New Z5 compact should I update? - Xperia Z5 Compact Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

So I got a new Z5 compact phone, and it has android 5.1.1. I've been "using" it for 3 weeks now. It lasted a week on the first charge, and two weeks on the second. I am not really using it, it just stays in my pocket. I have listened about 3h of music and 10min of facebook, and shoot couple of pictures in this past 3 weeks. So I am satisfied by the battery. The only problem I think I have is when I call the screen turns off and I need to press the power button to be able to quit the call. I have not had this problem with my tipo, it turns off the screen only when the phone is near my ear.
So in short I am kinda satisfied by how it is now. So I don't know if updating will make it better or worse.
Also if updating should I just update through my phone, since it is showing me the update( and can't get ride of it ) or through a pc?

In simple terms, from my experience.....
To update - security patches and nougat has a lot more functionally which I found very useful.
Not to update - battery life! It's drastically different. I used to get 2 days but now only a day with between 2 and 2.5hrs screen on time. Standby time not that good either.
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Note just crashed...hard

I've had my note for almost two weeks now. This afternoon, I was using it as I always do, mostly mail, some web stuff and music - thus no extended gaming, etc to overheat the GPU.
I put it in my pocket, removed it several minutes later and it was completely dead - and I couldn't even turn it back on. It wasn't banged around or anything, and there was at least 50% charge in the battery. I opened the back, removed and replaced the battery. Still nothing. I tried again about 20 minutes later, and it powered up as normal. And it has been since.
Is this weirdness that happens occasionally to current gen android phones? Anyone else have similar issues? Should I try to exchange it?
baaj said:
I've had my note for almost two weeks now. This afternoon, I was using it as I always do, mostly mail, some web stuff and music - thus no extended gaming, etc to overheat the GPU.
I put it in my pocket, removed it several minutes later and it was completely dead - and I couldn't even turn it back on. It wasn't banged around or anything, and there was at least 50% charge in the battery. I opened the back, removed and replaced the battery. Still nothing. I tried again about 20 minutes later, and it powered up as normal. And it has been since.
Is this weirdness that happens occasionally to current gen android phones? Anyone else have similar issues? Should I try to exchange it?
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thats odd. is it stock? if not, you should list everything you did to the phone. If you had it overclocked, maybe it overheated and shut down so as not to fry the chips?
Yeah, all's still stock. I've not even rooted yet.
Same thing happened to me with a skyrocket that I had. Except I did have it rooted running sky ics rom. And I had it plugged into the charger. So...maybe not quite the same thing...sorry. lol
I just went to the store and swapped it out for a new one. No questions asked within 30 days.
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baaj said:
I've had my note for almost two weeks now. This afternoon, I was using it as I always do, mostly mail, some web stuff and music - thus no extended gaming, etc to overheat the GPU.
I put it in my pocket, removed it several minutes later and it was completely dead - and I couldn't even turn it back on. It wasn't banged around or anything, and there was at least 50% charge in the battery. I opened the back, removed and replaced the battery. Still nothing. I tried again about 20 minutes later, and it powered up as normal. And it has been since.
Is this weirdness that happens occasionally to current gen android phones? Anyone else have similar issues? Should I try to exchange it?
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my note did the exact same thing yesterday or day befor,, i keep it in my locker at work , any how looked at it had over 50% battery life and when i came back a few hours later , it was dead , i got it to come on but battery was way way down , no life ,, dont know what the deal was ,, but has been running fine now.
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Just happend to me, after testing out the mhl adapter at my parents place i restarted the phone. Then once all was booted up i put it to sleep to make the drive home only 15 min away i did notice the the phone was hot in my pocket but screen wasnt on. Pulled out my phone and it didnt turn on. I pluged in the the usb and it powered up normal.
Well its a new toy, they will have bugs and they will fix them. So far so good. I did get the juice defender app, seams to be.working.out.great went all day and still had 75% power when I got home.
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My phone does get warm from time to time (on the back right below the camera lens), though I didn't notice it before the crash. Is this heat normal?
Only thing i did have is a random reboot once...thats about it.
Galaxy Note
My only odd experience is after unplayable Asphalt 6HD for a little while, and phone does get warm. After I close the game I get nothing. Blank screen and take a few minutes to come back to life and when it does it as if it went through a soft reboot.
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UPDATE - problem has not gone away. It seems to be (at least partially) related to a malformed battery contact. Exchanging for a new one tomorrow.
I'm a light user throughout the day. Charged my phone to 100% before I left for work today. On my way home, I used my phone a lot. I visited websites that had a lot of content. I was pinching and zooming and the phone crashed/restarted on me. Same thing happen 10 minutes later. I was using the phone for about 20 minutes non stop prior to this to happening. The phone was in the upper 50s (56%-59%). The phone was getting noticeably warm on the back cover, but not to point where it was burning hot.
This doesn't happen to me during my lunch when I use the phone non-stop for a full hour. My phone is stock, not rooted. Had for about 1 1/2 week now.

Issues with my Z Ultra (C6806)

Hey everyone. I've had my Z Ultra for almost a week and am loving the size. The Note 2 feels super small in my hands now. However, I've been encountering some issues with mine which is the C6806 version and wanted to see if there were anybody else experiencing these issues:
1. "Smudges" on the screen which do not seem to go away - I've noticed there is a patch of "smudge" which stays there regardless of how much I attempt to rub it off with my shirt or fingers. From another post I read, it looks like it could be the anti-fingerprint coating coming off.
2. Running hot even with screen off - I've noticed that the phone will sometimes become very warm during use and even with the screen off. Granted this may be some apps I'm running but I'm not doing anything out of the ordinary compared to what I did on my Note 2. I do have Skype running, Lookout, and Microsoft Lync along with emails facebook and such. I'm not running anything intensive.
