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For those still using the TG01 I've just done a mod that gives my TG01 9 days on a single charge... that's right, 9 days on a single charge!!! Of course it depends on usage.
Image 1 (see thumbnails) shows the completed mod. I did this by making a battery tray out of 1/4" square pine rods I picked up at an RC hobby shop. The rear cover is Mugen's from their 2600 mAh battery kit.
Image 2 shows the battery connector (black). I snagged this from an HTC 8525 junk mainboard. It has 6 contacts and only needed 3 so just left the full length to add stability.
Image 3 shows a top view of the installed battery tray and the wooden retainer strip to the right.
Image 4 shows the battery tray and battery comparison.
Image 5 shows the battery tray sitting on top of the original Toshiba battery. There was a lot of tedious work to make this tray but it wasn't too difficult.
This mod has so far exceeded my expectations. Buying a genuine Samsung OEM battery (joint Japan-Korea product) probably is one reason for the fantastic performance. And the phone isn't very heavy. The new Samsung battery only requires a single charge, unlike my original multi-battery pack which required charging several times to get a full charge. The inherently inaccurate TG01 battery meter is still present but not a real problem with this mod.
I also bought an aftermarket 5000 mAh 'fat' battery kit for the Samsung Galaxy Note in case this one didn't meet expectations and am in the process of slightly modifying that battery (adding extensions to the electrical contacts) to use with this tray. I will have to modify the back cover as the 'fat' battery is 15mm thick. I'll give an update once that mod is completed and tested. If anyone would like additional details, photos, etc., just let me know.
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Update - Finally had to recharge my phone again. This time it managed 6 days (instead of "about 5 days" that I reported initially)!!! TBH these were mostly fairly light days, no videos and games, a mixture of calls, some camera shots, and some Internet browsing. I also forgot to turn it off one night. The battery might have lasted a full week but my TG01's whacky battery protective circuitry turns the phone off when the battery level falls below "28%". After popping the battery out to recharge in my external charger I decided to check the voltage. What to my surprise the battery still had around 3.2v remaining. I was thinking WTF as it's safe to discharge li-ion/li-po batteries down to 2.75v. I wonder if there is a way to override this ridiculously conservative setting. If anyone has any idea please chime in.
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Update #2 - Oct 24th
This Samsung battery just keeps getting better and better. My 3rd full recharge cycle yielded 8 full days of light usage. My 4th full recharge cycle jumped to 9 full days!!! The 5th cycle resulted in 5 days of mixed light and heavy usage and still probably had another day of use left. See my response to fxdjacentyfxd below for more details.
Cheers!
CrashMurdock said:
For those still using the TG01 I've just done a mod that gives my TG01 about 5 days on a single charge... that's right, about 5 days on a single charge!!! Of course it depends on usage.
Image 1 (see thumbnails) shows the completed mod. I did this by making a battery tray out of 1/4" square pine rods I picked up at an RC hobby shop. The rear cover is Mugen's from their 2600 mAh battery kit.
Image 2 shows the battery connector (black). I snagged this from an HTC 8525 junk mainboard. It has 6 contacts and only needed 3 so just left the full length to add stability.
Image 3 shows a top view of the installed battery tray and the wooden retainer strip to the right.
Image 4 shows the battery tray and battery comparison.
Image 5 shows the battery tray sitting on top of the original Toshiba battery. There was a lot of tedious work to make this tray but it wasn't too difficult.
This mod has so far exceeded my expectations. Buying a genuine Samsung OEM battery (joint Japan-Korea product) probably is one reason for the fantastic performance. And the phone isn't very heavy. The new Samsung battery only requires a single charge, unlike my original multi-battery pack which required charging several times to get a full charge. The inherently inaccurate TG01 battery meter is still present but not a real problem with this mod.
I also bought an aftermarket 5000 mAh 'fat' battery kit for the Samsung Galaxy Note in case this one didn't meet expectations and am in the process of slightly modifying that battery (adding extensions to the electrical contacts) to use with this tray. I will have to modify the back cover as the 'fat' battery is 15mm thick. I'll give an update once that mod is completed and tested. If anyone would like additional details, photos, etc., just let me know.
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It's great. But it's true. May I make it myself?
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It's great. But it's true. May I make it myself?
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Yes, you certainly may. I can take some more pictures and provide more details if you're interested. The only difficult part is to find a battery connector from a junk phone to connect the new battery. You will also have to modify the original TG01 back cover if you don't have the Mugen 2600 mAh kit cover. Other than that I used some heavy gauge copper wire to make the new battery tray harness and pine wood for the tray. The original Toshiba battery was the template to make the new wood battery tray. Again, this mod is a little tedious but not too difficult. I used pine wood for the battery tray as it is very light, strong, and easy to work with.
Good luck! :good:
CrashMurdock said:
For those still using the TG01 I've just done a mod that gives my TG01 6 days on a single charge... that's right, 6 days on a single charge!!! Of course it depends on usage.
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Hi Jim. Nice work. I am glad You still use TG01 like me ))
Regards
Jacek
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Hi Jim. Nice work. I am glad You still use TG01 like me ))
Regards
Jacek
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Thanks Jacek! I appreciate the complement, especially coming from you, the battery mod master. :good: Yep, unfortunately the TG01 forums are beginning to have only echos as most have moved on. I really like my TG01 as it still does everything I need except for Skype & 3G. I confess I'm too lazy and a bit scared to mess around with cooking a new ROM to change the radio since I have no experience in such matters.
