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is that when it comes to android, always buy the goddamn flagship.
"OH YES 720p with that processor means this phone will be so smooth and battery life should be great" but here I am a couple months later with a phone that takes 10 seconds to open the recent apps menu. Samsung just does not have the time to regulate and quality control these lower range phones when they've got like 4 flagships to prioritise.
btw, I have 10gb of memory free, play no demanding games and have no more than 20 apps installed. Still a joke.
Note to self, when it comes to android phones, do not try and save money.
junaidmatlub1 said:
is that when it comes to android, always buy the goddamn flagship.
"OH YES 720p with that processor means this phone will be so smooth and battery life should be great" but here I am a couple months later with a phone that takes 10 seconds to open the recent apps menu. Samsung just does not have the time to regulate and quality control these lower range phones when they've got like 4 flagships to prioritise.
btw, I have 10gb of memory free, play no demanding games and have no more than 20 apps installed. Still a joke.
Note to self, when it comes to android phones, do not try and save money.
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Which version do your have? I have the 850M rooted and it wheels great running KK. 850A running KK is also decent.
Well techinically this phone was a real flagship at its time, lauched a little after the galaxy s5 it was the first to use the 20nm exynos chipset, it have the ISOCELL camera, 4k recording, 32gb memory, the heart rate monitor. on efficiency is only superseded by the galaxy note 4 launched several months later using the armv8 architecture, that was a real jump
the real problem of our phone it is because it was REALLY expensive at time(why so expensive i dont know), and the price only dropped years after, so even being a flagship phone, it have low priority of updates now because not so much people have this phone, why kit kat is so stable? because it was new, and samsung was caring for the phone, make it real good.
i bought one for cheap this year, i have no complaints, phone have the absolutely perfect size, i am an avid android tweaker, even tough phone runs nice even on stock configurations, the only downsides are the recent apps bugged button, sometimes it does not work, some times it works, and always respondin slowly, i got used to not using it <_>
i am really sure we will receive the marshmallow update, including the new interface.
but is really sad, that people with the first gen moto g received marshmallow about a year ago, this just show how samsung only wants to sell phones, make it "old" after some time and make you buy a new one.
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Well techinically this phone was a real flagship at its time, lauched a little after the galaxy s5 it was the first to use the 20nm exynos chipset, it have the ISOCELL camera, 4k recording, 32gb memory, the heart rate monitor. on efficiency is only superseded by the galaxy note 4 launched several months later using the armv8 architecture, that was a real jump
the real problem of our phone it is because it was REALLY expensive at time(why so expensive i dont know), and the price only dropped years after, so even being a flagship phone, it have low priority of updates now because not so much people have this phone, why kit kat is so stable? because it was new, and samsung was caring for the phone, make it real good.
i bought one for cheap this year, i have no complaints, phone have the absolutely perfect size, i am an avid android tweaker, even tough phone runs nice even on stock configurations, the only downsides are the recent apps bugged button, sometimes it does not work, some times it works, and always respondin slowly, i got used to not using it <_>
i am really sure we will receive the marshmallow update, including the new interface.
but is really sad, that people with the first gen moto g received marshmallow about a year ago, this just show how samsung only wants to sell phones, make it "old" after some time and make you buy a new one.
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What mods have you done with this phone?
The best part about this phone is the small size, light weight, and changeable battery. I can tolerate not getting MM for having these features.
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What mods have you done with this phone?
The best part about this phone is the small size, light weight, and changeable battery. I can tolerate not getting MM for having these features.