3. "Silver flake" in the screen - it almost looks like a reverse dead pixel. When I have my screen off, the spot looks silver when seen in the light.
4. Battery life is short - I know the phone is massive and it has a big screen so I wasn't expecting anything better than my Note 2. However, it has been only 6-7 hours and my battery has drained to 20% with somewhat light usage. I'm not checking my phone constantly or anything and had made a phone call which lasted about 10 minutes. I do have Stamina mode with 5 apps added to the list of not to disable (Skype, Lync, AT&T messages, and two others). I also have the SmartWatch 2 connected so not sure if this is contributing to the poor battery life.
Just wanted to see if anybody has experienced any of these issues. I will probably exchange it for another one once I get back from travels. Based on some quick searching of the forums, it doesn't seem like there are many issues but it seems majority of users have the C6802 or C6833 as the C6806 just came out on Oct. 15th (I believe) so hopefully it is this particular model.
Thanks in advance.
nOrbX187 said:
Hey everyone. I've had my Z Ultra for almost a week and am loving the size. The Note 2 feels super small in my hands now. However, I've been encountering some issues with mine which is the C6806 version and wanted to see if there were anybody else experiencing these issues:
1. "Smudges" on the screen which do not seem to go away - I've noticed there is a patch of "smudge" which stays there regardless of how much I attempt to rub it off with my shirt or fingers. From another post I read, it looks like it could be the anti-fingerprint coating coming off.
2. Running hot even with screen off - I've noticed that the phone will sometimes become very warm during use and even with the screen off. Granted this may be some apps I'm running but I'm not doing anything out of the ordinary compared to what I did on my Note 2. I do have Skype running, Lookout, and Microsoft Lync along with emails facebook and such. I'm not running anything intensive.
3. "Silver flake" in the screen - it almost looks like a reverse dead pixel. When I have my screen off, the spot looks silver when seen in the light.
4. Battery life is short - I know the phone is massive and it has a big screen so I wasn't expecting anything better than my Note 2. However, it has been only 6-7 hours and my battery has drained to 20% with somewhat light usage. I'm not checking my phone constantly or anything and had made a phone call which lasted about 10 minutes. I do have Stamina mode with 5 apps added to the list of not to disable (Skype, Lync, AT&T messages, and two others). I also have the SmartWatch 2 connected so not sure if this is contributing to the poor battery life.
Just wanted to see if anybody has experienced any of these issues. I will probably exchange it for another one once I get back from travels. Based on some quick searching of the forums, it doesn't seem like there are many issues but it seems majority of users have the C6802 or C6833 as the C6806 just came out on Oct. 15th (I believe) so hopefully it is this particular model.
Thanks in advance.
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Only one I have experienced is battery life and it will improve on its own. Batteries have to be charged and discharged a few times before you can accurately gage the battery life. I did notice one weird pixel but I can only see it when phone is booting. During normal use its gone.
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nOrbX187 said:
Hey everyone. I've had my Z Ultra for almost a week and am loving the size. The Note 2 feels super small in my hands now. However, I've been encountering some issues with mine which is the C6806 version and wanted to see if there were anybody else experiencing these issues:
Just wanted to see if anybody has experienced any of these issues. I will probably exchange it for another one once I get back from travels. Based on some quick searching of the forums, it doesn't seem like there are many issues but it seems majority of users have the C6802 or C6833 as the C6806 just came out on Oct. 15th (I believe) so hopefully it is this particular model.
Thanks in advance.
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- smudges on the screen are because of the coating on the sony screen protector. The coating is wearing off.
# Options: Take it back and sony will replace it. Then the next time they wont! You will need to apply a screen protector.
- Temperature. Its aluminium and glass. Heat dispersion will be good, but it will also feel hotter than other plastic devices due to convection of these materials.
# Options: Don't have it in your pocket as that will keep the device warm. 2: Don't worry about it. Unless its over 60 degrees its fine. And if it was over 60 degrees you wouldn't be able to touch it.
- Dead pixel. - Probably is a dead pixel. Replacement
- Battery - allowing wifi and other modems to remain on during stamina mode kinda defeats the purpose. With skype on, all hardware associated with this will remain on.
7 hours is about average with heavy/moderate use. I get between 7-10 hours per day depending on use.
100% return it
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IMHO I agree with above poster, get it returned. Mine doesn't run hot at all unless I'm running a big game or something, certainly not when it's off.
It sounds like there's a wake lock or something if it's hot even when it's off and this would point to the bad battery life. If you want to confirm this install betterbatterystats from the playstore and keep it logging for a 24 hour period including a couple of charge cycles.
I would suggest there's something amiss though definitely, whether it's hardware or software remains to be seen.
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Thanks everyone for the input. I purchased mine from a Sony Store and it hasn't been 30 days yet (only less than a week as mentioned) so will go attempt to exchange. Hopefully they don't accuse me of causing this damage. I did the software upgrade yesterday evening to 2.257 and it seems like the phone does not get warm as often.
I hope it is just hardware issues. I really like this phone as I've been looking to combine my tablet and phone. I had a Note 2 / Note 10.1 combination but found that I very rarely used my tablet as it is something extra to lug around. The Z Ultra is a perfect (almost) combination as it provides me the portability of a phone but with the screen real estate of a tablet. It's nice to game on as well, downloaded a few games on the PlayStation Mobile app.
If this doesn't workout, I'll probably go to a Z/Z1 and Z Tablet combination.
I was in your situiation and got replaced. Now the phone seems perfect to me. No dead pixel. Good battery. I watch 2 soccer matches about 3 hours and it drained down to 55%.
