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I understand that it has a waterproof rating of ip67, which means it can withstand a depth of 1 meter of water for 30 minutes. This is very confusing to me. I understand how the depth plays a factor, because of the pressure, but what does time have anything to do with it? Unless the watch slowly lets water seep in, why can't it withstand a depth of 1 meter for 1 hour, or 1 week?
I can't think of any other reason why there would be a time constraint. This leads me to another point; how long does the watch have to be dry for the seepage to dry out of the internals until you can soak it again for 30min? For example, you can't just keep the watch underwater permanently and only bring it out of the water for a couple of seconds every 30 mins.
I need to understand this because I want to know if I can shower/bathe with my watch everyday. Or if I can swim with my watch every day, and if I swim for 45mins instead of 30mins will my watch stop working? (incidentally are there any swimming fitness tracker apps for the Gear s?)
Someone wears the watch in the shower daily another person swims with the watch no problem
Just be careful with swimming. The water pressure on the watch just sitting still in 1m of water will be different to the pressure that can be generated by your hand driving through the water at a decent velocity. It will also be affected by the way you wear the watch and the angle it hits the water etc.
Also, swimming in salt water may not be good for the seals or the material in general. I think they just test it in plain water with no chlorine, salt etc.
Same with showering. It should be OK, but make sure your soap/shampoo/conditioner doesn't contain anything that might damage the finish or allow the water to more easily breach the seals.
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I understand that it has a waterproof rating of ip67, which means it can withstand a depth of 1 meter of water for 30 minutes. This is very confusing to me. I understand how the depth plays a factor, because of the pressure, but what does time have anything to do with it? Unless the watch slowly lets water seep in, why can't it withstand a depth of 1 meter for 1 hour, or 1 week?
I can't think of any other reason why there would be a time constraint. This leads me to another point; how long does the watch have to be dry for the seepage to dry out of the internals until you can soak it again for 30min? For example, you can't just keep the watch underwater permanently and only bring it out of the water for a couple of seconds every 30 mins.
I need to understand this because I want to know if I can shower/bathe with my watch everyday. Or if I can swim with my watch every day, and if I swim for 45mins instead of 30mins will my watch stop working? (incidentally are there any swimming fitness tracker apps for the Gear s?)
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IP67 is a testing standard. When they say 30 minutes at 1 meter, they simply mean that during the test, they submerge the watch in 1 meter of water for 30 minutes. After the 30 minutes they disassemble the watch and if there is no water encroachment, the watch has passed the test and is allowed to display and advertise an IP67 rating. It does not mean that after 30 minutes or below 1 meter the watch will suddenly start leaking. It only means that that is how they tested it. The watch MIGHT be leak free for over 100 hours or down to 10 meters, it just hasn't been tested to that level.
Here is the information on water resistance that you'll find in the Gear S manual. I've worn my watch out running in light rain without incident, but personally I'm a little hesitant about wearing it in the shower or swimming, given the admonition to "not expose the device to water moving with force, such as water running from a tap, ocean waves, or waterfalls". Granted, my showers aren't exactly Iguazú Falls, but I currently don't have the cash to replace my Gear S in case anything happens to void the warranty.
Maintaining Water and Dust Resistance
The device may be damaged if water or dust enters the device. Follow these tips carefully to prevent damage to the device and to maintain the water- and dust-resistant performance of the device.
Do not immerse the device in water deeper than 1 m and keep it submerged for more than 30 minutes.
Do not expose the device to water moving with force, such as water running from a tap, ocean waves, or waterfalls.
If the device or your hands are wet, dry them thoroughly before handling the device.
If the device is exposed to freshwater, dry
it thoroughly with a clean, soft cloth. If the device is exposed to any liquid other than freshwater, rinse the device with freshwater
immediately and dry it thoroughly with a clean, soft cloth. Failure to rinse the device in freshwater and dry it as instructed may cause the device to suffer from operability or cosmetic issues.
If the device is dropped or receives an impact, the water-and dust-resistant features of the device may be damaged.
If the device has been immersed in water or the microphone or the speaker is wet, sound may not be heard clearly during a call. Ensure that the microphone or the speaker is clean and dry by wiping it with a dry cloth.
The touchscreen and other features may not work properly if the device is used in water or in other liquids.
Your device has been tested in a controlled environment and shown to be water-and dust-resistant in certain circumstances (meets requirements of classification IP67 as described by the international standard.
Yeah, I will treat it as weather proof, not water proof. That is occasional water on the watch is ok. Taking it to a swim or shower is not ok.
