Phone worked good in water. Had to hit the volume button to take the picture.
After take your Spen out for a little while. Ha ha I took my Spen out a couple of minutes ago and it water in it.
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After take your Spen out for a little while. Ha ha I took my Spen out a couple of minutes ago and it water in it.
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Have you had other Samsung Phones that were waterproof? Wondering how well the oleo phobic coating holds up after being submerged in that type of water. I was tempted to take it into the water last weekend...but I had no reason to so I didn't, hahaha.
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Have you had other Samsung Phones that were waterproof? Wondering how well the oleo phobic coating holds up after being submerged in that type of water. I was tempted to take it into the water last weekend...but I had no reason to so I didn't, hahaha.
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It still feels fine. Just like it did before I took it in the water. Now I did not keep it in the water all day. Just for a couple of minutes.
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Have you had other Samsung Phones that were waterproof? Wondering how well the oleo phobic coating holds up after being submerged in that type of water. I was tempted to take it into the water last weekend...but I had no reason to so I didn't, hahaha.
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I've taken my S7 Edge and S8 swimming before and noticed no changes in the screen coating whatsoever.
I haven't taken my N8 swimming yet.
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Don't forget to read the Samsung user guide before you take your Note 8 swimming. Just a heads up.
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Phone worked good in water. Had to hit the volume button to take the picture.
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What is the water resistance on your beautiful Rolex Oyster?
Ryland. :good:
Ryland Johnson said:
What is the water resistance on your beautiful Rolex Oyster?
Ryland. :good:
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12,800 ft
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What is the water resistance on your beautiful Rolex Oyster?
Ryland. :good:
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Or 3900 m
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Or 3900 m
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"DEEPSEA TEST TANK
Extreme depths
To guarantee the water resistance of the Rolex Deepsea divers' watch to the extreme depth of 3,900 metres (12,800 feet), Rolex tests every single one made in a specially designed high-performance tank. This stainless steel hyperbaric tank is cast in a single piece and weighs 1.3 tonnes. It simulates the pressure at 4,875 metres (16,000 feet) below sea level, some 25 percent greater than the depth indicated on the dial. At this depth, the force exerted upon the watch is equivalent to a weight of 4.5 tonnes. This test could be destructive, meaning that the slightest weakness in a watch would cause it to implode. Obviously, all Rolex Deepsea watches offered for sale have survived it."
This is one of a handful of watches that are so tested in official labs with highly qualified engineers.
I will now show the official watch industry water resistance table:
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"Water resistance classification
Watches are often classified by watch manufacturers by their degree of water resistance which, due to the absence of official classification standards, roughly translates to the following (1 metre ≈ 3.29 feet). These vagueries have since been superseded by ISO 22810:2010, in which "any watch on the market sold as water-resistant must satisfy ISO 22810 – regardless of the brand." [5]
Water resistance rating Suitability Remarks
Water Resistant 3 atm or 30 m Suitable for everyday use. Splash/rain resistant. Not suitable for showering, bathing, swimming, snorkeling, water related work, fishing, and diving.
Water Resistant 5 atm or 50 m Suitable for swimming, white water rafting, and fishing. Not suitable for diving and snorkeling.
Water Resistant 10 atm or 100 m Suitable for recreational surfing, swimming, snorkeling, sailing and water sports. Not suitable for diving.
Water Resistant 20 atm or 200 m Suitable for professional marine activity, serious surface water sports and skin diving. Suitable for skin diving.
Diver's 100 m Minimum ISO standard (ISO 6425) for scuba diving at depths not suitable for saturation diving. Diver's 100 m and 150 m watches are generally old(er) watches.
Diver's 200 m or 300 m Suitable for scuba diving at depths not suitable for saturation diving. Typical ratings for contemporary diver's watches.
Diver's 300+ m for mixed-gas diving Suitable for saturation diving (helium enriched environment). Watches designed for mixed-gas diving will have the DIVER'S WATCH xxx M FOR MIXED-GAS DIVING additional marking to point this out."
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As you can read "Water Resistant 3 atm or 30 m. Suitable for everyday use. Splash/rain resistant. Not suitable for showering, bathing, swimming, snorkeling, water related work, fishing, and diving." Rating 30M yet its only splash proof!
and.....
"Water Resistant 20 atm or 200 m. Suitable for professional marine activity, serious surface water sports and skin diving. Suitable for skin diving." Rating 200M yet in reality only fir for water sports and skin diving!
From this one can clearly see how the actual rating on the rear of ones watch is a complete joke.
A handful are exceptions like yours that is why I asked you about it. I come from a family of horologists and though watches are another one of my vices I am not a horologist myself. I have been saying for decades how the watch industry screws the consumer with these highly misleading water resistance ratings etched onto the rear of the case.
Same principle applies to our mobiles. The ratings are very VERY misleading. Add to that sea water or swimming pool water and the chemicals or salt will, over time, ruin the water resistant membranes of the mobile.
I will not start to write about the physics of static water pressure at small depths V water pressure at immersion levels when force of movement is added such as a swimmers arm. Swimming with a mobile places immense pressure on the device even at 1" depth. This is due to water pressure through movement not static depth. Enough already.
The best respectful advice I would give any mobile owner is to treat the 'water resistance' as merely splash or wet hand proof. Nothing more. Its a complex situation. Original Sony Z owners know all about it lol. Sony lost a massive client base over that fiasco and Sony themselves considered closing their mobile division.