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Anyone else a bit disappointed now they actually have the Z2 ?

Well i got my phone on Tuesday of this week, and to be honest im a bit disappointed ! i have used a Galaxy S2 for about 3 years its rooted with a custom ROM which i have found to be great. Firstly the Z2 screen is far too dark for my taste, outside i do find it hard to see the screen. and yes that's with auto brightness switched off ! i have the tap screen to wake phone switched on , sometimes im surprised how hard i actually have to tap it to switch on ! and it doesn't always respond ! in the txt message screen, i find the writing so fine its hard to see against the white background, i feel the letters should be more bold so they are easier to read. and yes i have made the txt large. i also find the phone a bit quiet, the volume of the ring tone and txt could do with being louder. and im surprised at the battery life too, not as good as my GS2, but yes i understand that i have an Apollo kernel installed which prolongs the battery. i have downloaded a task killer on to the phone to help prolong battery life, i will see what difference that makes over a few days. i know they are probably just minor things i am moaning about.
i don't know if i was expecting too much ... but i thought that in 3 years since i last changed my phone, things would of moved on an awful lot. just hope that one of the Devs works out a root and makes some custom roms, so i can have the phone how i want it . am i the only one that is a bit disappointed ?
Have you had a change to play with other new smartphones? How do you feel about them?
I don't mean to be rude or anything, but I find your claim about battery life a little hard to believe. The Z2 has WAY bigger battery and your S2's battery has had plenty of time to deteriorate. Again, not to be hostile but rather interested, could you post screenshots of battery stats after a normal day of use (both phones)?
Now of course I know hardly anything about custom roms that prolong battery life, but still...
strommy1966 said:
Well i got my phone on Tuesday of this week, and to be honest im a bit disappointed ! i have used a Galaxy S2 for about 3 years its rooted with a custom ROM which i have found to be great. Firstly the Z2 screen is far too dark for my taste, outside i do find it hard to see the screen. and yes that's with auto brightness switched off ! i have the tap screen to wake phone switched on , sometimes im surprised how hard i actually have to tap it to switch on ! and it doesn't always respond ! in the txt message screen, i find the writing so fine its hard to see against the white background, i feel the letters should be more bold so they are easier to read. and yes i have made the txt large. i also find the phone a bit quiet, the volume of the ring tone and txt could do with being louder. and im surprised at the battery life too, not as good as my GS2, but yes i understand that i have an Apollo kernel installed which prolongs the battery. i have downloaded a task killer on to the phone to help prolong battery life, i will see what difference that makes over a few days. i know they are probably just minor things i am moaning about.
i don't know if i was expecting too much ... but i thought that in 3 years since i last changed my phone, things would of moved on an awful lot. just hope that one of the Devs works out a root and makes some custom roms, so i can have the phone how i want it . am i the only one that is a bit disappointed ?
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Get rid of that Task Killer, it's the ultimate in battery draining apps. Closing and relaunching apps that could simply sit in RAM? Not helpful.
The Z2 has 3GB of RAM and a stamina mode that can be set to only allow specific apps to run when the screen is off, as well as control mobile data. You'll need another week to use it to its full potential.
I'm a fairly heavy user, streaming Spotify 5 hours a day, watching TV 3 hours a day, Netflix for 1hour, 4K recording, take on average 10 pics a day and Snapchat/Whatsapp 10 hours across my day and still get home with plenty of battery.
Even today, removed from charge at 6.30am, still off charge at 10.38pm and I've 27% left.
Screen on time is at 4hours 35minutes.
Not disappointed at all.
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mstrflsh said:
Get rid of that Task Killer, it's the ultimate in battery draining apps. Closing and relaunching apps that could simply sit in RAM? Not helpful.
The Z2 has 3GB of RAM and a stamina mode that can be set to only allow specific apps to run when the screen is off, as well as control mobile data. You'll need another week to use it to its full potential.
I'm a fairly heavy user, streaming Spotify 5 hours a day, watching TV 3 hours a day, Netflix for 1hour, 4K recording, take on average 10 pics a day and Snapchat/Whatsapp 10 hours across my day and still get home with plenty of battery.
Even today, removed from charge at 6.30am, still off charge at 10.38pm and I've 27% left.
Screen on time is at 4hours 35minutes.
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WOWWW!!!! That's one hell of a battery performance test :good:
Coming from the LG G2 I was expecting to be dissapointed, but Im not, I Love it. The screen is absolutely amazing, the sound quality is supurb!!
Battery life, wow! After the battery life on the.G2 blew me away, I did not think anything could match it, but it does!
See screen shots. This is a above normal day use. Has included music, video, youtube, internet, facebook, camera, games.
Edit: this is with stamina mode on all day.
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I have had Z2 in 2 days now. I have owned Galaxy Note 2 and Note 3 before and now Z2, i found Z2's screen brighter enough and i am actually happy with the screen. I hated the screen on Z1 though which i got for some days in between Note 2 and Note 3.
When it comes to 'Tap to wake' feature. Here's a proof how accurate it is on my Z2: http://youtu.be/qdQz42pDIao (I made the video right now with Note 3)
Strange you can't see letters when the text is large. I have text on small and i am so happy with it. See the pictures below. (You can change theme also).
I find all the new flagships since last year disappointing, and that's why I haven't upgrade from my SGS3 yet.
They all have three or four negatives.
Z2: too big (going from a SGS3 to a Z2 would be hard), overheating issue, 3 minute limit in 4K video, waterproof (it's a negative point for me because I don't want the USB charging port sealed. It's annoying if I have to charge the phone every day), you lose Sony DRM stuff if you unlock the bootloader and root, little development, delays, Z3 in second half of this year, no blocking mode (S5, M8, iPhone and Moto X and G have them and it's an essential feature), etc.
