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I understand that it has a waterproof rating of ip67, which means it can withstand a depth of 1 meter of water for 30 minutes. This is very confusing to me. I understand how the depth plays a factor, because of the pressure, but what does time have anything to do with it? Unless the watch slowly lets water seep in, why can't it withstand a depth of 1 meter for 1 hour, or 1 week?
I can't think of any other reason why there would be a time constraint. This leads me to another point; how long does the watch have to be dry for the seepage to dry out of the internals until you can soak it again for 30min? For example, you can't just keep the watch underwater permanently and only bring it out of the water for a couple of seconds every 30 mins.
I need to understand this because I want to know if I can shower/bathe with my watch everyday. Or if I can swim with my watch every day, and if I swim for 45mins instead of 30mins will my watch stop working? (incidentally are there any swimming fitness tracker apps for the Gear s?)
Someone wears the watch in the shower daily another person swims with the watch no problem
Just be careful with swimming. The water pressure on the watch just sitting still in 1m of water will be different to the pressure that can be generated by your hand driving through the water at a decent velocity. It will also be affected by the way you wear the watch and the angle it hits the water etc.
Also, swimming in salt water may not be good for the seals or the material in general. I think they just test it in plain water with no chlorine, salt etc.
Same with showering. It should be OK, but make sure your soap/shampoo/conditioner doesn't contain anything that might damage the finish or allow the water to more easily breach the seals.
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I understand that it has a waterproof rating of ip67, which means it can withstand a depth of 1 meter of water for 30 minutes. This is very confusing to me. I understand how the depth plays a factor, because of the pressure, but what does time have anything to do with it? Unless the watch slowly lets water seep in, why can't it withstand a depth of 1 meter for 1 hour, or 1 week?
I can't think of any other reason why there would be a time constraint. This leads me to another point; how long does the watch have to be dry for the seepage to dry out of the internals until you can soak it again for 30min? For example, you can't just keep the watch underwater permanently and only bring it out of the water for a couple of seconds every 30 mins.
I need to understand this because I want to know if I can shower/bathe with my watch everyday. Or if I can swim with my watch every day, and if I swim for 45mins instead of 30mins will my watch stop working? (incidentally are there any swimming fitness tracker apps for the Gear s?)
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IP67 is a testing standard. When they say 30 minutes at 1 meter, they simply mean that during the test, they submerge the watch in 1 meter of water for 30 minutes. After the 30 minutes they disassemble the watch and if there is no water encroachment, the watch has passed the test and is allowed to display and advertise an IP67 rating. It does not mean that after 30 minutes or below 1 meter the watch will suddenly start leaking. It only means that that is how they tested it. The watch MIGHT be leak free for over 100 hours or down to 10 meters, it just hasn't been tested to that level.
Here is the information on water resistance that you'll find in the Gear S manual. I've worn my watch out running in light rain without incident, but personally I'm a little hesitant about wearing it in the shower or swimming, given the admonition to "not expose the device to water moving with force, such as water running from a tap, ocean waves, or waterfalls". Granted, my showers aren't exactly Iguazú Falls, but I currently don't have the cash to replace my Gear S in case anything happens to void the warranty.
Maintaining Water and Dust Resistance
The device may be damaged if water or dust enters the device. Follow these tips carefully to prevent damage to the device and to maintain the water- and dust-resistant performance of the device.
Do not immerse the device in water deeper than 1 m and keep it submerged for more than 30 minutes.
Do not expose the device to water moving with force, such as water running from a tap, ocean waves, or waterfalls.
If the device or your hands are wet, dry them thoroughly before handling the device.
If the device is exposed to freshwater, dry
it thoroughly with a clean, soft cloth. If the device is exposed to any liquid other than freshwater, rinse the device with freshwater
immediately and dry it thoroughly with a clean, soft cloth. Failure to rinse the device in freshwater and dry it as instructed may cause the device to suffer from operability or cosmetic issues.
If the device is dropped or receives an impact, the water-and dust-resistant features of the device may be damaged.
If the device has been immersed in water or the microphone or the speaker is wet, sound may not be heard clearly during a call. Ensure that the microphone or the speaker is clean and dry by wiping it with a dry cloth.
The touchscreen and other features may not work properly if the device is used in water or in other liquids.
Your device has been tested in a controlled environment and shown to be water-and dust-resistant in certain circumstances (meets requirements of classification IP67 as described by the international standard.
Yeah, I will treat it as weather proof, not water proof. That is occasional water on the watch is ok. Taking it to a swim or shower is not ok.
I have always worn my watches in the shower. I don't know why I do I just always have. So when I got the original gear I had a problem remembering to take it off. A couple times I had gotten all the way in before I realized I still had it on. It got wet but as soon as I realized I took it off and dried it. Never had a problem with water getting inside it. When I got my gear s I was hesitant the first couple times making sure to try and keep it out of the spray of the shower head. Now I don't even think about it. I just take it off when I'm done and dry it off with the towel. Only the I have noticed is if you get a call after its gotten wet the speaker doesn't seem quite as loud like there is still some water covering the speaker hole. Other than that no problems at all. Also when I wash my hands throughout the day l don't have to worry about it getting wet like I did the first gear I had. I'm glad the made it water resistant.