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victoram said:
Well techinically this phone was a real flagship at its time, lauched a little after the galaxy s5 it was the first to use the 20nm exynos chipset, it have the ISOCELL camera, 4k recording, 32gb memory, the heart rate monitor. on efficiency is only superseded by the galaxy note 4 launched several months later using the armv8 architecture, that was a real jump
the real problem of our phone it is because it was REALLY expensive at time(why so expensive i dont know), and the price only dropped years after, so even being a flagship phone, it have low priority of updates now because not so much people have this phone, why kit kat is so stable? because it was new, and samsung was caring for the phone, make it real good.
i bought one for cheap this year, i have no complaints, phone have the absolutely perfect size, i am an avid android tweaker, even tough phone runs nice even on stock configurations, the only downsides are the recent apps bugged button, sometimes it does not work, some times it works, and always respondin slowly, i got used to not using it <_>
i am really sure we will receive the marshmallow update, including the new interface.
but is really sad, that people with the first gen moto g received marshmallow about a year ago, this just show how samsung only wants to sell phones, make it "old" after some time and make you buy a new one.
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same feeling here, brother
No complains here (except for the too much expected MM update, which was one reason to choice this model).
More than 20 apps installed (G850F).
Battery drains very fast in mobile data mode (and also heats).
It cost 330€, which I found quite good in price/quality ratio.
Because of the fast evolution of technology, I never advise to buy immediately the high-end models. The prices on these will fall very fast within few months. The wait is quite compensatory...
(to give a lot of money for a smartphone its almost a steal...)
It seems like news surrounding this device is really, really slow. What's going on?
I've been a long-time Note user and have recently become disenchanted with the Note line. Although I am an S-Pen addict, I've always been more attracted to phones that have something really unique about them ... hence, my interest in the Phab 2 Pro. I had the LG Optimus 3D and loved the 3D features and screen, and the raw power of the phone, but the trend died out and LG stopped updating it.
Anyway, I'm not just interested in the Phab 2 Pro, I'm totally obsessed with it. Are there any other people out there who are as excited about this phone as I am?
I'm not a developer, so I'm going at this phone from a pure consumer vantage point. But I want to drum up some excitement or something ...
So what is your level of interest? Curious? Planning on developing for it? Planning on waiting in line on Day One?
I plan to be FIRST in line on Day One.
You aren't the only one. I check Google everyday...like everyday twice a day..I can't wait I've already set the money aside for it lol I want it so bad I wanted to pre-order it on August 1 just so as soon as bestbuy opens I can just walk in and grab it. Like best buy opens at 10 I'm trying to have it and be in my car by 10:10 lol
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I'm going to get one Launch day! I am amazed, very little news on this device! I too have been trawling for updates, and not much to be found!
Definitely can't wait been interested in this phone since I heard the announcement, will be putting down my nexus 6 but will still be used for VR fun. I'm also interested in Project Ara from Google but not sure if AR will be part of modular phones. My main reason for getting this phone is a bigger screen than my nexus 6 (I'm a gamer) and AR obviously. On a side note Intel is coming out with a VR & AR combo headset next year no smartphone or PC required. You can also use your naked hands to interact in the VR world.
I will am also be coming from a Nexus 6 once the Phab 2 Pro comes out. Sure would be nice for a definitive release date to be set though.
Announcement will be very soon I'm assuming, here's a video posted today, it's from a Greek website I had to use Google Translate
Translated site - http://goo.gl/SuWcR3
Original site - http://goo.gl/ybYYyi
Note 4, here. I'm anxiously awaiting this, LG V20, and to see any other announcements. I WANT this size with the high resolution. Every other huge phone has been low end garbage. I'm a huge guy, I like the size. The camera/Tango setup looks nice, too. I can actually use it
I am also checking everyday. Do you have any idea if it will be released in UK or Ireland ?
Bad news - Delays!
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Leno...cial-Project-Tango-phone-gets-delayed_id85312
I would be SUPER excited if I had even a bit of hope that Verizon will carry this phone. I doubt it, and I'm stuck in a rural area with only VZW or USCellular as my options. I had a Nexus 6, bought a used 6P (love it!) on Swappa, and I'm extremely disappointed that the next "large" Nexus or Pixel is only 5.5"! Ugh. Maybe the V20 once it's rooted...
