Hi, I got the LG v30 yesterday from T-Mobile and today i noticed that the all around the screen there is light bleed . Does anyone else have it. Check in the dim room.
Here is the youtube link for the video i did
You probably going to need to give us your definition of light bleed because I'm not seeing light bleed. I'm seeing the screen and reflections off of the metal trim.
CHH2 said:
You probably going to need to give us your definition of light bleed because I'm not seeing light bleed. I'm seeing the screen and reflections off of the metal trim.
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Thats not a reflection the light bleeds all around the side es of the screen it between the screen and the metal.
I have it but the phone is so thin, I kind of expected it. It doesn't take away from the device in any way for me.
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I got my phone to do it finally. I had to shut off all the lights and turn the brightness up way beyond the point I'd ever actually use it at in such a situation. It's not really light bleed per se. The screen extends further and is masked to make the aspect ratio but the mask isn't taken as far out as they could have. Or they might have been able to. I'd have to go back and look at the tear down to see what's going on.
In my case the light bleed is just on the right hand side of the screen. I made a video of it here:
https://youtu.be/Q_XXkZnC-9Y
It's visible in any situation with low light. Even in a restaurant at night.
isroisro said:
In my case the light bleed is just on the right hand side of the screen. I made a video of it here:
https://youtu.be/Q_XXkZnC-9Y
It's visible in any situation with low light. Even in a restaurant at night.
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How high is your screen brightness ?
put on a case, problem solved.
I have it as well. I would call it clouding not bleed though. It's not a bright light leak on the edges of the screen. It's light clouding through out the screen on black when it's black.
Well I have it too. The glass of the screen have little gap between frame on the left side.
Got it on both sides, but not bothered as I haven't noticed it until just now. It's only visible when viewing the device from the back/sides at angles damn near approaching 90°. Not sure about the rest of you, but I don't view my screen from such angles, so for me it's a non-issue. I think it actually looks kinda cool when you look at it when scrolling through a vertical app drawer... feel like I'm in a Mass Effect elevator or something.
Dizzyrul3z said:
Well I have it too. The glass of the screen have little gap between frame on the left side.
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IP68 rating ?
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wireeater said:
I have it as well. I would call it clouding not bleed though. It's not a bright light leak on the edges of the screen. It's light clouding through out the screen on black when it's black.
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The term clouding got me searching and i found this
The second reply is very informative just in general
It depends on how visible they are with normal vision. Your camera is significantly overexposing the problem (unless your pointer normally looks like the glaring sun, in which case you have bigger problems). The CFG70's I've had looked bad with the phone camera I had at the time I took the pictures. I don't trust camera shots to represent what the screen looks like in reality unless taken by a credible reviewer anymore. Also, you should use a solid black image without a super white pointer the screen is illuminating to give a more correct representation of the back light bleed; the three spots around the pointer look far worse than the rest of the screen, and that could be the fault of the pointer.
Very probably you have the brightness at max on standard response. These monitors are far brighter at max than many other monitors out there.
400+ cd/m^2 is very bright and most people who calibrate their displays turn them down to around 120 cd/m^2 to make them easier on the eyes. I don't agree with doing this on a media screen though as the brightness helps the image a lot in movies and games. Turn the brightness down to something reasonable and most of your problem will probably go away if that is an acceptable solution to you. Also strobing should reduce the brightness and the problem as well if you're willing to live with it on.
I feel for people who can't just return to the vendor. I would try to make it tolerable with some of the above efforts, and if that's the only problem you have with the screen, I'd probably keep it. If you can see the bleed with the naked eye without a camera while watching movies or playing games, I'd consider returning it, but understand that every CFG70 I've had looked similar when overexposed on a phone camera.
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Camera pointed at a black screen IS going to over expose. That is normal. Photos must be adjusted so it looks as you see it
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IP68 rating ?
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Well, good idea. Im gonna try if fail I will give it back for a warranty.
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Camera pointed at a black screen IS going to over expose. That is normal. Photos must be adjusted so it looks as you see it
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I thought this was common sense
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Well, good idea. Im gonna try if fail I will give it back for a warranty.
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IF it doesn't fail IP68, put a case on it. Problem solved. You won't see the so-called light bleed.
You want case on this anyway to protect the glass back.
I recommend this one:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=74857344&postcount=191
but the first post in that thread has links to very inexpensive cases that will work.
I bought about a dozen case, in all price ranges, and like the Tudia the best.
The gap won't be an issue for the water and dust rating. It looks like it is just the mask they put behind the glass didn't go all the way to the frame while the screen extends further than what should be visible.
