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Hi! This is my first post on XDA.
As a user of CM for more than a year ago on my i9300, and after enduring a lot of bugs, I wonder: What happens to CM?
It's a known fact that the Exynos platform is a headache for developers because there is no documentation or open sources from Samsung. So, things like the camera, the sound system, the HDMI output and the GPU do not work as they should.
However, here are many good developers who have fixed these bugs, or at least improve them a bit. And most of these fixes are open source and accessible by everyone on Github.
So, what is waiting CM to implement them? Giving credit to their authors, obviously.
CyanogenMod announces itself as an alternative to the stock firmware that lets you take full advantage of your smartphone, making it better and more stable. Now they are also a company: Cyanogen Inc. As a reputable brand, it should offer a higher quality firmware. ROMs like Nameless (I'm using it right now) works better even being "not official".
This is just an opinion as a user. I'm not criticizing or forcing anyone to do anything. But if there are hundreds of people using a ROM with bugs that were fixed, why not implement them? I would be the first to help, but my skills are just about webdev.
Respect and thanks for i9300 developers on XDA, and sorry about my bad English. When I use my native language I express myself MUCH better. Trust me. lol
Thanks for reading.
There's no i9300 maintainer, and they accept pull requests (on gerrit) when somebody sends them.
Also, the fact that there's no i9300 maintainer is directly connected with what you already said - lack of proper documentation. Nobody wants to fix the mess that has been created since whole this time. The amount of hacks required to make AOSP work on i9300 is too damn high. I'm slowly fixing this mess, making i9300 a bit better supported, but it's still a long way until it's done. Take a look at ArchiKernel for example, why I had to create my own kernel? Because smdk4412 sources were so much outdated that they finished around update7, right after sudden death fix. XXELLA, 4.1.2 Android times, hello. So first thing was to cleanup the kernel mess, use up-to-date samsung sources (used for stocks) and make them work with AOSP. Now, if I commit my work to CM, they'll deny this instantly because new kernel supports only i9300 and this commit would break all other exynos4 variants from compiling. Yes, together we COULD fix it, make it work with other devices. But I have better things to do than trying to fix whole exynos4 family, I focus on i9300.
This is one of the reasons why we won't see any official cm12 nightly for i9300. Because nobody is going to maintain that. Even if we can fix something, nobody is going to commit that, unless we put serious effort for making it universal across all supported devices.
That's a real shame the device is in such a mess.
Actually, to be fair, using Omnirom 4.4.4, I'm finding that the only thing that doesn't work properly is the notification led (no one seems to know why it only works 3 times out of 4).
I'll probably end up buying a new phone next year, anyway, since buy this time next year the i9300 will be almost 4 years old. In smartphone terms, that means it's getting along a bit.
(oh, and thanks for all your work on it, JustArchi!)
JustArchi said:
There's no i9300 maintainer, and they accept pull requests (on gerrit) when somebody sends them.
Also, the fact that there's no i9300 maintainer is directly connected with what you already said - lack of proper documentation. Nobody wants to fix the mess that has been created since whole this time. The amount of hacks required to make AOSP work on i9300 is too damn high. I'm slowly fixing this mess, making i9300 a bit better supported, but it's still a long way until it's done. Take a look at ArchiKernel for example, why I had to create my own kernel? Because smdk4412 sources were so much outdated that they finished around update7, right after sudden death fix. XXELLA, 4.1.2 Android times, hello. So first thing was to cleanup the kernel mess, use up-to-date samsung sources (used for stocks) and make them work with AOSP. Now, if I commit my work to CM, they'll deny this instantly because new kernel supports only i9300 and this commit would break all other exynos4 variants from compiling. Yes, together we COULD fix it, make it work with other devices. But I have better things to do than trying to fix whole exynos4 family, I focus on i9300.
This is one of the reasons why we won't see any official cm12 nightly for i9300. Because nobody is going to maintain that. Even if we can fix something, nobody is going to commit that, unless we put serious effort for making it universal across all supported devices.
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Thanks for answering my topic. The opinion of a developer like you is very appreciated.