I wish it was 5.5 instead of 5.2...
The custom ROM stuff I quit after I got the Z1. Too much time spent on that with very few benefits. Personally, I rather have the magnetic charging cable.
This all comes to personal preferences. Sony like the other guys tries to appeal to as many as possible...
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jayc1980 said:
Coming from the LG G2 I was expecting to be dissapointed, but Im not, I Love it. The screen is absolutely amazing, the sound quality is supurb!!
Battery life, wow! After the battery life on the.G2 blew me away, I did not think anything could match it, but it does!
See screen shots. This is a above normal day use. Has included music, video, youtube, internet, facebook, camera, games.
Edit: this is with stamina mode on all day.
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Good on Sony for sizing their battery, I owned Samsung S2, S4 and S3, the battery with never lasted more than 5 hour of screen on. where my Z1 easily last me more than 8 hours. A potential Z2 user when the phone can be rooted with locked bootloader. I still preferred 4.3 jelly beans compared to 4.4.2 kitKat. I will not using/buying any Samsung phone in future when they introduced knox which was useless to me.
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Samsung S2 in sleeping mode.
Sensamic said:
I find all the new flagships since last year disappointing, and that's why I haven't upgrade from my SGS3 yet.
They all have three or four negatives.
Z2: too big (going from a SGS3 to a Z2 would be hard), overheating issue, 3 minute limit in 4K video, waterproof (it's a negative point for me because I don't want the USB charging port sealed. It's annoying if I have to charge the phone every day), you lose Sony DRM stuff if you unlock the bootloader and root, little development, delays, Z3 in second half of this year, no blocking mode (S5, M8, iPhone and Moto X and G have them and it's an essential feature), etc.
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The Z2 has a magnetic charging port, you never need to undo the flaps to charge it.
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The Z2 has a magnetic charging port, you never need to undo the flaps to charge it.
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This. I feel like this is one of the best features of this phone. I've heard so many complaints about annoying USB-port cover.
I have to call your bluff regarding the S2 battery life. It cannot compare at all to the Z2. The S2 battery was horrible for me, even though mine was also rooted and all. In fact, it was the only phone I ever have to buy an extended battery and it still barely lasted me a day. Note2 was so much better than the S2 and Z2 beats the Note2. So no way I am going to believe your S2 can return a better battery life than the Z2.
Battery is amazing, this was my second full charge cycle. Note my sim wasn't activated, so no cellular signal/connection. According to gsam, it used a fair amount of battery looking for signal, so should be better now.
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strommy1966 said:
Well i got my phone on Tuesday of this week, and to be honest im a bit disappointed ! i have used a Galaxy S2 for about 3 years its rooted with a custom ROM which i have found to be great. Firstly the Z2 screen is far too dark for my taste, outside i do find it hard to see the screen. and yes that's with auto brightness switched off ! i have the tap screen to wake phone switched on , sometimes im surprised how hard i actually have to tap it to switch on ! and it doesn't always respond ! in the txt message screen, i find the writing so fine its hard to see against the white background, i feel the letters should be more bold so they are easier to read. and yes i have made the txt large. i also find the phone a bit quiet, the volume of the ring tone and txt could do with being louder. and im surprised at the battery life too, not as good as my GS2, but yes i understand that i have an Apollo kernel installed which prolongs the battery. i have downloaded a task killer on to the phone to help prolong battery life, i will see what difference that makes over a few days. i know they are probably just minor things i am moaning about.
i don't know if i was expecting too much ... but i thought that in 3 years since i last changed my phone, things would of moved on an awful lot. just hope that one of the Devs works out a root and makes some custom roms, so i can have the phone how i want it . am i the only one that is a bit disappointed ?
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I think you were expecting to much lol..... seriously tho i had samsungs before this, galaxy s then a galaxy note now z2, im loving this phone, ok its not perfect but its not far off and im far from dissapointed, in fact im rather pleased, i tried recording in 4k yesterday, purely because i knew it would make my phone overheat and crash after about 5 mins....... unlike most people i made it past 5 minutes (only by 3 seconds tho) and it actually saved the video...... think i got a good one lol.
Yeah the speakers aint the loudest but the noise cancelling headphones and the bluetooth speaker i got with it more than make up for that. Screen is fine outside, maybe the viewing angle aint as good as the samsungs but its good enough. (On the plus side i work nights so wouldnt be bothered if it was dim anyway)
Battery??????????? Ummmmm you're doing something wrong, for me battery life is much better than any phone ive had before.... ive experianced that with the 'tap to wake' function too, i wouldnt say ive ever had to tap it harder, just doesnt always wake straight away.
in the 2 years since i got my galaxy note i didnt feel the samsung phones were offering anything more, sure id get more ram, bigger processor n bigger screen, but thats about it, the xperia on the other hand seemed to offer far more for me, than the note or any samsung since the note 1.
tl:dr......... Not dissapointed at all.......... yet (still need to submerge it lol)
strommy1966 said:
Well i got my phone on Tuesday of this week, and to be honest im a bit disappointed ! i have used a Galaxy S2 for about 3 years its rooted with a custom ROM which i have found to be great. Firstly the Z2 screen is far too dark for my taste, outside i do find it hard to see the screen. and yes that's with auto brightness switched off ! i have the tap screen to wake phone switched on , sometimes im surprised how hard i actually have to tap it to switch on ! and it doesn't always respond ! in the txt message screen, i find the writing so fine its hard to see against the white background, i feel the letters should be more bold so they are easier to read. and yes i have made the txt large. i also find the phone a bit quiet, the volume of the ring tone and txt could do with being louder. and im surprised at the battery life too, not as good as my GS2, but yes i understand that i have an Apollo kernel installed which prolongs the battery. i have downloaded a task killer on to the phone to help prolong battery life, i will see what difference that makes over a few days. i know they are probably just minor things i am moaning about.
i don't know if i was expecting too much ... but i thought that in 3 years since i last changed my phone, things would of moved on an awful lot. just hope that one of the Devs works out a root and makes some custom roms, so i can have the phone how i want it . am i the only one that is a bit disappointed ?