Regarding this battery mod I have to say this Samsung battery is incredible. I'm currently on day 8 of fairly light use (3rd recharge cycle) and my battery is finally down to 30%. I reboot the phone several times daily to update the inaccurate TG01 battery meter.
Regarding the battery meter I do have a question for you. Is there a way to modify the battery driver(?) or ??? so the phone will not shut off until the battery discharges down to 2.8-2.9v? We're losing quite a bit of time before recharges since the phone shuts off between 3.2-3.4v. Toshiba really screwed up on that one.
I'll be updating this thread so stay tuned my friend.
Cheers,
Jim
Hi Jim.
Sorry for late response. Yes, TG01 forum is almost dead
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I reboot the phone several times daily to update the inaccurate TG01 battery meter.
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Why do You do this at all ? Only for that to have accurate value ?
CrashMurdock said:
Regarding the battery meter I do have a question for you. Is there a way to modify the battery driver(?) or ??? so the phone will not shut off until the battery discharges down to 2.8-2.9v? We're losing quite a bit of time before recharges since the phone shuts off between 3.2-3.4v. Toshiba really screwed up on that one.
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As I remember when I was developing stub for original battery driver [ in fact my driver it is not native driver because I have ( I guess nobody have ) no knowledge how to access hardware responsible for battery measurements. It behaves exactly like device driver but calls original battery driver and sometimes ... cheat so that work with TG01 was possible under 20%. You know my 26% ]
I realized I had not any influence when TG01 shut off. I was doing some measurements. Sometimes it shut off when battery is about 3.2-3.4 ( typically ) but sometimes it shut of when battery is 2.91V . Take into account that having 3.2-3.4 battery have of course some capacity yet but You realize that there are ( can be ) big current flows ( peeks ) that can very easy do decrease voltage on snapdragon and other hardware below 3V and lower. I guess that is why voltage level when TG01 shuts off is so different.
Regards
Jacek
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Why do You do this at all ? Only for that to have accurate value?
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Greetings Jacek,
Sorry about the delay in responding. Had a cancer scare and had to take a trip to Bangkok for a complete physical. Luckily no cancer and all is good.
Regarding your question I was forced to reboot the TG01 several times daily or it would frequently turn itself off in the middle of phone calls. With my new Samsung battery I don't have to reboot it anymore but still do when the battery level drops to an indicated 30%-40% as the TG01 battery meter routine is still faulty. This new battery is so good it will last a full day even when starting at 30% charge.
I've been documenting recharge cycles and phone usage. Before going to Bangkok last week I got 9 full days of light usage! While in Bangkok I was using the phone a lot including lots of wi-fi time. I still got 5 full days with 30% remaining. I could have gotten another day but decided to recharge as hospital stay and overnight bus trip back home would have been too long before I could recharge.
I am extremely happy :laugh::victory::silly: with this new Samsung battery mod. Even still, I'm considering trying to modify my mod to use the new Samsung Galaxy Note 2 battery, rated at 3100mAh. Unfortunately, the Note 2 is so new I can't find the battery dimensions. There are no free lunches and since it has 24% more capacity it has to be 24% larger. If it's just 24% longer I can possibly modify my existing rig. If it's any wider it's not an option. If it's thicker then I would have to buy the 'fatter' Mugen cover like you have. At this late stage it isn't worth it, especially since this mod works so well.
Cheers my friend! :good:
Jim
Hi Jim.
Nice to hear You are healthy
It seems You are becoming best known battery mod maker in the world
It is nice You still want to do something with tg01.
Recently, after some rom modifications I had problems with frequent tg01 system restarts but it seems I know what was wrong. Having opportunity, i changed radio to 321 which seems to be better for talks than radio 1600 I typically was using.
Tests are in progress.
Cheers
Jacek
fxdjacentyfxd said:
Hi Jim.
Nice to hear You are healthy
It seems You are becoming best known battery mod maker in the world
It is nice You still want to do something with tg01.
Recently, after some rom modifications I had problems with frequent tg01 system restarts but it seems I know what was wrong. Having opportunity, i changed radio to 321 which seems to be better for talks than radio 1600 I typically was using.
Tests are in progress.
Cheers
Jacek
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Greetings Jacek,
Thank you for the kind words. Glad you were able to solve your radio problem. I made a mistake by putting one of my 1100mAh Cameron Sino batteries in my TG01 again. The reason was I had discharged my Samsung battery and had it on an external charger, but needed to make some calls. Now my phone is back in slow mode again unless I have Bluetooth turned on. I hope the problem is only temporary as the phone has been working perfectly until now. If you have any ideas please let me know.
Thanks, my friend!
Jim
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Greetings Jacek,
Now my phone is back in slow mode again unless I have Bluetooth turned on. I hope the problem is only temporary as the phone has been working perfectly until now. If you have any ideas please let me know.
Jim
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Hmmm , once again. You removed Your battery pack then You inserted fully charged Cameron Sino battery. From this time Your phone works very slow and only cure for it is to switch BT on ?
Regards
Jacek
fxdjacentyfxd said:
Hmmm , once again. You removed Your battery pack then You inserted fully charged Cameron Sino battery. From this time Your phone works very slow and only cure for it is to switch BT on ?
