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Sony is the only Android phone brand I haven't tried yet, but I'm ready to jump as I like how Sony unlocks bootloader and updates their phones and I like their camera sensors.
I do have a few questions which couldn't be addressed after my visits to pdadb.net and sony's own web-site which hopefully current Xperia P owners can clarify for me, so in no apparent order:
1. Does Xperia P use the sim or the micro-sim?
2. Does the FM radio work on any of the leaked ICS builds for Xperia P?
3. Is the Sony's camera app same as the stock android app or does it make use of the sensor features allowing me to shoot HDR photos and maybe more?
4. How bright is the charging/notification light at night (I've read the topic it can be disabled, but I'm wondering how bright it is if I left it on)?
5. Has anyone been able to link to GLONASS satellites with the built-in chip? I've found contradicting reports that Xperia P chip should support GLONASS, but I'd like to be sure.
6. Do the Sony's own GB/ICS roms include UI in all languages or are they limited by the region?
7. Is the Sony "scratch-resistant" glass actually a Gorilla glass?
8. Is the Sony bloatware in any way useful if you haven't used the Sony media services before and have no intention of paying for them?
Thanks!
stangri said:
Sony is the only Android phone brand I haven't tried yet, but I'm ready to jump as I like how Sony unlocks bootloader and updates their phones and I like their camera sensors.
I do have a few questions which couldn't be addressed after my visits to pdadb.net and sony's own web-site which hopefully current Xperia P owners can clarify for me, so in no apparent order:
1. Does Xperia P use the sim or the micro-sim?
2. Does the FM radio work on any of the leaked ICS builds for Xperia P?
3. Is the Sony's camera app same as the stock android app or does it make use of the sensor features allowing me to shoot HDR photos and maybe more?
4. How bright is the charging/notification light at night (I've read the topic it can be disabled, but I'm wondering how bright it is if I left it on)?
5. Has anyone been able to link to GLONASS satellites with the built-in chip? I've found contradicting reports that Xperia P chip should support GLONASS, but I'd like to be sure.
6. Do the Sony's own GB/ICS roms include UI in all languages or are they limited by the region?
7. Is the Sony "scratch-resistant" glass actually a Gorilla glass?
8. Is the Sony bloatware in any way useful if you haven't used the Sony media services before and have no intention of paying for them?
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1) MicroSIM
2) What leaked ICS builds? If you can link me to it please.
3) It has more features, but no HDR
4) After my HTC Desire (that could light up half the room), the Xperia S doesn't bother me at all. Since to be the same LEDs, so it should be fine.
5) Not sure on that, it's an ST-Ericsson U8500, check the specs
6) All LTR languages, like any Android builds
7) No, but it's good enough for me not to care
8) The non uninstallable part is quite useful if you like Sony stuff like Timescape
Thanks for replies.
2 -- I thought there would have been leaks for Xperia P ICS by now, I must have been mistaken.
5 -- Thanks for letting me know the exact chip, but still it says that support for GLONASS *can* be enabled, doesn't say if Sony has actually implemented it. I guess I'll find out sooner or later.
OK, I have two more questions.
9. Warranty page at Sony's web-site says that I need to bring it to the service centre in the country of purchase and the phone must have been purchased from the authorized reseller. I intend to get the phone on ebay as it's cheapest and 4-6 months a year I spend almost half the world away from where I live. Has anyone had an incident where they needed to get the phone fixed outside of country of purchase?
10. I've read online that the 1080p video made by the Xperia P camera is actually upscaled 720p video which is bumming me out as a kick-ass camera a must have for me. If anyone can provide me with the links where I can read up more on the Xperia P video shooting I'd be grateful.
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Thanks for replies.
2 -- I thought there would have been leaks for Xperia P ICS by now, I must have been mistaken.
5 -- Thanks for letting me know the exact chip, but still it says that support for GLONASS *can* be enabled, doesn't say if Sony has actually implemented it. I guess I'll find out sooner or later.
OK, I have two more questions.
9. Warranty page at Sony's web-site says that I need to bring it to the service centre in the country of purchase and the phone must have been purchased from the authorized reseller. I intend to get the phone on ebay as it's cheapest and 4-6 months a year I spend almost half the world away from where I live. Has anyone had an incident where they needed to get the phone fixed outside of country of purchase?