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Do you not think smart phones have got to a point where technology has levelled out?
Higher res screens, better cameras, water proofing Etc? All this year's phones are much the same.
What separated them for me was build quality and screen size preference and being waterproof.
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Do you not think smart phones have got to a point where technology has levelled out?
Higher res screens, better cameras, water proofing Etc? All this year's phones are much the same.
What separated them for me was build quality and screen size preference and being waterproof.
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yeah i think you could be right ! okay they tweak them a bit here and there,this one has a few more pixels,and so on, but with the manufactures bringing out so say flagship phones every 6 months, they cant change drastically in that short time. but we keep buying them so i guess they will keep doing it .
Sensamic said:
I find all the new flagships since last year disappointing, and that's why I haven't upgrade from my SGS3 yet.
They all have three or four negatives.
Z2: too big (going from a SGS3 to a Z2 would be hard), overheating issue, 3 minute limit in 4K video, waterproof (it's a negative point for me because I don't want the USB charging port sealed. It's annoying if I have to charge the phone every day), you lose Sony DRM stuff if you unlock the bootloader and root, little development, delays, Z3 in second half of this year, no blocking mode (S5, M8, iPhone and Moto X and G have them and it's an essential feature), etc.
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cant agree, sorry. have gone from the S3 to the Z2 and I love the size of the phone (not everyone has small fingers or small hands lol)
The 4K video limit is on all 4k phones, but exactly where would you play your 4K film? unless you have been twisted into buying a 4K tv where there is not TV programmes for it, (just like 3D withering on the vine)
Charging point sealed? do what most of us are doing, buying magnetic charger no need to open the flap, and its waterproof which your s3 and mine were not
who these days puts DRM music on anything?
only thing I can agree is night time blocking is not very good, but Flight mode suffices for me
oh and the battery performance blows the S3 out of the water, two days out of a charge instead of 12 hours if lucky
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yeah i think you could be right ! okay they tweak them a bit here and there,this one has a few more pixels,and so on, but with the manufactures bringing out so say flagship phones every 6 months, they cant change drastically in that short time. but we keep buying them so i guess they will keep doing it .
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I agree. I mean what else can they possibly put in a phone? Apart from the 64 bit step, I can't see where else they can possibly go. IMO phone, tablet and laptop have all converged; to a degree i.e. phone- mini tablet, tablet- mini laptop. I am actually surprised that phones haven't had upgradeable ram yet.
I am planning to have this phone from my Galaxy S4. Stuffs that tempt me are the stereo-speakers, the premium feel, the waterproofing and that IPS display. I always wanted to have Sony because of the design, but the TFT LCD display is the deal-breaker for me. Now comes Z2 with IPS. Also, I have been using my gf's Nexus 5 with the IPS display, the screen is awesome, brighter and crisp. So I think Z2 would be perfect for me.
And I believe Asian version Z2 has more compatibility with frequency bands than S4 (i9505). Did my research. Hurray!:victory:

My Nexus 10 is a load of crap

I bought two Nexus 10 when they were first released and I've scrapped one because the battery failed and a huge screen area went yellow and I was getting multiple annoying random reboots every day.
Now my second Nexus 10 is going the same way.
What a load of crap this tablet is, I'm not surprised Google is not updating it for no-one would buy it.
That's interesting....I have a few mates who have the Nexus 10 and none of them have had those problems. They have had theirs since they were released...Maybe you dropped them once?
You just might be an isolated incident. Another mate if mine has the N7 but the only issue is the charger port issue that many other people have.
I have a N4 and the only issue I have is that the camera stops working at times and to fix that I just restart the phone.
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That's interesting....I have a few mates who have the Nexus 10 and none of them have had those problems. They have had theirs since they were released...Maybe you dropped them once?
You just might be an isolated incident. Another mate if mine has the N7 but the only issue is the charger port issue that many other people have.
I have a N4 and the only issue I have is that the camera stops working at times and to fix that I just restart the phone.
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No misuse at all and another annoying bug is the way it deletes part of the pin number after a reboot so you have to re-do the pin number.
Gaugerer said:
Now my second Nexus 10 is going the same way.
What a load of crap this tablet is, I'm not surprised Google is not updating it for no-one would buy it.
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I am sorry to hear you are having troubles with both N10s. I would surely have the same frustrations were I you.
We have two N10s, his and hers, for about a year and half. They are used for several hours every day, because we are retired and have lots of time to be online or reading books. My wife's N10 runs Purity ROM and is rock solid for her word games and eBay, facebook, shopping, email and all the other stuff. Mine is rock solid for banking, bill pay, surfing and videos. It usually runs CM11, but could be temporarily running something else while playing around with ROMs. We charge our tablets every day, and try never to get below 50% before plugging in.
I do plan to buy at least one N9 when released, not out of need, but, instead, out of curiosity for an Android 3x4 screen format. Fun times ahead for us Nexus fans.
everybody screaming at me that i m trolling when i was saying about problems with this device few months ago
yellow screen
too many lemon batterys
hdmi problems
buzzing speakers
reboots
no original accesories
you name it ...