Regards
Jacek
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Yes, it's the exact same problem I had for months before I did the Samsung battery mod. Miraculously, the problem went away as soon as I installed the new Samsung. I have already removed the Cameron Sino and reinstalled the Samsung, but the 'slow' problem is still there. I have no idea why.
Thanks!
Jim
Tell mi Jim, having previously Samsung battery, You always drained it totally before charging( untill tg01 shutdown itself ) or rather You were charging it to full state again without tg01 shutdown ? It is "paranormal activity" for me but maybe reason is concerned with the fact that You removed power totally ( battery exchange ). I know it sounds stupid. Were You exchanging Samsung battery pack in the past many times and nothing wrong was happening ?
Regards
Jacek
fxdjacentyfxd said:
Tell mi Jim, having previously Samsung battery, You always drained it totally before charging( until tg01 shutdown itself ) or rather You were charging it to full state again without tg01 shutdown ? It is "paranormal activity" for me but maybe reason is concerned with the fact that You removed power totally ( battery exchange ). I know it sounds stupid. Were You exchanging Samsung battery pack in the past many times and nothing wrong was happening ?
Regards
Jacek
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Let me start by saying the original s-l-o-w problem just disappeared as soon as I started using the Samsung battery. I have to say that I have had NO problems at all using the Samsung battery. In fact, the experience with the phone is so much better because I don't even have to think about the battery anymore. Keep in mind it's a single battery so there is no fighting between battery protection circuits like I think I was having with my multi-battery mod.
To answer your question, at first I drained the Samsung battery until the TG01 auto-shut-off turned it off at around 26%. I did this because I read that a new battery needs several full discharge/recharge cycles to get maximum capacity of the battery. This has proven to be true as capacity increased each cycle finally leveling off at 9 full days between recharges. I've also partially recharged the Samsung with 30% remaining with no problems. I've only gone through about 9-10 recharge cycles to date with the Samsung because it usually lasts 8-9 days between recharges, dependent upon usage.
During this time I have also used the phone a time or two with the original Toshiba battery while the Samsung was charging, because the large Samsung battery takes a full day or night to fully recharge. The TG01 did not suffer the s-l-o-w mode then. It was only after I put the single Cameron Sino 1100mAh battery back in that the s-l-o-w mode problem started again.
I'm relatively sure a hard reset will fix the s-l-o-w problem because it worked before when using the Cameron Sino battery pack. Unfortunately the problem would come back. Now I believe the Cameron Sino battery's protective circuit may be damaged and caused the s-l-o-w problem. I won't be using that battery again. I'll update you after I hard reset the phone.
Cheers, my friend!
Jim
P.S. - Could you please post or send me your finger-swipe-to-unlock file? Mine disappeared during one of the master resets. THANKS!!!
Hi Jim.
I wait for Your hard reset results. Having opportunity maybe You change and test radio to 321 ?...
I do not quite understand what You mean "your finger-swipe-to-unlock file" ? You mean You want to remove "lock screen action" after going sleep at all ?
Regards
Jacek
fxdjacentyfxd said:
Hi Jim.
I wait for Your hard reset results. Having opportunity maybe You change and test radio to 321 ?...
I do not quite understand what You mean "your finger-swipe-to-unlock file" ? You mean You want to remove "lock screen action" after going sleep at all ?
Regards
Jacek
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Hi Jacek,
I still haven't backed up my phone yet so haven't done the master reset yet. When I first installed your custom ROM it had an Android type 'swipe to unlock' feature. I disabled it because I had the auto-screen orientation turned on and it made the swipe to unlock difficult to use. I stopped using the auto-screen orientation a long time ago because it is so laggy. I'm having to unlock the phone using the original Windows Mobile unlock feature which is crappy and would like to add the swipe to unlock feature.
Thanks!
Jim
Jim, I am getting older but I can swear I have never had any android-like software.
My custom rom has always had default WM6.5/WM6.5.x screen locker/unlocker disabled. As You surely know, this unlocker is based on sliders. Maybe that is why You say it is like in androd. Being disabled, older fashion ( WM6.1 ) screen locker is active but as You said and I can confirm, it is poor working software and that is why I personaly for my usage, totally switched off and screen lock/unlock. I do not need it at all. You can enable sliders in registry by only one switch value.
All I really needed was some kind of screen locker when TG01 is active ( let's say navigation software is on ) and You want to put in to jacket pocket or to any bag.
Without any "touch" disabler it is very probable that You ( Your pocket or bag ) touch the screen. I created some piece of software ( assigned to camera button ) that locks the screen when I want and unlocks when I want.
Regards
Jacek
Hello does anyone still use TG01?
The Samsung battery will be fully charged from TG01?
Any idea haow to modify the back cover?
Thanks
dreamH6 said:
Hello does anyone still use TG01?
The Samsung battery will be fully charged from TG01?
Any idea haow to modify the back cover?
Thanks
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Yes, it will be charged fully by TG01 internal charging circuit as long as the electrical contact points line up correctly. I did not modify the back cover. Instead I bought a 2600mAh battery cover from Mugen, who makes 2 different battery kits for the TG01, 2600 and 3900 mAh. If you don't mind paying a high price for their batteries you can just order a kit. Here is the link to Mugen:
http://www.mugen-power-batteries.com/toshiba/toshiba-tg01.html
Good luck and hope this helps!