This situation only seems to give more reasons for not buy a Samsung phone again. This lack of support from the manufacturer is a disrespect to the user's investment. And fragmentation strikes again. Sad but true.
Thanks again for your great work of keeping this device alive for all of us.
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That's a real shame the device is in such a mess.
Actually, to be fair, using Omnirom 4.4.4, I'm finding that the only thing that doesn't work properly is the notification led (no one seems to know why it only works 3 times out of 4).
I'll probably end up buying a new phone next year, anyway, since buy this time next year the i9300 will be almost 4 years old. In smartphone terms, that means it's getting along a bit.
(oh, and thanks for all your work on it, JustArchi!)
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I tried OmniROM few months ago, but it had some annoying bugs (like camera crashes) and I missed some customizations of CyanogenMod. Anyway, I'll try it again. My next buy might be a Motorola phone. The AOSP support is priceless.
ouch01 said:
I tried OmniROM few months ago, but it had some annoying bugs (like camera crashes) and I missed some customizations of CyanogenMod. Anyway, I'll try it again. My next buy might be a Motorola phone. The AOSP support is priceless.
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I had the camera crash on CM11 M11, and switched over to Omnirom shortly after that. I'm using Google Camera with an Omnirom nightly from November, and I've never had a camera crash.
Agree with you about getting a Motorola. I'd love it if the next Moto G refresh (if there is one) came with some more RAM, increased storage (16GB instead of 8), 4G, and a multicolour led. Being able to customize the colours to suit the category of app is something I love about custom ROMs. That should be baked into Android, to be honest (but at least there's LightFlow).
JustArchi said:
There's no i9300 maintainer, and they accept pull requests (on gerrit) when somebody sends them.
Also, the fact that there's no i9300 maintainer is directly connected with what you already said - lack of proper documentation. Nobody wants to fix the mess that has been created since whole this time. The amount of hacks required to make AOSP work on i9300 is too damn high. I'm slowly fixing this mess, making i9300 a bit better supported, but it's still a long way until it's done. Take a look at ArchiKernel for example, why I had to create my own kernel? Because smdk4412 sources were so much outdated that they finished around update7, right after sudden death fix. XXELLA, 4.1.2 Android times, hello. So first thing was to cleanup the kernel mess, use up-to-date samsung sources (used for stocks) and make them work with AOSP. Now, if I commit my work to CM, they'll deny this instantly because new kernel supports only i9300 and this commit would break all other exynos4 variants from compiling. Yes, together we COULD fix it, make it work with other devices. But I have better things to do than trying to fix whole exynos4 family, I focus on i9300.
This is one of the reasons why we won't see any official cm12 nightly for i9300. Because nobody is going to maintain that. Even if we can fix something, nobody is going to commit that, unless we put serious effort for making it universal across all supported devices.
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i feel you
SlimRoms is the answer
unlike CM, Slim has a I9300 maintainer, has support, every weekly update works properly.
Devs should really take a look at Slim's Gerrit and Freenode/#SlimDev
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I had the camera crash on CM11 M11, and switched over to Omnirom shortly after that. I'm using Google Camera with an Omnirom nightly from November, and I've never had a camera crash.
Agree with you about getting a Motorola. I'd love it if the next Moto G refresh (if there is one) came with some more RAM, increased storage (16GB instead of 8), 4G, and a multicolour led. Being able to customize the colours to suit the category of app is something I love about custom ROMs. That should be baked into Android, to be honest (but at least there's LightFlow).
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The thing with Motorola is that their stock roms are basically just stock android. No laggy touchwiz skins, just a google launcher. Bloatware is at a minimum. A low spec phone like the moto G still is great because of how vanilla its experience is.
Rumours have it that the galaxy S6 international variant will have an exynos processor. I found a thread comparing the leaked info of the snapdragon 810 vs the next exynos processor and it seems that the exynos is getting a lot of popularity from users on the thread and it ain't no slouch. As it is now, phone's are so fast, that it's very hard to find a way of improving them. Like who compares app opening times nowadays? That will be much the case for 2015's flagships as well. I doubt I'd be disappointed if I had the next Samsung release if I thought I'd be in for a laggy UI, it's just whether I can tolerate the touchwiz experience or if I wanna switch to a vanilla aosp rom. That's where the problem arises.
arashvenus said:
SlimRoms is the answer
unlike CM, Slim has a I9300 maintainer, has support, every weekly update works properly.