Ryland
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"DEEPSEA TEST TANK
Extreme depths
To guarantee the water resistance of the Rolex Deepsea divers' watch to the extreme depth of 3,900 metres (12,800 feet), Rolex tests every single one made in a specially designed high-performance tank. This stainless steel hyperbaric tank is cast in a single piece and weighs 1.3 tonnes. It simulates the pressure at 4,875 metres (16,000 feet) below sea level, some 25 percent greater than the depth indicated on the dial. At this depth, the force exerted upon the watch is equivalent to a weight of 4.5 tonnes. This test could be destructive, meaning that the slightest weakness in a watch would cause it to implode. Obviously, all Rolex Deepsea watches offered for sale have survived it."
This is one of a handful of watches that are so tested in official labs with highly qualified engineers.
I will now show the official watch industry water resistance table:
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"Water resistance classification
Watches are often classified by watch manufacturers by their degree of water resistance which, due to the absence of official classification standards, roughly translates to the following (1 metre ≈ 3.29 feet). These vagueries have since been superseded by ISO 22810:2010, in which "any watch on the market sold as water-resistant must satisfy ISO 22810 – regardless of the brand." [5]
Water resistance rating Suitability Remarks
Water Resistant 3 atm or 30 m Suitable for everyday use. Splash/rain resistant. Not suitable for showering, bathing, swimming, snorkeling, water related work, fishing, and diving.
Water Resistant 5 atm or 50 m Suitable for swimming, white water rafting, and fishing. Not suitable for diving and snorkeling.
Water Resistant 10 atm or 100 m Suitable for recreational surfing, swimming, snorkeling, sailing and water sports. Not suitable for diving.
Water Resistant 20 atm or 200 m Suitable for professional marine activity, serious surface water sports and skin diving. Suitable for skin diving.
Diver's 100 m Minimum ISO standard (ISO 6425) for scuba diving at depths not suitable for saturation diving. Diver's 100 m and 150 m watches are generally old(er) watches.
Diver's 200 m or 300 m Suitable for scuba diving at depths not suitable for saturation diving. Typical ratings for contemporary diver's watches.
Diver's 300+ m for mixed-gas diving Suitable for saturation diving (helium enriched environment). Watches designed for mixed-gas diving will have the DIVER'S WATCH xxx M FOR MIXED-GAS DIVING additional marking to point this out."
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As you can read "Water Resistant 3 atm or 30 m. Suitable for everyday use. Splash/rain resistant. Not suitable for showering, bathing, swimming, snorkeling, water related work, fishing, and diving." Rating 30M yet its only splash proof!
and.....
"Water Resistant 20 atm or 200 m. Suitable for professional marine activity, serious surface water sports and skin diving. Suitable for skin diving." Rating 200M yet in reality only fir for water sports and skin diving!
From this one can clearly see how the actual rating on the rear of ones watch is a complete joke.
A handful are exceptions like yours that is why I asked you about it. I come from a family of horologists and though watches are another one of my vices I am not a horologist myself. I have been saying for decades how the watch industry screws the consumer with these highly misleading water resistance ratings etched onto the rear of the case.
Same principle applies to our mobiles. The ratings are very VERY misleading. Add to that sea water or swimming pool water and the chemicals or salt will, over time, ruin the water resistant membranes of the mobile.
I will not start to write about the physics of static water pressure at small depths V water pressure at immersion levels when force of movement is added such as a swimmers arm. Swimming with a mobile places immense pressure on the device even at 1" depth. This is due to water pressure through movement not static depth. Enough already.
The best respectful advice I would give any mobile owner is to treat the 'water resistance' as merely splash or wet hand proof. Nothing more. Its a complex situation. Original Sony Z owners know all about it lol. Sony lost a massive client base over that fiasco and Sony themselves considered closing their mobile division.
Ryland
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Trust me I don't dive. Only swim and I don't make it a habit to bring any of my watches in the water. This was the first and probably the last time I will put this phone in the water. Just wanted to test it out. The pictures were for my Facebook DSSD community. Phones and watches are my thing too.
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Trust me I don't dive. Only swim and I don't make it a habit to bring any of my watches in the water. This was the first and probably the last time I will put this phone in the water. Just wanted to test it out. The pictures were for my Facebook DSSD community. Phones and watches are my thing too.
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I understand completely. :good:
I don't take any of my watch collection near water. I don't even take them off in the bathroom and leave them there due to the steam! We are fortunate to own a tiny micro % of watches that can actually outperform the rating on the rear of the watch case! 99.9% of watches cannot, in reality, reach the depth rated on the back as shown in the table. Its rather a scandal yet the watch industry has NO OFFICIAL monitoring body for water resistance.
Oh, when I do go swimming I use a G-shock Gulfmaster. Very tough electronic time piece. Nice to debate with you.
BTW do you also collect pens? I can add that to my list of vices. Crap, forgot to add HiFi systems though over the past decade I have lapsed on that front! Thank heavens!
Ryland
Ryland Johnson said:
I understand completely. :good:
I don't take any of my watch collection near water. I don't even take them off in the bathroom and leave them there due to the steam! We are fortunate to own a tiny micro % of watches that can actually outperform the rating on the rear of the watch case! 99.9% of watches cannot, in reality, reach the depth rated on the back as shown in the table. Its rather a scandal yet the watch industry has NO OFFICIAL monitoring body for water resistance.