I have always worn my watches in the shower. I don't know why I do I just always have. So when I got the original gear I had a problem remembering to take it off. A couple times I had gotten all the way in before I realized I still had it on. It got wet but as soon as I realized I took it off and dried it. Never had a problem with water getting inside it. When I got my gear s I was hesitant the first couple times making sure to try and keep it out of the spray of the shower head. Now I don't even think about it. I just take it off when I'm done and dry it off with the towel. Only the I have noticed is if you get a call after its gotten wet the speaker doesn't seem quite as loud like there is still some water covering the speaker hole. Other than that no problems at all. Also when I wash my hands throughout the day l don't have to worry about it getting wet like I did the first gear I had. I'm glad the made it water resistant.
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My regular watches are rated 100-meter and no time limit. I will take that for swim or shower, not Gear S. Rusts take time to form and since it is inside the watch, you really don't know until it is dead. I will not take that chance for mine.
I'll pass on having it exposed to water, I'll just take it off
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My regular watches are rated 100-meter and no time limit. I will take that for swim or shower, not Gear S. Rusts take time to form and since it is inside the watch, you really don't know until it is dead. I will not take that chance for mine.
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Rust. Lol
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True, it's pretty confusing. Waterproof and not waterproof
I had already some bath with it, shower, running in the light rain and it still works and I hope it will stays that way.
Speaker needs to dry out though as sound is terrible. Not just quiet but TERRIBLE!
The other thing is that I would love to take Gear S on a swimming pool + sauna - what about that? Have anyone tried it?
There was a post that someone went swimming and it killed it
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eclipse05x said:
True, it's pretty confusing. Waterproof and not waterproof
I had already some bath with it, shower, running in the light rain and it still works and I hope it will stays that way.
Speaker needs to dry out though as sound is terrible. Not just quiet but TERRIBLE!
The other thing is that I would love to take Gear S on a swimming pool + sauna - what about that? Have anyone tried it?
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The key term is Water "Resistant" not Waterproof. After the thread by kamieniarz seen here ,I probably wouldnt do it. Just my $0.02 .
I take mine in the hot tub and steam room a few times a week. I've never had any issues with it, speaker or moisture under the screen or anything else. I don't keep it submerged for long and I'm careful with how quickly I move my hand under water. I've read the thread mentioned above where somebody took their watch swimming and it got water damaged and it's not surprising. Slamming your wrist into the water over and over seems like it exceeded the pressure threshold. I don't shower with it on for the same reason. My main concern is the chlorine from the hot tub turning the watchband green.
I'm not suggesting anybody out there get their Gear S wet, but if you do use discretion about when and under what conditions you expose it to water.
Don't get the Gear S too wet
I have taken it into pools, rain, shower.
Sadly, during my vacation, my Gear S screen stopped working while in the water. I'm super cautious not to go much under water. I don't really swim with it, just walk in the water. The screen quit working. I"m super annoyed. Samsung support says it's not covered under the warranty. I also had the broken pin issue with the charging cradle. Sending it in, if they find it was water damage, then they will charge me, which I have no idea what the amount will be.
eclipse05x said:
True, it's pretty confusing. Waterproof and not waterproof
I had already some bath with it, shower, running in the light rain and it still works and I hope it will stays that way.
Speaker needs to dry out though as sound is terrible. Not just quiet but TERRIBLE!
The other thing is that I would love to take Gear S on a swimming pool + sauna - what about that? Have anyone tried it?
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Rust. Lol
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I read in many places, go swim with it, shower, etc. Wrong!
I did that for a bit, last week, stopped working in the pool. I only walk in the pool a bit, very shallow, and take showers. Even so, suddenly the screen showed strange patterns then quit working.
I thought the use case of leaving phone behind in locker or car and just go in pool with watch was awesome, but too good to be true. I actually wish they told people not to swim or take showers with it.
Agree with others, now, just use the water resistant feature as an emergency
i've showered with my Gear2 many times with no issues. because of the sim slot in the GearS, i havent chanced it yet. if the sim cover is not on correctly, or off a bit, water can get in it seems.
I was kayaking with my Gear S, it tipped over and I was in the ocean swimming with the Gear S on. I was swimming in the water trying to get back onto my kayak for at least 5 minutes. The Gear S held up well. Only issue was the speaker would crackle when it was used. After a couple days, it stopped crackling. I assume it was the speaker drying off. Zero issues. When I got home, I took it out of the band and gave everything a thorough cleaning. I popped open the sim card cover, and it was untouched by any water.
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The other thing is that I would love to take Gear S on a swimming pool + sauna - what about that? Have anyone tried it?