Devs should really take a look at Slim's Gerrit and Freenode/#SlimDev
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But only in your imagination. There is noone at slimrom. Just check their gerrit.
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Rumours have it that the galaxy S6 international variant will have an exynos processor .... I found a thread comparing the leaked info of the snapdragon 810 vs the next exynos processor and it seems that the exynos is getting a lot of popularity from users on the thread and it ain't no slouch.
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Aren't the Exynos processors the cause of much grief in the open source community, though? Aren't Qualcomm processors, such as the Snapdragon, much more popular because they're easier to work with..?
StephenJSweeney said:
Aren't the Exynos processors the cause of much grief in the open source community, though? Aren't Qualcomm processors, such as the Snapdragon, much more popular because they're easier to work with..?
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Correct.
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Correct.
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Well then, no more Samsung phones for me, then. Not unless they use Qualcomm..!
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Aren't the Exynos processors the cause of much grief in the open source community, though? Aren't Qualcomm processors, such as the Snapdragon, much more popular because they're easier to work with..?
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Yes, that's what i thought but people are showing interests due to how powerful the processor is. I think they're saying it's more powerful than the snapdragon 810. I'm not that techy but they were mentioning that the new exynos will be smaller in size or something, whilst the snapdragon will be bigger. Apparently smaller is better, but yes the problem is open sourcing. If you want to install a stock android custom rom, it will be difficult for developers to build a rom that can push your phone to it's full potential. Snapdragon doesn't have this problem.
Basically if you love flashing different roms that are fully functional a snapdragon 810 phone is for you. If you like what Samsung offers in it's next flagship and won't be tempted to flash other roms then the exynos is for you
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Yes, that's what i thought but people are showing interests due to how powerful the processor is. I think they're saying it's more powerful than the snapdragon 810. I'm not that techy but they were mentioning that the new exynos will be smaller in size or something, whilst the snapdragon will be bigger. Apparently smaller is better, but yes the problem is open sourcing. If you want to install a stock android custom rom, it will be difficult for developers to build a rom that can push your phone to it's full potential. Snapdragon doesn't have this problem.
Basically if you love flashing different roms that are fully functional a snapdragon 810 phone is for you. If you like what Samsung offers in it's next flagship and won't be tempted to flash other roms then the exynos is for you
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I prefer to have less powerful processor, with full documentation how it works, rather than exynos and big giant hackish black box, which noone understands.
The problem is not with the exynos, but with Samsung. Judging from Exynos4, their kernel sources and own experience, exynos may look like it works, but amount of hacks and dirty workarounds to make it work, is too damn high. This could all be solved if Samsung changed their policy from "respect GPL, f*ck the rest" to "respect developers, show them that our SoC can be developer-friendly, too".
The problem is that we're not even 0.01% of Samsung sales, so why should they care. I'm not going to buy Samsung phone again, regardless if it has Snapdragon inside or not. The problem is not with the Exynos, the problem is in Samsung's policy.
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I prefer to have less powerful processor, with full documentation how it works, rather than exynos and big giant hackish black box, which noone understands.
The problem is not with the exynos, but with Samsung. Judging from Exynos4, their kernel sources and own experience, exynos may look like it works, but amount of hacks and dirty workarounds to make it work, is too damn high. This could all be solved if Samsung changed their policy from "respect GPL, f*ck the rest" to "respect developers, show them that our SoC can be developer-friendly, too".
The problem is that we're not even 0.01% of Samsung sales, so why should they care. I'm not going to buy Samsung phone again, regardless if it has Snapdragon inside or not. The problem is not with the Exynos, the problem is in Samsung's policy.
