Higher volume then 75? - LG V30 Questions & Answers

Is there a way to increase the output i feel that 75 is ok but sometimes i would like to listen louder. I fell that my HTC 10 was louder.
Using Soundmagic E10 and the ones came in the box
It's unlocked UK unit from CPW
I just had impression that with this QuadDac it should blow my ears out.

?!? I don't think I've had mine over 35.... and I've lost some of my hearing.

Deadeye* said:
Is there a way to increase the output i feel that 75 is ok but sometimes i would like to listen louder. I fell that my HTC 10 was louder.
Using Soundmagic E10 and the ones came in the box
It's unlocked UK unit from CPW
I just had impression that with this QuadDac it should blow my ears out.
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QuadDAC is not about loudness, it's about quality and fidelity of sound. It won't blow your eardrums with MP3s
It's not 75. Android has 16 grades of sound volume in stock, it's 0, 1, 2, 3, 4 .... 15, 16.
16 being loudest. If every 15 is divided in 5 it's give us 75= 15*5
So that's why V20 has only 75 grades, it's not that there's some magic extra 25 to 100, for they don't exist in Android. But you may get like 34% of loudness or 68% which you can't have in another Android phones, for they have 5% steps only

CHH2 said:
?!? I don't think I've had mine over 35.... and I've lost some of my hearing.
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What app you use to listen to music? Is your phone H930?

Should you be listening to music at this level? I've only ever gone up to 40 and my earphones aren't even high impedance. Listening at 75 for any extended amount of time doesn't seem safe?

Thats the thing it's not that loud it's ok but not something that my ears are bleeding. I have HTC 10 with and that one i think i used to use for about 70% of it's volume, but with LG i feel i need more. It's ok now, but i was expecting more.

Could this be because mine is EU variant? I remember there where some discussion on Iphone that EU caps the output.

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What app you use to listen to music? Is your phone H930?
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I'm using the LG app, Google Play Music, and the Triple J app. Mine is the 932, US Tmo version.
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Could this be because mine is EU variant? I remember there where some discussion on Iphone that EU caps the output.
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Possibly. If it's an EU rule to limit volume then they would have had to do that.

Billy Madison said:
[*]QuadDAC is not about loudness, it's about quality and fidelity of sound. It won't blow your eardrums with MP3s
It's not 75. Android has 16 grades of sound volume in stock, it's 0, 1, 2, 3, 4 .... 15, 16. 16 being loudest. If every 15 is divided in 5 it's give us 75= 15*5
So that's why V20 has only 75 grades, it's not that there's some magic extra 25 to 100, for they don't exist in Android. But you may get like 34% of loudness or 68% which you can't have in another Android phones, for they have 5% steps only
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Good explanation. But it's entirely possible 75 is the highest value, that LG decided to have a 75-step progression. (maybe that's what you were saying, I'm not sure.) Yes, stock Android is 16 grades, but in my custom ROM, I can have 100 steps if I want -- or 30 steps -- or 15. The highest number is still the highest number and equals the same value.
10 dollar bills = $10
1000 pennies = $10
Having 1000 of something is not more valuable (or louder) than 10 of something else. It depends on the scale.
It's like in comedy mockumentory "This is Spinal Tap", where Nigel says something like "These speakers go to 11. The others go to 10." 11 wasn't some magic number -- the "11" speakers were just as loud as the speakers that went to "10". (Which is why it was funny -- he was so stupid he thought speakers with an "11" were "louder" than speakers that only went to "10".) But because it's a higher number, the placebo effect was there. You would have to have an audio meter to see which speakers were had more amped volume.

as with all android phones... the only answer always goes back to Viper4Android. This is a guaranty fix. however we will then have to discuss root vs non-root as it surely requires it. 1 of my 2 deal killers when considering the VZ v30 but I was able to live with the stock volume from the V30. (although my search for a high impedance earbud continues). Incidentally, there are earbuds that are louder than others but louder doesn't mean better.

Deadeye* said:
Is there a way to increase the output i feel that 75 is ok but sometimes i would like to listen louder. I fell that my HTC 10 was louder.
Using Soundmagic E10 and the ones came in the box
It's unlocked UK unit from CPW
I just had impression that with this QuadDac it should blow my ears out.
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If louder is what you are after you need to use a pair of HPs that trigger the high impedience mode. Unfortunately low impedience HPs don't have as much loudness in comparison. I think that they are trying to prevent blowing out low impedience HPs sort of like an auto gain. Pretty cool feature i think but if your heart is in low impedience HPs you may not be happy.
I have a pair of Aeons and they sound quiet and anemic. My Sony Z7s sound 10x better punchier and louder.
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Want to have a crazy sound ??

Mine goes to 11.