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It's not survivable in that environment. 2 minutes in the hot tub destroyed mine. Thankfully the CC company covered the loss, it was within 90 days.
-Read the manual, while waterproof, any pressure on the seals can cause a leak, such as thermal expansions, or exposure to water jets, and currents from swimming.
Just tested under the shower more than 20 times and I had no problem but after reading your comments I am a bit afraid now... it was also hit by some salt water without being submerged... so far so good...
This is the page of facebook samsung Italy. misleading advertising. I never open the lid to the sim. At best, I took a shower with the smartwatch roofs lean against. Mandate under warranty but Samsung refused to ensure warranty saying that she had entered into water. resumo history, they asked me 350 Euros to fix, since I paid the new gear's 350. sorry my English but I used google translator. Here in Italy I found nothing on the subject.
I just got the watch a couple of weeks ago and it was working fine till today. I just fully recharged it and turned it on. The display was partially dimmed it flickered and there were thin white lines on the screen.
I later restarted the watch but now it will just display a dark screen with thin white lines.
Tried resetting the watch again and now it wont even turn on.
The watch is waterproof so wearing it while swimming wasn't the issue?
What can i do?
Also sorry if this is the wrong section to post this, i tried the xiaomi forums but i god no help there.
Watch is water resistant, not waterproof. So swimming should be an issue.
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Watch is water resistant, not waterproof. So swimming should be an issue.
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"The tracker can withstand a maximum of 1 meter of water for up to 30 minutes. Please note, submerging your tracker beyond the maximum depth or beyond the maximum time frame could potentially harm the device and cause hardware issues."
It was a short swim on the surface of the water so i see no problem here. Also how come the watch can withstand a 30 minute water touch and can't withstand more?
the watch is NOT waterproof, and its strongly advised not to swim with it. unfortunately, your unit is KIA.
I've seen already few users that had the same experience after swimming, they had to replace the unit, and its not covered under warranty as well.
sorry :\
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"The tracker can withstand a maximum of 1 meter of water for up to 30 minutes. Please note, submerging your tracker beyond the maximum depth or beyond the maximum time frame could potentially harm the device and cause hardware issues."
It was a short swim on the surface of the water so i see no problem here. Also how come the watch can withstand a 30 minute water touch and can't withstand more?
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That's the official description of a IP67 rating and how the exact tests are done. There is the time and the water pressure that the watch must withstand (1m water pressure).
However, even just swimming, which moves the arms and add water pressure by the movement of the watch can exceed the water pressure of 1 meter easily. Also sometime, washing the watch under running water can exceed the water pressure of 1m.
And yes to @1immortal, this rating is not waterproof, it is indeed called water resistant only.
Sorry for your watch.
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That's the official description of a IP67 rating and how the exact tests are done. There is the time and the water pressure that the watch must withstand (1m water pressure).
However, even just swimming, which moves the arms and add water pressure by the movement of the watch can exceed the water pressure of 1 meter easily. Also sometime, washing the watch under running water can exceed the water pressure of 1m.
And yes to @1immortal, this rating is not waterproof, it is indeed called water resistant only.
Sorry for your watch.
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Thank you all for helping, i did though the problem was somewhere else and yes i missread the watch description in which it says it is water resistant which kinda mislead me thinking i can use it in water ( English is not my native language )
Crap. I washed my watch using the faucet. I hope no water got in.
My amazfit watch was working fine but once I switched it off its not turning on? What could be the issue.. there is a think white line appearing and its only one month
the official ads says IP68. when users face waterproof issues, suddenly everyone said it's only IP67. How come?
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the official ads says IP68. when users face waterproof issues, suddenly everyone said it's only IP67. How come?
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Where is that stated?
https://us.amazfit.com/shop/pace?variant=25112 there it states IP67
fzelle said:
Where is that stated?
https://us.amazfit.com/shop/pace?variant=25112 there it states IP67
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I'm not trying to be rude, but
http://amazfitcentral.com/amazfit-bip-specifications/ = IP68
https://www.gearbest.com/smart-watches/pp_962565.html = IP68
https://xiaomi-mi.com/mitu-watches/amazfit-bip-smartwatch-youth-edition-gray/ = IP68
http://www.smartwatchspecifications...it-smartwatch-youth-edition-bip-lite-version/ = IP68
and more.
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I'm not trying to be rude, but
http://amazfitcentral.com/amazfit-bip-specifications/ = IP68
https://www.gearbest.com/smart-watches/pp_962565.html = IP68
https://xiaomi-mi.com/mitu-watches/amazfit-bip-smartwatch-youth-edition-gray/ = IP68
http://www.smartwatchspecifications...it-smartwatch-youth-edition-bip-lite-version/ = IP68
and more.