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My regular watches are rated 100-meter and no time limit. I will take that for swim or shower, not Gear S. Rusts take time to form and since it is inside the watch, you really don't know until it is dead. I will not take that chance for mine.
I'll pass on having it exposed to water, I'll just take it off
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My regular watches are rated 100-meter and no time limit. I will take that for swim or shower, not Gear S. Rusts take time to form and since it is inside the watch, you really don't know until it is dead. I will not take that chance for mine.
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Rust. Lol
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True, it's pretty confusing. Waterproof and not waterproof
I had already some bath with it, shower, running in the light rain and it still works and I hope it will stays that way.
Speaker needs to dry out though as sound is terrible. Not just quiet but TERRIBLE!
The other thing is that I would love to take Gear S on a swimming pool + sauna - what about that? Have anyone tried it?
There was a post that someone went swimming and it killed it
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True, it's pretty confusing. Waterproof and not waterproof
I had already some bath with it, shower, running in the light rain and it still works and I hope it will stays that way.
Speaker needs to dry out though as sound is terrible. Not just quiet but TERRIBLE!
The other thing is that I would love to take Gear S on a swimming pool + sauna - what about that? Have anyone tried it?
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The key term is Water "Resistant" not Waterproof. After the thread by kamieniarz seen here ,I probably wouldnt do it. Just my $0.02 .
I take mine in the hot tub and steam room a few times a week. I've never had any issues with it, speaker or moisture under the screen or anything else. I don't keep it submerged for long and I'm careful with how quickly I move my hand under water. I've read the thread mentioned above where somebody took their watch swimming and it got water damaged and it's not surprising. Slamming your wrist into the water over and over seems like it exceeded the pressure threshold. I don't shower with it on for the same reason. My main concern is the chlorine from the hot tub turning the watchband green.
I'm not suggesting anybody out there get their Gear S wet, but if you do use discretion about when and under what conditions you expose it to water.
Don't get the Gear S too wet
I have taken it into pools, rain, shower.
Sadly, during my vacation, my Gear S screen stopped working while in the water. I'm super cautious not to go much under water. I don't really swim with it, just walk in the water. The screen quit working. I"m super annoyed. Samsung support says it's not covered under the warranty. I also had the broken pin issue with the charging cradle. Sending it in, if they find it was water damage, then they will charge me, which I have no idea what the amount will be.
eclipse05x said:
True, it's pretty confusing. Waterproof and not waterproof
I had already some bath with it, shower, running in the light rain and it still works and I hope it will stays that way.
Speaker needs to dry out though as sound is terrible. Not just quiet but TERRIBLE!
The other thing is that I would love to take Gear S on a swimming pool + sauna - what about that? Have anyone tried it?
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Rust. Lol
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I read in many places, go swim with it, shower, etc. Wrong!
I did that for a bit, last week, stopped working in the pool. I only walk in the pool a bit, very shallow, and take showers. Even so, suddenly the screen showed strange patterns then quit working.
I thought the use case of leaving phone behind in locker or car and just go in pool with watch was awesome, but too good to be true. I actually wish they told people not to swim or take showers with it.
Agree with others, now, just use the water resistant feature as an emergency
i've showered with my Gear2 many times with no issues. because of the sim slot in the GearS, i havent chanced it yet. if the sim cover is not on correctly, or off a bit, water can get in it seems.
I was kayaking with my Gear S, it tipped over and I was in the ocean swimming with the Gear S on. I was swimming in the water trying to get back onto my kayak for at least 5 minutes. The Gear S held up well. Only issue was the speaker would crackle when it was used. After a couple days, it stopped crackling. I assume it was the speaker drying off. Zero issues. When I got home, I took it out of the band and gave everything a thorough cleaning. I popped open the sim card cover, and it was untouched by any water.
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The other thing is that I would love to take Gear S on a swimming pool + sauna - what about that? Have anyone tried it?
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It's not survivable in that environment. 2 minutes in the hot tub destroyed mine. Thankfully the CC company covered the loss, it was within 90 days.
-Read the manual, while waterproof, any pressure on the seals can cause a leak, such as thermal expansions, or exposure to water jets, and currents from swimming.
Just tested under the shower more than 20 times and I had no problem but after reading your comments I am a bit afraid now... it was also hit by some salt water without being submerged... so far so good...
This is the page of facebook samsung Italy. misleading advertising. I never open the lid to the sim. At best, I took a shower with the smartwatch roofs lean against. Mandate under warranty but Samsung refused to ensure warranty saying that she had entered into water. resumo history, they asked me 350 Euros to fix, since I paid the new gear's 350. sorry my English but I used google translator. Here in Italy I found nothing on the subject.
I just got the watch a couple of weeks ago and it was working fine till today. I just fully recharged it and turned it on. The display was partially dimmed it flickered and there were thin white lines on the screen.
I later restarted the watch but now it will just display a dark screen with thin white lines.
Tried resetting the watch again and now it wont even turn on.
The watch is waterproof so wearing it while swimming wasn't the issue?
What can i do?
Also sorry if this is the wrong section to post this, i tried the xiaomi forums but i god no help there.
Watch is water resistant, not waterproof. So swimming should be an issue.
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Watch is water resistant, not waterproof. So swimming should be an issue.
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"The tracker can withstand a maximum of 1 meter of water for up to 30 minutes. Please note, submerging your tracker beyond the maximum depth or beyond the maximum time frame could potentially harm the device and cause hardware issues."