I'm definitely getting this phone when it eventually goes on sale. The best source of information I've been able to find for updates about the phone is twitter. From everything I've read so far, it may be out by late October or sometime in November. #Phab2Pro #WaitingNeverStops
This official looking marketing video would seem to confirm a November 2016 release.
Which marketing video would that be? I have seen quite a few, though none that hint at a date.
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Which marketing video would that be? I have seen quite a few, though none that hint at a date.
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The video linked in my prior post. At the end it flashes very quickly "Available November 2016".
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The video linked in my prior post. At the end it flashes very quickly "Available November 2016".
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Ah. uMatrix was hiding the video from me.
Clay Bavor, the head of Google's VR confirmed that the Phab 2 Pro is coming in November.
https://www.cnet.com/news/google-tango-lenovo-phab-2-pro-november/
I'll be honest, it's pretty disappointing to see that so many corners were cut on the supposed flagship Google "Tango" device.
Snapdragon 652 - This processor is on par with last gen technology. It's not bad, but it's not exactly great either. That being said, don't expect it to match the iPhone 7, LG V20, or Note 7 in terms of performance.
Micro USB - Not sure what they were thinking here either. Most if not all new devices are now USB-C, yet here is a device that's implementing a last gen hardware feature. They really couldn't afford to increase the price by a couple dollars to implement a USB-C port?
LCD Screen - And the biggest disappointment of all is the lack of an AMOLED display. Nothing says "cheap Chinese phone" more than the lack of an AMOLED, which is extremely sad given that even the low end Galaxy and LG devices now sport AMOLED screens. (Hell, even Pixel has an AMOLED.)
I don't mind compromising on the first two points, but the LCD screen was a terrible decision, especially for a device labeled as "professional".
As much as I'd love to support Tango, I'm afraid this device simply cannot compete with the current flagship offerings. The gimmick is also doesn't carry enough weight to buy into this brand only to suffer with a sub-par display and Lenovo's questionable update practice.
I really hope Tango succeeds so that something more premium is made, but thus far it's looking pretty bleak.
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I'll be honest, it's pretty disappointing to see that so many corners were cut on the supposed flagship Google "Tango" device.
Snapdragon 652 - This processor is on par with last gen technology. It's not bad, but it's not exactly great either. That being said, don't expect it to match the iPhone 7, LG V20, or Note 7 in terms of performance.
Micro USB - Not sure what they were thinking here either. Most if not all new devices are now USB-C, yet here is a device that's implementing a last gen hardware feature. They really couldn't afford to increase the price by a couple dollars to implement a USB-C port?
LCD Screen - And the biggest disappointment of all is the lack of an AMOLED display. Nothing says "cheap Chinese phone" more than the lack of an AMOLED, which is extremely sad given that even the low end Galaxy and LG devices now sport AMOLED screens. (Hell, even Pixel has an AMOLED.)
I don't mind compromising on the first two points, but the LCD screen was a terrible decision, especially for a device labeled as "professional".
As much as I'd love to support Tango, I'm afraid this device simply cannot compete with the current flagship offerings. The gimmick is also doesn't carry enough weight to buy into this brand only to suffer with a sub-par display and Lenovo's questionable update practice.
I really hope Tango succeeds so that something more premium is made, but thus far it's looking pretty bleak.
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I agree that the micro-usb is outdated. But, at least i'm still able to use all my old charging cables.
Anyhow, I just received the Phab2 (base), and while this model has a different screen supposedly, it is very clear and bright. moreso than i was expecting. if the low end version is this good, the pro must be pretty swell.
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I agree that the micro-usb is outdated. But, at least i'm still able to use all my old charging cables.
Anyhow, I just received the Phab2 (base), and while this model has a different screen supposedly, it is very clear and bright. moreso than i was expecting. if the low end version is this good, the pro must be pretty swell.
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So where are you using this phone and on what service? I'm interested in the phab 2 pro but have never used a phone not supported by any carriers and they will never support a larger than 6 inch phone. It seems that this should work for at&t but I'm a little surprised people don't talk about the lack of carrier support a little more. I wonder if that is why it got delayed. Lowes and Best Buy have to figure out how to sell unsupported phones to people who have never bought one.