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You are pointing to the Amazfit BIP, not to the Amazfit Pace.
Two completely different devices
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You are pointing to the Amazfit BIP, not to the Amazfit Pace.
Two completely different devices
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well OP doesn't state which Amazfit was it. So I just assumed. And there's a lot of people complaining their BIP is getting water inside the screen. This leave me wondering on the legibility of the ads.
Amazfit bip
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well OP doesn't state which Amazfit was it. So I just assumed. And there's a lot of people complaining their BIP is getting water inside the screen. This leave me wondering on the legibility of the ads.
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Hi all,
My amazbit bip got water inside, and I bought that as the website standed it was IP68, so don't buy that piece of liar crap.
Regards
I've worn my bip whilst washing dishes, had it 2 weeks and the brightness & back light no longer work I can only point to this as otherwise it's had a pretty easy life till now
Got exactly the same problem. The BIP watch doesn't seems to be as resistant as specification says
I got the same problem my display gets blurry 1st then it keeps getting disappear until its fully off then later i plug my watchg to charger and it comes back
i dunno whats the issue it mostly happens when i am riding my bike and the watch is exposed in the winter air
but it happens much often when the watch is expose to weather but it turns on too lol
does anyone have a fix is it software or hardware
thanks
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I got the same problem my display gets blurry 1st then it keeps getting disappear until its fully off then later i plug my watchg to charger and it comes back
i dunno whats the issue it mostly happens when i am riding my bike and the watch is exposed in the winter air
but it happens much often when the watch is expose to weather but it turns on too lol
does anyone have a fix is it software or hardware
thanks
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On my side the watch display is now dead. 2 White Spots, the light on but no display... the watch died...
I solved the problem after swimming by extensive charging. I left the watch charging for over month (forgotten because I thougth it is death). But when I switched it on it was perfectly working. I think the heat helped it. Now I have the same problem and it was just raining a little bit
Amazfit Stratos screen crash
Sorry to necro this thread...
Not sure which model OP is talking about but...
I have an Amazfit Stratos that I bought 14 months ago - July 2019 (wow, just out of warranty ). Has been working fine until I had a shower while wearing it today. Suddenly the screen went berserk (sorry for my technical jargon there) but it still buzzes for notifications. To be clear, I have been wearing it while swimming and showering and washing for the whole time I have owned it because that is what the advertising indicates it can do. In fact it brags about having a swimming tracking functions and being water resistant to 50m in pool and ocean.
So now it is sitting in a bag of rice on a radiator hoping it will dry out and work again until I buy a suitable replacement.
Just a message to Xiaomi Huami if you're paying attention and care about return business: I never buy another product from a company if something I bought dies just out of warranty. It's a really bad sign, and I know I'm not alone. It's a really bad long term business strategy unless your product is so cheap to buy that customers consider it disposable. #poop
Hi, I know that the smart watch is Ip67 protected. Up to 30 minutes maximum depth of one meter. Is it possible to swim with him in the pool without diving to depth at all and a maximum of 20-25 minutes? (swimming during breaks).
Also, which app has the swimming area that works with this watch?
Thanks.
I would say no, watches for swimming are usually rated at least 5 ATM, this is 50 meters. The problem with these ratings is that they rate pressure, and the pressure is measured when the object is motionless. When you start moving the object, the pressure increases. This is what you feel when swimming.
Check here for the classifications. Note that a 5 ATM watch doesn't even pass for snorkeling.
Personally, I wouldn't risk it.
It can withstand hand wash, rain etc.
I don't go with it into the shower
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You can swim with it - no problem. I use my for swimming from the start - actually I only take it off when charging.
1 year already -> no problem.
p.s. Do not try in see - due to the salt it could be damaged somehow. I would not try. But pools - no problem at all.
Then you are lucky, because IP67 is called water resistance, not waterproof.
http://www.trustedreviews.com/opinion/what-is-ip68-ip-ratings-explained-2947135
The second you move the watch under water, the pressure will exceed the 1.5 meter mark and the risk of a breach is quite high.
We have a lot of people here that had that happen.
Mine , after 5 months of no problem shower with it , now has less than half a day duration after swimming in a pool.
Swam with them in the pool for the test, I got them for free. As a result, they did not survive. Then I decided for myself to look for a watch that I can not take off my hands and they will not be afraid of moisture and damage.
I found this option here Casio Pro Trek PRW2500T. They passed my rigorous tests and falls and long voyages, except boiling Everything is fine with them, so they have some confidence, but I only use them for 3 months, so time will tell.