It was a short swim on the surface of the water so i see no problem here. Also how come the watch can withstand a 30 minute water touch and can't withstand more?
the watch is NOT waterproof, and its strongly advised not to swim with it. unfortunately, your unit is KIA.
I've seen already few users that had the same experience after swimming, they had to replace the unit, and its not covered under warranty as well.
sorry :\
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"The tracker can withstand a maximum of 1 meter of water for up to 30 minutes. Please note, submerging your tracker beyond the maximum depth or beyond the maximum time frame could potentially harm the device and cause hardware issues."
It was a short swim on the surface of the water so i see no problem here. Also how come the watch can withstand a 30 minute water touch and can't withstand more?
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That's the official description of a IP67 rating and how the exact tests are done. There is the time and the water pressure that the watch must withstand (1m water pressure).
However, even just swimming, which moves the arms and add water pressure by the movement of the watch can exceed the water pressure of 1 meter easily. Also sometime, washing the watch under running water can exceed the water pressure of 1m.
And yes to @1immortal, this rating is not waterproof, it is indeed called water resistant only.
Sorry for your watch.
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That's the official description of a IP67 rating and how the exact tests are done. There is the time and the water pressure that the watch must withstand (1m water pressure).
However, even just swimming, which moves the arms and add water pressure by the movement of the watch can exceed the water pressure of 1 meter easily. Also sometime, washing the watch under running water can exceed the water pressure of 1m.
And yes to @1immortal, this rating is not waterproof, it is indeed called water resistant only.
Sorry for your watch.
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Thank you all for helping, i did though the problem was somewhere else and yes i missread the watch description in which it says it is water resistant which kinda mislead me thinking i can use it in water ( English is not my native language )
Crap. I washed my watch using the faucet. I hope no water got in.
My amazfit watch was working fine but once I switched it off its not turning on? What could be the issue.. there is a think white line appearing and its only one month
the official ads says IP68. when users face waterproof issues, suddenly everyone said it's only IP67. How come?
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the official ads says IP68. when users face waterproof issues, suddenly everyone said it's only IP67. How come?
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Where is that stated?
https://us.amazfit.com/shop/pace?variant=25112 there it states IP67
fzelle said:
Where is that stated?
https://us.amazfit.com/shop/pace?variant=25112 there it states IP67
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I'm not trying to be rude, but
http://amazfitcentral.com/amazfit-bip-specifications/ = IP68
https://www.gearbest.com/smart-watches/pp_962565.html = IP68
https://xiaomi-mi.com/mitu-watches/amazfit-bip-smartwatch-youth-edition-gray/ = IP68
http://www.smartwatchspecifications...it-smartwatch-youth-edition-bip-lite-version/ = IP68
and more.
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I'm not trying to be rude, but
http://amazfitcentral.com/amazfit-bip-specifications/ = IP68
https://www.gearbest.com/smart-watches/pp_962565.html = IP68
https://xiaomi-mi.com/mitu-watches/amazfit-bip-smartwatch-youth-edition-gray/ = IP68
http://www.smartwatchspecifications...it-smartwatch-youth-edition-bip-lite-version/ = IP68
and more.
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You are pointing to the Amazfit BIP, not to the Amazfit Pace.
Two completely different devices
fzelle said:
You are pointing to the Amazfit BIP, not to the Amazfit Pace.
Two completely different devices
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well OP doesn't state which Amazfit was it. So I just assumed. And there's a lot of people complaining their BIP is getting water inside the screen. This leave me wondering on the legibility of the ads.
Amazfit bip
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well OP doesn't state which Amazfit was it. So I just assumed. And there's a lot of people complaining their BIP is getting water inside the screen. This leave me wondering on the legibility of the ads.
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Hi all,
My amazbit bip got water inside, and I bought that as the website standed it was IP68, so don't buy that piece of liar crap.
Regards
I've worn my bip whilst washing dishes, had it 2 weeks and the brightness & back light no longer work I can only point to this as otherwise it's had a pretty easy life till now
Got exactly the same problem. The BIP watch doesn't seems to be as resistant as specification says
I got the same problem my display gets blurry 1st then it keeps getting disappear until its fully off then later i plug my watchg to charger and it comes back
i dunno whats the issue it mostly happens when i am riding my bike and the watch is exposed in the winter air
but it happens much often when the watch is expose to weather but it turns on too lol
does anyone have a fix is it software or hardware
thanks
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I got the same problem my display gets blurry 1st then it keeps getting disappear until its fully off then later i plug my watchg to charger and it comes back
i dunno whats the issue it mostly happens when i am riding my bike and the watch is exposed in the winter air
but it happens much often when the watch is expose to weather but it turns on too lol
does anyone have a fix is it software or hardware
thanks
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On my side the watch display is now dead. 2 White Spots, the light on but no display... the watch died...
I solved the problem after swimming by extensive charging. I left the watch charging for over month (forgotten because I thougth it is death). But when I switched it on it was perfectly working. I think the heat helped it. Now I have the same problem and it was just raining a little bit
Amazfit Stratos screen crash
Sorry to necro this thread...
Not sure which model OP is talking about but...