Deadeye* said:
What app you use to listen to music? Is your phone H930?
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Mine is H930DS (128GB edition). Is there a capping limit on volume? I use poweramp and I too can feel the volume is far lower on level 50 than my earlier V20 or even Lenovo P2 which is louder than this. Feeling kinda bummed

Sorry for this late answer,
I have make a test with the same MP3 and 2 different APP
First is the stock music player
Second is VLC player
With the same song, the volume is very loud with VLC between the stock app
Any idea ?
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..., perhaps a mistake with my explanations,
When i listen the same song with the same headphone and, the same phone
whith stock player the sound is normal, but with vlc player the sound are very higher than stock application.

dr_lester said:
..., perhaps a mistake with my explanations,
When i listen the same song with the same headphone and, the same phone
whith stock player the sound is normal, but with vlc player the sound are very higher than stock application.
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Then download Jet Audio PlayStore
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dr_lester said:
..., perhaps a mistake with my explanations,
When i listen the same song with the same headphone and, the same phone
whith stock player the sound is normal, but with vlc player the sound are very higher than stock application.
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You're asking why VLC boosts audio higher than stock LG player?
astikv said:
Then download Jet Audio PlayStore
Inviato dal mio LG-H930 utilizzando Tapatalk
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Then he will have another player that boosts audio. He already has VLC that does that.
I think he wants to know why VLC is louder or he wants stock LG player to also do that.
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[Q] Any way at all to fix my audio issues?