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Yeah +1 for that. My next Phone will be definitly a Sony or a One plus. I think both are the developer friendliest in android ...
what for get android with huge ram but still lag? i won't go for android for sure. just stick with ios better. with android 8gb & asop, cm etc still can't fix the bugs. android received update so slow than ios.
khanmein said:
what for get android with huge ram but still lag? i won't go for android for sure. just stick with ios better. with android 8gb & asop, cm etc still can't fix the bugs. android received update so slow than ios.
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Yeah you are right but i think the most decent phone is the htc one......i would buy a windows phone rather than an iPhone
http://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/2qn8s4/new_impressive_lollipop_touchwiz_gives_nexus_line/
This is an interesting article on the new touchwiz that appears in android lollipop on the galaxy note 3. Surprisingly I can see nothing but praise from this person, apparently it seems to be running very well in comparison to touchwiz on KitKat. Is Samsung finally doing something good?
whatsgood said:
http://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/2qn8s4/new_impressive_lollipop_touchwiz_gives_nexus_line/
This is an interesting article on the new touchwiz that appears in android lollipop on the galaxy note 3. Surprisingly I can see nothing but praise from this person, apparently it seems to be running very well in comparison to touchwiz on KitKat. Is Samsung finally doing something good?
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its useless even if they port it to our i9300..1gb of ram..maybe its time to upgrade to more stronger phone..
Hi there to everyone on XDA.
I hope someone can help me out.
I have a question...
How much resources do Android 7.1.2 use compared to Android 6.0?
The reason im asking this is, I used to have an Samsung S4.I loved that phone but, then one evening the phone just went dead and wouldn't power on again.Dont know if my screen broke or if it's the pc board itself.So I got an Huawei Y560 as replacement which is about half the specs of the S4.I flashed my Samsung from CM12 all the way up to Lineage 7.1 and even used RR 5.8.XDA really changed my world and made me appreciate my phone so much more.Amazing work the developers do here on this site.
Anyhow my S4 ran all these roms flawlessly(Well obviously because the roms was made for the phone),but I am now a bit concerned about flashing my Y560 being at ½ the hardware the Samsung had.
Will the roms mentioned above run smoothly and will I have enough memory to run big apps (memory consuming apps),will the cpu keep up running multiple apps?All these questions make me a bit hesitant.
My main concern is about Nougat (7.1.2) I'm pretty sure 6.0 will run without problems,but I really want to flash Nougat.I will appreciate any help you guys can give me.
Thanks
Kind Regards
Just too early but mention if there's any news about it!
ha,ha,ha,ha,roflol!!
It will come but probably later in February or later
Too soon bro!
Too soon!
Replying now from nougat G6 man, chill.
Well, for the time frame of Oreo, i belive until May, June next year we get it...not sure but probably around that time.
They still sale lg g6 rebranded thinqAI (or whatever is called) in my country so i think (hope so) they will update to P
Funny joke. My contract will be done long before we get Android Pie.
Let's be honest about P.
What is really new as far as the user experience is concerned? Mainly insignificant cosmetic things.
Under the hood most of the changes are to accomodate new hardware, for the benefit of Google and other Big Data companies to allow them to collect more data on us and increase profits.
Android matured into a modern OS quite a while ago, and not much has really changed since Lollipop (android 5) or even Kit Kat as far as the user experience is concerned.
Also, as with Oreo, don't expect improvements in "performance" or battery life. For each upgrade we are sold some crap about more efficient processes, etc, but in reality newer versions come with progressively heavier demands on the processor and battery so we get decrements in performance and battery life.
So I'm not really excited....
My phone just updated to Oreo today lol. Dunno about battery life yet but i felt a bit snappier compared to Nougat.
jshames said:
Let's be honest about P.
What is really new as far as the user experience is concerned? Mainly insignificant cosmetic things.
Under the hood most of the changes are to accomodate new hardware, for the benefit of Google and other Big Data companies to allow them to collect more data on us and increase profits.
Android matured into a modern OS quite a while ago, and not much has really changed since Lollipop (android 5) or even Kit Kat as far as the user experience is concerned.