I have an Amazfit Stratos that I bought 14 months ago - July 2019 (wow, just out of warranty ). Has been working fine until I had a shower while wearing it today. Suddenly the screen went berserk (sorry for my technical jargon there) but it still buzzes for notifications. To be clear, I have been wearing it while swimming and showering and washing for the whole time I have owned it because that is what the advertising indicates it can do. In fact it brags about having a swimming tracking functions and being water resistant to 50m in pool and ocean.
So now it is sitting in a bag of rice on a radiator hoping it will dry out and work again until I buy a suitable replacement.
Just a message to Xiaomi Huami if you're paying attention and care about return business: I never buy another product from a company if something I bought dies just out of warranty. It's a really bad sign, and I know I'm not alone. It's a really bad long term business strategy unless your product is so cheap to buy that customers consider it disposable. #poop
Phone worked good in water. Had to hit the volume button to take the picture.
After take your Spen out for a little while. Ha ha I took my Spen out a couple of minutes ago and it water in it.
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After take your Spen out for a little while. Ha ha I took my Spen out a couple of minutes ago and it water in it.
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Have you had other Samsung Phones that were waterproof? Wondering how well the oleo phobic coating holds up after being submerged in that type of water. I was tempted to take it into the water last weekend...but I had no reason to so I didn't, hahaha.
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Have you had other Samsung Phones that were waterproof? Wondering how well the oleo phobic coating holds up after being submerged in that type of water. I was tempted to take it into the water last weekend...but I had no reason to so I didn't, hahaha.
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It still feels fine. Just like it did before I took it in the water. Now I did not keep it in the water all day. Just for a couple of minutes.
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Have you had other Samsung Phones that were waterproof? Wondering how well the oleo phobic coating holds up after being submerged in that type of water. I was tempted to take it into the water last weekend...but I had no reason to so I didn't, hahaha.
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I've taken my S7 Edge and S8 swimming before and noticed no changes in the screen coating whatsoever.
I haven't taken my N8 swimming yet.
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Don't forget to read the Samsung user guide before you take your Note 8 swimming. Just a heads up.
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Phone worked good in water. Had to hit the volume button to take the picture.
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What is the water resistance on your beautiful Rolex Oyster?
Ryland. :good:
Ryland Johnson said:
What is the water resistance on your beautiful Rolex Oyster?
Ryland. :good:
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12,800 ft
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Ryland Johnson said:
What is the water resistance on your beautiful Rolex Oyster?
Ryland. :good:
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Or 3900 m
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Or 3900 m
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"DEEPSEA TEST TANK
Extreme depths
To guarantee the water resistance of the Rolex Deepsea divers' watch to the extreme depth of 3,900 metres (12,800 feet), Rolex tests every single one made in a specially designed high-performance tank. This stainless steel hyperbaric tank is cast in a single piece and weighs 1.3 tonnes. It simulates the pressure at 4,875 metres (16,000 feet) below sea level, some 25 percent greater than the depth indicated on the dial. At this depth, the force exerted upon the watch is equivalent to a weight of 4.5 tonnes. This test could be destructive, meaning that the slightest weakness in a watch would cause it to implode. Obviously, all Rolex Deepsea watches offered for sale have survived it."
This is one of a handful of watches that are so tested in official labs with highly qualified engineers.
I will now show the official watch industry water resistance table:
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"Water resistance classification
Watches are often classified by watch manufacturers by their degree of water resistance which, due to the absence of official classification standards, roughly translates to the following (1 metre ≈ 3.29 feet). These vagueries have since been superseded by ISO 22810:2010, in which "any watch on the market sold as water-resistant must satisfy ISO 22810 – regardless of the brand." [5]
Water resistance rating Suitability Remarks
Water Resistant 3 atm or 30 m Suitable for everyday use. Splash/rain resistant. Not suitable for showering, bathing, swimming, snorkeling, water related work, fishing, and diving.
Water Resistant 5 atm or 50 m Suitable for swimming, white water rafting, and fishing. Not suitable for diving and snorkeling.
Water Resistant 10 atm or 100 m Suitable for recreational surfing, swimming, snorkeling, sailing and water sports. Not suitable for diving.
Water Resistant 20 atm or 200 m Suitable for professional marine activity, serious surface water sports and skin diving. Suitable for skin diving.
Diver's 100 m Minimum ISO standard (ISO 6425) for scuba diving at depths not suitable for saturation diving. Diver's 100 m and 150 m watches are generally old(er) watches.
Diver's 200 m or 300 m Suitable for scuba diving at depths not suitable for saturation diving. Typical ratings for contemporary diver's watches.
Diver's 300+ m for mixed-gas diving Suitable for saturation diving (helium enriched environment). Watches designed for mixed-gas diving will have the DIVER'S WATCH xxx M FOR MIXED-GAS DIVING additional marking to point this out."
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As you can read "Water Resistant 3 atm or 30 m. Suitable for everyday use. Splash/rain resistant. Not suitable for showering, bathing, swimming, snorkeling, water related work, fishing, and diving." Rating 30M yet its only splash proof!
and.....
"Water Resistant 20 atm or 200 m. Suitable for professional marine activity, serious surface water sports and skin diving. Suitable for skin diving." Rating 200M yet in reality only fir for water sports and skin diving!
From this one can clearly see how the actual rating on the rear of ones watch is a complete joke.