I ordered the amazfit gtr from aliexpress but before it arrived I found the Huawei Gt 2 sold at a local store with local 2 year warranty and I decided to go for it.
Meanwhile the gtr arrived and it's waiting for me to go pick it up and I'm not sure which watch to keep. The Huawei works well and compared to the gtr it has an internal storage where I can store music (which I will never do because all my music is on Spotify) and I can talk on the phone with it cause it has a mic and a speaker (which works well when I'm inside). The biggest con is that it costs 150 Euro more then the gtr and I'm not sure it's worth it but I do have a valid warranty which I can actually use (the gtr has an aliexpress warranty which is probably unusable).
Honestly for the price difference I'd go with the gtr but I heard it has some issues with the GPS. Is that a major problem? Can it still track running without showing location?
If you want to use it for running and using the GPS, it's a no go. For the rest it's a perfect watch for reading time, notifications, step counting and heart rate.
I'd return the GTR if you are intending on using the watch for tracking any activities such as running walking or cycling. The GPS function of the GTR just isn't up to scratch.
That aside if you only want a smart watch for notifications, step counting, heart rate monitoring and basic watch then the GTR is worth keeping. Its a lovely looking watch, the battery life is amazing and the watch is very smooth and responsive to use
I was in a similar boat. But in my case I went for GTR mainly because it looks much better and I wanted a watch mainly for notifications and music controls. GT2 biggest con is that it has a ugly black border around outer edge of screen which was for me a deal breaker. I had the opportunity to try both in a store and GTR was a much better looking and for only £90 was a no brainer.
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If you want to use it for running and using the GPS, it's a no go. For the rest it's a perfect watch for reading time, notifications, step counting and heart rate.
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Can it track indoors running in the gym? How about walking outdoors? It doesn't work at all?
And overall guys, is the gtr a good watch? Are you satisfied with everything except GPS? Can you take showers with it?
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Can it track indoors running in the gym? How about walking outdoors? It doesn't work at all?
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Can't comment on running in the gym as I don't do this but for outdoor tracking of walking running or cycling the GPS tracking is not very accurate and it can take up to 15 minutes to get a GPS lock before you can start your activity.
You should also be able to shower with it but I don't so can't comment on how effective the water proofing is.
I wear it occasionally in showers, no problem until now.
I also swam in the pool(many times) with it back in August and no problems so far. Just be sure to wear it in the shower afterwards, to clean off the chlorine.
I have just got this watch for my swimming. So far I am very pleased with it but I am having an issue with the lap counting. Firstly I hope this is not too out there but it seems when I wear it on the left wrist I get extra laps counted, it seems to tick over laps in the middle of laps...after 4 pulls. I have tried it on my right wrist once and it worked perfectly. My theory is I damaged my left arm many years ago and have somewhat limited rotation and my stroke on the left is not as high as my right. This round arm stroke seems to trigger the watch as a lap. I know the answer maybe to wear it on the right but I have always worn my watches on the left (60+ years).
It seems the sensor(s) might be a bit sensitive and I wonder if anyone else has had a problem. Another thing is I have a mi Band 6 and it was very accurate on my left arm.
I would be pleased to hear from other stratos 2 swimmers if they have accuracy problems in the lap counts...maybe there is another setting I have not found yet. (I do set it to the the correct wrist).
As I said the watch has all I need as far as usability goes I just need to get the accuracy....Thanks.
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I have just got this watch for my swimming. So far I am very pleased with it but I am having an issue with the lap counting. Firstly I hope this is not too out there but it seems when I wear it on the left wrist I get extra laps counted, it seems to tick over laps in the middle of laps...after 4 pulls. I have tried it on my right wrist once and it worked perfectly. My theory is I damaged my left arm many years ago and have somewhat limited rotation and my stroke on the left is not as high as my right. This round arm stroke seems to trigger the watch as a lap. I know the answer maybe to wear it on the right but I have always worn my watches on the left (60+ years).
It seems the sensor(s) might be a bit sensitive and I wonder if anyone else has had a problem. Another thing is I have a mi Band 6 and it was very accurate on my left arm.
I would be pleased to hear from other stratos 2 swimmers if they have accuracy problems in the lap counts...maybe there is another setting I have not found yet. (I do set it to the the correct wrist).
As I said the watch has all I need as far as usability goes I just need to get the accuracy....Thanks.
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A quick update....I have done several more swims with the watch on my right wrist and it performs perfectly....looks like my action is the culprit. This post may be of some help if you are having accuracy problems....