Also, as with Oreo, don't expect improvements in "performance" or battery life. For each upgrade we are sold some crap about more efficient processes, etc, but in reality newer versions come with progressively heavier demands on the processor and battery so we get decrements in performance and battery life.
So I'm not really excited....
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Andorid P has it baked in the ability to modify and totally change your MAC wifi ID at will, or have it randomly change daily. This is the MAIN way google tracks you in malls, cities, etc when you turn off location services and network based location. It's the one thing I really want on my lineageOS microg build but I don't want to have to root the phone to do it.
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g6 hasn't been out long enough. wait a year:crying::crying::crying:
Using Android Pie now.
Perfect - zero bugs
Matt
mylgphones.com
pie beta is here. It's actually really good. I've been using it for about a month. had pretty smooth experience. https://www.reddit.com/r/lgg6/comments/d0ru7s/new_beta_updates_h870_v30a_rootedunrooted_and/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1v73-o-8xM&t=22s
Flashable zip of Android Pie 30A:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1CtOKoUO-wivyawH2kwaUVlRUbhXPibOw
.UP version of Android Pie 30A:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1EjqMTFDsCMi-qoSylKcm4xF1CkD33lxz
Matt
matthew33 said:
Flashable zip of Android Pie 30A:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1CtOKoUO-wivyawH2kwaUVlRUbhXPibOw
.UP version of Android Pie 30A:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1EjqMTFDsCMi-qoSylKcm4xF1CkD33lxz
Matt
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Hi. Can you provide me with the LGUP link that you guys are using for flashing .up beta file..... I am using H873 No root.
harib12 said:
Hi. Can you provide me with the LGUP link that you guys are using for flashing .up beta file..... I am using H873 No root.
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I used this one LGUP with Uppercut
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g5/development/uppercut-lgup-loader-g5-variants-t3511295
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I used this one LGUP with Uppercut
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g5/development/uppercut-lgup-loader-g5-variants-t3511295
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Thanks already downloaded
Hello
I've got some strange and somewhat tough questions or maybe not?:
1. I've seen a lot of POCO F1 photos and I'm not exactly sure if it has a good body around it so that I could not touch the screen by accident with that hand which is holding the phone while the other is writing SMS. If You need a comparison Samsung S5 and A8 2018 was good at it and they are what I would like the POCO F1 to be.
2. Is the awsesome CPU the only good pieace of hardware in that phone. How about RAM and storage speed?
3. Will POCO br treated like Mi phones or like Redmi phones?
4. How many Android upgrades wil it receive?
5. Is it Project Treble fully compatible?
Thanks and please reply what You think
The SD845 is not a CPU, it's an SoC comprised of many components. This includes Kyro CPU clusters, DSP, Adreno, x20 modem, LPDDR4x support (RAM), and UFS 2.1 support.
Third & fourth question is impossible to answer, the company hasn't made a formal promise. This phone will cannibalize their sales, so who knows.
Ace42 said:
The SD845 is not a CPU, it's an SoC comprised of many components. This includes Kyro CPU clusters, DSP, Adreno, x20 modem, LPDDR4x support (RAM), and UFS 2.1 support.
Third & fourth question is impossible to answer, the company hasn't made a formal promise. This phone will cannibalize their sales, so who knows.
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Sorry, it's a SoC, too much IT around me xDD.
Can You tell me what do you mean by saying that this phone will cannibalize their sales? (My English is bad)
How about question no 1?
Why would u buy one of their 20+ phones they have available now, when this one is so cheap?
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Why would u buy one of their 20+ phones they have available now, when this one is so cheap?
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It is complicated
Was in reference to the post above mine
To answer the unanswered questions
Poco f1 will be treated like a poco phone.
They promised Android pie.
Any phone that comes with android 8 pre installed should be 100% treble compatible.
Peace
selvarajrajkanna said:
To answer the unanswered questions
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Which questions?
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Which questions?