Oh, when I do go swimming I use a G-shock Gulfmaster. Very tough electronic time piece. Nice to debate with you.
BTW do you also collect pens? I can add that to my list of vices. Crap, forgot to add HiFi systems though over the past decade I have lapsed on that front! Thank heavens!
Ryland
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No I don't do pens. But I do see some very nice ones. Yeah I take very good care of my watches. I have the Rolex DSSD a Omega planet ocean 45.5mm 8500. A Omega Speedmaster 9300 and a Panerai Pam 000 G series. I just sold my Rolex Datejust 2 and my Breitling superocean 44.
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No I don't do pens. But I do see some very nice ones. Yeah I take very good care of my watches. I have the Rolex DSSD a Omega planet ocean 45.5mm 8500. A Omega Speedmaster 9300 and a Panerai Pam 000 G series. I just sold my Rolex Datejust 2 and my Breitling superocean 44.
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Omega are a superb value watch. Not a fan of the Panerai design.
As well as the high end watches I own, such as the Patek Philippe, one of my favourite's is the Lange & Sohne, I enjoy very much Oris and Tissot! I tend to use them as my daily drivers. I nearly purchased a Breguet type XXI 3880 last month but need to sell an Audermars Piguet RO first or my wife will kill me! Again! Insurance is now silly money too.
You need to start a pen collection. :highfive:
Wow are we off topic. Sorry about that.
Ryland
Ryland Johnson said:
Omega are a superb value watch. Not a fan of the Panerai design.
As well as the high end watches I own, such as the Patek Philippe, one of my favourite's is the Lange & Sohne, I enjoy very much Oris and Tissot! I tend to use them as my daily drivers. I nearly purchased a Breguet type XXI 3880 last month but need to sell an Audermars Piguet RO first or my wife will kill me! Again! Insurance is now silly money too.
You need to start a pen collection. :highfive:
Wow are we off topic. Sorry about that.
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My first started collecting watches my first automatic was a Tissot PRS 516 I still have it. I will never sell it. It's quality is that of a 2,000 dollar watch for sure. Today I think Tissot has gone a little cheap but they are still good watches. I came close to getting a Breguet type XXI a couple of months ago but it did not happen. I will get a AP Royal Oak one day. I can talk watches all day like phones. I might check some pens out and see. Thanks
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My first started collecting watches my first automatic was a Tissot PRS 516 I still have it. I will never sell it. It's quality is that of a 2,000 dollar watch for sure. Today I think Tissot has gone a little cheap but they are still good watches. I came close to getting a Breguet type XXI a couple of months ago but it did not happen. I will get a AP Royal Oak one day. I can talk watches all day like phones. I might check some pens out and see. Thanks
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The recession off 2008-present has had an awful effect on the watch trade in Europe. Even among the big three conglomerates they have had to fight an ever losing battle against digital imports now smart watches have dealt a further blow. Seiko et al started the traditional watch collapse in the late 60's early 70's with cheap digital but highly accurate watches. Took the watch industry years to recover even 20% of what it had been. Not doing so good again for some again now. Rolex isn't doing badly though but many have again gone to the wall or the 'name' been purchased by the Chinese machine. Mont Blanc have either changed hands or gone also Maurice Lacroix to name but two.
I was 11 when my mother bought me my first manual, it was a black dialled Oris. I just wanted a watch with a black dial! Smashed it to pieces in the school gym same year!
My mother ran a watch parts company that held nearly 200.000 watch pieces. One night the shop was broken into and thousands of small boxes containing tiny part where all emptied onto the floor 200,000 pieces mixed together. When they where collected they didn't fill a small bin! They never sorted them all out again, only a small %. Silly thing was they NEVER closed the till and left a small amount of cash to try and avoid such an incident. They trashed the place out of pure spit? Caused havoc in the local watch trade for over a year. People eh.
Ryland
Ryland Johnson said:
The recession off 2008-present has had an awful effect on the watch trade in Europe. Even among the big three conglomerates they have had to fight an ever losing battle against digital imports now smart watches have dealt a further blow. Seiko et al started the traditional watch collapse in the late 60's early 70's with cheap digital but highly accurate watches. Took the watch industry years to recover even 20% of what it had been. Not doing so good again for some again now. Rolex isn't doing badly though but many have again gone to the wall or the 'name' been purchased by the Chinese machine. Mont Blanc have either changed hands or gone also Maurice Lacroix to name but two.
I was 11 when my mother bought me my first manual, it was a black dialled Oris. I just wanted a watch with a black dial! Smashed it to pieces in the school gym same year!
My mother ran a watch parts company that held nearly 200.000 watch pieces. One night the shop was broken into and thousands of small boxes containing tiny part where all emptied onto the floor 200,000 pieces mixed together. When they where collected they didn't fill a small bin! They never sorted them all out again, only a small %. Silly thing was they NEVER closed the till and left a small amount of cash to try and avoid such an incident. They trashed the place out of pure spit? Caused havoc in the local watch trade for over a year. People eh.
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That must have been cool growing up in that type of business. Yeah that sucks some people's kids. I only have mechanical watches. No quartz watches for me. The only one I would have is maybe a Spring Drive. But I am not paying what they want for them. I do think Sekio really came up with something cool with that movement. I have always been fascinated by manual watches. The movement all the parts all the craftsmanship that goes into those movements its amazing.