Finally gave up the ol iPhone 3G and "upgraded" to an SGSII. I paid a lot of money and figured it'd work, but there are two extremely niggling problems that I cannot fix.
1. No one calling me can hear me unless I use speakerphone. I did successfully fix that once with some settings accessed by typing in a number and changing a few things, but that reset when I reset my phone...I've yet to be able to fix this.
2. When listening to music on my massive Sennheiser headphones I can't hear much at all. On the iPhone if I'd even approached full volume, I woulda blown my head off, on the SGSII, even on full, Metallica sounds like a soothing lullaby.
Are there any fixes for these issues? Or are these things that perhaps are fixed simply from having a different firmware? An almost 800 dollar phone, it'd be nice if it did two basic functions without flopping.
All help is appreciated.
EDIT: Oh and forgot to mention, I know the mic works thanks to speaker phone making me heard and I know headphones/sound output can be louder because the app Volume+ or whatever boosts it fine. I just don't want to use a seperate app each time, I want a more permanant fix.
EDIT2: Okay, Poweramp works fine, and I also see types of headphones are to blame. Like the earphones that came with the phone are fine. They have 3 notches on the plug as opposed to 2. I'd say that's a fair indication. Anyway, can consider this problem solved.
Also I've been told my warranty was indeed automatic, so if I truly cannot fix the mic problem again, apparently I can send it away to get fixed. Although I guess I'll have to reset and all, hide root and all that. Don't even know how, nor do I want to be phone-less, so help will still be very appreciated.
Rizaria said:
1. No one calling me can hear me unless I use speakerphone.
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Sounds like a defect to me ... I would try to get an exchange. Maybe first compre with another SGS2 in a shop.
2. When listening to music on my massive Sennheiser headphones I can't hear much at all.
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That's pretty normal with mobile devices, which usually have an output impedance of 32 Ohm. Large HiFi headphones are optimized for much more powerfull amplifiers and so have an impedance of 250 Ohm or even more. This results in much lower volume, if high impedance headphones are used on mobile devices like phones, notebooks or MP3 players.
A further reason is, that the SGS2 has lower maximum volume, than several competitors ... seems to be limited by software.
Download Poweramp from the market ... it's worth every cent, but there's also a time limited demo. This app has a nice preamp, which allows you to raise the overall volume and it's equalizer is also very good.
I use Ogg Vorbis (224 bitrate) songs with this app combined with an AKG K319, the best mobile headphones I ever tried ... much better than even most big Sennheisers ... that being said from a former Sennheiser fan For home HiFi I recommend Beyerdynamic DT880 or DT990. Try these headphones and you'll sell your Sennheiser
The combination of Ogg Vorbis (MP3 sucks in comparison), AKG and Poweramp give me fantastic sound quality!
And don't use Metallica for testing ... their records are highly compressed ... complete junk from an accustically perspective, because all dynamics are compressed away. Google for "audio compressor" and you'll understand.
i use a combination of poweramp with a 'smiley face' or 'rocl' equalizer setting and volume+ with +3 and good quality equalizer settings.
makes my koss portapros truly shine in terms of volume and clarity.
First off, lemme say thanks for the replies. 'Preciate it.
Aymara said:
Sounds like a defect to me ... I would try to get an exchange. Maybe first compre with another SGS2 in a shop.
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Possibly, it's been awhile since I got it though and I dunno where I put my receipt so I sort of doubt the shop will care. And defect or not, I feel it's more a software/firmware issue as I truly was able to fix it at some point.
That's pretty normal with mobile devices, which usually have an output impedance of 32 Ohm. Large HiFi headphones are optimized for much more powerfull amplifiers and so have an impedance of 250 Ohm or even more. This results in much lower volume, if high impedance headphones are used on mobile devices like phones, notebooks or MP3 players.
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Hmm, didn't know that. Still doesn't explain why my headphones worked amazingly with my old iPhone but terrible with this. :c Not that I bought these headphones for taking out and about, rather bulky. Might hafta buy some others..
A further reason is, that the SGS2 has lower maximum volume, than several competitors ... seems to be limited by software.
Download Poweramp from the market ... it's worth every cent, but there's also a time limited demo. This app has a nice preamp, which allows you to raise the overall volume and it's equalizer is also very good.
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Yeah, I gathered as when I used a similar app called Volume+ I found it quite capable of better sound. That's why I'd like some help with changing the Samsung audio settings. I know my way around them, but there's so many opions and changeable things I'm not sure what to do. I'll give Poweramp a look.
I use Ogg Vorbis (224 bitrate) songs with this app combined with an AKG K319, the best mobile headphones I ever tried ... much better than even most big Sennheisers ... that being said from a former Sennheiser fan For home HiFi I recommend Beyerdynamic DT880 or DT990. Try these headphones and you'll sell your Sennheiser
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So cannot be arsed getting OGG versions ofall my music. xD And having to re-tag it all. If OGGs can even be tagged and have art. But yeah, way too much effort but I don't doubt you.
And don't use Metallica for testing ... their records are highly compressed ... complete junk from an accustically perspective, because all dynamics are compressed away. Google for "audio compressor" and you'll understand.
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Perhaps. But they're loud songs nonetheless, particularly the live ones. I can certainly hear the difference. Way too quiet on the SGS2. :c
rab1412000 said:
i use a combination of poweramp with a 'smiley face' or 'rocl' equalizer setting and volume+ with +3 and good quality equalizer settings.
makes my koss portapros truly shine in terms of volume and clarity.
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Using more than one app is even more than my not wanting to use one in the first place. Certainly wouldn't help battery life, as this all only matters when I'm travelling long distance and need music.
There are 2 microphones on the sgs2. One is on the bottom edge and one is on the top edge. The bottom one is for regular calls and is broken on your phone. The top one is for speakerphone, which is obviously working.
I suggest returning your phone under warranty as the volume issue is not normal either.
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Electroz said:
There are 2 microphones on the sgs2. One is on the bottom edge and one is on the top edge. The bottom one is for regular calls and is broken on your phone. The top one is for speakerphone, which is obviously working.
I suggest returning your phone under warranty as the volume issue is not normal either.
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They're not broken as such because as stated I was able to fiddle with some settings and get normal calls working fine, it just lost those settings after a reset. Some sort of firmware fault, I've heard of cases where people had the same issue back on the original SGS.
I could never get the warranty going. Samsung's website wouldn't recognise it at all. Never got around to trying to start the warranty manually. Probably too late now.
Also, to those who recommended Poweramp; I'm impressed. that's not a bad work around actually. Shame it doesn't have playlist support though.
EDIT: Oh, it does! perfect little app, thanks guys. Now I just need to find settings to fix my in-call volume issue then I'm all set.
Rizaria said:
Using more than one app is even more than my not wanting to use one in the first place. Certainly wouldn't help battery life, as this all only matters when I'm travelling long distance and need music.
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volume+ has no perceptible hit on battery life fyi
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why dont you give it a try first. you could always kill it or uninstall it if it doesnt work out for you. it has a v small memory footprint btw.
rab1412000 said:
volume+ has no perceptible hit on battery life fyi
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why dont you give it a try first. you could always kill it or uninstall it if it doesnt work out for you. it has a v small memory footprint btw.
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Ah alright, I might've imagined it. I'll use it if need-be, at least Poweramp seems to do the job as-is but thanks for the recommendation.
Rizaria said:
Hmm, didn't know that. Still doesn't explain why my headphones worked amazingly with my old iPhone but terrible with this. :c Not that I bought these headphones for taking out and about, rather bulky. Might hafta buy some others..
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thats what you call impedance mismatch.