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So where are you using this phone and on what service? I'm interested in the phab 2 pro but have never used a phone not supported by any carriers and they will never support a larger than 6 inch phone. It seems that this should work for at&t but I'm a little surprised people don't talk about the lack of carrier support a little more. I wonder if that is why it got delayed. Lowes and Best Buy have to figure out how to sell unsupported phones to people who have never bought one.
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as of now, i switched from a t-mobile(metro pcs) phone to this and am on 4g only in the US, Florida specifically. I will hopefully be going to at&t next week, assuming i have time. regardless, 4g has been enough for the time being, but i don't like paying for LTE and not getting it.
my guess would be that upon release, all models will become either an AT&T exclusive or at least be advertised by AT&T, but i still can't even confirm the LTE bands this phone uses. Lenovo tech support says 1900, 1700 and 700, but he had googled it, as they don't have spec data yet, apparently.
Hello
Am thinking of getting the mate 10 pro (north america ver). It looks as price and specs wise is pretty good.
Would u owners of the phone recommend of buying it?
Thx in advance
Nope, I'd buy s8 instead or something else like onpleus 7t with even better cpu if available for same price.
They both should offer better performance, mate 10 pro throttles like crazy - to the point where it constantly is above throttling point of 37° C
Just a normal use keeps your device at 40/41° C, few more degrees, at 45° C iirc and your performance dips even further.
They cheaped out on cooling solutions and it hurts really bad, even in every day tasks. You throttle before you even step into cpu/gpu heavy applications, once inside you get horrendous performance out of a cpu that should be able to push 90% of the content at stable 60 fps.
I'm thinking of modifying mine but the design choices make it really hard to do so ?
So yeah, on paper it looks nice but expect real world performance to be much much worse than what you see in comparisons between snapdragon 835 ( I'm not sure if that's the one s8 has) and kirin 970. It's not worth the money when what you get performs like lower class cpu of not even worse - 99% of the time due to poor thermal relief methods.
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Nope, I'd buy s8 instead or something else like onpleus 7t with even better cpu if available for same price.
They both should offer better performance, mate 10 pro throttles like crazy - to the point where it constantly is above throttling point of 37° C
Just a normal use keeps your device at 40/41° C, few more degrees, at 45° C iirc and your performance dips even further.
They cheaped out on cooling solutions and it hurts really bad, even in every day tasks. You throttle before you even step into cpu/gpu heavy applications, once inside you get horrendous performance out of a cpu that should be able to push 90% of the content at stable 60 fps.
I'm thinking of modifying mine but the design choices make it really hard to do so ?
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I bought the Mate 10 Pro (BLA-L29) new in February 2020 and have not looked back since as it suits my usage perfectly. In the end it is your choice, as our usage patterns are definitely different. I mainly use it for the excellent camera, have it on a HDMI dock during the day as a light usage laptop via desktop experience. Some Asphalt 9 (which does heat up the phone on best quality) and some 1080p movies at night. Being 2017 model, it might be deemed "old"; it does do what it is supposed to excellently though.
Awaiting the Emui 10 update that should drop this month in South Africa. Good luck with your decision.
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I bought the Mate 10 Pro (BLA-L29) new in February 2020 and have not looked back since as it suits my usage perfectly. In the end it is your choice, as our usage patterns are definitely different. I mainly use it for the excellent camera, have it on a HDMI dock during the day as a light usage laptop via desktop experience. Some Asphalt 9 (which does heat up the phone on best quality) and some 1080p movies at night. Being 2017 model, it might be deemed "old"; it does do what it is supposed to excellently though.
Awaiting the Emui 10 update that should drop this month in South Africa. Good luck with your decision.
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That, but keep in mind that custom ROMs is a no go with this phone or any other Huawei models. Or remove or bloatware from Huawei.