Ryland Johnson said:
The recession off 2008-present has had an awful effect on the watch trade in Europe. Even among the big three conglomerates they have had to fight an ever losing battle against digital imports now smart watches have dealt a further blow. Seiko et al started the traditional watch collapse in the late 60's early 70's with cheap digital but highly accurate watches. Took the watch industry years to recover even 20% of what it had been. Not doing so good again for some again now. Rolex isn't doing badly though but many have again gone to the wall or the 'name' been purchased by the Chinese machine. Mont Blanc have either changed hands or gone also Maurice Lacroix to name but two.
I was 11 when my mother bought me my first manual, it was a black dialled Oris. I just wanted a watch with a black dial! Smashed it to pieces in the school gym same year!
My mother ran a watch parts company that held nearly 200.000 watch pieces. One night the shop was broken into and thousands of small boxes containing tiny part where all emptied onto the floor 200,000 pieces mixed together. When they where collected they didn't fill a small bin! They never sorted them all out again, only a small %. Silly thing was they NEVER closed the till and left a small amount of cash to try and avoid such an incident. They trashed the place out of pure spit? Caused havoc in the local watch trade for over a year. People eh.
Ryland
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That must have been cool growing up in that type of business. Yeah that sucks some people's kids. I only have mechanical watches. No quartz watches for me. The only one I would have is maybe a Spring Drive. But I am not paying what they want for them. I do think Sekio really came up with something cool with that movement. I have always been fascinated by manual watches. The movement all the parts all the craftsmanship that goes into those movements its amazing.
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That must have been cool growing up in that type of business. Yeah that sucks some people's kids. I only have mechanical watches. No quartz watches for me. The only one I would have is maybe a Spring Drive. But I am not paying what they want for them. I do think Sekio really came up with something cool with that movement. I have always been fascinated by manual watches. The movement all the parts all the craftsmanship that goes into those movements its amazing.
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I have spent hours and hours sitting looking at watch movements and pondering how the heck they made it. One reason I truly like the Lange is the way they finish off the movement. Typically Germanic as opposed to the Breguet that shows its French heritage.
Great to debate with you.
Ryland
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I have spent hours and hours sitting looking at watch movements and pondering how the heck they made it. One reason I truly like the Lange is the way they finish off the movement. Typically Germanic as opposed to the Breguet that shows its French heritage.
Great to debate with you.
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Yes they do make some beautiful watches and movements.
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I understand that it has a waterproof rating of ip67, which means it can withstand a depth of 1 meter of water for 30 minutes. This is very confusing to me. I understand how the depth plays a factor, because of the pressure, but what does time have anything to do with it? Unless the watch slowly lets water seep in, why can't it withstand a depth of 1 meter for 1 hour, or 1 week?
I can't think of any other reason why there would be a time constraint. This leads me to another point; how long does the watch have to be dry for the seepage to dry out of the internals until you can soak it again for 30min? For example, you can't just keep the watch underwater permanently and only bring it out of the water for a couple of seconds every 30 mins.
I need to understand this because I want to know if I can shower/bathe with my watch everyday. Or if I can swim with my watch every day, and if I swim for 45mins instead of 30mins will my watch stop working? (incidentally are there any swimming fitness tracker apps for the Gear s?)
Someone wears the watch in the shower daily another person swims with the watch no problem
Just be careful with swimming. The water pressure on the watch just sitting still in 1m of water will be different to the pressure that can be generated by your hand driving through the water at a decent velocity. It will also be affected by the way you wear the watch and the angle it hits the water etc.
Also, swimming in salt water may not be good for the seals or the material in general. I think they just test it in plain water with no chlorine, salt etc.
Same with showering. It should be OK, but make sure your soap/shampoo/conditioner doesn't contain anything that might damage the finish or allow the water to more easily breach the seals.
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I understand that it has a waterproof rating of ip67, which means it can withstand a depth of 1 meter of water for 30 minutes. This is very confusing to me. I understand how the depth plays a factor, because of the pressure, but what does time have anything to do with it? Unless the watch slowly lets water seep in, why can't it withstand a depth of 1 meter for 1 hour, or 1 week?
I can't think of any other reason why there would be a time constraint. This leads me to another point; how long does the watch have to be dry for the seepage to dry out of the internals until you can soak it again for 30min? For example, you can't just keep the watch underwater permanently and only bring it out of the water for a couple of seconds every 30 mins.
I need to understand this because I want to know if I can shower/bathe with my watch everyday. Or if I can swim with my watch every day, and if I swim for 45mins instead of 30mins will my watch stop working? (incidentally are there any swimming fitness tracker apps for the Gear s?)
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IP67 is a testing standard. When they say 30 minutes at 1 meter, they simply mean that during the test, they submerge the watch in 1 meter of water for 30 minutes. After the 30 minutes they disassemble the watch and if there is no water encroachment, the watch has passed the test and is allowed to display and advertise an IP67 rating. It does not mean that after 30 minutes or below 1 meter the watch will suddenly start leaking. It only means that that is how they tested it. The watch MIGHT be leak free for over 100 hours or down to 10 meters, it just hasn't been tested to that level.
Here is the information on water resistance that you'll find in the Gear S manual. I've worn my watch out running in light rain without incident, but personally I'm a little hesitant about wearing it in the shower or swimming, given the admonition to "not expose the device to water moving with force, such as water running from a tap, ocean waves, or waterfalls". Granted, my showers aren't exactly Iguazú Falls, but I currently don't have the cash to replace my Gear S in case anything happens to void the warranty.