for example, my woodees in-ear sound excellent on an iphone/ipod. in fact, it is a match to a bose QC15 any day. however it sounds muffled on my laptop and sgs2.
its the complete opposite with my koss portapros which sound amazing on my laptops and sgs2 and sound just ok on the ipod.
there is most probably nothing wrong with both your headphones and phone, but just keep this in mind. it is one reason why certain audiophiles have more than one iem.
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forgot about your in-call issues, yes that could be a hardware problem.
rab1412000 said:
thats what you call impedance mismatch.
for example, my woodees in-ear sound excellent on an iphone/ipod. in fact, it is a match to a bose QC15 any day. however it sounds muffled on my laptop and sgs2.
its the complete opposite with my koss portapros which sound amazing on my laptops and sgs2 and sound just ok on the ipod.
there is most probably nothing wrong with both your headphones and phone, but just keep this in mind. it is one reason why certain audiophiles have more than one iem.
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What a pain in the arse. :c Had no idea audio could be so damn complicated.
At least Poweramp seems to make things loud enough. Might have to invest in some more portable headphones in the future though.
personally, id try to get your in-call volume issues sorted out first.
that just isnt right and could indeed point to a h/w defect.
rab1412000 said:
personally, id try to get your in-call volume issues sorted out first.
that just isnt right and could indeed point to a h/w defect.
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That basically is all I need sorting now. The underlying problem of the music volume may not be fixed, but the apps suggested here get around it fine.
I still don't think it was a hardware defect as I really did have it fixed at one point. Stupid reset. I think it's some semi-unique firm/software issue I have.
Rizaria said:
Had no idea audio could be so damn complicated.
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That's the downside of the MP3 age ... most people don't know nothing about audio quality and what's worse, they don't know what they missed so far.
There are several lessons to learn:
1. MP3 sucks even at highest bitrate, because frequencies above 15 KHz are cut off and basses are always distorted if the music is a bit louder. If you have good audio hardware, MP3 sounds much worse than a good Audio CD.
2. Ogg Vorbis is a good compromise for mobile use compared to Flac with it's extremly large files. If you rip a CD with quality setting Q=7 (224 kbit) you won't hear a difference to the CD except when using a DDD recording on a high end HiFi home sytem and having yourself very trained ears And what's also nice is, the file size is similar to MP3.
And yes, you can use album art with Ogg ... embed it with Media Monkey on PC or if you rip a complete album to a folder, just place a JPG in that folder which has the same file name as the album title. Both Media Monkey and the SGS2 will show it (no matter if stock player or Poweramp). No need to mention, that all MP3 tags also can be embedded in Ogg.
3. Good audio hardware is needed ... and though the stock volume is a bit low on the SGS2, it's Yamaha audio engine is quite good. But the stock audio player is crap. It's impossible to get good equalization without distortion in the bass bands. But Poweramp solves this problem, if you set it up correctly.
So all that is missing now is a good headphone. The best mobile headphone with correct impedance you can get below 100$ nowadays is the AKG K319 ... though it ships with a hardcase and has fantastic sound, it's not very popular or let's say not well known, so you can get it really cheap ... got it for only 25 Euros
But if you are a bass junkie, the Koss Porta Pro might be the better choice. It has a little bit more bass response as the AKG, but is more bulky and can't compete with the AKG's sound "crispness" in middle and high frequency bands.
Conclusion: After already switching to Poweramp, Ogg and a good mobile headphone will give give you a second WOW effect
Aymara said:
Conclusion: After already switching to Poweramp, Ogg and a good mobile headphone will give give you a second WOW effect
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Very interesting. I knew some of that, but not quite to that extent. Regardless though, the sheer time it'd take me to replace my songs..ugh, I shudder at the thought. Also I prefer mp3 and m4a for cross-system compatibility and iTunes use. Still my fave way of organising and listening to music I'm almost ashamed to say.
That being said, I installed Winamp just for transferring my music and playlists onto my SGS2 properly.
I'll keep the headphones in mind, but Poweramp itself solves the bulk of that problem. x3 Now if only I could fix my major problem.
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Also I prefer mp3 and m4a for cross-system compatibility and iTunes use.
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MP3 will die over time, not only because it sounds horrible. The main reason are the licence fees, devs and manufacturers have to pay ... Ogg on the other hand is free ... did you notice, that nearly all newer devices suport Ogg?
It can understand, that switching a large archive to Ogg can be a lot of work, but it's zero hassle to use Ogg for new material.
I highly recommend to compare the sound quality.
Now if only I could fix my major problem.
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You mentioned, that you found a fix, but a reboot resets it. Do you use the latest firmware or a custom ROM?
Aymara said:
MP3 will die over time, not only because it sounds horrible. The main reason are the licence fees, devs and manufacturers have to pay ... Ogg on the other hand is free ... did you notice, that nearly all newer devices suport Ogg?
It can understand, that switching a large archive to Ogg can be a lot of work, but it's zero hassle to use Ogg for new material.
I highly recommend to compare the sound quality.
You mentioned, that you found a fix, but a reboot resets it. Do you use the latest firmware or a custom ROM?
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Yeah, I don't doubt it. Gotta love that open source. I might investigate more into ogg files when I have more spare time.
As for the firmware, I believe I updated to a latest one. At least I don't think it was custom, looked the same as the stock, stupid TouchWiz and all. Only updated to root it basically. 'Cause I think my stock rom was an Optus mutated version basically, so couldn't root it. Something like that.
Lets check the settings..hmm...Android Version: 2.3.3, Baseband Version: I9100XXKDJ, Kernel Version: 2.6.35.7-I9100XWEK2-CL187606 [email protected] #2, Build Number: GINGERBREAD.XWKE2.
That's all I know.
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I might investigate more into ogg files when I have more spare time.
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One last word about Ogg ... it's only superior to MP3 at 224 KBit and above!
At least I don't think it was custom, ...
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You think? Where did you get it from? I only updated by OTA ... staying stock so far.
maybe 2.3.5 will fix that
Aymara said:
One last word about Ogg ... it's only superior to MP3 at 224 KBit and above!
You think? Where did you get it from? I only updated by OTA ... staying stock so far.
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I tend to only have MP3s above 192kbps, mostly higher, so I guess I'll know to keep the trend for oggs.
And yes, I believe so. The OTA updating thing didn't work. Again, I believe, because it was an Optus-edited firmware.
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maybe 2.3.5 will fix that
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Perhaps. If I update again does it keep my root or will I have to do that again?
EDIT: Okay, Poweramp works fine, and I also see types of headphones are to blame. Like the earphones that came with the phone are fine. They have 3 notches on the plug as opposed to 2. I'd say that's a fair indication. Anyway, can consider this problem solved.
Also I've been told my warranty was indeed automatic, so if I truly cannot fix the mic problem again, apparently I can send it away to get fixed. Although I guess I'll have to reset and all, hide root and all that. Don't even know how, nor do I want to be phone-less, so help will still be very appreciated.
Aymara said:
But if you are a bass junkie, the Koss Porta Pro might be the better choice. It has a little bit more bass response as the AKG, but is more bulky and can't compete with the AKG's sound "crispness" in middle and high frequency bands.
Conclusion: After already switching to Poweramp, Ogg and a good mobile headphone will give give you a second WOW effect
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I agree with most everything you said except your comments on the koss portapros.
Unlike most iem's, the koss us not bass heavy and in fact shines in separation, natural sound reproduction and over all warness and crispness. It is definitely not a headphone for bass heads.
I like listening to modern music with a lot of strings and I get a lot of separation in the high frequencies.
Like i said I've compared it to a Boss quiet comfort 15 and senn 555's.
Your akg is very good too, but at a third of the price less, i personally feel the koss is a better buy.
And that's why it's design has been the same for the past 25 years
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Using the sgs2 with a high-end headphone.

