Being as that the phone is from the UK and that S2 doesn't exist on AT&T, can I purchase (new line) the non-smartphone unlimited data plan? Will it work properly (3g and all)? Also, do they have the means of finding out that i have a smartphone?
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Hello, did you end up doing the non smartphone plan for your s2 and did it work? I am interested in a s2 but need a new att account but with the unlimited data plan on AT&T.
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I can confirm this works. I currently use 15.00 unlimited data plan meant for regular cell phones. You can get unlimited text and web for 20.00, but I use google voice for texts, so I just had them block texts to save the five bucks. Just give them the meid of a dumb phone, and they can't tell the difference.
Thanks for the reply. Any advice on getting the new account setup? I was thinking about going into the store but perhaps calling is better if I need to provide a meid? Also are you doing everything on your s2 like streaming, emails, web browsing etc.?
I would also be very interested in learning the extent of the data-related activities you can do with the SGS 2.
I'm guessing video-calling is out of the question?
I am a AT&T prepaid user. Can I use the Atrix 4G in it without data plan? I only use Wi-Fi which is much faster.
The AT&T shop assistant man told me that I will not be able to use it if I do not open any date plan. If I am a prepaid user I can not use the phone; If I am a postpaid user I will be notified to add a data plan after I insert the SIM card into the Atrix 4G which is a smartphone.
Currently I also use a smartphone in AT&T network and does not commit any data plan. The phone works great. The shop assistant said the reason is that Atrix 4G is a AT&T phone and will be recognized by AT&T and force to open a data plan.
I do not know whether I should believe him for may be he is just trying to sell me more expensive plans. Is it technically possible to ban prepaid users? Is there any way to avoid this restriction? Since the Atrix 4G smartphone is bought in full price and unlocked, I do not owe AT&T anything. It works in T-Mobile, but does not works in AT&T prepaid, which seems very rediculous.
Yes, You can.
So the salesmen is only trying to threaten me with no real dangerous?
If you use a pre-paid SIM on an smartphone on AT&T, they will slap a data plan onto your account and you will be expected to pay it. I've seen it happen multiple times before.
Be careful when trying to break policy.
Well my girlfriend has an iPhone prepaid on ATT (my old one)with no data plan, so it is possible I would think for the Atrix to be used prepaid. But I really do not know.
Unfortunately, AT&T scans the IMEI numbers of all the phones on their networks occasionally and if they find any smartphones without data plans they add one without any warning. If you want to use a smartphone without Data, look at T-Mobile. They're the only one you can really do it on.
Sucks, and I think there should be some sort of law about that since there's no physical requirement of smartphones to have data, but thats how it is.
I've got an atrix, it uses 3g/4g so a data plan should work unlike the iphone. The Inspire is another phone where data plans are not available for pre paid. Salesmen love to threaten,intimidate and mislead.If you only want wifi you can turn off data in the data manager under settings.
So, they may only scan my IMEI and add data plan to it without my permission, and I can always make voice calls?
Since I am in "$2 Unlimited Daily Talk and Text" prepaid plan which is not qualified for any data plan, how can they add date plan to it?
Hey guys,
I just upgraded my wife's phone to a SGS2 but she doesn't like it cuz it's too big...so i'm testing it out on my SIM but I don't have any 3G data. Is it because I'm on the unlimited dumbphone data plan?
How old is your SIM card? Is it a 3G compatible SIM card..?
Yea, they'll also change your plan to a 2gig smart phone data plan when your line flags with a sgs2 IMEI.
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I was using the dumbphone dataplan for a while, even on my Captivate and two other smartphones. When I bought the GS2 off-contract in hopes of continuing with the plan, I wasn't able to get data. Eventually had to talk to Best Buy people (where I got the phone) and they talked about how SIMs were tied to IMEIs so I had to update the one on my account. In short, my reign of data terror ended and I got stuck with the 2gb plan
sims & imei are not tied together.
but IMEI's are tied to compatible and required features.
ngocdao said:
sims & imei are not tied together.
but IMEI's are tied to compatible and required features.
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Well I guess the sim isn't tied with it necessarily, but I guess my account had to be updated with the new device.
it's worth it to pay the extra $$ anyways man. provisions all the correct stuff for your specific phone.
Depends on what you need. This phone is great but are you willing to pay the data plan prices? I wish I had locked in the grandfathered unlimited data for $30 when I had the chance to...
my reign of data terror comes to an end too! ... oh well, guess i'll have to upgrade my data plan... thanks for the help guys
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Depends on what you need. This phone is great but are you willing to pay the data plan prices? I wish I had locked in the grandfathered unlimited data for $30 when I had the chance to...
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just saw your post, my wife's line has the $30 unlimited data plan and when i put her sim card in, i still don't get the data icon at all.
Or use straight talk unlimited everything for $45/month. All you have to do is add mvno apn...
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just saw your post, my wife's line has the $30 unlimited data plan and when i put her sim card in, i still don't get the data icon at all.
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If it's an iPhone unlimited data, you have to call AT&T and ask them to transfer it to the "Smartphone unlimited data"
The GS2 (and other HSPA+ phones) use a different APN for data than older devices. Your account has to be provisioned for it.
When I purchased my GS2 the people at the AT&T store swapped the 3G sim from my HTC Rhodium to a "4G" sim that would work on the HSPA+ network. This may be part of the issue. I don't know if there is a way to get a "4G" sim without a smartphone that needs it.