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The term clouding got me searching and i found this
The second reply is very informative just in general
Camera pointed at a black screen IS going to over expose. That is normal. Photos must be adjusted so it looks as you see it
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ChazzMatt said:
IF it doesn't fail IP68, put a case on it. Problem solved. You won't see the so-called light bleed.
You want case on this anyway to protect the glass back.
I recommend this one:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=74857344&postcount=191
but the first post in that thread has links to very inexpensive cases that will work.
I bought about a dozen case, in all price ranges, and like the Tudia the best.
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Thanks mate! I bought tempered glass with black frames that arrives today.
The case I use on my old Oneplus X is IMAK Cowboy. I love the sandstone feel and good grip. Im gonna buy imak defenitly
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Well, good idea. Im gonna try if fail I will give it back for a warranty.
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What i wanted to say is there cannot be a gap if the v30 has an ip68 rating. No way for water to enter
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adsubzero said:
I thought this was common sense
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Hah, most people look at the photo and go ZOMG!
adjusting exposure to match the way it appears is necessary provided whatever camera used allows for it
This can be quite tricky to do
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What i wanted to say is there cannot be a gap if the v30 has an ip68 rating. No way for water to enter
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Right. There's no real gap. It's just the black masking of the curved glass edge is not dark enough sometimes.
I always use a case on my phone, so I don't even bother standing in the dark trying to find alleged "light bleed". That's not how I use a phone (without a case), so no use trying to find an issue that has no real world substance for me.
(IF there is a gap, and it fails IP68, then of course return it under warranty.)
ChazzMatt said:
IF it doesn't fail IP68, put a case on it. Problem solved. You won't see the so-called light bleed.
You want case on this anyway to protect the glass back.
I recommend this one:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=74857344&postcount=191
but the first post in that thread has links to very inexpensive cases that will work.
I bought about a dozen case, in all price ranges, and like the Tudia the best.
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Hey folks.
I don't think it's a problem It's not actually a gap between glass and phone frame. It's not even actually a leak.
In fact glass has it's thickness, and edge of the glass pane is exposed over the frame. In this conditions glass starts to behave similarly to optic fiber. So part of the light emitted by the display is not let through the glass and starts to bounce between glass edges (inside the glass pane), to eventually become visible on the edge of the screen. If You look closely it's uniform thickness light, and visible in parts where on the edge of screen is something bright with bright color.
So be not afraid, nothing bad is happening here
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It seems that there is a lot of variance between the display quality between different SGS2 units. I myself was perfectly happy with mine until the screen had to be replaced by the Samsung warranty service. The new display wasn't half as bright as the one before and the light sensor coupled with a dim display makes it even worse. I've done some comparison between different units and found that almost all of them had different quality displays - many way too dark.
I made a photo comparison between our own to SGS2s using an original device (bought in early July) as a reference as its display performance is similar to the one I used to have in mine before the replacement.
I would be happy to hear if you have noticed similar differences with you own or your friends units just to get sense of how common the issue is.
The full story below!
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I’ve been a pretty happy owner of a Samsung Galaxy SII since April. I’ve especially been pleased with the excellent display that is able to deliver true blacks while being one of the brightest screens out there.
Imagine my horror then when the display broke. It looked like something was leaking inside it. It started as a minor pink hue in the edge of the screen and in a couple days had turned into a bruise covering one fourth of the screen. All the pixels seemed to work but there was a shadow with distinct edges clouding the picture.
The issue
Luckily the warranty covered this and the service point returned my phone with a note: “Display module replaced“. Little did I know that not all Super Amoled+ screens are created equal. After a minute of using the serviced device I noticed that the screen was somehow dark – noticeably darker than before. I checked all the settings – everything was set up the way it had been before with the auto-brightness set on. It just wasn’t the screen I had come to know. We have two units of the SGS2 at home and so I compared the serviced one with the other original unit. The display in the original (reference) unit was noticeably brighter than mine. The difference was even more apparent in the dark shades – where the reference display separated several different shades of dark grays mine only displayed black. The original screen on the reference device delivered the same quality as my ‘pre-serviced’ unit. Then I turned off the auto-brightness on both devices and cranked up the brightness to the max. Again the serviced unit was visibly dim compared to the reference unit. Even the color space between the devices are different – the original quite natural and a tad warm and the serviced one distinctly cool with whites tilted towards blue.