A handful are exceptions like yours that is why I asked you about it. I come from a family of horologists and though watches are another one of my vices I am not a horologist myself. I have been saying for decades how the watch industry screws the consumer with these highly misleading water resistance ratings etched onto the rear of the case.
Same principle applies to our mobiles. The ratings are very VERY misleading. Add to that sea water or swimming pool water and the chemicals or salt will, over time, ruin the water resistant membranes of the mobile.
I will not start to write about the physics of static water pressure at small depths V water pressure at immersion levels when force of movement is added such as a swimmers arm. Swimming with a mobile places immense pressure on the device even at 1" depth. This is due to water pressure through movement not static depth. Enough already.
The best respectful advice I would give any mobile owner is to treat the 'water resistance' as merely splash or wet hand proof. Nothing more. Its a complex situation. Original Sony Z owners know all about it lol. Sony lost a massive client base over that fiasco and Sony themselves considered closing their mobile division.
Ryland
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"DEEPSEA TEST TANK
Extreme depths
To guarantee the water resistance of the Rolex Deepsea divers' watch to the extreme depth of 3,900 metres (12,800 feet), Rolex tests every single one made in a specially designed high-performance tank. This stainless steel hyperbaric tank is cast in a single piece and weighs 1.3 tonnes. It simulates the pressure at 4,875 metres (16,000 feet) below sea level, some 25 percent greater than the depth indicated on the dial. At this depth, the force exerted upon the watch is equivalent to a weight of 4.5 tonnes. This test could be destructive, meaning that the slightest weakness in a watch would cause it to implode. Obviously, all Rolex Deepsea watches offered for sale have survived it."
This is one of a handful of watches that are so tested in official labs with highly qualified engineers.
I will now show the official watch industry water resistance table:
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"Water resistance classification
Watches are often classified by watch manufacturers by their degree of water resistance which, due to the absence of official classification standards, roughly translates to the following (1 metre ≈ 3.29 feet). These vagueries have since been superseded by ISO 22810:2010, in which "any watch on the market sold as water-resistant must satisfy ISO 22810 – regardless of the brand." [5]
Water resistance rating Suitability Remarks
Water Resistant 3 atm or 30 m Suitable for everyday use. Splash/rain resistant. Not suitable for showering, bathing, swimming, snorkeling, water related work, fishing, and diving.
Water Resistant 5 atm or 50 m Suitable for swimming, white water rafting, and fishing. Not suitable for diving and snorkeling.
Water Resistant 10 atm or 100 m Suitable for recreational surfing, swimming, snorkeling, sailing and water sports. Not suitable for diving.
Water Resistant 20 atm or 200 m Suitable for professional marine activity, serious surface water sports and skin diving. Suitable for skin diving.
Diver's 100 m Minimum ISO standard (ISO 6425) for scuba diving at depths not suitable for saturation diving. Diver's 100 m and 150 m watches are generally old(er) watches.
Diver's 200 m or 300 m Suitable for scuba diving at depths not suitable for saturation diving. Typical ratings for contemporary diver's watches.
Diver's 300+ m for mixed-gas diving Suitable for saturation diving (helium enriched environment). Watches designed for mixed-gas diving will have the DIVER'S WATCH xxx M FOR MIXED-GAS DIVING additional marking to point this out."
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As you can read "Water Resistant 3 atm or 30 m. Suitable for everyday use. Splash/rain resistant. Not suitable for showering, bathing, swimming, snorkeling, water related work, fishing, and diving." Rating 30M yet its only splash proof!
and.....
"Water Resistant 20 atm or 200 m. Suitable for professional marine activity, serious surface water sports and skin diving. Suitable for skin diving." Rating 200M yet in reality only fir for water sports and skin diving!
From this one can clearly see how the actual rating on the rear of ones watch is a complete joke.
A handful are exceptions like yours that is why I asked you about it. I come from a family of horologists and though watches are another one of my vices I am not a horologist myself. I have been saying for decades how the watch industry screws the consumer with these highly misleading water resistance ratings etched onto the rear of the case.
Same principle applies to our mobiles. The ratings are very VERY misleading. Add to that sea water or swimming pool water and the chemicals or salt will, over time, ruin the water resistant membranes of the mobile.
I will not start to write about the physics of static water pressure at small depths V water pressure at immersion levels when force of movement is added such as a swimmers arm. Swimming with a mobile places immense pressure on the device even at 1" depth. This is due to water pressure through movement not static depth. Enough already.
The best respectful advice I would give any mobile owner is to treat the 'water resistance' as merely splash or wet hand proof. Nothing more. Its a complex situation. Original Sony Z owners know all about it lol. Sony lost a massive client base over that fiasco and Sony themselves considered closing their mobile division.
Ryland
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Trust me I don't dive. Only swim and I don't make it a habit to bring any of my watches in the water. This was the first and probably the last time I will put this phone in the water. Just wanted to test it out. The pictures were for my Facebook DSSD community. Phones and watches are my thing too.
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Trust me I don't dive. Only swim and I don't make it a habit to bring any of my watches in the water. This was the first and probably the last time I will put this phone in the water. Just wanted to test it out. The pictures were for my Facebook DSSD community. Phones and watches are my thing too.
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I understand completely. :good:
I don't take any of my watch collection near water. I don't even take them off in the bathroom and leave them there due to the steam! We are fortunate to own a tiny micro % of watches that can actually outperform the rating on the rear of the watch case! 99.9% of watches cannot, in reality, reach the depth rated on the back as shown in the table. Its rather a scandal yet the watch industry has NO OFFICIAL monitoring body for water resistance.