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When I purchased my GS2 the people at the AT&T store swapped the 3G sim from my HTC Rhodium to a "4G" sim that would work on the HSPA+ network. This may be part of the issue. I don't know if there is a way to get a "4G" sim without a smartphone that needs it.
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I am wondering if I need to upgrade my captivate sin card. I noticed best buy kept that old Sim but upgraded my account to hspa data. Still unlimited however I get the same data speeds as the captivate.
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I had the same problem after switching sim cards. the old one in my captivate didn't work. phone/text did, but no data. i went to at&t store and they gave me a new sim card free. the new sim cards work in the captivate, but not vice versa.
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I am wondering if I need to upgrade my captivate sin card. I noticed best buy kept that old Sim but upgraded my account to hspa data. Still unlimited however I get the same data speeds as the captivate.
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As stated above, it is your account not SIM card. My captivate SIM card does not work until I called AT&T to migrate my account into 4G data.
All 4G phones use a different APN/network. Your account must be provisioned for it in order to use that 4G data. Or you can manually create a 3G APN for your phone and use your phone for 3G only.
The APN(s) pre-programmed in the AT&T SGS2 route to their 4G servers. A non-4G data plan can't access them. If you add the Cingular APN settings you'll be able to get data access. I've been getting fake-4G speeds using the data for non-Smartphones plan since May. But, like someone else pointed out, AT&T recognizes the AT&T SGS2 as a 4G phone so you're very likely to get flagged.
Name: AT&T
APN: wap.cingular
Proxy: leave blank
Port: leave blank
Username:[email protected]
Password:CINGULAR1 (yes this is in CAPS)
Server: leave blank
MMSC: http://mmsc.cingular.com
MMS Proxy: wireless.cingular.com
MMS Port: 80
MCC:310
MNC:410
APN Type: Internet + MMS
The posts about your account having to be "provisioned" are entirely inaccurate. The only provisioning that has to be done is if you are moving form an iphone data plan. Otherwise, regardless of whether you are coming from a smartphone plan or a "dumbphone" plan, all you have to do is manually add the apn that was mentioned in the above post. There is absolutely no difference at the account level between any AT&T phones excluding the iphone. When someone says your account must be "provisioned" for a 4G phone, what they really mean is that AT&T can push the settings to your phone so that you do not have to manually enter them.
Take note: If you have been using a dumbphone plan, your data plan WILL be switched over to the 2GB smartphone plan as soon as you put your sim card in a 4g phone and enable data. I had used my $9.99 unlimited data plan on a Treo 650, Samsung Blackjack, HTC Fuze, HTC Tilt 2, and my Samsung Captivate with absolutely no issues, including tethering semi-frequently. However, within minutes of activating the data on my 4G infuse, my data plan was modified.
I am now on the $45 4GB plan with tethering. It was a good run, but my days of cheap data are over.
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The posts about your account having to be "provisioned" are entirely inaccurate. The only provisioning that has to be done is if you are moving form an iphone data plan. Otherwise, regardless of whether you are coming from a smartphone plan or a "dumbphone" plan, all you have to do is manually add the apn that was mentioned in the above post. There is absolutely no difference at the account level between any AT&T phones excluding the iphone. When someone says your account must be "provisioned" for a 4G phone, what they really mean is that AT&T can push the settings to your phone so that you do not have to manually enter them.
Take note: If you have been using a dumbphone plan, your data plan WILL be switched over to the 2GB smartphone plan as soon as you put your sim card in a 4g phone and enable data. I had used my $9.99 unlimited data plan on a Treo 650, Samsung Blackjack, HTC Fuze, HTC Tilt 2, and my Samsung Captivate with absolutely no issues, including tethering semi-frequently. However, within minutes of activating the data on my 4G infuse, my data plan was modified.
I am now on the $45 4GB plan with tethering. It was a good run, but my days of cheap data are over.
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You're contradicting yourself.
The phone out of box is already configured to use 4G network. However, if you put in a SIM card from your old 3G phones, it won't work. You have two choices: (1) call AT&T so that they provision your account to be able to connect to the 4G network using the out of box configuration or (2) manually enter above APN and stuck with 3G data.
The reason AT&T implemented this way is exactly to catch those of you with old non-smartphone data plans or old cheaper smartphone plans (anything < $30/mo). I have unlimited 3G data plan and bought GS2 out of contract and I have to call them to modify my account in order to get any data connectivity. I get to keep the unlimit data plan but it is now 4G provisioned without getting a new SIM card.
After 48 hours on Sprint with the SG3 L710, am returning Sprint phones after picking up new ATT SG3 L747's
I could not hear incoming calls and outgoing calls would drop calls (dozens!), wifi hotspot kept losing signal...etc...
ATT has a shared plan that applies to multiple phones (datacap 4 GB) and tethering is allowed on all phones,
unlimited messaging, unlimited call minutes
After reading several xda-threads, here are my assumptions
1. The only difference with the models (L710 vs L747) are the carrier frequencies/formats
2. There is no difference to the root methods in Sprint vs ATT and No Tripping Flash works correctly
If anything essentially wrong, please shout back.... heading to ATT store this morning when they open
International I9300 forum here .
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Hello, I have a SGSII, witch is on the AT&T unlimited non smartphone plan. I am currently getting" H+" to my phone. I believe the result of this is me doing some sim changing and a imei number changeing, My question is, Want to get a note 2, and keep my unlimited plan. I have all ready tested my sim in a friends galaxy note 2, and received 4g. I did receive a text from at&t changeing my plan do to the phone switch, but i called them and made them change back. If i was to get a note to from at&t or online somewhere, dose anyone see a way around the issue,
Thanks