Next I borrowed a couple of other S2′s from colleagues at the office and it turned out their devices were just as dim as my serviced one – one even dimmer! I guess this explains why some reviewers and users have judged the display on the SGS2 to be too dark – something that I always thought to be a silly complaint. It seems that the display quality between devices varies greatly. I’m currently expecting a reply from my service point as to what I should do with my ‘faulty’ screen – I’ll let you know how this pans out.
I tried taking photos with the reference unit and the serviced unit side-by-side. If you think the differences are small and to complain is silly you should know that the real life effect is that taking photos and watching videos is now a pain because every shadow is just a solid black area and when you go into a dark room the auto-brightness drops the brightness way too low. So if you own a Samsung Galaxy s2 with a dark screen – you are one of the unlucky ones.
Below are the comparison shots. If you suspect you have one of the dark screens feel free to leave a comment below.
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you joined this site specifically to link to your own one it seems?
skimminstones said:
you joined this site specifically to link to your own one it seems?
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The forum won't let me add photos because I've just registered - only way to show them for now is to direct people to the site. Or about six posts from now I guess I will be allowed to post pictures as well.
I will add the whole text in a moment.
either way, it seems you joined specifically to talk about your site. Seems a bit trollish to me
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you joined this site specifically to link to your own one it seems?
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Happy now? Any comments on the real topic of this thread?
no not really
Yeah i'm also one of the unlucky ones with the dark screen. What makes it worse is the blue tinge when you tilt the screen slightly. Another problem, my screen keeps going bright for about 3 to 4 secs about every 45 seconds and then goes dull again. Nothing to do with auto brightness by the way because i turned it off.
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Yeah I've noticed the hue shift when tilting the display as well. Also on gray and white surfaces when the screen dims the color is not smooth but looks rather like there is some dirt under the glass. Like it's a whole different type of display than the one in our other SGS2.
I experienced the same situation. I had to replace the screen on the S2 bought back in may due to nasty scratches. The screen was otherwise really top notch with no visible defects.
The one they replaced with is much dimmer and actually has a higher contrast which leads to some color burn. There are also stripes from top to bottom when I pull down the top bar. And as if that was not enough, the picture is grainy. As you pointed out it feels as a totally different display.
I am not going to swap it since I managed to lower the contrast to an acceptable level but it's quite disappointing regardless.
This could be samsungs way of trying to slow down the screen burning?
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I still haven't bought an S2 yet but this is a bit of a concern. I'd like to hear from more people with a newer phone, do they have the same screen issues as mentioned above.
If you come from HTC to Samsung, you're certainly going to notice the difference. At least in my case, the HTC had better whites on screen and no blue tinge when tilting screen.
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I frequently flash between the XW and XX series of ROMs and notice that on some roms, the screen is darker and on others it is brighter. This is when it is being tested at 100% brightness and display setting set to normal.
If i knew for sure that flashing my phone with the correct ROM would make my screen brighter, i would do it in a flash.
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Same problem with the white sgs2 I bought few days ago. Really disappointing.
Seifer1975 said:
Same problem with the white sgs2 I bought few days ago. Really disappointing.
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Would you still recommend the S2 with the screen as it is on yours, or has it spoilt a good phone?
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Would you still recommend the S2 with the screen as it is on yours, or has it spoilt a good phone?
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I would still recommend the phone, but you will have to use manual brightness instead.
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For those with the dim screen, if you are adventurous enough, you can follow the instructions here forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1235212&highlight=brightness to crank up the brightness of your phone so that you can use the auto brightness.
I have a new white sgs2 and this is the first Android phone I have had where the auto brightness on all roms Samsung or cm7 is totally useless. I use manual now and it looks good at around 1 3rd brightness so heavens knows how low the auto brightness is setting it!
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Yeah I've noticed the hue shift when tilting the display as well. Also on gray and white surfaces when the screen dims the color is not smooth but looks rather like there is some dirt under the glass. Like it's a whole different type of display than the one in our other SGS2.
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I have the same problem, dirt under glass. The strange thing is, I got a replacement, the same problem. When you lower the brightness, there is small dark area, like dust. Two devices the same shop, the same problem. I start wondering it is the production quality Samsung can get
krico said:
If i knew for sure that flashing my phone with the correct ROM would make my screen brighter, i would do it in a flash.
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I have talked about this several times and even sent private messages to developers but all ignored it.
Anyway, try flashing the official kernal of KE2 and you will see the difference.
The collors and screen brightness will change without any effect what so ever to the device performance.
Screen Adjuster is another way to correct this, it is a free program in the market which will do the job for you .
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I still haven't bought an S2 yet but this is a bit of a concern. I'd like to hear from more people with a newer phone, do they have the same screen issues as mentioned above.