Cheers &
CrashMurdock said:
Yes, it will be charged fully by TG01 internal charging circuit as long as the electrical contact points line up correctly. I did not modify the back cover. Instead I bought a 2600mAh battery cover from Mugen, who makes 2 different battery kits for the TG01, 2600 and 3900 mAh. If you don't mind paying a high price for their batteries you can just order a kit. Here is the link to Mugen:
http://www.mugen-power-batteries.com/toshiba/toshiba-tg01.html
Good luck and hope this helps!
Cheers &
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I think they are no longer selling replacement cover.
I see only expensive kit battery + cover ($79,95), I paid the full TG01 less
I'll try to do my best on modifying original cover for an inexpensive samsung battery
dreamH6 said:
I think they are no longer selling replacement cover.
I see only expensive kit battery + cover ($79,95), I paid the full TG01 less
I'll try to do my best on modifying original cover for an inexpensive samsung battery
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I sent an email to them at: [email protected] and asked them to sell me just a replacement back cover. I lied and told them I bought the phone used and it already had the Mugen 2600 mAh battery and cover but that I had dropped the phone and damaged the cover. They sold me a new cover (with stylus) for $14.95 U.S. dollars, which included free international shipping. This was back in August 2011 so don't know if the price is the same now.
Their batteries are OK, but don't know why they charge 10x price for them. Since the TG01 is now a very old model they will probably be glad to sell to you just the back cover. They call it "backdoor".
I hope this helps. Good luck!
Hello,
I have a very very bad SOT, I need to change the battery but a lot are false, with very bad quality, someone have buy one and fond the quality was good ? Which ?
jordandroid64 said:
Hello,
I have a very very bad SOT, I need to change the battery but a lot are false, with very bad quality, someone have buy one and fond the quality was good ? Which ?
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I use this one, seems ok:
http://m.intl.taobao.com/detail/detail.html?id=520554218583&spm=a2141.7631730.0.i1
hope this help
DealExtreme has a replacement battery.
http://www.dx.com/p/replacement-3-8...ry-for-lenovo-bl243-black-428969#.V-PmnKNh2Rs
Stated as 1800mAh but judging by the picture it is the original one (3000mah).
Look at the aliexpress there are couple of sellers selling legit batteries for K3, I buyed 2 of them few months ago. They're a little thicker than the original and in my testing they last only ~20-30min less than the original so this is fine.
Thanks, do you have links of yours please ?
I also see several adverts on Aliexpress for 3700mAh batteries for the K3 Note - anyone tried these? Some online reviews say they don't last longer than the standard 3000mAh.
Talking of batteries, my K3 is now doing this thing where as it runs down, the charge instantly drops from 30% to 15%. I wonder if it's a battery fault or a stats fault?
bryangb said:
I also see several adverts on Aliexpress for 3700mAh batteries for the K3 Note - anyone tried these? Some online reviews say they don't last longer than the standard 3000mAh.
Talking of batteries, my K3 is now doing this thing where as it runs down, the charge instantly drops from 30% to 15%. I wonder if it's a battery fault or a stats fault?
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i have also a Jiayu s3, since jiayu doesnot exist any more , lots of people bought konpson batteries (they were marked 3400 mah , now they put 3700mah labels ) obviously they are not that capacity. But they have been measured between 2500 to 3000 mah which is pretty good for an aftermarket chinese battery (original jiayu battery is 3000mah).
i have a k3 note and a a7000 which uses same battery, bought 3 batteries from aliexpress etc, none of those batteries are original (specialy that thick ones). I also wonder if konpson lenovo batteries are as good , if so for nearly same capacity of the original it is a good alternative.
belmethos said:
i have also a Jiayu s3, since jiayu doesnot exist any more , lots of people bought konpson batteries (they were marked 3400 mah , now they put 3700mah labels ) obviously they are not that capacity. But they have been measured between 2500 to 3000 mah which is pretty good for an aftermarket chinese battery (original jiayu battery is 3000mah).
i have a k3 note and a a7000 which uses same battery, bought 3 batteries from aliexpress etc, none of those batteries are original (specialy that thick ones). I also wonder if konpson lenovo batteries are as good , if so for nearly same capacity of the original it is a good alternative.
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I bought a Konpson for my K3 Note and have had great difficulty getting it to charge properly. Many times it will only charge to 76% before levelling off. And I'm still getting the problem I had with the original 3000mAh battery, which is that somewhere around the 30% mark it will suddenly drop at least 10%.
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I bought a Konpson for my K3 Note and have had great difficulty getting it to charge properly. Many times it will only charge to 76% before levelling off. And I'm still getting the problem I had with the original 3000mAh battery, which is that somewhere around the 30% mark it will suddenly drop at least 10%.
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Interesting we had the drop with Jiayu battery after lollipop onwards, konpson batteries solved that problem. Gour battery seems to be a faulty one if you cant charge more than 76%. Have you tried to charge it externally, and then to put in the phone? I wonder if anyone e else had used konpson with k3 note...
Good posts about the battery differences...from Jiayu s3 General thread...
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=72041259&postcount=17514
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=72042200&postcount=17516
https://m.ebay.in/itm/Lenovo-K3-Note-battery-By-ERD-/122342310142?_trksid=p2483125.m4853.l9013
Mostly recommended : Buy erd battery... I'm still using it..... it's better than the original Lenovo company.