If the above are important to you maybe OnePlus?
In the end is up to you. If you've found a perfect offer and you do not care about unlocked bootloaders, custom ROMs, rooting etc, then go for it. Great camera for the price.
base how you use this phone. you just call and massage, game or take some photos at the same time. keep use it.
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I bought the Mate 10 Pro (BLA-L29) new in February 2020 and have not looked back since as it suits my usage perfectly. In the end it is your choice, as our usage patterns are definitely different. I mainly use it for the excellent camera, have it on a HDMI dock during the day as a light usage laptop via desktop experience. Some Asphalt 9 (which does heat up the phone on best quality) and some 1080p movies at night. Being 2017 model, it might be deemed "old"; it does do what it is supposed to excellently though.
Awaiting the Emui 10 update that should drop this month in South Africa. Good luck with your decision.
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Sure enough, each to themselves ?
But the fact remains that even for your light use a different phone would bring much smoother experience.
We are not really spoiled for choice in South Africa in regards to phones. Mobile companies here are mainly pushing newest iphones, huaweis and Samsungs at premium contract prices locked down for 36 months (for some). And at the other side of the price spectrum some really nasty cheap ones. We don't get many Xiaomi notes here (my previous one was Mido RN4), so it really was a no-brainer to get the Mate 10 Pro at 2 to 3 times less cost. Sucks that the bootloader is locked though, would have liked to run AICP or AEX
as a backup phone for sure i will choose mate 10(not pro version) , because it suite all i need ,i got a brand new old stock mate 10 for cheap price $139 at my country and its still on ancient firmware where i can unlock the bootloader using dc unlock .
Thank u all for ur helpful insights. Current am using mate 9, but I think I ma go for mate 20 although much more expensive then mate 10
Peace
Looking for a good all around phone,
Needs to have speed and a good camera
just boughtit earlier today, worth it imo unless you have access to k20 pro. In my country K20 Pro and k20 considered illegal(need to check the official mi website, if its there based on your country,its legal. in my case there is no K20 and k20 pro in my country) so i can't buy it (i do can buy but it will have imei problem and the device can't be used anymore after 14 days)
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Looking for a good all around phone,
Needs to have speed and a good camera
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Don't know what country you are from bro, but here's my take.
The Poco is still an amazing phone that holds up to this date. It has the latest Q software and current MIUI 11, which should be updated to MIUI 12 this year. This is a company that took care of the original buyers (since Poco originally under xiaomi) by providing updates up to this day. Sure it's not perfect, but what device and manufacturer is. But note that this may be the last update we are going to get. This is almost a 2 year old phone, and as you know most manufacturers don't even provide a 3rd major update (this was an exception). Don't fret though as this is a phone that a lot of enthusiasts have and a lot are still making ROMS for this phone, so even if we may not get an update beyond this year, we may still get some from the devs here.
Another point to take is that this phone is still a beast. Forget those guys who claims their phones slow down etc, most of them rely on benchmarks which is not always the way to see whether a phone is bad or not. Based on personal experiences, I've rarely experienced any lags on this phone and neither had any touch issues. Btw, I've unlocked the phone and rooted, but aside from substratum and lucky patcher for some games, I've seldom made any other changes on it (of course providing root access to greenify and sd cleaner, but nothing major like adding xposed and such). This may be why I've never had such issues because as you know if you have altered the phone a lot, complications may arise if you update.
So like i said, this phone holds up. I play NBA2K20, Asphalt, Pubg and other mobile intensive games and rarely experienced any major issues. The sd845 holds up.
As for cams, that may be the weakest point of this phone. I mean for the price it is great. It provides a solid enough cam experience that you can use it to capture good photos for insta and fb. But it won't blow you away. The front cam is great. The IR Cam is so useful in any situation to unlock the phone whether it's on your desk, even in the dark.