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HTC is no better, I had a Sensation before and it had the same problems, They use two different screen types and many complains about it in the Sensation forum.
Some time ago I noticed that, in some very special situations, like under direct and strong artificial/sun light and a particular angle, I'm able to see a couple of small, very faint spots, kinda similar to those left by dried moisture (like a drop of water) underneath the screen. At first I though it was my bad for putting on a wet screen protector, but just the other day I had a look at the device of a friend of mine (no protector wahtsoever), and looking closely I found similar spots, just not two but a single and bigger one. This got me a bit puzzled, so I decided to take a look at a third device, this time a demo unit in a shop, and guess what? Also that one had a similar mark right in the middle of the screen.
Now, not that this bothers me much, since you can't actually see it unless you really try (I can't even catch it with a camera), but I'd love to know from you guys if this is a common "flaw" or I just happened to grab a "flawed" handful of devices...
Yup, I have these dark patches. You can see them sometimes if you look at a particular angle when the phone is booting up. I can't see them any other time though
I can see dark patches when the screen is dimmed, especially at night, I can't see it any other times, Nokia returned it to me because they couldn't see it. So they asked to send it in again, it took them ten days to just flash a ROM....I was pissed as it is.
When the Display is off I can sometimes see some "blacker" areas on the screen. According to Nokia These are splices where the glass is somehow glued to the display.
Thank you guys, at least I feel a little better about it now...anyway it still puzzles me how this is the first device I own in years with this kind of issue, and I really had many, both resistive and capacitive, with or without gorilla and even made of plastic. I mean this isn't really a flaw, but knowing it's there annoys me. Damn, maybe I should really just stop being so OCD with my devices, it hurts
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Thank you guys, at least I feel a little better about it now...anyway it still puzzles me how this is the first device I own in years with this kind of issue, and I really had many, both resistive and capacitive, with or without gorilla and even made of plastic. I mean this isn't really a flaw, but knowing it's there annoys me. Damn, maybe I should really just stop being so OCD with my devices, it hurts
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I still would class it as a fault, it makes my eyes burn.
Are you speaking about the spots which are visible in the dark if the screen is black?
I saw them when I did my screen black in diagnostics app - lcd test.
So I took a picture of "black" screen with long exposure (iso 400, 30 seconds exposure) and show it in nokia care service. Week after I got new display
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Are you speaking about the spots which are visible in the dark if the screen is black?
I saw them when I did my screen black in diagnostics app - lcd test.
So I took a picture of "black" screen with long exposure (iso 400, 30 seconds exposure) and show it in nokia care service. Week after I got new display
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Actually those aren't really "spots", it's some sort of light leak that all amoled devices have when displaying plain black: even if all the leds are supposed to be off there's still some electricity going through them. I had that on all of my amoled devices, on my Desire, on my SGS2 and on my Omnia W as well, it doesn't look that great but it's fine I guess. Weird that you still managed to get the screen replaced, maybe your unit actually had some excessive light leak.
Here I'm talking about a different thing, given that you have them you should be able to see those spots I described even with the device completely off if you keep it under a strong light and at the right angle.
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Actually those aren't really "spots", it's some sort of light leak that all amoled devices have when displaying plain black: even if all the leds are supposed to be off there's still some electricity going through them. I had that on all of my amoled devices, on my Desire, on my SGS2 and on my Omnia W as well, it doesn't look that great but it's fine I guess. Weird that you still managed to get the screen replaced, maybe your unit actually had some excessive light leak.
Here I'm talking about a different thing, given that you have them you should be able to see those spots I described even with the device completely off if you keep it under a strong light and at the right angle.
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Can't reproduce that. I look closely but see nothing special.
Though, as Russian proverb says - the less you know the stronger you sleep
Here is a picture of screen with the spots I was posting about.
So, if anyone have scratched screen as I had, it is a good reason to get repair
PS note that picture was taken with long exposure. Actually my eyes need to get used to darkness to see glow.
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Can't reproduce that. I look closely but see nothing special.
Though, as Russian proverb says - the less you know the stronger you sleep
Here is a picture of screen with the spots I was posting about.
So, if anyone have scratched screen as I had, it is a good reason to get repair
PS note that picture was taken with long exposure. Actually my eyes need to get used to darkness to see glow.
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Yeah that's it, the good old light leak
Anyway the picture you took being overexposed gives the impression of a huge issue, so I guess they replaced the screen right after looking at that, even tho in normal darkness conditions it's definitely not so annoying. Good for you that you managed to get it replaced anyway
lol a 30 second exposure will bring out the worst of the display. I can understand they replaced it after showing that image that sort of tricks them because it will never be even close to that visible to the naked eye.