Oh, when I do go swimming I use a G-shock Gulfmaster. Very tough electronic time piece. Nice to debate with you.
BTW do you also collect pens? I can add that to my list of vices. Crap, forgot to add HiFi systems though over the past decade I have lapsed on that front! Thank heavens!
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Ryland Johnson said:
I understand completely. :good:
I don't take any of my watch collection near water. I don't even take them off in the bathroom and leave them there due to the steam! We are fortunate to own a tiny micro % of watches that can actually outperform the rating on the rear of the watch case! 99.9% of watches cannot, in reality, reach the depth rated on the back as shown in the table. Its rather a scandal yet the watch industry has NO OFFICIAL monitoring body for water resistance.
Oh, when I do go swimming I use a G-shock Gulfmaster. Very tough electronic time piece. Nice to debate with you.
BTW do you also collect pens? I can add that to my list of vices. Crap, forgot to add HiFi systems though over the past decade I have lapsed on that front! Thank heavens!
Ryland
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No I don't do pens. But I do see some very nice ones. Yeah I take very good care of my watches. I have the Rolex DSSD a Omega planet ocean 45.5mm 8500. A Omega Speedmaster 9300 and a Panerai Pam 000 G series. I just sold my Rolex Datejust 2 and my Breitling superocean 44.
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No I don't do pens. But I do see some very nice ones. Yeah I take very good care of my watches. I have the Rolex DSSD a Omega planet ocean 45.5mm 8500. A Omega Speedmaster 9300 and a Panerai Pam 000 G series. I just sold my Rolex Datejust 2 and my Breitling superocean 44.
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Omega are a superb value watch. Not a fan of the Panerai design.
As well as the high end watches I own, such as the Patek Philippe, one of my favourite's is the Lange & Sohne, I enjoy very much Oris and Tissot! I tend to use them as my daily drivers. I nearly purchased a Breguet type XXI 3880 last month but need to sell an Audermars Piguet RO first or my wife will kill me! Again! Insurance is now silly money too.
You need to start a pen collection. :highfive:
Wow are we off topic. Sorry about that.
Ryland
Ryland Johnson said:
Omega are a superb value watch. Not a fan of the Panerai design.
As well as the high end watches I own, such as the Patek Philippe, one of my favourite's is the Lange & Sohne, I enjoy very much Oris and Tissot! I tend to use them as my daily drivers. I nearly purchased a Breguet type XXI 3880 last month but need to sell an Audermars Piguet RO first or my wife will kill me! Again! Insurance is now silly money too.
You need to start a pen collection. :highfive:
Wow are we off topic. Sorry about that.
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My first started collecting watches my first automatic was a Tissot PRS 516 I still have it. I will never sell it. It's quality is that of a 2,000 dollar watch for sure. Today I think Tissot has gone a little cheap but they are still good watches. I came close to getting a Breguet type XXI a couple of months ago but it did not happen. I will get a AP Royal Oak one day. I can talk watches all day like phones. I might check some pens out and see. Thanks
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My first started collecting watches my first automatic was a Tissot PRS 516 I still have it. I will never sell it. It's quality is that of a 2,000 dollar watch for sure. Today I think Tissot has gone a little cheap but they are still good watches. I came close to getting a Breguet type XXI a couple of months ago but it did not happen. I will get a AP Royal Oak one day. I can talk watches all day like phones. I might check some pens out and see. Thanks
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The recession off 2008-present has had an awful effect on the watch trade in Europe. Even among the big three conglomerates they have had to fight an ever losing battle against digital imports now smart watches have dealt a further blow. Seiko et al started the traditional watch collapse in the late 60's early 70's with cheap digital but highly accurate watches. Took the watch industry years to recover even 20% of what it had been. Not doing so good again for some again now. Rolex isn't doing badly though but many have again gone to the wall or the 'name' been purchased by the Chinese machine. Mont Blanc have either changed hands or gone also Maurice Lacroix to name but two.
I was 11 when my mother bought me my first manual, it was a black dialled Oris. I just wanted a watch with a black dial! Smashed it to pieces in the school gym same year!
My mother ran a watch parts company that held nearly 200.000 watch pieces. One night the shop was broken into and thousands of small boxes containing tiny part where all emptied onto the floor 200,000 pieces mixed together. When they where collected they didn't fill a small bin! They never sorted them all out again, only a small %. Silly thing was they NEVER closed the till and left a small amount of cash to try and avoid such an incident. They trashed the place out of pure spit? Caused havoc in the local watch trade for over a year. People eh.
Ryland
Ryland Johnson said:
The recession off 2008-present has had an awful effect on the watch trade in Europe. Even among the big three conglomerates they have had to fight an ever losing battle against digital imports now smart watches have dealt a further blow. Seiko et al started the traditional watch collapse in the late 60's early 70's with cheap digital but highly accurate watches. Took the watch industry years to recover even 20% of what it had been. Not doing so good again for some again now. Rolex isn't doing badly though but many have again gone to the wall or the 'name' been purchased by the Chinese machine. Mont Blanc have either changed hands or gone also Maurice Lacroix to name but two.