I've been considering for a while to buy a good headphones and I've decided to buy an audio technica ath-m50. The only thing that is bothering me is the yamaha audio chip. If I buy those headphones, I'll be using them most of the time on my sgs2.
Will the yamaha chip make the ath-m50 sound like a cheap low-end headphone?
If you happen to own an ath-m50 I wold really appreciate it if you could measure the hollow of the earth cups, diagonally and horizontally maybe. I've read that people with large ears may find them uncomfortable. The length of my ears are just below 7cm(I don't care, they are small, my mum told me that)
I've read supercurio's analysis of the audio chip but my question still remains.
Waiting eagerly for any response.
Get an iPod nano- excellent sound quality and a great price. I hate using my GSII for music though Poweramp is a great app
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WagTwo said:
I've been considering for a while to buy a good headphones and I've decided to buy an audio technica ath-m50. The only thing that is bothering me is the yamaha audio chip. If I buy those headphones, I'll be using them most of the time on my sgs2.
Will the yamaha chip make the ath-m50 sound like a cheap low-end headphone?
If you happen to own an ath-m50 I wold really appreciate it if you could measure the hollow of the earth cups, diagonally and horizontally maybe. I've read that people with large ears may find them uncomfortable. The length of my ears are just below 7cm(I don't care, they are small, my mum told me that)
I've read supercurio's analysis of the audio chip but my question still remains.
Waiting eagerly for any response.
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Well, if you really want to use a pair of high end headphones with the galaxy sII, get a portable amp like i did. I got a fiio e7, and it powers the ath-m50just fine. Listening to them straight out of the GSII audio jack wont let them utilise their full power. And dont get an iPod if you want really high quality audio. :-/ (Just a suggestion )
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@OP go head and also look at this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1405840
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@OP go head and also look at this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1405840
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I have bought that app even though I rarely use it because for me the s2 is loud enough. I'm more worried about the quality of the sound.
WagTwo said:
I have bought that app even though I rarely use it because for me the s2 is loud enough. I'm more worried about the quality of the sound.
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It simple buddy take your handset into a store that sells these headsets and test the thing in house.
From there your should be able to make up your mind.
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It simple buddy take your handset into a store that sells these headsets and test the thing in house.
From there your should be able to make up your mind.
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I've thought of this, the only problem is finding a store that sells the audio technica ath-m50. I live in London I'm sure there is plenty of stores.
However this would not be much help because I'm not very experienced with high end headphones, so probably almost anything will sound good to me.
If you want to listen to boom boom music with heavy bass then the SGS2 is inadequate .Expensive headphones are not going to do that much .
However as a user who does not have any boom boom music i find stock player headphones or slightly upmarket low end Sennheiser headphones fine .
Power Amp for me strangely lowers sound output level .
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I've the same experience as JJEgan with Power Amp. It seems to boost dynamic range at the sacrifice of overall volume.
For getting the best out of high-end headphones, you could always try Neutron Music Player from Android Market. It claims to use its own "32-bit audio music rendering core", although it's debatable whether this makes a difference, given that uncompressed CDs only have 16-bits per sample. People seem to like it, though.
Just recently I noticed something when listening to music using Poweramp with a headphone.
When you click on something such as the app drawer, the volume of the music that you are listening to increases for fraction of a second then it goes back to normal.
It can be very annoying when you are using the phone while listening.
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Thanks for all the replies.
I've started to change my mind about buying an audio technica ath-m50, maybe I should stick with the headphones from poundland.
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Tephlon said:
I've the same experience as JJEgan with Power Amp. It seems to boost dynamic range at the sacrifice of overall volume.
For getting the best out of high-end headphones, you could always try Neutron Music Player from Android Market. It claims to use its own "32-bit audio music rendering core", although it's debatable whether this makes a difference, given that uncompressed CDs only have 16-bits per sample. People seem to like it, though.
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Tried Neutron at the weekend, and these old ears couldn't see - OK, hear - what the fuss is about. No difference from Poweramp with a very unscientific ABX on my Sennheiser IE8s.
Definitely the worst UI I've seen on any music player though - so hideous that it should win awards.
Get rockbox.
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I use studio beats by dre, they have an amp built into them and they kick bass hard, hi fi quality audio! I work in poundland and trust me their headphones don't work well with the sg2, i hope this helps
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I'm going to buy AKG K240 mk II.
I will buy a FiiO E6 with the AKG. The last tweaks will be done with DSP.
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Senn HD25-1s and Ety ER4-Ps both sound fine straight out of the headphone socket.
Using poweramp, without any eq or tone control tweaks, just ~30% crossfeed.
I read all the reports of crappy audio on the GS2, so when I got mine and tried it I was very pleasantly suprised.
Whereabouts in Poweramp settings is crossfeed...Didn't realise Poweramp supported it ?
bejay said:
Senn HD25-1s and Ety ER4-Ps both sound fine straight out of the headphone socket.
Using poweramp, without any eq or tone control tweaks, just ~30% crossfeed.
I read all the reports of crappy audio on the GS2, so when I got mine and tried it I was very pleasantly suprised.
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On the tone/vol/bal page, next to the volume control. It's labeled stereo x.
Ahhhh. So that's what Poweramp calls crossfeed. Gotcha Yeah I normally have that on around 35% with Brainwavz M3's.
Thanks for that bit of info
Edit to add - Out of thanks for the day, will hit you up later.
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On the tone/vol/bal page, next to the volume control. It's labeled stereo x.
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No problem