No one can bat this company (sry 4 bad English)
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https://m.ebay.in/itm/Lenovo-K3-Note-battery-By-ERD-/122342310142?_trksid=p2483125.m4853.l9013
Mostly recommended : Buy erd battery... I'm still using it..... it's better than the original Lenovo company.
No one can bet this company (sry 4 bad English)
1. Go to nearest Genuine Lenovo Service Center.
2. Give your IMIE code and place your order there.
3. It will be just 750rs.
4. Use original batteries.
So my Moto Z 2016 fell into the Android 8.0 Oreo upgrade cluster**** and became a victim of the famous massive battery drainage, to the point it became impossible to use without keeping it plugged to a charger. Thing is one would logically assume this is a software issue, and therefore a rollback/downgrade would be enough to solve this problem. However, after dealing with multiple software upgrades and downgrades for 2-3 days straight with and without RSDLite in every imaginable way possible, I managed to install Android 6.0 Lollipop on the phone and everything works excellently, but the battery keeps having the same issues it had the second that phone got the lovely 8.0 update.
So my questions are: is it even remotely correct to assume the update caused physical damage to the battery? Or -even if I completely reinstalled a totally different Android version- there is still some part of the phone that contains an unmodifiable chunk of software that is corruptedly managing the battery information, therefore making buying a new battery irrelevant?
I'm asking this because I decided to believe in the first question as a yes and was about to proceed to buy a new battery AND a new glue to place the screen again back to where it is, but decided to make this thread to maybe avoid buying things that could've been unnecesary. Thanks in advance.
It's time to get a new battery.
Mine is pretty much okay with Oreo update back then. But after just 1++ year usage (bought it in Sept 2017), the battery life just dropped significantly.
Replaced it, and now it working fine. Even the repair center didn't factory reset my device (I'm on Omni ROM), so it couldn't be a software issue.
I can confirm new battery will solve the problem. I had tried everything before I ordered an original battery pack (made by Lg and my phone has juice for more than a day now. (a half before)
I think fast/turbo charging also kill the battery, so now I use a 1,5/2A charger
Ratawar said:
So my Moto Z 2016 fell into the Android 8.0 Oreo upgrade cluster**** and became a victim of the famous massive battery drainage, to the point it became impossible to use without keeping it plugged to a charger. Thing is one would logically assume this is a software issue, and therefore a rollback/downgrade would be enough to solve this problem. However, after dealing with multiple software upgrades and downgrades for 2-3 days straight with and without RSDLite in every imaginable way possible, I managed to install Android 6.0 Lollipop on the phone and everything works excellently, but the battery keeps having the same issues it had the second that phone got the lovely 8.0 update.
So my questions are: is it even remotely correct to assume the update caused physical damage to the battery? Or -even if I completely reinstalled a totally different Android version- there is still some part of the phone that contains an unmodifiable chunk of software that is corruptedly managing the battery information, therefore making buying a new battery irrelevant?
I'm asking this because I decided to believe in the first question as a yes and was about to proceed to buy a new battery AND a new glue to place the screen again back to where it is, but decided to make this thread to maybe avoid buying things that could've been unnecesary. Thanks in advance.
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I can confirm new battery will solve the problem. I had tried everything before I ordered an original battery pack (made by Lg and my phone has juice for more than a day now. (a half before)
I think fast/turbo charging also kill the battery, so now I use a 1,5/2A charger
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Could you please post a link about the battery pack kit that you said? Is there any different to a Motorola's one (capacity, dimensions etc) ? Thank you.
To our dear friend, I suggest you replace the battery. You are not alone to that issue. It's worth buying new battery. Check this thread : https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-z/how-to/defective-battery-lots-moto-zhigh-t3781335
this one: https://www.ebay.com/itm/ORIGINAL-M...e=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649
the same GV30 was in the device (2680maH). There are a lot of non oem batteries btw
tsoump said:
Could you please post a link about the battery pack kit that you said? Is there any different to a Motorola's one (capacity, dimensions etc) ? Thank you.
To our dear friend, I suggest you replace the battery. You are not alone to that issue. It's worth buying new battery. Check this thread : https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-z/how-to/defective-battery-lots-moto-zhigh-t3781335
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this one: https://www.ebay.com/itm/ORIGINAL-M...e=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649
the same GV30 was in the device (2680maH). There are a lot of non oem batteries btw
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Thank you for the quick response. I've noticed that there are many after-market batteries which have larger dimensions than the original. Do you think by just changing the battery to a new one, will solve the problem? I mean it was just effective batteries?
I think the best to replace to the original GV30. It solved the battery problem of my phone right after changing it and I'm not alone with it I guess. I had tried everything before (calibration, doze apps, etc). Nothing works if the cells of the battery are dead. It's a hardware issue
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Thank you for the quick response. I've noticed that there are many after-market batteries which have larger dimensions than the original. Do you think by just changing the battery to a new one, will solve the problem? I mean it was just effective batteries?
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garyarts said:
I think the best to replace to the original GV30. It solved the battery problem of my phone right after changing it and I'm not alone with it I guess. I had tried everything before (calibration, doze apps, etc). Nothing works if the cells of the battery are dead. It's a hardware issue
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Yeap! This is the conclusion, bad cells in the battery. I also believe the problem enhanced by the turbo charger, as you said... :/ But, how to prove it... (?)