Completely normal for AMOLED displays.
So I just picked up the DNA today. Loving it! However, I just noticed that I'm seeing light bleed through on the bottom, just below the capacitive buttons when they're lit up. Anyone have this?? Really disliking this!
Yeah. Pretty common.
It is really easy to fix though and you can do it yourself. Unless you want to keep exchanging them and hoping you find one, this would be a better way.
Go to your local auto parts store and pick up this:
http://www.apmengineparts.com/82180.html?productid=82180&channelid=FROOG
Get the smallest one you can because you are only using a bit.
Take a toothpick and apply it to the bottom of the glass where it meets the plastic. Try to push it into the crack, if possible. Let it sit for a few seconds and then take a paper towel and wipe it off along the crack. DON'T get it into the usb port!
Let it dry for a few hours and you are good as gold. It also has the bonus of increasing water resistance and keeping dust out.
Mine didn't have that at all. I guess I got lucky. I do have a small spot almost dead center on the screen that looks like a bluish smudge though. You can only notice it on a white background. It's musky annoying but faint enough to live with.
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dmbfan13 said:
So I just picked up the DNA today. Loving it! However, I just noticed that I'm seeing light bleed through on the bottom, just below the capacitive buttons when they're lit up. Anyone have this?? Really disliking this!
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Mine does, I hate too, at least I'm not the only one with it. Still debating if I should exchange it or not....
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I have two spots on the botton too...never had this issue with LED screens. How likely is it not to have the light bleeds? If this is indeed a common problem for the DNA, I won't bother exchanging mine
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I have two spots on the botton too...never had this issue with LED screens. How likely is it not to have the light bleeds? If this is indeed a common problem for the DNA, I won't bother exchanging mine
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Common on Thunderbolt too. Never had Rezound to check.
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Common on Thunderbolt too. Never had Rezound to check.
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Hmm I guess it isn't something to be concerned about then.
I checked mine again right now in the office restroom with lights off and the phone screening an entirely black image; it does not have any light leakages at its full brightness, but there are two centered light spots triggered by the capacitive buttons that are only visible at the lowest brightness level.
Therefore presumably, turning off the capacitive button lights will eliminate the seemingly light leakages, as they do not seem to be defects caused by the LCD panel itself. But if such a leakage is glowed anywhere else but about the two centered areas just above the capacitive buttons, such as any corners or left/right/upper edges, then it would indeed be a sign of a defective unit.
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Hmm I guess it isn't something to be concerned about then.
I checked mine again right now in the office restroom with lights off and the phone screening an entirely black image; it does not have any light leakages at its full brightness, but there are two centered light spots triggered by the capacitive buttons that are only visible at the lowest brightness level.
Therefore presumably, turning off the capacitive button lights will eliminate the seemingly light leakages, as they do not seem to be defects caused by the LCD panel itself. But if such a leakage is glowed anywhere else but about the two centered areas just above the capacitive buttons, such as any corners or left/right/upper edges, then it would indeed be a sign of a defective unit.
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I sealed mine to be safe.
Well in case nobody noticed when the lights are on and you are in a dark room and you tilt the top of the device away from you, when you get to a certain angle you can actually see the light from the buttons because of how the glass is curved. This will appear on every DNA because of the glass. so if you have light coming from BELOW the buttons make sure its not this that you are seeing.
I only have light bleeding through at a certain angle. I may pick up some of that stuff though.
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Well in case nobody noticed when the lights are on and you are in a dark room and you tilt the top of the device away from you, when you get to a certain angle you can actually see the light from the buttons because of how the glass is curved. This will appear on every DNA because of the glass. so if you have light coming from BELOW the buttons make sure its not this that you are seeing.
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In my case, its coming from the seam between the curved glass and the trim.
Mine too, I can see it from any angle. There's two spots where it bleeds, the gaps between the captive buttons
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Well, at least I'm not the only one. Might just try to ignore it...we'll see how that goes...
Yeah I'm still torn about what to do. Kinda want to relock/ruu and exhange but what if the new one has something different wrong with it. This one works great, the bleeding is just visual and only in a very dark room so might just do what adryn did and seal it with some gasket maker
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I just sealed mine. Took 5 minutes tops, and only because I was being precise.
No more light bleed and increased resistance to dust and water.
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Well in case nobody noticed when the lights are on and you are in a dark room and you tilt the top of the device away from you, when you get to a certain angle you can actually see the light from the buttons because of how the glass is curved. This will appear on every DNA because of the glass. so if you have light coming from BELOW the buttons make sure its not this that you are seeing.