Maintaining Water and Dust Resistance
The device may be damaged if water or dust enters the device. Follow these tips carefully to prevent damage to the device and to maintain the water- and dust-resistant performance of the device.
Do not immerse the device in water deeper than 1 m and keep it submerged for more than 30 minutes.
Do not expose the device to water moving with force, such as water running from a tap, ocean waves, or waterfalls.
If the device or your hands are wet, dry them thoroughly before handling the device.
If the device is exposed to freshwater, dry
it thoroughly with a clean, soft cloth. If the device is exposed to any liquid other than freshwater, rinse the device with freshwater
immediately and dry it thoroughly with a clean, soft cloth. Failure to rinse the device in freshwater and dry it as instructed may cause the device to suffer from operability or cosmetic issues.
If the device is dropped or receives an impact, the water-and dust-resistant features of the device may be damaged.
If the device has been immersed in water or the microphone or the speaker is wet, sound may not be heard clearly during a call. Ensure that the microphone or the speaker is clean and dry by wiping it with a dry cloth.
The touchscreen and other features may not work properly if the device is used in water or in other liquids.
Your device has been tested in a controlled environment and shown to be water-and dust-resistant in certain circumstances (meets requirements of classification IP67 as described by the international standard.
Yeah, I will treat it as weather proof, not water proof. That is occasional water on the watch is ok. Taking it to a swim or shower is not ok.
I have always worn my watches in the shower. I don't know why I do I just always have. So when I got the original gear I had a problem remembering to take it off. A couple times I had gotten all the way in before I realized I still had it on. It got wet but as soon as I realized I took it off and dried it. Never had a problem with water getting inside it. When I got my gear s I was hesitant the first couple times making sure to try and keep it out of the spray of the shower head. Now I don't even think about it. I just take it off when I'm done and dry it off with the towel. Only the I have noticed is if you get a call after its gotten wet the speaker doesn't seem quite as loud like there is still some water covering the speaker hole. Other than that no problems at all. Also when I wash my hands throughout the day l don't have to worry about it getting wet like I did the first gear I had. I'm glad the made it water resistant.
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My regular watches are rated 100-meter and no time limit. I will take that for swim or shower, not Gear S. Rusts take time to form and since it is inside the watch, you really don't know until it is dead. I will not take that chance for mine.
I'll pass on having it exposed to water, I'll just take it off
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My regular watches are rated 100-meter and no time limit. I will take that for swim or shower, not Gear S. Rusts take time to form and since it is inside the watch, you really don't know until it is dead. I will not take that chance for mine.
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Rust. Lol
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True, it's pretty confusing. Waterproof and not waterproof
I had already some bath with it, shower, running in the light rain and it still works and I hope it will stays that way.
Speaker needs to dry out though as sound is terrible. Not just quiet but TERRIBLE!
The other thing is that I would love to take Gear S on a swimming pool + sauna - what about that? Have anyone tried it?
There was a post that someone went swimming and it killed it
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eclipse05x said:
True, it's pretty confusing. Waterproof and not waterproof
I had already some bath with it, shower, running in the light rain and it still works and I hope it will stays that way.
Speaker needs to dry out though as sound is terrible. Not just quiet but TERRIBLE!
The other thing is that I would love to take Gear S on a swimming pool + sauna - what about that? Have anyone tried it?
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The key term is Water "Resistant" not Waterproof. After the thread by kamieniarz seen here ,I probably wouldnt do it. Just my $0.02 .
I take mine in the hot tub and steam room a few times a week. I've never had any issues with it, speaker or moisture under the screen or anything else. I don't keep it submerged for long and I'm careful with how quickly I move my hand under water. I've read the thread mentioned above where somebody took their watch swimming and it got water damaged and it's not surprising. Slamming your wrist into the water over and over seems like it exceeded the pressure threshold. I don't shower with it on for the same reason. My main concern is the chlorine from the hot tub turning the watchband green.
I'm not suggesting anybody out there get their Gear S wet, but if you do use discretion about when and under what conditions you expose it to water.
Don't get the Gear S too wet
I have taken it into pools, rain, shower.
Sadly, during my vacation, my Gear S screen stopped working while in the water. I'm super cautious not to go much under water. I don't really swim with it, just walk in the water. The screen quit working. I"m super annoyed. Samsung support says it's not covered under the warranty. I also had the broken pin issue with the charging cradle. Sending it in, if they find it was water damage, then they will charge me, which I have no idea what the amount will be.
eclipse05x said:
True, it's pretty confusing. Waterproof and not waterproof
I had already some bath with it, shower, running in the light rain and it still works and I hope it will stays that way.
Speaker needs to dry out though as sound is terrible. Not just quiet but TERRIBLE!
The other thing is that I would love to take Gear S on a swimming pool + sauna - what about that? Have anyone tried it?
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Rust. Lol
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I read in many places, go swim with it, shower, etc. Wrong!
I did that for a bit, last week, stopped working in the pool. I only walk in the pool a bit, very shallow, and take showers. Even so, suddenly the screen showed strange patterns then quit working.
I thought the use case of leaving phone behind in locker or car and just go in pool with watch was awesome, but too good to be true. I actually wish they told people not to swim or take showers with it.
Agree with others, now, just use the water resistant feature as an emergency
i've showered with my Gear2 many times with no issues. because of the sim slot in the GearS, i havent chanced it yet. if the sim cover is not on correctly, or off a bit, water can get in it seems.