Prove? I can prove in a year
Just think about it. It's simple physics, faster thermal expansion kills cells. That's why they're said not to let discharged fully. Or whatever
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Yeap! This is the conclusion, bad cells in the battery. I also believe the problem enhanced by the turbo charger, as you said... :/ But, how to prove it... (?)
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Hi there,
did anyone tried https://www.aliexpress.com/item/LOS...-01-XT1650-03-XT1650-05-GV40/32842305696.html battery?
Thanks!
moemos said:
Hi there,
did anyone tried https://www.aliexpress.com/item/LOS...-01-XT1650-03-XT1650-05-GV40/32842305696.html battery?
Thanks!
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Look, many customers have tried these extended batteries but noone can prove that this myth works! On the other hand, many videos and comments have uploaded on the internet and people have shared their experience: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hRdg75PAMw
I believe that it's impossible to extend a battery capacity while the space inside the phone is very specific.
A project, though, is in progress by a member of XDA who is trying to replace GV30 to GV40 battery: https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-z/help/replace-gv30-gv40-t3896369
You'll want a battery that's SMALLER capacity than the oem. The issue is that lithium ion batteries hate being thinned out so trying to put the 2600maH OEM battery inside this chassis is a recipe for disaster. I believe the iFixit battery is around 2400maH.
I think we'd be fine with shorter life than stock. What many are missing is consistent battery life. It's one thing to get 2hours SOT, it's another to be at 80% and have it shutdown.
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You'll want a battery that's SMALLER capacity than the oem. The issue is that lithium ion batteries hate being thinned out so trying to put the 2600maH OEM battery inside this chassis is a recipe for disaster. I believe the iFixit battery is around 2400maH.
I think we'd be fine with shorter life than stock. What many are missing is consistent battery life. It's one thing to get 2hours SOT, it's another to be at 80% and have it shutdown.
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It's appropriate to give us a link about these batteries.
I did change the motherboard and the battery to a new one gv30 and I get 3-4 SOT. What's your opinion about gv40 inside moto z?
tsoump said:
It's appropriate to give us a link about these batteries.
I did change the motherboard and the battery to a new one gv30 and I get 3-4 SOT. What's your opinion about gv40 inside moto z?
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Don't do it. The screen will bulge out. There is essentially 0 give inside the Moto Z chassis. If you're fine seeing into the phone, then it'll work for you. However, I'd probably opt for the iFixit kit. It's an official Moto solution, and while it might have the same problem it won't introduce a worse problem.
May batteries you find online will say "OEM" but they are often rebrands. And even if they're just 0.1mm thicker, the screen won't adhere. A proper phone replace shop ordered me a replacement battery and it was too thick. This was a year ago, and I eventually just replaced it with a $300 new Moto Z from Amazon (I had broken my screen replacing the battery myself).
I don't know the links persay, but I see there's this one from SWARK https://www.amazon.com/Replacement-Compatible-XT1650-03-XT1650-05-XT1650-01/dp/B07GQWHLH1
I haven't tried that one myself, but I'd be curious to see the thickness.
Just replacing my moto z battery with cheap (fake?) gv30 that i buy for only around $7 in my local (Indonesia) marketplace
Please look the attached picture for its (peak) performance, and this how i got those number:
- charge to 91% with 5v/1.2A charger (ASUS charger)
- watching movie for 3 hours with airplane mode and bluetooth earphone on
- sleeping with airplane mode on
- using my phone normally with wifi on and data off until the battery reach 3%
Thank you all for your answers and sharing your experiences.
Unfortunately, after buying all I needed from the USA (battery pack and 2 B7000 glue blisters shipped to Argentina) I proceeded to attempt to fix the phone. While heating up the screen to remove it, I burned all of the LCD corners and completely ruined the screen. I don't know what did I do so differently from all of the technicians in videotutorials where thay apply the exact same or even more heat on the screen and still left it intact, but there's nothing that can be done about it except buying a new screen replacement, but since we didn't want to spend much money on this phone, we just discarded it. Such a shame and disgraceful event, it still bugs me out.
Guys, the backside of my phone is slightly bulged on the left side of the phone (the side where no buttons). Is it because of the battery? Because in recent days my phone gets hot like a frying pan. If the bulge is because of the battery swelling then I'm planning to buy a new battery.
Since some people said that the batteries bought from sites like AliExpress have poor battery life, I am planning to buy a genuine Lenovo battery. Has anyone bought the original one? If yes how is it's performance? What is your opinion on buying the original one?
Haven't anyone replaced your Z2's old battery with the genuine Lenovo one? Can anyone answer please?
Check this thread
https://forum.xda-developers.com/le...eplacement-t3889607/post78838138#post78838138
niyonsv said:
Guys, the backside of my phone is slightly bulged on the left side of the phone (the side where no buttons). Is it because of the battery? Because in recent days my phone gets hot like a frying pan. If the bulge is because of the battery swelling then I'm planning to buy a new battery.
Since some people said that the batteries bought from sites like AliExpress have poor battery life, I am planning to buy a genuine Lenovo battery. Has anyone bought the original one? If yes how is it's performance? What is your opinion on buying the original one?
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Hey bro have you got any solution. I have same problem
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Hey bro have you got any solution. I have same problem
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Bro if the battery of your Z2 is swollen then replace it immediately. I replaced mine two times with original Lenovo battery, from official Lenovo service centre, but the first time it failed and lost my money. Now the second battery is running better so far. Please keep in mind that some ROMs will also impact the life and temperature of the battery. I had the issue with AEX 6.x. I'm now using AOSiP 9 without any issues, but it's development has stopped a while ago.