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You think that's really what they're seeing? You can't physically stop that without changing the shape of the glass. i prefer the continuous curve over a slight refraction you can't ever see.
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You think that's really what they're seeing? You can't physically stop that without changing the shape of the glass. i prefer the continuous curve over a slight refraction you can't ever see.
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I'm certain (in my case) that its the glass and the trim.
Nothing a little black silicone doesn't fix. The shape of the glass is not the problem. The problem lies near the capcitive keys where the glass meets the glossy trim. They are two different pieces.
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You think that's really what they're seeing? You can't physically stop that without changing the shape of the glass. i prefer the continuous curve over a slight refraction you can't ever see.
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I was just pointing it out just in case... doesn't hurt
i just wonder why the **** some N10s has no lightbleed and others has it all over the screen.
WHY?
thats the big question.
has anyone opend their devices and found something that differ from others or found some loose/to tightend screws?
also i wonder why it is on some devices that the top half is brighter than the bottom screen?.
also i wonder why some people at samsung quality check havnt got fired yet?
its about time they do something.
I suggest we create a thread "Post photos of your Nexus 10 showing a black screen at XX% brightness". That would be a "wall of shame" to send to Google/Samsung. Not sure what the XX would be. 75%? 100%?
Doesn't really matter if its 75 or 100. The camera will auto expose and the images and exposure for every different picture will be different.
I dont care about light bleed, its minimal and I dont see on normal conditions.
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i just wonder why the **** some N10s has no lightbleed and others has it all over the screen.
WHY?
thats the big question.
has anyone opend their devices and found something that differ from others or found some loose/to tightend screws?
also i wonder why it is on some devices that the top half is brighter than the bottom screen?.
also i wonder why some people at samsung quality check havnt got fired yet?
its about time they do something.
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The only time I notice light bleed is when I boot up, and and I'm like wtf? I have then I quickly forget about it until I see a post on the forums about it.
Yeah you only notice it on screens with black background
Over the last few years I have haunted the Asus Transformer (through several versions) and now the Nexus tablet forums and ALL tablet products have various levels of light bleed which vary even between devices made on the same assembly line. It is like an echo that never dies.
If your device cannot be used due to excessive light bleed then RMA or sell it. If you are expecting no light bleed then, at this time, with this screen technology, tablets are not for you. From what I have read it does not matter which manufacturer, tablets have lightbleed.
This may sound harsh but see for yourself by reading other Tablet forums. You will read similar to identical complaints. Some perceived and some real (ASUS Transformer TF201 WiFi strength):
> Lightbleed
> WiFi poor signal strength to repeated dropped connections
> Poor build quality
> OTA releases that break something
> Poor video playback
> Interface stutter
> Reboots, poor battery life ... etc
I am not saying that you should put up with a poor product more that you should vote with your wallet and your consumer rights like RMAing a defective device.
The thing is about the N10, people might be able to deal with it if it was just some bright spots, but the thing that kills me is that they're bright yellow spots which can easily be seen in the bottom right menu bar thing at all times. This is by far the worst tablet I've ever seen in terms of lightbleed.
I never use my tablet completely in the dark at 100% brightness. I saw the light bleed when I tested it after reading these posts but then when i turn the brightness back down to 50% its gone. I don't even notice it in the dark parts of movies. I understand that there are probably some worse cases than mine, but sometimes I think people are too picky.
Shane_pcs said:
I never use my tablet completely in the dark at 100% brightness. I saw the light bleed when I tested it after reading these posts but then when i turn the brightness back down to 50% its gone. I don't even notice it in the dark parts of movies. I understand that there are probably some worse cases than mine, but sometimes I think people are too picky.
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I am not sure if it's a matter of being too picky. I think what kills is that the lightbleed on this table is yellow. If it was white I would tolerate it better.
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Techie2012 said:
I am not sure if it's a matter of being too picky. I think what kills is that the lightbleed on this table is yellow. If it was white I would tolerate it better.
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My minor light bleed is pure white.
I don't have any issues with lightbleed on my N10. Is it there an I don't notice it? That may be the case, I guess I don't stare at a black screen and have unrealistic expectations... Great tablet and would recommend it to anyone!
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i just wonder why the **** some N10s has no lightbleed and others has it all over the screen.
WHY?
thats the big question.
has anyone opend their devices and found something that differ from others or found some loose/to tightend screws?
also i wonder why it is on some devices that the top half is brighter than the bottom screen?.
also i wonder why some people at samsung quality check havnt got fired yet?
its about time they do something.