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Last two
selvarajrajkanna said:
Last two
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It's complicated, sorry my Friend.
androidbadboy said:
Hello
I've got some strange and somewhat tough questions or maybe not?:
1. I've seen a lot of POCO F1 photos and I'm not exactly sure if it has a good body around it so that I could not touch the screen by accident with that hand which is holding the phone while the other is writing SMS. If You need a comparison Samsung S5 and A8 2018 was good at it and they are what I would like the POCO F1 to be.
2. Is the awsesome CPU the only good pieace of hardware in that phone. How about RAM and storage speed?
3. Will POCO br treated like Mi phones or like Redmi phones?
4. How many Android upgrades wil it receive?
5. Is it Project Treble fully compatible?
Thanks and please reply what You think
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1. I don't think that will be a issue during normal use... It will be issue in any phone of You use it without a proper grip or while typing and holding with the same hand...
2. In simple words RAM and storage should also be really Good... Overall performance of this device will be really Amazing so need not worry about RAM or storage speed bottleneck...
3. It will be totally different from Mi and Redmi... Poco will be independent in software and development while sales and services will be carried out by Xiaomi...
4. That's a question that needs time to be answered but since it is independent from Mi and Redmi, it should atleast get 2 (Android P and Q) android version updates (in My view) but it will surely get Android Pie as it was announced... MIUI update should be coming for it for atleast 2 years (usually 3)...
5. Since it is released with Android Oreo, it is Treble Enabled...
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1. I don't think that will be a issue during normal use... It will be issue in any phone of You use it without a proper grip or while typing and holding with the same hand...
2. In simple words RAM and storage should also be really Good... Overall performance of this device will be really Amazing so need not worry about RAM or storage speed bottleneck...
3. It will be totally different from Mi and Redmi... Poco will be independent in software and development while sales and services will be carried out by Xiaomi...
4. That's a question that needs time to be answered but since it is independent from Mi and Redmi, it should atleast get 2 (Android P and Q) android version updates (in My view) but it will surely get Android Pie as it was announced... MIUI update should be coming for it for atleast 2 years (usually 3)...
5. Since it is released with Android Oreo, it is Treble Enabled...
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Wow, thanks, You're knowledge is amazing!
Are You a Dev?
androidbadboy said:
Hello
I've got some strange and somewhat tough questions or maybe not?:
1. I've seen a lot of POCO F1 photos and I'm not exactly sure if it has a good body around it so that I could not touch the screen by accident with that hand which is holding the phone while the other is writing SMS. If You need a comparison Samsung S5 and A8 2018 was good at it and they are what I would like the POCO F1 to be.
2. Is the awsesome CPU the only good pieace of hardware in that phone. How about RAM and storage speed?
3. Will POCO br treated like Mi phones or like Redmi phones?
4. How many Android upgrades wil it receive?
5. Is it Project Treble fully compatible?
Thanks and please reply what You think
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1. Poco F1 is amongst the many other phones which boasts of so called "bezel less" body. So clearly your question may be asked for any such phone.
2. Apart from CPU, POCO has a very good GPU, LPDDR4x RAM and UFS 2.1 Storage. So no it's just not the CPU alone.
3. POCO will be treated like a separate phone series and we might see POCO F"2" in coming days. (Realme 1 followed by Realme 2).
4. Pie has been promised by Xiaomi and the phone might just see Android Q as well. Cannot really comment on that.
5. Any phone launching with Android Oreo or later out of the box has to be Project Treble compliant so YES.
androidbadboy said:
Wow, thanks, You're knowledge is amazing!
Are You a Dev?
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Nope... Just another person like You who does a lot of research to gain some knowledge... You will soon be way Better than Me...
androidbadboy said:
Hello
I've got some strange and somewhat tough questions or maybe not?:
1. I've seen a lot of POCO F1 photos and I'm not exactly sure if it has a good body around it so that I could not touch the screen by accident with that hand which is holding the phone while the other is writing SMS. If You need a comparison Samsung S5 and A8 2018 was good at it and they are what I would like the POCO F1 to be.
2. Is the awsesome CPU the only good pieace of hardware in that phone. How about RAM and storage speed?
3. Will POCO br treated like Mi phones or like Redmi phones?
4. How many Android upgrades wil it receive?
5. Is it Project Treble fully compatible?
Thanks and please reply what You think
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2. Apart from the latest generation SOC, the ram and storage is also top notch. It has lpddr4x ram and UFS 2.1 storage so pretty fast and latest gen again.