I was 11 when my mother bought me my first manual, it was a black dialled Oris. I just wanted a watch with a black dial! Smashed it to pieces in the school gym same year!
My mother ran a watch parts company that held nearly 200.000 watch pieces. One night the shop was broken into and thousands of small boxes containing tiny part where all emptied onto the floor 200,000 pieces mixed together. When they where collected they didn't fill a small bin! They never sorted them all out again, only a small %. Silly thing was they NEVER closed the till and left a small amount of cash to try and avoid such an incident. They trashed the place out of pure spit? Caused havoc in the local watch trade for over a year. People eh.
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That must have been cool growing up in that type of business. Yeah that sucks some people's kids. I only have mechanical watches. No quartz watches for me. The only one I would have is maybe a Spring Drive. But I am not paying what they want for them. I do think Sekio really came up with something cool with that movement. I have always been fascinated by manual watches. The movement all the parts all the craftsmanship that goes into those movements its amazing.
Ryland Johnson said:
The recession off 2008-present has had an awful effect on the watch trade in Europe. Even among the big three conglomerates they have had to fight an ever losing battle against digital imports now smart watches have dealt a further blow. Seiko et al started the traditional watch collapse in the late 60's early 70's with cheap digital but highly accurate watches. Took the watch industry years to recover even 20% of what it had been. Not doing so good again for some again now. Rolex isn't doing badly though but many have again gone to the wall or the 'name' been purchased by the Chinese machine. Mont Blanc have either changed hands or gone also Maurice Lacroix to name but two.
I was 11 when my mother bought me my first manual, it was a black dialled Oris. I just wanted a watch with a black dial! Smashed it to pieces in the school gym same year!
My mother ran a watch parts company that held nearly 200.000 watch pieces. One night the shop was broken into and thousands of small boxes containing tiny part where all emptied onto the floor 200,000 pieces mixed together. When they where collected they didn't fill a small bin! They never sorted them all out again, only a small %. Silly thing was they NEVER closed the till and left a small amount of cash to try and avoid such an incident. They trashed the place out of pure spit? Caused havoc in the local watch trade for over a year. People eh.
Ryland
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That must have been cool growing up in that type of business. Yeah that sucks some people's kids. I only have mechanical watches. No quartz watches for me. The only one I would have is maybe a Spring Drive. But I am not paying what they want for them. I do think Sekio really came up with something cool with that movement. I have always been fascinated by manual watches. The movement all the parts all the craftsmanship that goes into those movements its amazing.
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That must have been cool growing up in that type of business. Yeah that sucks some people's kids. I only have mechanical watches. No quartz watches for me. The only one I would have is maybe a Spring Drive. But I am not paying what they want for them. I do think Sekio really came up with something cool with that movement. I have always been fascinated by manual watches. The movement all the parts all the craftsmanship that goes into those movements its amazing.
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I have spent hours and hours sitting looking at watch movements and pondering how the heck they made it. One reason I truly like the Lange is the way they finish off the movement. Typically Germanic as opposed to the Breguet that shows its French heritage.
Great to debate with you.
Ryland
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I have spent hours and hours sitting looking at watch movements and pondering how the heck they made it. One reason I truly like the Lange is the way they finish off the movement. Typically Germanic as opposed to the Breguet that shows its French heritage.
Great to debate with you.
Ryland
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Yes they do make some beautiful watches and movements.
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Hey guys.
I registered few minutes ago. Because i need say really important thing to you. I tried to take photos under the water. Depth was only 30cm. My phone started to say water moistorizing in usb. After that it started to charging slowly. I went to authorized lg service. They said water disrupt on your usb and they take my 45$. My cameras glass broken. My luck. So they said your back glass can broken while we are opening your phone. It is really bull****. I am trying to tell do not interact your phone with water.
Edit: Guys my phone came back. And still it is not fixed. What should i do? I want destroy their service.
My phone still have problem. It is not charging if it is charging with fast charging. I mean if there is fast charging logo on battery. It stops charging and adapter making not charging noise(Sound after full charge or no phone plugged). And it is disconnecting and reconnecting(charging logo going then it is appearing again. Stopping and starting i mean).
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Hey guys.
I registered few minutes ago. Because i need say really important thing to you. I tried to take photos under the water. Depth was only 30cm. My phone started to say water moistorizing in usb. After that it started to charging slowly. I went to authorized lg service. They said water disrupt on your usb and they take my 45$. My cameras glass broken. My luck. So they said your back glass can broken while we are opening your phone. It is really bull****. I am trying to tell do not interact your phone with water.
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Rule of dumb when having a water resistant phone, even if it's water resistant, still avoid water getting on it.
A car has airbags for safety, doesn't mean go wreck it to see if they work ctfu..
aSuperSaiyanG0D said:
Rule of dumb when having a water resistant phone, even if it's water resistant, still avoid water getting on it.
A car has airbags for safety, doesn't mean go wreck it to see if they work ctfu..
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I do not agree, If the phone is IP 68. So you can be use it underwater.
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I do not agree, If the phone is IP 68. So you can be use it underwater.
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Ya know what?
Try it out, let me know how it goes.
It works perfectly underwater the recorded video and the taken photos then let it dry for at least 1 hour even the done air with the mouth to draw the water that has inside the loading port.
- I'm sorry but I speak Spanish and I use google translator
The phone is NOT water proof.