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You must not understand manufacturing at all
I opened my N10, the screen is sealed with the front glass inside a plastic frame. The only screws inside are on a metal frame that holds th battery in place, which have no effect on the extent of lightbleed.
With tablets nowadays even with the Asus (which I've tried myself), the screen is attached to the touch panel (digitizer) via strong double sided tape. The screen is really thin so any flex during installation will cause it to be uneven causing some of the light bleed. You can probably remedy it by using a blow dryer or heat gun in low setting to be able to lift up the screen from the touch panel where you have light bleed and even it back down. You have to be careful not to bend the screen too much or it will crack. Again this will probably be a very thin screen (about 2-3mm) and fragile screen. IMO dont even try it and just get it exchanged and hope you get a better one.
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The screen is fused to the digitiser, ie no double sided tape, and it is impossible to separate screen and digigiser
Chluz said:
The screen is fused to the digitiser, ie no double sided tape, and it is impossible to separate screen and digigiser
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Not sure youre right. I work for an ATM company and we have touchscreen machines and the touchpanel is sandwiched in between the LCD and front glass. But on tablets the screen is not fused but they use a double sided tape. Whats probably fused is the gorilla glass and the digitizer. Post edited
Also I know this because I've completely removed a dead screen from an asus prime before. Once you have both separated the glass has a thin film (digitizer) on it and on the bottom of the film is a ribbon cable. The screen itself has nothing on the front but a thin 1/4 foam tape around it.
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Not sure youre right. I work for an ATM company and we have touchscreen machines and the touchpanel is sandwiched in between the LCD and front glass. But on tablets the screen is not fused but they use a double sided tape. Whats probably fused is the gorilla glass and the digitizer. Post edited
Also I know this because I've completely removed a dead screen from an asus prime before. Once you have both separated the glass has a thin film (digitizer) on it and on the bottom of the film is a ribbon cable. The screen itself has nothing on the front but a thin 1/4 foam tape around it.
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I might have misread your post, but I was talking about the nexus 10, Sorry for the confusion
It used to be that there was a piece of double sided sticky tape (like I have on my old tab) between digitiser/ protective glass and LCD screen. For the nexus 10 howver,this website says its all fused together
"Everything else seems to come out just as easily, according to the write-up. But the Nexus 10 display and digitizer are fused together, so there's no chance of separating the two. " http://crave.cnet.co.uk/laptops/google-nexus-10-rated-extremely-repairable-after-teardown-50009785/
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If you are expecting no light bleed then, at this time, with this screen technology, tablets are not for you.
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This is a ridiculous statement ..there are plenty of tablets without light bleed and everyone should expect to not have light bleed. Now the bleed I'm talking about are the blotchy spot types where there is glow coming from one area that extends out from one/multiple areas. Which the N10 has very bad blotches. Totally unacceptable. Slight even "leak" around the edges is one thing but a yellow blob coming out of a corner when you watch videos is ridiculous.
My HP Touchpad made my 2 N10s look like crap in regards to light bleed. Yeah, a touchpad.
I hope they get it right soon... prob will give it another go in a month at a physical store if I hear good things
https://www.dropbox.com/sc/w3aflekki0thqhj/AABqSYnVucDo-QVQeqYJeb2Ba
Anyone have this wonderful issue? I used my note 8 in the exact manner and no issues. No case on the s9+ or anything that could cause this besides a possible hardware issue or I received a lemon. Please check out your camera's and let me know plz. I hope it's just my phone
Yes! Under certain angels it's unbearable. Even had to check if I left some of the film on there, nope..
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Yes! Under certain angels it's unbearable. Even had to check if I left some of the film on there, nope..
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Thanks for the response. I went back outside to take more pics and I noticed the camera module was very reflective. It was like i was reflecting light with a little mirror. I grabbed my note 8 to see how that module's reflected light. At first i barely saw the reflection. Then i had to really put the phone at a major angle to get a brighter reflection. I think the camera module's aren't positioned correctly or designed correctly to avoid recieving the sun's rays in an improper way which then produces these crazy sun rays in the pics. My pics were taken mid day so the sun was kinda just past it's peak height. I took more pics later on with the sun lower and couldn't recreate the crazy flare. This is a deal breaker for me. Do you plan on keeping yours? I called Samsung and they weren't any help. They told me to return the phone and order another if I wanted.. this sucks
Damn. That's some crazy lens flare. I'm heading to Hawaii next week, and I'll be taking my S9+ (if it shows up on time). I hope the lens flare isn't going to ruin all my pics.