PowerAMP with the V20 AMAZING!!!!

Takes that Hi-Fi Audio and Quad DAC to another level... Check out PowerAMP if you have not already tune the Bass and such accordingly but damn 10% Audio for me and I hear everything like it at 35% AMAZING! Plugged into my 5 Speaker Audio System with my SubWoofer AMAZING! TRY THIS APP FOR THE ULTIMATE AUDIO EXPERIENCE ON YOUR V20!
Ive been using poweramp for 4 years. Its pretty much the ONLY good music player app. The only one that comes close to it is player pro. Def worth the 5$ for the pro version.
i bought poweramp like 4 years ago, but i never use it anymore bc of google music. maybe i should just put all my music on my card again and use it. i don't have any headphones that would trigger high impedence mode though
I used to use PowerAmp all the time on my other phones but stopped in the V20 because gapless playback doesn't work for me.
Mikekelso421 said:
Ive been using poweramp for 4 years. Its pretty much the ONLY good music player app. The only one that comes close to it is player pro. Def worth the 5$ for the pro version.
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yeah I downloaded it for like 5 minutes then bought pro LMAO after messing around with the controls for a few minutes A fell in love with it lol
jayochs said:
i bought poweramp like 4 years ago, but i never use it anymore bc of google music. maybe i should just put all my music on my card again and use it. i don't have any headphones that would trigger high impedence mode though
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I would I'm loving it!
@TheDantee, what poweramp build are you using and what are your audio settings?
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@TheDantee, what poweramp build are you using and what are your audio settings?
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The 3.0 beta and a custom one everything maxed really cause I listen to lots of bass and stuff
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@TheDantee, what poweramp build are you using and what are your audio settings?
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My test song for audio is Cloud City by Headphone Activist really captures bass and audio very well all my audio files are converted to high quality flac here are some images of my settings I'm running
I.bought it and neutron and prefer neutron, try it.
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My test song for audio is Cloud City by Headphone Activist really captures bass and audio very well all my audio files are converted to high quality flac here are some images of my settings I'm running
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didn't realize you're using an external DAC.
lgkahn said:
I.bought it and neutron and prefer neutron, try it.
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I'll give it a shot!
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didn't realize you're using an external DAC.
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Was connected to my 5 Speaker setup and the Sub I usually use headphones with the same config and it works fine however I recommend no higher than 15% volume or your ears will explode lol
I used the power amp with my 598 se and holy hell its like night and day. If I push the bass to 75 you can feel the air pushing from the drivers. I run at 50 for bass and treble and the sound is awesome. Thanks for suggesting power amp with this phone.
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Dark Jedi said:
I used the power amp with my 598 se and holy hell its like night and day. If I push the bass to 75 you can feel the air pushing from the drivers. I run at 50 for bass and treble and the sound is awesome. Thanks for suggesting power amp with this phone.
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Not a Problem just picked it up myself a few days ago after messing with it for a couple of mins I bought it and It has change my Audio Experience with this phone like you would not believe... Makes the V20 feel like a Dream!
my coworker got me this little 5 dollar Bluetooth speaker from 5 below for Xmas and using it with Poweramp, it surprisingly sounds good. EQ to add some bass and it really pumps. pretty cool for a little gift.
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This may be a dumb question, but is there a way to use Poweramp's EQ and audio settings for Spotify? I love the sound of Poweramp but all my tunes are on spotify :/
TheDantee said:
My test song for audio is Cloud City by Headphone Activist really captures bass and audio very well all my audio files are converted to high quality flac here are some images of my settings I'm running
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Christ, that can't sound good. Those EQ settings? Bass all the way up?
shaimedio said:
This may be a dumb question, but is there a way to use Poweramp's EQ and audio settings for Spotify? I love the sound of Poweramp but all my tunes are on spotify :/
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I wouldn't know man just started using it a few days ago
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Christ, that can't sound good. Those EQ settings? Bass all the way up?
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Actually sounds surprisingly well on 2 Sets of headphones and my speaker set