It's water resistant, there is a huge difference.
It's meant for accidents, not really for taking it underwater for pictures.
I used my g6 in pool, I was there about 2 hours and phone was at least 20 minutes underwater in total.
Recorded some videos, made a lot of photos. Everything works perfectly, after I came back home I let it dry in rice, after about 2 hours I restarted it and there is no problems till now at all. It was 4-5 months ago
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The phone is NOT water proof.
It's water resistant, there is a huge difference.
It's meant for accidents, not really for taking it underwater for pictures.
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According LG UK website,the phone is IP 68 :
http://www.lg.com/uk/support/solutions/mobile/lg-g6-dust-and-water-resistance-ip68
"The second digit is 8: protection against water in complete and continuous immersion. Devicewill withstand a complete immersion in water up to 1.5 meters for 30 minutes. Water temperature can vary from 15 to 35ºC."
So the phone has to work after complete immersion. Otherwise it's misleading advertising
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According LG UK website,the phone is IP 68 :
http://www.lg.com/uk/support/solutions/mobile/lg-g6-dust-and-water-resistance-ip68
"The second digit is 8: protection against water in complete and continuous immersion. Devicewill withstand a complete immersion in water up to 1.5 meters for 30 minutes. Water temperature can vary from 15 to 35ºC."
So the phone has to work after complete immersion. Otherwise it's misleading advertising
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If you can find where is states "waterproof" and not "water resistant" I'll buy you a new G6.
I repair phones for a living. These companies pick their words very carefully.
@Red2Kit In my case depth was about 200-250cm and it's still working perfectly without any issues.
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@Red2Kit In my case depth was about 200-250cm and it's still working perfectly without any issues.
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I think it is my luckiness but i dont understand why phone stopping charge if it get in to fast charge.
Water Resistant
I have taken my G6 swimming with me several times, mostly been fine.
I also had the "moisture detected" error, but I was able to solve it by rinsing out the charging port with distilled water, and using something like a toothpick to rub the usb pins clean in the port while the water was in it.
After that I blew it out and let it dry for a while, and charging fixed.
I think dirt or salt builds up on the USB pins and causes a false moisture detection.
I think normal there is not word to say. LG say clear: The Phone is for Water until 1,5m and not longer then 30mins. What is the Problem in the discription? And the word "waterproof" is not shown even the word "water resist" So it is useless to compare both cause LG not use one of These words Right? The Phone is Ready for 1,50 sweet Water and 30mins. end
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I think normal there is not word to say. LG say clear: The Phone is for Water until 1,5m and not longer then 30mins. What is the Problem in the discription? And the word "waterproof" is not shown even the word "water resist" So it is useless to compare both cause LG not use one of These words Right? The Phone is Ready for 1,50 sweet Water and 30mins. end
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Lg says "no guarantee will be applied in case of damage related to water" so end
The IP68 rating means the phone was gently placed in a clean fresh water tank 1.5m deep for 30 minutes. It was not used or moved during that time.
Using or moving the phone underwater can create stresses on the phone and the seals. This can lead to water penetration. Exposure to pool water, salt water, drinks, etc is different and my lead to penetration.
Many watches are labeled for water resistance, which is very different than waterproof. Google a guide to water resistant ratings for watches, and you will find that the depth rating is very mis-leading. Not to mention that the rating is not good forever. The seals can and do degrade over time, so that after some time, the device is no longer water resistant.
I used my phone multiple times in the sea , salty water ! And it is working perfectly fine
Used mine in the Blue Lagoon in Iceland. Spent loads of time in and under water. Still working perfectly.
I used my g6 under water in a pool, I had it in my pocket and it was submerged for at least 3-4 hours continuously. I took photos and recorded videos with it. I didn't even let it dry. After a 1 hour drive home I immediately plugged it in and it didn't even say that there is moisture into the usb port. And I usually take it with me when I'm swimming twice a week. I have been doing this for 6 months now and it still works perfectly. Ops phone was probably a defective unit.
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I regularly wash my phone with tap water, then wipe it with LCD screen cleaner and leave it to dry for like... 30 minutes in direct sun or in warm place (not hot!).
I had "moisture detected" a couple of times but usually it went away after some time.
Never, I repeat, NEVER be that dumb like me - I washed my Xperia Z3 Compact many times, as well as my G6... but I accidentally used soap while cleaning G6 once and it was almost a disaster... It took HOURS for the water to dry off my USB port, bottom and front speaker, also from my headphone jack as soap changes how water behaves... I thought I killed it but it is perfectly fine now... but think twice
Hello! I have the stratos 3 since january. However its the first time i bring it to a swim. But i was surprised that it didnt have training effect or rest time.... Which is sad because i "killed" myself swiming and as far as the watch is concern, im ready for a 5km run right away.
Also, shouldnt the watch measure the heart rate while swiming? I tried measuring with "running" mode and it seemed to measure fine underwater.
Training Effect works for Outdoor activities for me (running/cycling). Haven't had the chance to test while swimming. Fear of loosing the watch
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Training Effect works for Outdoor activities for me (running/cycling). Haven't had the chance to test while swimming. Fear of loosing the watch
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Its water proof so i eould worry too much. And if it breaks warranty should cover.
Yeh runnin and jumping rope gives me TE. i dont have a bike to test cycling but should work like your case.