Also if you are buying original genuine Lenovo battery then it'll cost almost triple or quadruple times the money of non genuine one. My friend has bought one from Maxbhi.com and hasn't had any battery issue so far.
niyonsv said:
Bro if the battery of your Z2 is swollen then replace it immediately. I replaced mine two times with original Lenovo battery, from official Lenovo service centre, but the first time it failed and lost my money. Now the second battery is running better so far. Please keep in mind that some ROMs will also impact the life and temperature of the battery. I had the issue with AEX 6.x. I'm now using AOSiP 9 without any issues, but it's development has stopped a while ago.
Also if you are buying original genuine Lenovo battery then it'll cost almost triple or quadruple times the money of non genuine one. My friend has bought one from Maxbhi.com and hasn't had any battery issue so far.
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What is the cost in lenovo service centre and i am using PE 9.
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What is the cost in lenovo service centre and i am using PE 9.
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They charged me ₹1500 then. I think better buy from Maxbhi.com like sites and change ourself. But now I stopped using this phone due to multiple accidental damages.
Bulging is bad battery
i had bulging battery too; please look into my reply in this thread
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lenovo-zuk-z2/help/original-battery-z2-plus-t4034743
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They charged me ₹1500 then. I think better buy from Maxbhi.com like sites and change ourself. But now I stopped using this phone due to multiple accidental damages.
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Hey bro i think m going to buy from maxbhi.com is it going to be a good or not..?
raj1221 said:
Hey bro i think m going to buy from maxbhi.com is it going to be a good or not..?
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I'm not 100% sure, but one of my friends is using a battery from maxbhi, for Z2 itself for many months. His phone doesn't have any issue till now. They are cheaper in maxbhi.
The Lenovo one costs too much but they don't give any warranty even if it not working in the next day. My first replacement battery costed ₹ 2000, 1500 for the battery and 500 for service charge, and they didn't give any bill or warranty. Within 3 weeks it stopped working. When I reached the service centre they said that I had to buy a new one for 2k. After a bit long fight I had to buy new one without service charge that's how it became 1.5k.
If my Z2's battery stops working, definitely I won't buy the original.
Sent from my OnePlus7T using XDA Labs
niyonsv said:
I'm not 100% sure, but one of my friends is using a battery from maxbhi, for Z2 itself for many months. His phone doesn't have any issue till now. They are cheaper in maxbhi.
The Lenovo one costs too much but they don't give any warranty even if it not working in the next day. My first replacement battery costed ₹ 2000, 1500 for the battery and 500 for service charge, and they didn't give any bill or warranty. Within 3 weeks it stopped working. When I reached the service centre they said that I had to buy a new one for 2k. After a bit long fight I had to buy new one without service charge that's how it became 1.5k.
If my Z2's battery stops working, definitely I won't buy the original.
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Cool thanks bro ...lets see what happens i ordered the battery from maxbhi.
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Cool thanks bro ...lets see what happens i ordered the battery from maxbhi.
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you got battery from maxbhi? hows it please review it to help others also.
aasim92 said:
you got battery from maxbhi? hows it please review it to help others also.
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They don't have stock bro..?
Avoid Maxbhi for battery
looks like they do not have battery since 1 year; whereas they are good for LCD and touch screens, other parts are listed but generally never available with them
The battery from maxbhi is out of stock, The ones from AliExpress costs 1100 INR with shipping, I just have to check with the Lenovo service center then. If it's not more than 2000 I'm ok with it. As zuk z2 form factor is too good.Will update later guys.
Hi
I want to reuse my ZUK we have any link from ebay or AliExpress with reliable battery?
Does anyone has battery swolen issue. Yesterday I noticed a little bump on back of my phone. On the right side on Poco logo. When I took my phone to service center they told me it's the battery that's Swollen and needs to be replaced at 2800 Rs. Iss it safe to continue using my phone without replacement. Our should I get a replacement from local repair shopThough I am sceptical about the quality of the repair.
Anyone else had same issue?
Also will the aftermarket battery will support fast charging
harshgohan said:
Does anyone has battery swolen issue. Yesterday I noticed a little bump on back of my phone. On the right side on Poco logo. When I took my phone to service center they told me it's the battery that's Swollen and needs to be replaced at 2800 Rs. Iss it safe to continue using my phone without replacement. Our should I get a replacement from local repair shopThough I am sceptical about the quality of the repair.
Anyone else had same issue?
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Yes, swollen batteries mean that the battery needs a replacement. Try to get a good brand or original battery in the after market. There is no way that it would be costing Rs 2800.
There is no harm in using your phone with a slightly swollen battery but I won't recommend that as it might cause other hardware issues due to its deformity in the long run.
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redhotiron2004 said:
Yes, swollen batteries mean that the battery needs a replacement. Try to get a good brand or original battery in the after market. There is no way that it would be costing Rs 2800.
There is no harm in using your phone with a slightly swollen battery but I won't recommend that as it might cause other hardware issues due to its deformity in the long run.
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I too was shocked when I heard the price for battery replacement there is only a small buldge near poco logo nothing major . But I am fearing that it may catch fire. I have a lot of videos where batteries explode.
