold.fstab" file without success. Tried to hide sddcard2 partition (I don't need it anyway...) without success. The only thing that worked was the rerout of sdcard2 to the 64GB partition card..
Change this (or equivalent) only on 2nd line (in RED) a 1 to 0 on "vold.fstab" (see the beginning of the file for explanations on the functions/variables):
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dev_mount sdcard /mnt/sdcard [email protected] /devices/platform/goldfish_mmc.0 /devices/platform/mtk-sd.0/mmc_host
dev_mount sdcard2 /mnt/sdcard2 auto /devices/platform/goldfish_mmc.1 /devices/platform/mtk-sd.1/mmc_host
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to
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dev_mount sdcard /mnt/sdcard [email protected] /devices/platform/goldfish_mmc.0 /devices/platform/mtk-sd.0/mmc_host
dev_mount sdcard2 /mnt/sdcard2 auto /devices/platform/goldfish_mmc.0 /devices/platform/mtk-sd.1/mmc_host
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It's working partially because some file explorer apps dont' give you direct access to all the data stored in the sd card partition as before. You have to go trough \mnt\sdcard\ and/or \mnt\asec\ to get the full data stored on the sd card (part in one, part on another). You can still have full access trough usb mount from the PC to the 2 partitions, tough..
For safety reason I've done prior a full backup and factory reset...
- Full Backup with Titanium BAckup Pro.
- Copy all SD data to PC
- Backup of people data to .csv, and saved it to PC (mine is not in sync with gmail and Titanium failed to restore it well)
- factory reset through CWM and format SD card
- Upon restart upgrade Superuser app after inserting your gmail account
- restore Titanium backup and all other data.
Someone who can find a more fine tune and enlightened solution, please come forward...