I m still in waranty ... i m lazy to go in service with it but after i will repair it ( i hope ) or change it i will sell it and buy a sony . I m not buying a google device again .
nexus fun boys ... what can I say
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Don't forget nexus 10 is a two years old tablet but it was a gem in its own time. After 2 years we still don't have any tablets with a higher screen resolution than nexus 10. Which makes it perfect for media consumption. I think only galaxy tab s has a better screen nowadays.
It has had its own shortcommings but most of them are by rectified by software updates, like memory leaks or random reboots.
I have purity ROM on my nexus 10 and I have zero reboots or problems. Everything works like a charm after 2 years of heavy usage. The only thing that I envy now is a super amoled screen on my tablet.
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Don't forget nexus 10 is a two years old tablet but it was a gem in its own time. After 2 years we still don't have any tablets with a higher screen resolution than nexus 10. Which makes it perfect for media consumption. I think only galaxy tab s has a better screen nowadays.
It has had its own shortcommings but most of them are by rectified by software updates, like memory leaks or random reboots.
I have purity ROM on my nexus 10 and I have zero reboots or problems. Everything works like a charm after 2 years of heavy usage. The only thing that I envy now is a super amoled screen on my tablet.
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Software updates have not stopped random reboots on my two Nexus 10 and I still suffer from system freezes and sometimes with a loud horrible noise from the speaker and I need to do a hard reset to stop it. So bad.
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Software updates have not stopped random reboots on my two Nexus 10 and I still suffer from system freezes and sometimes with a loud horrible noise from the speaker and I need to do a hard reset to stop it. So bad.
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Try to install Purity ROM on them :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2336101
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I bought two Nexus 10 when they were first released and I've scrapped one because the battery failed and a huge screen area went yellow and I was getting multiple annoying random reboots every day.
Now my second Nexus 10 is going the same way.
What a load of crap this tablet is, I'm not surprised Google is not updating it for no-one would buy it.
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I agree, the Nexus Tablet line was literally one of the biggest POS. I owned a Nexus 7 tablet for about six months and never dropped it or anything. The problem started out with ghosting/ghost input touches then later on progressed to half the touch screen not working at all... Although I initially loved it literally became one the biggest let downs ever...
On top of this, I had also read many articles on XDA and elsewhere of people with the same problem trying to send their tablet's in to ASUS for the warranty and they basically just sent the tablets back to them as is with a software upgrade, which didn't help at all since it was a hardware problem.
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I bought two Nexus 10 when they were first released and I've scrapped one because the battery failed and a huge screen area went yellow and I was getting multiple annoying random reboots every day.
Now my second Nexus 10 is going the same way.
What a load of crap this tablet is, I'm not surprised Google is not updating it for no-one would buy it.
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Mine had worked flawlessly since the week it was released.
I got mine when they released the tablet and I've never had one problem with it.
I got mine first month of release and it was great for about a year. It's still good now but my siblings abused it so now the battery drains quick (used to last all day and some of the next now I'm lucky if it reaches the end of the day) and speakers are chipping paint.
Other than that there no issues though and those are pretty much our fault. The battery problem could be from not using official charger or just charging all night
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I bought my shortly after release and have not experienced any problems with it. I have almost exclusively been using the Franco kernel with AOKP. I use it every day in place of my laptop. I can watch movies, youtube, internet, social media, etc. all day on a single charge.
I bought mine around feb/mar 2013.
It's a piece of crap.
Yellow/brownish tint on the screen that is getting bigger as we speak, battery shutdown at 30% (workarounds exist!), overheating, slow response, slow R/W speeds, etc. I have to do a factory reset pretty much every month.
On top of that: Gergle being a b*tch about it because they've deactivated my account (inactivity). Really funny guys.
I don't know what to do.
I guess I'll throw it away, as soon as I have something new. I'll never buy anything touched by Samsung again. No phone, tablet, TV, you name it. The only thing they're good as is NAND.
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I bought mine around feb/mar 2013.
It's a piece of crap.
Yellow/brownish tint on the screen that is getting bigger as we speak, battery shutdown at 30% (workarounds exist!), overheating, slow response, slow R/W speeds, etc. I have to do a factory reset pretty much every month.
On top of that: Gergle being a b*tch about it because they've deactivated my account (inactivity). Really funny guys.
I don't know what to do.
I guess I'll throw it away, as soon as I have something new. I'll never buy anything touched by Samsung again. No phone, tablet, TV, you name it. The only thing they're good as is NAND.
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Can you please tell me a workaround for 30% battery shutdown ? i have the same problem .. step by step battery die more faster ... first at 4%, 8% 10% and now 30%...
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samwheat said:
Can you please tell me a workaround for 30% battery shutdown ? i have the same problem .. step by step battery die more faster ... first at 4%, 8% 10% and now 30%...
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The problem is: I force the system NOT to shutdown. The battery stays at 0%, but the device keeps running.
This is dangerous. When the CPU ramps up and the voltage is too low it'll cause instability, which you can see by the backlight flickering, the speakers making weird noises, all that bad stuff.
I am not sure how this affects the battery (or the device) physically, since Li-Ion is not very happy when it's "too" discharged. But it'll wear out the battery even faster, I fear. (This is unfunded. I have not enough knowledge about electronics that advanced. But I've read it somewhere. :silly
But, that out of the way: There's an xposed module. I DO NOT recommend using it. It's called DisableCriticalBatteryShutdown, by the user zst123.
You WILL run into fc's of the systemui when plugging the device back in. But the process should restart by itself.
There's a thread on XDA. AGAIN, I DO NOT RECOMMEND USING THIS MODULE.
I got my Nexus 10 shortly after they were released, and though I love it because it's screen is gorgeous and it has front-facing speakers, it is really buggy, and has been since day one.
It freezes and restarts on me probably daily, and always has since it was brand new. In the early days it always happened while using Chrome, and at the time I remember reading that it was a Chrome-specific issue, so I just switched to Firefox in hopes of a better experience.