I was kayaking with my Gear S, it tipped over and I was in the ocean swimming with the Gear S on. I was swimming in the water trying to get back onto my kayak for at least 5 minutes. The Gear S held up well. Only issue was the speaker would crackle when it was used. After a couple days, it stopped crackling. I assume it was the speaker drying off. Zero issues. When I got home, I took it out of the band and gave everything a thorough cleaning. I popped open the sim card cover, and it was untouched by any water.
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The other thing is that I would love to take Gear S on a swimming pool + sauna - what about that? Have anyone tried it?
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It's not survivable in that environment. 2 minutes in the hot tub destroyed mine. Thankfully the CC company covered the loss, it was within 90 days.
-Read the manual, while waterproof, any pressure on the seals can cause a leak, such as thermal expansions, or exposure to water jets, and currents from swimming.
Just tested under the shower more than 20 times and I had no problem but after reading your comments I am a bit afraid now... it was also hit by some salt water without being submerged... so far so good...
This is the page of facebook samsung Italy. misleading advertising. I never open the lid to the sim. At best, I took a shower with the smartwatch roofs lean against. Mandate under warranty but Samsung refused to ensure warranty saying that she had entered into water. resumo history, they asked me 350 Euros to fix, since I paid the new gear's 350. sorry my English but I used google translator. Here in Italy I found nothing on the subject.
Hello all!
I wanted to ask if anyone has used the z5 underwater, like in a pool or the beach, to take pictures. I know it's supposed to do that but recently Sony state that regardless of the IP 68 rating, the phone must not be used in a pool since that rating was accomplish on a lab enviroment and the phone was never really tested on beach or pool conditions.
Some are saying that Sony is doing this just to avoid people using it the wrong way and then asking for a replacement but since this was the main reason why I wanted to buy it I wanted to know what's the real deal.
Thanks!!
http://support.sonymobile.com/global-en/dm/waterproof/
http://www.xperiablog.net/2015/09/10/sony-changes-stance-on-waterproof-phones-do-not-use-underwater/
Yep Sony just wants less people to ruin their phones through stupidity. Anyway, the phones work perfectly fine underwater. I've dipped it in, taken photos and blah blah. Some reviewers have taken videos underwater and so it's good to go. Chill out
Use it carefully if under the water. No sudden moves or dipping it too deep under.
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Use it carefully if under the water. No sudden moves or dipping it too deep under.
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So the sea won't be a good idea...no way you can avoid sudden moves there.
The sea is definitely not recommended due to the salt water. Even in a pool you'll have to clean it thoroughly especially if it's a saline pool instead of a chlorine pool.
I would invest in an inexpensive pouch case for water activities. It adds a little bulk but better safe than sorry.
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The sea is definitely not recommended due to the salt water. Even in a pool you'll have to clean it thoroughly especially if it's a saline pool instead of a chlorine pool.
I would invest in an inexpensive pouch case for water activities. It adds a little bulk but better safe than sorry.
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*better safe than Sony. (sorry i just had to)
What about putting it in a zip lock bag? That what I use to do when I went to the beach. I didn't put it underwater but it was some insurance incase something happened. I could still use the touch screen too. I've always wondered if photos and videos would work under water that way
Mmmm I don't like the idea of putting the phone in a case o zip lock bag cause...what's the point of buying a waterproof phone if I need to protect it like any other phone to use it underwater? I'm between phones and one of the main reasons to choose this one was the possibility to used in water so taking into account your comments...I don't know if I'm going to go for it.
Thanks a lot for your advice!
I'd take the IP68 rating with a grain of salt. At my old job I use to perform all kinds of environmental testing. The catch is that the test is in a lab under very controlled conditions and the equipment only has to operate to specific requirements. Since Sony determined its own requirements, I'm sure they skewed the test to make it easier. I wouldn't be surprised if the test was done with the phone off. I havent actually done any research on what Sony has published with their testing.
Also, There are difference between water resistance is completely different from salt corrosion. There is nothing worse than salt.
Its just like why I have a case and screen protector on the phone eventhough its suppose to be strong enough.
I just got the watch a couple of weeks ago and it was working fine till today. I just fully recharged it and turned it on. The display was partially dimmed it flickered and there were thin white lines on the screen.
I later restarted the watch but now it will just display a dark screen with thin white lines.
Tried resetting the watch again and now it wont even turn on.
The watch is waterproof so wearing it while swimming wasn't the issue?
What can i do?
Also sorry if this is the wrong section to post this, i tried the xiaomi forums but i god no help there.
Watch is water resistant, not waterproof. So swimming should be an issue.
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Watch is water resistant, not waterproof. So swimming should be an issue.
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"The tracker can withstand a maximum of 1 meter of water for up to 30 minutes. Please note, submerging your tracker beyond the maximum depth or beyond the maximum time frame could potentially harm the device and cause hardware issues."
It was a short swim on the surface of the water so i see no problem here. Also how come the watch can withstand a 30 minute water touch and can't withstand more?
the watch is NOT waterproof, and its strongly advised not to swim with it. unfortunately, your unit is KIA.
I've seen already few users that had the same experience after swimming, they had to replace the unit, and its not covered under warranty as well.
sorry :\
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"The tracker can withstand a maximum of 1 meter of water for up to 30 minutes. Please note, submerging your tracker beyond the maximum depth or beyond the maximum time frame could potentially harm the device and cause hardware issues."