Low Headphone Volume

Hey guys!
So i just bought a P20 lite, switched from Iphone 6 to this new phone and I love it.
But i figured out the headphones volume (with the same headphones) is just really really really low, i tought something is wrong with my Phone, but i've tried out a few in the Retail Store, and they are the same low volume as mine. Is there any way to make it louder without Rooting? I saw a few videos on YouTube that you can go into an EngineeringMode, but it only works with the MediaTek phones.
Any ideas?
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Hey guys!
So i just bought a P20 lite, switched from Iphone 6 to this new phone and I love it.
But i figured out the headphones volume (with the same headphones) is just really really really low, i tought something is wrong with my Phone, but i've tried out a few in the Retail Store, and they are the same low volume as mine. Is there any way to make it louder without Rooting? I saw a few videos on YouTube that you can go into an EngineeringMode, but it only works with the MediaTek phones.
Any ideas?
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Don't call me names, but have you tried the obvious of choosing "Yes" when a prompt saying "Raise volume above..." When increasing the sound via volume buttons?
Grazmeister said:
Don't call me names, but have you tried the obvious of choosing "Yes" when a prompt saying "Raise volume above..." When increasing the sound via volume buttons?
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Yeah of course, it seems to be a software limitation i think. But its kinda stupid.
Where did you buy the phone?
I've been using mine and the sound outputs perfectly, even with the headphones provided. I'm able to listen to music while commuting and hearing properly while driving with my windows down
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Where did you buy the phone?
I've been using mine and the sound outputs perfectly, even with the headphones provided. I'm able to listen to music while commuting and hearing properly while driving with my windows down
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Well i bought at UPC Hungary (ISP) so its coming from a verified supplier, with Huawei warranty, now i went to huawei to fix my phone, becuase i bought a BT headphone, and it was lagging while listening to music (Music was stoping for 1-2 sec, then it was playing fast forward for a few) so right now im just waiting
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Well i bought at UPC Hungary (ISP) so its coming from a verified supplier, with Huawei warranty, now i went to huawei to fix my phone, becuase i bought a BT headphone, and it was lagging while listening to music (Music was stoping for 1-2 sec, then it was playing fast forward for a few) so right now im just waiting
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Let's hope for the best .
Hi,
I have the same "issue" with mine. Also switched from i6 and I've used OnePlus 3T as well and both of them were louder and the quality was much better than P20 lite.
Do you have any solution? (bought it from Vodafone Hungary)
You are comparing a mid-range phone with an apple flagship phone definitely the p20 lite will be a bit lower than the iphone even with high end earphones its not gonna sound like a flagship one
it has software limitation...i can increase sound by 200 and maybe 300% (did it in P8) but my phone not rooted, and i listing music through bt headsets
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You are comparing a mid-range phone with an apple flagship phone definitely the p20 lite will be a bit lower than the iphone even with high end earphones its not gonna sound like a flagship one
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Iphone 6 is not even close to a flagship phone, really old, so the comparison is i think not one sided.
I to was not happy with the volume on the P20 lite, but as pointed out, it is at a Perfect Pitch to enable you to Still listen to what is going on around you(well done Huawei), which is a very good safety precaution. The quality of the sound is very good, I can only put it down to the type and make of headphones you are using, travelling on the London tube where there is a lot of noise I prefer the Denon exercise freak in-ear (wireless), these headphones also have their own volume that block out everything, including the tube, perfect for the surroundings. But for normal everyday use I prefer wired overhead B&O h6 headphones for the quality, and being able to hear surrounding sounds is for me a must(safety is a hi feature in my life). Try Currys PC World they have a good range of headphones that are set up for testing and I'm sure you will find a set that meet your needs.