It was better, for the most part, but eventually it started freezing at other times as well. I still like the tablet, but it definitely has never been a great performer.
I got my Nexus 10 at release, after 1.5 months of Google not shipping it, losing it, telling me that it was coming, etc... Worst customer experience I ever had. I was on the phone with them daily.
When I finally got it it worked fine for a little while but as I put more and more on it and actually tried to use it to stream video, I would get random reboots, freezing, etc...
I've tried relentlessly to talk my wife into letting me unlock it and put a custom ROM on it hoping it would fix things but she would never let me. Now that it's almost two years old, and I barely use it do to all the reboots, etc..., she might finally let me unlock it.
I was really looking forward to getting this tablet when they announced it but with all the problems, for me it pretty much became a $500 paperweight. I use my GS4 so much more than I every used this tablet, even when I'm home.
IRKONIK said:
The problem is: I force the system NOT to shutdown. The battery stays at 0%, but the device keeps running.
This is dangerous. When the CPU ramps up and the voltage is too low it'll cause instability, which you can see by the backlight flickering, the speakers making weird noises, all that bad stuff.
I am not sure how this affects the battery (or the device) physically, since Li-Ion is not very happy when it's "too" discharged. But it'll wear out the battery even faster, I fear. (This is unfunded. I have not enough knowledge about electronics that advanced. But I've read it somewhere. :silly
But, that out of the way: There's an xposed module. I DO NOT recommend using it. It's called DisableCriticalBatteryShutdown, by the user zst123.
You WILL run into fc's of the systemui when plugging the device back in. But the process should restart by itself.
There's a thread on XDA. AGAIN, I DO NOT RECOMMEND USING THIS MODULE.
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So there s no solution ...
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I have 2 Nex10's. Both bought at launch. One is stable as a rock (thank god it's the wife's or else) but mine is a bit of a dud. Instabilities and crashes since day one.
Not a day goes by that I don't have to do the 3 finger salute to restart because it has frozen solid.
Tried factory resetting, flashed factory images whenever a new one was around and tried different kernels. No change whatsoever.
I believe Samsung's soc is the culprit here, which was also the issue with the chrome chrashes in the early days (GPU drivers that fixed the issue where delayed by Samsung, which was silly as it's a stock Mali GPU).
Never mind the USB connectivity issues that only Samsung devices do. I had no problem connecting any of my other tablets and phones (Nexus 7, 4, 5, Xperia Z, various HTCs, even Nokia Lumias) to my PC. The Nex10? No dice. I had to manually remove any and all USB drivers, do 3 rain dances and pray to the lord of shadows before I got it to work.

Tablet dies when battery drops <50%

Hello everyone, I bought my Nexus 9 two years ago and it has been a complete disaster for me since the beggining.
During the summer, the tablet desided to go crazy when the battery dropped below 30-40%.
The screen would turn white and the tablet produced a REALLY loud noise.
Since there is no dedicated HTC service center in my country, the tablet was sent to Romania 3 times, in order to be fixed.
The first time they only flashed again the stock firmware, the second time the service center "cleaned the screen from dust" and the third time (it had already been a month), they finally decided to fix it by replacing the screen and the charging circuits.
The table was ok since that, but last week randomly it decided to lag when battery was under 30-40%, the cpu got stock at 653mhz and it stopped charging.
Since i was on lineage Os, i thought it might be a rom or kernel issue, and i reverted back to stock.
However, the stock rom only solved the charging issues, as I was able to fully charge the tablet.
But now, when the battery drops below 50% the tablet dies on its own.
The only way to turn it back on, is to open the back cover, unplug the battery and then replug it.
Do you have any ideas as what might that be?
Is this because the battery has died, or maybe because of some other hardware problem?
I really wish i can solve this on my own, because now my tablet is out of warranty and the repair center has been proved not to be trustworthy
Thank you
nickefor said:
Hello everyone, I bought my Nexus 9 two years ago and it has been a complete disaster for me since the beggining.
During the summer, the tablet desided to go crazy when the battery dropped below 30-40%.
The screen would turn white and the tablet produced a REALLY loud noise.
Since there is no dedicated HTC service center in my country, the tablet was sent to Romania 3 times, in order to be fixed.
The first time they only flashed again the stock firmware, the second time the service center "cleaned the screen from dust" and the third time (it had already been a month), they finally decided to fix it by replacing the screen and the charging circuits.
The table was ok since that, but last week randomly it decided to lag when battery was under 30-40%, the cpu got stock at 653mhz and it stopped charging.
Since i was on lineage Os, i thought it might be a rom or kernel issue, and i reverted back to stock.
However, the stock rom only solved the charging issues, as I was able to fully charge the tablet.
But now, when the battery drops below 50% the tablet dies on its own.
The only way to turn it back on, is to open the back cover, unplug the battery and then replug it.
Do you have any ideas as what might that be?
Is this because the battery has died, or maybe because of some other hardware problem?
I really wish i can solve this on my own, because now my tablet is out of warranty and the repair center has been proved not to be trustworthy
Thank you
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Your original issue is kinda common on n9. It could have been solved by unplugging the battery (maybe cleaning connection) and re-plugging. The new issue I haven't seen before. Maybe try wiping the battery stats.
I can confirm that re-plugging battery helped in my N9
I just got this Nexus 9 a couple weeks ago from a family member who got a new tablet due to the Nexus 9 doing a similar thing as the OP has described. The battery would get like 50%-20% and screen would go crazy and a loud screeching noise would take place until you hard reset with the power button. Worked great long as i kept it plugged in on the charger.