It was a short swim on the surface of the water so i see no problem here. Also how come the watch can withstand a 30 minute water touch and can't withstand more?
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That's the official description of a IP67 rating and how the exact tests are done. There is the time and the water pressure that the watch must withstand (1m water pressure).
However, even just swimming, which moves the arms and add water pressure by the movement of the watch can exceed the water pressure of 1 meter easily. Also sometime, washing the watch under running water can exceed the water pressure of 1m.
And yes to @1immortal, this rating is not waterproof, it is indeed called water resistant only.
Sorry for your watch.
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That's the official description of a IP67 rating and how the exact tests are done. There is the time and the water pressure that the watch must withstand (1m water pressure).
However, even just swimming, which moves the arms and add water pressure by the movement of the watch can exceed the water pressure of 1 meter easily. Also sometime, washing the watch under running water can exceed the water pressure of 1m.
And yes to @1immortal, this rating is not waterproof, it is indeed called water resistant only.
Sorry for your watch.
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Thank you all for helping, i did though the problem was somewhere else and yes i missread the watch description in which it says it is water resistant which kinda mislead me thinking i can use it in water ( English is not my native language )
Crap. I washed my watch using the faucet. I hope no water got in.
My amazfit watch was working fine but once I switched it off its not turning on? What could be the issue.. there is a think white line appearing and its only one month
the official ads says IP68. when users face waterproof issues, suddenly everyone said it's only IP67. How come?
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the official ads says IP68. when users face waterproof issues, suddenly everyone said it's only IP67. How come?
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Where is that stated?
https://us.amazfit.com/shop/pace?variant=25112 there it states IP67
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Where is that stated?
https://us.amazfit.com/shop/pace?variant=25112 there it states IP67
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I'm not trying to be rude, but
http://amazfitcentral.com/amazfit-bip-specifications/ = IP68
https://www.gearbest.com/smart-watches/pp_962565.html = IP68
https://xiaomi-mi.com/mitu-watches/amazfit-bip-smartwatch-youth-edition-gray/ = IP68
http://www.smartwatchspecifications...it-smartwatch-youth-edition-bip-lite-version/ = IP68
and more.
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I'm not trying to be rude, but
http://amazfitcentral.com/amazfit-bip-specifications/ = IP68
https://www.gearbest.com/smart-watches/pp_962565.html = IP68
https://xiaomi-mi.com/mitu-watches/amazfit-bip-smartwatch-youth-edition-gray/ = IP68
http://www.smartwatchspecifications...it-smartwatch-youth-edition-bip-lite-version/ = IP68
and more.
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You are pointing to the Amazfit BIP, not to the Amazfit Pace.
Two completely different devices
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You are pointing to the Amazfit BIP, not to the Amazfit Pace.
Two completely different devices
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well OP doesn't state which Amazfit was it. So I just assumed. And there's a lot of people complaining their BIP is getting water inside the screen. This leave me wondering on the legibility of the ads.
Amazfit bip
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well OP doesn't state which Amazfit was it. So I just assumed. And there's a lot of people complaining their BIP is getting water inside the screen. This leave me wondering on the legibility of the ads.
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Hi all,
My amazbit bip got water inside, and I bought that as the website standed it was IP68, so don't buy that piece of liar crap.
Regards
I've worn my bip whilst washing dishes, had it 2 weeks and the brightness & back light no longer work I can only point to this as otherwise it's had a pretty easy life till now
Got exactly the same problem. The BIP watch doesn't seems to be as resistant as specification says
I got the same problem my display gets blurry 1st then it keeps getting disappear until its fully off then later i plug my watchg to charger and it comes back
i dunno whats the issue it mostly happens when i am riding my bike and the watch is exposed in the winter air
but it happens much often when the watch is expose to weather but it turns on too lol
does anyone have a fix is it software or hardware
thanks
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I got the same problem my display gets blurry 1st then it keeps getting disappear until its fully off then later i plug my watchg to charger and it comes back
i dunno whats the issue it mostly happens when i am riding my bike and the watch is exposed in the winter air
but it happens much often when the watch is expose to weather but it turns on too lol
does anyone have a fix is it software or hardware
thanks
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On my side the watch display is now dead. 2 White Spots, the light on but no display... the watch died...
I solved the problem after swimming by extensive charging. I left the watch charging for over month (forgotten because I thougth it is death). But when I switched it on it was perfectly working. I think the heat helped it. Now I have the same problem and it was just raining a little bit
Amazfit Stratos screen crash
Sorry to necro this thread...
Not sure which model OP is talking about but...
I have an Amazfit Stratos that I bought 14 months ago - July 2019 (wow, just out of warranty ). Has been working fine until I had a shower while wearing it today. Suddenly the screen went berserk (sorry for my technical jargon there) but it still buzzes for notifications. To be clear, I have been wearing it while swimming and showering and washing for the whole time I have owned it because that is what the advertising indicates it can do. In fact it brags about having a swimming tracking functions and being water resistant to 50m in pool and ocean.
So now it is sitting in a bag of rice on a radiator hoping it will dry out and work again until I buy a suitable replacement.
Just a message to Xiaomi Huami if you're paying attention and care about return business: I never buy another product from a company if something I bought dies just out of warranty. It's a really bad sign, and I know I'm not alone. It's a really bad long term business strategy unless your product is so cheap to buy that customers consider it disposable. #poop
Hi, I know that the smart watch is Ip67 protected. Up to 30 minutes maximum depth of one meter. Is it possible to swim with him in the pool without diving to depth at all and a maximum of 20-25 minutes? (swimming during breaks).