Battery life holds up nicely. Sure it doesn't give me a long life like before, but during intense gaming of about 3 hours, I still have about 25 to 30 percent left. The charging is good too. It's not as blazing fast as most phones today, but should suffice.
That said. Here's a major talking point. The phone is old, it shows in the cam and possibly no further major update (aside from maybe security patches), but you can rely on xda devs to provide support still. But if you can get your hands on a K20 Pro or K30 Pro, then get your hands on them. Not only will you get either last year's phone with about a year or two more of updates, but updated specs, or the current redmi flagship killer with about 2 years to 3 (if they follow the current poco trend) but you'd have a future proof phone as it has 5G and a more versatile cam array with the latest processor.
This depends on your budget too. If you're looking for a lower price than the last year redmi or current, then I'd go with the Poco than latest midrangers due to the power of the SD845, I'm not a cam user much anyway. But if you need a better cam and not much into power then the current midrangers can offer that for you and I'm not disparaging midrangers, the current processors are powerful, but not yet to the power of the sd845 despite it being a 2 to 3 year old processor
Just got it this week, working great! I had less budget and great expectations!!
So got myself a 8gb armored edition!
I am not big fan of taking selfies and pics.
Poco f1 has got update to Android 10. The snap 845 is still being used by some premium phones.
I've got a Pixel 6 pre-ordered, using it as my main phone since launch. My experience with random bugs, but especially frustrating Bluetooth devices randomly disappearing or being forgotten, random Bluetooth disconnections and so on have frustrated me beyond belief!
I stopped using Samsung phones back in the Note 2 era as Samsung when on a tangent and lost their marbles, and before my Pixel 6 I was using a Xiaomi Mi 11, which was an excellent hardware, but I could not get on with their buggy mess and poorly implemented dark mode forcing apps and making buttons disappear as consequence. Never again...
Now the Pixel 6 is making me feel the same way, a frustrating half-baked phone which was meant to be exactly the opposite, it should be the flagship Google phone with the latest and most polished software, not this mess.
So I'm considering perhaps moving to a Samsung flagship, but I've no idea if their software will be any better. I'm definitely not going for the Chinese brands anymore, Oneplus lost its way, Xiaomi is a proper mess, Realme and others also not worth considering. Ah, I evne forgot to mention I had an Asus ROG phone once, excellent phone but very slow update cycles, another disappointment.
So what is left for me to try? A Samsung flagship that promises 4 years of updates? The reality is that I'll keep the phone for 2 or 3 years max anyway, but nice that samsnung is finally focusing on providing updates more quickly. Or, go back to an iPhone and forget all this mess, but I'm way more keen on keeping an Android phone due to its flexibility.
Any thoughts guys?
i know how ya feel mephisto.. it was either a samsung A53 or pixel 6a for my budget and the 6a came in £100 cheaper ( argos offer ) so far i have 2 issues . first of all the battery life reminds me of my old galaxy s5 .. lucky to last a full day and I'm not a heavy user either . I've read it settles down after a while once it gets to know your usage patterns , then again I've never really seen that happen in previous phones . And secondly the camera .. yes its good but the jpg compression is way too heavy . I've installed and tuned up bigkakas 8.4 gcam mod and it's pulling out a lot more fine detail than stock . they should give users more options as far as the camera goes.
anyway it still blows the redmi note 11 out of the water so i suppose i shouldn't complain .. but i do
I wonder if I'm alone feeling this disappointed and if there are any good alternatives
It is a result of market expectations (imho). The number of people interested in customizing and tweaking their device is too small to get the attention of the manufacturers. They will target their preferred (ie easiest) audience, and whoever isn't in that audience will have to deal with the results.
i am hugely disappointed in my s6. battery life is poor at best uses 1.5% an hour if i don't touch the device. ( my other 3 phones only use 0.3% an hour, same sim , same service, same place). battery use while on at 5-6% is pretty good.there have been bugs since day one. the camera was advertised as 50mp but software makes it 12mp, that was annoying. and developer support on xda is just ok.
i should have bought the last pixel5