My Note 8 does it at certain angles, I just use my hand as a lens hood on the side that the sun is coming from.
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Damn. That's some crazy lens flare. I'm heading to Hawaii next week, and I'll be taking my S9+ (if it shows up on time). I hope the lens flare isn't going to ruin all my pics.
My Note 8 does it at certain angles, I just use my hand as a lens hood on the side that the sun is coming from.
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Yeah, it's bad. Just communicated with Samsung Support on Twitter and they blamed the dual aperture. Suggested I try different angles and tap to focus. Smh. Guess enough people will have to complain before they realize there's an issue.
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Yeah, it's bad. Just communicate with Samsung Support on Twitter and they blamed the dual aperture. Suggested I try different angles and tap to focus. Smh. Guess enough people will have to complain before they realize there's an issue.
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lol Well, if it is the dual aperture, it's a design/manufacturer flaw.
They basically just fed you the "You're holding it wrong" Apple reply, lol.
Thought it was a rainbow. How did you get it to show? As none of my pics have that but it hasn't been sunny here
Yeah the 1st photo I took outside had lens flare. I'll deal. I got the phone for the stereo speakers and speed. Not the camera.
While it may not eliminate all of it, you do have something on the outer glass covering the lens. It needs to be cleaned with a lens pen. That's what's causing those little o shaped artifacts. Because of the tiny aperture and very wide (F 1.5), these objective element must be kept optically clean as if it were a laser optic! That's exceedingly difficult since its exposed. My suggestion is to purchase a lens pen and keep it with you if the best quality pictures are important. One can really see this at night when capturing dark scenes with bright pinpoint sources such as headlamps and streetlights, etc.
My biggest issue with camera phones (they all have it!) is the internal reflections producing ghost images. It's really apparent at events (i.e. concerts) with multiple bright points of light. Bathes the image in little blue-green dots everywhere.
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Thought it was a rainbow. How did you get it to show? As none of my pics have that but it hasn't been sunny here
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It was all from the sun. I had issues with my pics no matter which way I stood.
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Yeah the 1st photo I took outside had lens flare. I'll deal. I got the phone for the stereo speakers and speed. Not the camera.
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Was the flare similar to mine?
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While it may not eliminate all of it, you do have something on the outer glass covering the lens. It needs to be cleaned with a lens pen. That's what's causing those little o shaped artifacts. Because of the tiny aperture and very wide (F 1.5), these objective element must be kept optically clean as if it were a laser optic! That's exceedingly difficult since its exposed. My suggestion is to purchase a lens pen and keep it with you if the best quality pictures are important. One can really see this at night when capturing dark scenes with bright pinpoint sources such as headlamps and streetlights, etc.
My biggest issue with camera phones (they all have it!) is the internal reflections producing ghost images. It's really apparent at events (i.e. concerts) with multiple bright points of light. Bathes the image in little blue-green dots everywhere.
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The pic with the circled artifacts was the first pic I took. The lens was clean toothe best of my knowledge. The following pics didn't have and of those artifacts pop up. Nevertheless, I'm concerned that there is a design flaw. I've owned many phones and have never had such an issue with taking pics with the sun. I was tweeting Samsung support and said the light penetrating into the lens was the reason for the terrible pics. Idk.. the phone is very new so we'll see how many do or don't come forward with this issue. All I know is the afternoon sun was just at the right height to cause the angle that the camera didn't agree with.
It's possible as with wider apertures and very bright out of frame light sources striking the periphery of the aperture you will see this. This can't be avoided even with pro gear hence the use of bulky hoods.
The idea of a two step iris, even in its rudimentary form, is a new frontier for mobile devices and this could be a glaring limitation if not annoying. Just as when driving one uses a visor or their hand, you may have to improvise and provide some shading to limit these artifacts.
Used hand as a shield
Well, took some more pics and the results are terrible. I even had it in video. I used my hand as a shield and away went the lens flare. I even rotated the phone to were the modules were on the opposite side as I normally use the phone during picture and video taking. I think that made it worse. I'm just disgusted.
Another example of me shielding the sun.
Sorry but they were flipped during the upload process.
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droidrev71 said:
Was the flare similar to mine?
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I'll just share
Nothing yet for me, keeping my fingers crossed.
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I'll just share
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Thank you for sharing. The speakers and speed are great! I messed with the phone before it was released and thought the speakers were ok. When trying them when I recieved the phone i was very impressed. I take a ton of pics so I don't think I can tolerate this camera issue.
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Nothing yet for me, keeping my fingers crossed.
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Fingers crossed!