3 & 4. With kernel source already released, camera2api enabled by default and bootloader unlocked who cares about company software support. We have excellent devs who will make this device fly for a long long time, incidentally the company has promised android P update in the 4th quarter and android security updates regularly.
SingularityHRT3 said:
Nope... Just another person like You who does a lot of research to gain some knowledge... You will soon be way Better than Me...
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WOW Thanks of thinking of me so high but with all do respect I have to disagree. Doing reaserch is not enought to become an expert. In my opinion You have to do some practise: configre many different phones, flash custom roms, service phones, try different apps and be an accual DEV.
THANKS to Ruvy, SingularityHRT3, sanjay0501
as I dont know how to reply on each reply
androidbadboy said:
WOW Thanks of thinking of me so high but with all do respect I have to disagree. Doing reaserch is not enought to become an expert. In my opinion You have to do some practise: configre many different phones, flash custom roms, service phones, try different apps and be an accual DEV.
THANKS to Ruvy, SingularityHRT3, sanjay0501
as I dont know how to reply on each reply
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I do quite a few of them, just feeling bad that I am incapable of building ROMs or by any other such (development) means contributing to the community...
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SingularityHRT3 said:
I do quite a few of them, just feeling bad that I am incapable of building ROMs or by any other such (development) means contributing to the community...
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I tried but I failed at Multi-Qoute
(probably Folks think that I shouldnt confess to that.... well ..... long story)
androidbadboy said:
I tried but I failed at Multi-Qoute
(probably Folks think that I shouldnt confess to that.... well ..... long story)
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Let it go... I just got My hands on the device yesterday when it arrived... Its really Good... Software seems to be not yet optimised properly so it should perform far Better in a few weeks... The rounded edges are a little to big, certain UI and app elements seem to hide behind it...
Agree to that, the rounded edges at the bottom area were certainly unnecessary, so far this is the first annoyance with the phone
SingularityHRT3 said:
Let it go... I just got My hands on the device yesterday when it arrived... Its really Good... Software seems to be not yet optimised properly so it should perform far Better in a few weeks... The rounded edges are a little to big, certain UI and app elements seem to hide behind it...
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Is there anything that predicts developers will take more interest in the Galaxy S23 range, so we can finally have a custom ROM scene for Galaxy?
Maybe because the S23 (all devices: S23, S23 Ultra, S23 Plus) ditch Exynos in favour of a Qualcomm SM8550-AC, an S23-exclusive version of the Snapdragon 8 Gen 2
Did we need a change of wind to make things turn out differently for this device versus earlier Galaxy S ranges? I really hope it's time for renewal, as if im not wrong, the last one that had a nice ROM scene & development going on was the Galaxy S5+ which is so many years ago..
I am talking about a sizable custom ROM scene (all recent devices were dealt a bad hand, or completely lacked it) and the least that would make me very happy: the entry of LineageOS, something that's not been there for years, surely for reasons.
Due to having been away from Galaxy as a result of the lack of ROM scenes in prior devices, I am out of the loop regarding Samsung Galaxy platforms for development support, can anyone state what the main things holding it back have been in recent years? Things being locked down too much, like with other major brands? For what the main blockers are, is there reason to believe that the S23, or the move from Exynos to Qualcomm chips on the other hand, will make a difference? Because as far i know, Qualcomm is the proficient & preferred platform for most devs.
Well as much as Samsung makes everything depend on Knox not being tripped, I doubt it.
I noticed that something may be ongoing when it comes to custom ROM (LineageOS, chipset) work for Galaxy S23+, see: https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/lineageos-progress.4582781/
Development there can benefit S23 Ultra vice versa, as it's similar and also sm8550-ac, who knows if that person succeeds they'll move on to S23 Ultra afterwards. I know it's speculation, but in my book these are hopeful signs.