So i fixed the problem on mine by doing what others recommended. I took the back off the tablet and disconnected the battery. cleaned up the contacts and let it sit unplugged for a few mins and put it all back together. I then dumped the stock OS for lineage and elemental kernel which also disables the encryption allowing the tablet to run significantly faster than the stock setup. I also disabled the animations in the developers options as i'm a power user through and through over eye candy.
Since doing all that, i'm on week two of heavy usage and the tablet runs like new and is snappy as hell. Goes through the whole cycle of the battery now without the screen going nuts and the screeching noise when the battery gets low 50% - 20%. Not sure how long it will last but so far so good and i scored a decent tablet for free. Only thing holding this tablet up is the the lousy 2gb ram but it's still a very respectable piece of hardware to be 2014 tech.
If it acts up again i may invest in a new battery for it to see if it fixes the issue as i don't have any money invested in the tablet anyway. So it would at least be worth a new battery but so far i've had no problems with it after doing the above fixes recommended by others and the battery in it still gets roughly between 6-7 hrs between charges so not bad for a battery that old.
Just finished up my holiday shopping with the Nexus 9 and not a problem out of it so far. If this Nexus 9 stays working good then it will be replacing my Nexus 7 2012 32gb Grouper as my daily driver. The old Nexus 7 has been solid for me since i got it in 2012 but it's really time to let it go as it's really showing it's age now but still works good as a reader and browsing the web isn't too god aweful. Hope the OP figures out a solution as the Nexus 9 is still a very capable tablet. Hope my experience shared helps with your issue.
Juggley said:
I just got this Nexus 9 a couple weeks ago from a family member who got a new tablet due to the Nexus 9 doing a similar thing as the OP has described. The battery would get like 50%-20% and screen would go crazy and a loud screeching noise would take place until you hard reset with the power button. Worked great long as i kept it plugged in on the charger.
So i fixed the problem on mine by doing what others recommended. I took the back off the tablet and disconnected the battery. cleaned up the contacts and let it sit unplugged for a few mins and put it all back together. I then dumped the stock OS for lineage and elemental kernel which also disables the encryption allowing the tablet to run significantly faster than the stock setup. I also disabled the animations in the developers options as i'm a power user through and through over eye candy.
Since doing all that, i'm on week two of heavy usage and the tablet runs like new and is snappy as hell. Goes through the whole cycle of the battery now without the screen going nuts and the screeching noise when the battery gets low 50% - 20%. Not sure how long it will last but so far so good and i scored a decent tablet for free. Only thing holding this tablet up is the the lousy 2gb ram but it's still a very respectable piece of hardware to be 2014 tech.
If it acts up again i may invest in a new battery for it to see if it fixes the issue as i don't have any money invested in the tablet anyway. So it would at least be worth a new battery but so far i've had no problems with it after doing the above fixes recommended by others and the battery in it still gets roughly between 6-7 hrs between charges so not bad for a battery that old.
Just finished up my holiday shopping with the Nexus 9 and not a problem out of it so far. If this Nexus 9 stays working good then it will be replacing my Nexus 7 2012 32gb Grouper as my daily driver. The old Nexus 7 has been solid for me since i got it in 2012 but it's really time to let it go as it's really showing it's age now but still works good as a reader and browsing the web isn't too god aweful. Hope the OP figures out a solution as the Nexus 9 is still a very capable tablet. Hope my experience shared helps with your issue.
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I just picked up a spare Nexus 9 because I want to try an Android build that has encryption turned off (I have a Nexus 9 running 7.1.x). So I'm very interested in your build, it's overall compatibility, and how you went about selecting and installing what you did.
But on to your screen/screeching problem! I solved mine by removing the back cover, disconnecting the battery, cleaning the connections, and putting it all back together. It's been running problem-free for months now! Here is my original post and replies on that exact issue: https://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-9/help/strange-crash-specific-app-t3604379
I'm not that good at assembly/disassembly, but this was very easy! Good luck!
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Your original issue is kinda common on n9. It could have been solved by unplugging the battery (maybe cleaning connection) and re-plugging. The new issue I haven't seen before. Maybe try wiping the battery stats.
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You rock! So far (just did it today) this has totally worked for me. I Have ran the crap out of it on lest then 50% battery and no issues!
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You rock! So far (just did it today) this has totally worked for me. I Have ran the crap out of it on lest then 50% battery and no issues!
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Nice! I have a 2nd N9 as well, a white one (my first was black) and it has that same issue. I cleaned the battery connection. Fixed it for a few months, then came back. Now at all different battery levels (all below 40%). Iay try cleaning it again.
My first one is on it's 2nd USB daughterboard. And needs another one now. Mostly my fault this time. Watching movies in my work truck (really safe, I know) with an OTG stick plugged in and it fell out of it's stand and smacked right on the otg stick. Now charging and OTG file transfers are hit and miss (mostly miss).
I'm going to fix it again. The USB daughterboard is only around $10 - $15 US. Takes about 15 minutes to fix.
Seems the different colors (white, black, sand color) each are prone to each of the common hardware issues. Black one never had battery issue, but it's getting bubbles in screen at the corners.
Both have the faded, white - ish spots on the screen at the left side (in landscape). Around where the nav bar is in portrait. May have something to do with it.
Ok I've rambled on enough, LoL.
Enjoy your weekend, all you Nexus 9 owners out there.
Sure, we were all a little disappointed at the build quality. Especially for the launch price. And ESPECIALLY if you had the added excitement of upgrading from a Nexus 7 (2013), like I did (and many others). But we still hang on to the 9 because it's tough to replace. Size, flashability, nostalgia, and a bunch of leftover "but this thing was supposed to a super Nexus* that doesn't go away.
Ok done rambling for real this time! ?

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