LG V30 Quad DAC issue, please help

Hello there,
I bought a LG V30 on the used market a few months ago and was using Bluetooth headphones for the majority of the time. Now I switched to wired headphones again and while the Quad DAC does offer a better sound reproduction generally, I've noticed an issue:
There's always a bit of static/buzzing in the background, especially noticeable on lower volume levels. Has anyone ever had a similar problem and knows a fix or would someone try to reproduce the issue?
I'd be happy if you'd report if you face the same issue:
1. Use wired headphones, enable HiFi mode
2. Play this -> https://youtu.be/exeRki77OMY
3. Start off at 0 volume and go up just one step at a time
When I do that, I can hear quite loud static buzzing on volume step one which decreases in loudness with every step (and the frequency of the buzzing also changed somehow).
H930 European / Stock Android 9 if that's important.
MajorD. said:
I'd be happy if you'd report if you face the same issue:
1. Use wired headphones, enable HiFi mode
2. Play this ->
3. Start off at 0 volume and go up just one step at a time
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Sounds like reverberation/base.
Not sure what it's supposed to sound like. I don't hear any static.
I'm using CCA C10. Could it be your earphones?
Edit, tried with KZ ZS10 pro
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Which headphones/IEMs are you using? And which source and player are you using?
If using very sensitive IEMs, and if you're playing 16/44 (CD quality) tracks, you may be hearing the artifacts caused by the Android Mixer. Those are particularly audible at very low levels.
Try UAPP or Neutron from Play Store. They are both able to bypass the Mixer.
You can read more about this Mixer mess in the thread linked below:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/how-to/bypassing-mixer-48khz-upsampling-16-44-t3933075
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Which headphones/IEMs are you using? And which source and player are you using?
If using very sensitive IEMs, and if you're playing 16/44 (CD quality) tracks, you may be hearing the artifacts caused by the Android Mixer. Those are particularly audible at very low levels.
Try UAPP or Neutron from Play Store. They are both able to bypass the Mixer.
You can read more about this Mixer mess in the thread linked below:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/how-to/bypassing-mixer-48khz-upsampling-16-44-t3933075
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When I'm playing a 30hz sine wave through the test version of UAPP I actually get no noise floor on lower volume levels. Interesting.
With my current Audio Technica CKR70iS it's a really severe problem in other apps and music players though. On volume steps 1-5 it's not only "noticeable", it makes up half the audio coming out my headphones.
I guess I have to ditch Phonograph as my standard music player now and buy UAPP or Neutron...
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When I'm playing a 30hz sine wave through the test version of UAPP I actually get no noise floor on lower volume levels. Interesting.
With my current Audio Technica CKR70iS it's a really severe problem in other apps and music players though. On volume steps 1-5 it's not only "noticeable", it makes up half the audio coming out my headphones.
I guess I have to ditch Phonograph as my standard music player now and buy UAPP or Neutron...
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At 19ohms impedance and 108 dB/mW sensitivity, I guess CKR70iS would reveal the Mixer artifacts -- although it's usually more with Balanced Armature IEMs that have even higher sensitivity.
But with the noise being as pronounced as you describe, I would guess that your player uses DVC (Digital Volume Control). That could cause a lot of noise at low volume levels.
The trick is the player has to convert 16/44 to 24/44 (adding zero bits) since the V30 cannot pass 16/44 directly to the DAC (so-called Direct path). That's what UAPP and Neutron do. PowerAmp can do it too, but you have to configure it manually to "resample" 16/44 to 24/44. And then you have to remember to disable that when playing HiRes.
HiRes (including anything 24-bit) plays unmolested from most apps, including LG Music and even Google Music. Qobuz and Amazon HD resample to 48 Khz no matter what you do (last I checked). Tidal is OK with HiRes (which they deliver as MQA) but all Tidal 16/44 tracks (non-MQA) must be played through UAPP. Spotify you can just forget it.
UAPP is the best $8 any audiophile V30 user can spend. Some people don't like its user interface. I personally like it -- but hate the Neutron UI. Everybody is different in that regard.
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UAPP is the best $8 any audiophile V30 user can spend. Some people don't like its user interface. I personally like it -- but hate the Neutron UI. Everybody is different in that regard.
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UAPP is awesome. I agree. I'm actually 1 of those people who hate the UI. I find PA to be the most user friendly when looking to change albums, tracks or artist.
It's pure guesstures. UAPP, you have to actually click buttons. Kinda annoying.
My dream player would be PA UI or UX, ( not sure what the difference is) with the sound quality of UAPP.
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UAPP is awesome. I agree. I'm actually 1 of those people who hate the UI. I find PA to be the most user friendly when looking to change albums, tracks or artist.
It's pure guesstures. UAPP, you have to actually click buttons. Kinda annoying.
My dream player would be PA UI or UX, ( not sure what the difference is) with the sound quality of UAPP.
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LOL I was thinking of you when I wrote that sentence
Between the two sound quality kings (Neutron and UAPP) I think the UI to hate would be Neutron.
Lots of people like the PowerAmp UI. But as you know, it is trickier to obtain bit-perfect play from it.
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LOL I was thinking of you when I wrote that sentence
Between the two sound quality kings (Neutron and UAPP) I think the UI to hate would be Neutron.
Lots of people like the PowerAmp UI. But as you know, it is trickier to obtain bit-perfect play from it.
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Ha!
UAPP is king of sound. I only use it when I'm home. When I'm out I use PA.
So basically since this stupid lockdown I'm drunk 24/7 with my tunes on UAPP
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Also an edit, stay safe everyone. My girl and I had the Chinaflu. It affected her to the point she could not breathe.
My aunt's brother died from it and my cousin's 2 friends in Brooklyn died as well.
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Ha!
UAPP is king of sound. I only use it when I'm home. When I'm out I use PA.
So basically since this stupid lockdown I'm drunk 24/7 with my tunes on UAPP
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Also an edit, stay safe everyone. My girl and I had the Chinaflu. It affected her to the point she could not breathe.
My aunt's brother died from it and my cousin's 2 friends in Brooklyn died as well.
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Wow, sorry to hear that. I'm glad you and your girlfriend made it through. Hopefully the immunity thing works so you're now safe.
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Wow, sorry to hear that. I'm glad you and your girlfriend made it through. Hopefully the immunity thing works so you're now safe.
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Thanks man!
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