Rom scene has been dull on this side due to Samsung Crippling devices when rooted (Knox being permanently tripped - hence killing resale value) and Dev's losing interest in Samung. We have 2 roms and 2 devs actively supporting the development here which is nothing like the Galaxy S5 or Note 4 Days.
Aside to the above, The stock devices are so good, that there's nothing more you can achieve by rooting which can outweigh the cons of rooting.
JazonX said:
... We have 2 roms and 2 devs actively supporting the development here...
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There exist at least 2 other very good and stable Roms with lots of mods for the Ultra.
ATN Rom and VN Rom.
just noticed this thread about gsis on the s23 range : https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/how-to-gsi-on-s23-ultra.4564249/#post-88279455 (seems to be interesting)
(also noticed a discussion on installing other gsis on the xiaomi 13 : https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/xiaomi-13-gsi.4572035 )
seems to be interesting to me ... maybe I ll buy an S23 to try (I saw a used one that was not too expensive) but maybe I am not avanced enough to succeed
pierro78 said:
seems to be interesting to me ... maybe I ll buy an S23 to try (I saw a used one that was not too expensive) but maybe I am not avanced enough to succeed
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Nice, i was mainly interested in LineageOS/for development to get going on something like the latest Snapdragon 8 Gen 2 (sm8550) chipsets, if only we can get a flagship from today in the best possible software package which is where i won't settle for anything less than LineageOS. Not in any case, no matter how good the stock ROM is - it's about freedom, control, privacy & security - where in LOS everything is opensource and auditable (as opposed to OEM.. you don't know what may be running and how secure it is). Not to speak of even faster security patch levels than from any vendor. I also believe you won't feel the true power of your high end hardware until you're running an OS that's practically as clean as AOSP, such as LOS. It's like people dont know any better, and that raw performance (flagships..) offsets your perception anyways.
Since this topic, i've set my gaze on a new device with the same chipset (sm8550) as the Galaxy S23 range - the Motorola Edge 40 Pro, a flagship.. even if chaptsand (as per https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/lineageos-progress.4582781/) can pull it off for Galaxy, i found a way to kickstart the effort for Moto Edge 40 Pro as well, by sponsoring it and bringing a few devs together. If you're interested in that effort, read some comments before and after this one: https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...-motorola-edge-30-dubai.4536169/post-88509185, and it still has to be moved into its own topic. But if that gets accomplished and for Galaxy it doesn't turn out well, at least ill have something to recommend to anyone that wants LineageOS on a latest tech flagship. For those that think like me, and won't ever settle for less.
mxz55 said:
Since this topic, i've set my gaze on a new device with the same chipset (sm8550) as the Galaxy S23 range - the Motorola Edge 40 Pro, a flagship.. even if chaptsand (as per https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/lineageos-progress.4582781/) can pull it off for Galaxy, i found a way to kickstart the effort for Moto Edge 40 Pro as well, by sponsoring it and bringing a few devs together. If you're interested in that effort, read some comments before and after this one: https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...-motorola-edge-30-dubai.4536169/post-88509185, and it still has to be moved into its own topic. But if that gets accomplished and for Galaxy it doesn't turn out well, at least ill have something to recommend to anyone that wants LineageOS on a latest tech flagship. For those that think like me, and won't ever settle for less.
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thanks ! very interesting and generous from you !!
but I must say I am more interested in a hardware with a "flater" screen than the Edge 40 Pro.
an inconvenience with the S23 is that you are losing OTA with stock rom if you root it ( https://www.xda-developers.com/how-to-unlock-bootloader-root-magisk-samsung-galaxy-s23/ )
so, unless there is some AOSP rom with updates for the S23, it seems safer to me to go for the Xiaomi 13 (after I had a look at this guide : https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...bootloader-root-flash-twrp-flash-rom.4538433/ ) ... or maybe I ll go for the Poco F5 pro 12/256 as it should start with an early bird price of 499E tomorrow, although it s an SD 8+ gen 1 instead of an SD 8 gen 2 (oh it will be 479E with the 20E coupon on https://ams.event.mi.com/fr/poco-f5-series-product-launch ) ...
good luck !