Get it replaced
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Does anyone has battery swolen issue. Yesterday I noticed a little bump on back of my phone. On the right side on Poco logo. When I took my phone to service center they told me it's the battery that's Swollen and needs to be replaced at 2800 Rs. Iss it safe to continue using my phone without replacement. Our should I get a replacement from local repair shopThough I am sceptical about the quality of the repair.
Anyone else had same issue?
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My battery was swollen too, had to get it replaced. An aftermarket battery will cost you anywhere around ₹1000-₹1500 but it's not as reliable. I had mine replaced at the service centre for ₹2772 but it works really well now. If you can get the original one, please go for it, you won't regret it.
SAFA Mobile Battery For Xiaomi POCO F1 (I can't post the link as XDA doesn't allow me)
Get this on Flipkart! It's original. Although I feel that the price could be lesser. But, at least it's half the price at Rs 1499 and got 219 ratings with 4.5 star reviews and 6months warranty is also provided.
yes i already had that problem, after that little bump in battery your battery capacity starts to degrade to 0 capacity. i have used the battery until it's unable to work anymore. After that i purchased a battery from Amazon (Because it is very expensive in service center around 2800), and a screw driver kit, i replaced the battery myself, And the battery is original manufactured by Everup company. https://www.amazon.in/dp/B0836SP516/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_iuhwFbQ6C51E0
I went to service center and I was asked for a waiting time of 10days. I have exams so I am waiting for this month end. Thank you guys for valuable feedback.
As I am seeing a lot of poco F1 devices are getting swollen batteries. May be due to cost cutting of the product
The original battery cost 1999.
The price list from poco themselves http://www.poco.in/in/service/sparespartsprice/
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The original battery cost 1999.
The price list from poco themselves http://www.poco.in/in/service/sparespartsprice/
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Cost 1999
Service Charge 350
GST 18% on both 63+359.82(422.82)
Adds up to 2771.82
Source: I got it replaced at the service centre because I wanted to preserve the warranty.
How many of my Friends Have battery swollen issue And are using their charger on inverter supply
After the battery in my 10 month old device first showed degradation I switched from the stock 18W charger to a 10W charger that came bundled with my old Redmi Note 3. Xiaomi has definitely cut corners in order to keep prices down or its QC 3.0 as some Mi 8 owners had also reported premature battery degradation. Kernel profile reports 10% loss while Accubattery estimates battery health at 80%(originally at 93/95%). Nearly 4 year old Redmi Note 3 and Redmi 3s still have in excess of 85% battery health. I keep all my devices I keep battery charge between 40-80%. No fast charging mods or custom thermals. No gaming except a few casual ones recently. Battery temps were moderate for the most part.
Purely in my use cases I used to get 13-15 hours SoT which is down to barely 11 hours now.
Hoping to get another year out of the battery. After that will replace with genuine battery. Third-party party ones usually aren't good. Some give good bb intially but by 6 months it would have degraded a lot.
Mine After 1.5 yrs of purchase Already down to 71% And only 2800 mah backup left of 4000 mah surely battery is one of the aspects where Xiaomi has cut Corners.
Looking best online seller and manufactured for Poco F1 battery
I am also facing battery bit swollen issue my Poco F1 . I am looking best battery and its backup for the replacement . Please suggest me that best battery manufactured and online seller.
My battery was around 80-90% not swollen. "Was" because I had mainboard issues and the authorized service center didn't keep battery charged.
It died in just 2 months cause I opted to buy 2nd hand replacement board from China. You all should see the price of a brand new mainboard from Xiaomi/Poco, almost the cost of a new phone! At least they replaced my battery.
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Does anyone has battery swolen issue. Yesterday I noticed a little bump on back of my phone. On the right side on Poco logo. When I took my phone to service center they told me it's the battery that's Swollen and needs to be replaced at 2800 Rs. Iss it safe to continue using my phone without replacement. Our should I get a replacement from local repair shopThough I am sceptical about the quality of the repair.
Anyone else had same issue?
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Bro get the repair done by service center. There are chances that the phone's battery will Explode on heavy usage, and I am sure that you don't want to buy a new phone for now.
Rs 2800 is good if you are replacing it at the official service center. Don't go at local repair shop, as if some other thing will happen to your phone then they will say that they were not responsible for that.
So please don't use your device much and get the replacement done.
Hi, late to the thread but i faced a similar issue with my poco f1 with swollen battery n drain, got it replaced but again new battery too has the same swollen problem and Battery drain in just one month. Could it be the motherboard or battery again?
To prolong the useful life of the battery I have resorted to bypass charging in late May. Since then only 12 battery cycles have been used in over 1.5 months! Over the previous 20 months the daily average was 1.1/day. SoT had fallen down to ~10 hours. But now no anxiety about battery drain as long as a power outlet is nearby. Thermals are better as battery doesn't charge and discharge frequently when plugged in. In my older Redmi devices wherein bypass charging worked from the very beginning the battery health is still in the 80-85% range even after 4+ years.
apachemanz said:
Hi, late to the thread but i faced a similar issue with my poco f1 with swollen battery n drain, got it replaced but again new battery too has the same swollen problem and Battery drain in just one month. Could it be the motherboard or battery again?
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Most likely the battery. Was it a third-party one? Did you monitor the battery health with Accubattery or similar? The built-in battery tool might not work with unofficial ones.