Also, which app has the swimming area that works with this watch?
Thanks.
I would say no, watches for swimming are usually rated at least 5 ATM, this is 50 meters. The problem with these ratings is that they rate pressure, and the pressure is measured when the object is motionless. When you start moving the object, the pressure increases. This is what you feel when swimming.
Check here for the classifications. Note that a 5 ATM watch doesn't even pass for snorkeling.
Personally, I wouldn't risk it.
It can withstand hand wash, rain etc.
I don't go with it into the shower
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You can swim with it - no problem. I use my for swimming from the start - actually I only take it off when charging.
1 year already -> no problem.
p.s. Do not try in see - due to the salt it could be damaged somehow. I would not try. But pools - no problem at all.
Then you are lucky, because IP67 is called water resistance, not waterproof.
http://www.trustedreviews.com/opinion/what-is-ip68-ip-ratings-explained-2947135
The second you move the watch under water, the pressure will exceed the 1.5 meter mark and the risk of a breach is quite high.
We have a lot of people here that had that happen.
Mine , after 5 months of no problem shower with it , now has less than half a day duration after swimming in a pool.
Swam with them in the pool for the test, I got them for free. As a result, they did not survive. Then I decided for myself to look for a watch that I can not take off my hands and they will not be afraid of moisture and damage.
I found this option here Casio Pro Trek PRW2500T. They passed my rigorous tests and falls and long voyages, except boiling Everything is fine with them, so they have some confidence, but I only use them for 3 months, so time will tell.
Hi guys!
even do Huawei advertises Mate 20 Pro has an IP68 certificate, on my own phone i experienced that it does not comply. After 3 dips into pool not more that 40 cm depth, water penetrated into phone!!
just to give a heads up to everybody.
Anybody else had the same problem?
when will people learn that phones are not made to be taken into a pool or run under a tap.... ip68 or not i still am not going to put my expensive device into water.
djisgod said:
when will people learn that phones are not made to be taken into a pool or run under a tap.... ip68 or not i still am not going to put my expensive device into water.
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you are very smart indeed.. i did not put it under a tap.. but the pool is a completely different thing.. doesn't matter if i took photos under water or it just fell in. The bottom line is that it should sustain water until 1,5 meters for half an hour, and it did not do that!!
IP Rating is based on test conditions of submersion in up to 1.5 meters of fresh water for up to 30 minutes.
Not a chlorinated pool. Not a filthy puddle. Not a bath filled with soapy bubbles. Not fizzy juice. Etc etc...
Test conditions. Fresh, clean, pure water and a brand new handset that's never been dropped or smacked to loosen any waterproof seals.
I hope that the idea of it being able to sustain a bit of water would save me from an accident like a glass of water being knocked over.
I certainly ain't gonna think okay it should be ok I might go for a swim. Not with a $1500 handset.
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That's too bad, I was really hoping the IP68 rating meant I could use it in the rain. Too good to be true I guess..
Huawei cut so many corners on a premium flagship costing device. I ran mine under fresh water coming from sink for 5 seconds and sounds coming from both speakers are muffled to the point of being useless. I really hope they dry. Last huawei device I buy. Terrible.
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Huawei cut so many corners on a premium flagship costing device. I ran mine under fresh water coming from sink for 5 seconds and sounds coming from both speakers are muffled to the point of being useless. I really hope they dry. Last huawei device I buy. Terrible.
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That is your fault not Huawei.
hendogg_af said:
Huawei cut so many corners on a premium flagship costing device. I ran mine under fresh water coming from sink for 5 seconds and sounds coming from both speakers are muffled to the point of being useless. I really hope they dry. Last huawei device I buy. Terrible.
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That is expected for all water proof phones, same happened to my Samsung S7 / S8 after I took them to the pool. It is not the speaker is damaged, but un-dried water is covering the outside of the speaker, thus blocking the sound. just let is dry for a while, putting it in rice helps to speed up the process as it dries the moisture faster.
I sold my GoPro after I got S7, then after about 10 swims/pool plays, S7 also started playing up. So with a M20P now, I bought back a new GoPro. Best to keep the phones out of water for a piece of mind.
mivandi3 said:
Hi guys!
even do Huawei advertises Mate 20 Pro has an IP68 certificate, on my own phone i experienced that it does not comply. After 3 dips into pool not more that 40 cm depth, water penetrated into phone!!
just to give a heads up to everybody.
Anybody else had the same problem?
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Huawei sells a case for the M20P if you want to use it underwater. Smartphones aren't normally meant to be used underwater whatever the IP rating.
Why is it that nearly every post that seems to be intended to discourage people from buying this phone comes from new accounts?
XDA is just turning into a site for fake posts promoting One Plus and discouraging the purchase of competitor phones.
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Huawei sells a case for the M20P if you want to use it underwater. Smartphones aren't normally meant to be used underwater whatever the IP rating.
Why is it that nearly every post that seems to be intended to discourage people from buying this phone comes from new accounts?
XDA is just turning into a site for fake posts promoting One Plus and discouraging the purchase of competitor phones.
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As i see i joined XDA a year before you.. i don't post much.. but when i do it is with certainty..
Just think of "Water-resistant" and not "waterproof" for all phones created not just Huawei phones, unless they start stating in their advertisments that it is waterproof.