10. I've read online that the 1080p video made by the Xperia P camera is actually upscaled 720p video which is bumming me out as a kick-ass camera a must have for me. If anyone can provide me with the links where I can read up more on the Xperia P video shooting I'd be grateful.
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5 - from my quick look it seems to be on
9 - that's the standard warranty claim, not much you can do about it
10 - not sure about that, but seems unlikely
10 -- well, some swedish web-site claimed that and they posted a video on youtube. I don't have an eye to tell upscaled 720p video from the true 1080p, so I'm not sure.
I do have a question about the camera tho. I've been reading comparison between the Xperia S and SGSIII cameras and while the Sammy has the HDR setting in the camera app, the Sony doesn't. The images taken by Sony phone were much more vivid and colourful: http://www.phonearena.com/reviews/Samsung-Galaxy-S-III-vs-Sony-Xperia-S_id3048/page/3
Is that maybe because they use some sort of the HDR equivalent all the time?
stangri said:
10 -- well, some swedish web-site claimed that and they posted a video on youtube. I don't have an eye to tell upscaled 720p video from the true 1080p, so I'm not sure.
I do have a question about the camera tho. I've been reading comparison between the Xperia S and SGSIII cameras and while the Sammy has the HDR setting in the camera app, the Sony doesn't. The images taken by Sony phone were much more vivid and colourful: http://www.phonearena.com/reviews/Samsung-Galaxy-S-III-vs-Sony-Xperia-S_id3048/page/3
Is that maybe because they use some sort of the HDR equivalent all the time?
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Hello
im first S3 user and past about 56 smartphones in 4 years (yeah that much) most of them were Camera-phones.
after my S1/S2/ IPHONE 4S/Xperia S Camera-phones i'v noticed something really annoying in the Camera department
of the S3..:silly:
when i doing the "touch to focus" the light in the area not changing.
for example : if i shooting a landscape and i focus the ground it stay's dark until I'm moving the camera away to the ground.
also when shooting at dawn/sunrise until i move the camera completely from the light source i cant take a decent photo
because it makes it too dark and focusing in other area in the scene does not help.
Like the exposure not changing at all..
took my GF SAMSUNG S2 and a HTC ONE X and guess what? i can focus in verity of areas without any problem
and take great shots in sunny scenes,took an iPhone 4S and also without any problems.
also used HDR but it does not seems to work ether
what can cause the problem?
i described as much as i can..hope that you can figure "what the heck that guy want from us"
someone?
same for me
It seems that here is happening the same.. I haven't realized that so far, I'm paying more attention now
try a different app like camera zoom fx. I won't post th link as posting of paid app is not allowed on XDA.
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Im not using a 3rd party apps but I'v try'd out and no change at all..
Thanks for the reply m8
60fps works see this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/nex...fps-video-recording-libchanger-t3424621/page3
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Attached a modified version of the Camera2video sample from Google as I don't have a camera 2 device I'm attaching a test apk set to 120fps I wanna see if its working if working the camera driver is modifiable to output 120fps 1080p from that we could set fps range to 60,60
Two part test if preview running at 120fps and if recording working
Log cat the test also if any error occurs
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A little bit of punctuation... I understood nothing.
Nexus 6P with Chroma rocks!
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A little bit of punctuation... I understood nothing.
Nexus 6P with Chroma rocks!
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Done basically install the apk see if it works or not
You should change "60p" to "60 fps". I think you're confusing vertical resolution with fps.
Regardless, I'm glad we're talking about this. 30 fps video is dumb and objectively much worse than 60 fps. Google's priorities here are totally wrong.
Btw, video preview is running at around 5-10 fps, and app FCs when you start recording. That's on a non-rooted 6.0.1.
I totally agree, having 120/240 fps options but 1080p60 has been left out?
Thats really, REALLY stupid. Ive been wanting something like this since launch, too bad most people dont care for it - otherwise I'm sure google would have done it way earlier.
iRub1Out said:
I totally agree, having 120/240 fps options but 1080p60 has been left out?
Thats really, REALLY stupid. Ive been wanting something like this since launch, too bad most people dont care for it - otherwise I'm sure google would have done it way earlier.
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You are mistaken, google doesn't care for it either.
Which, reading their reply, is total BS.
Theyre focusing on making it stable? They've had more than enough time to do that, it's plenty stable - given their resources and the fact that they designed it on their own platform. Not to mention the existence of 120/240 fps making it painfully obvious that this is either laziness or an oversight (neither are excusable) for not having included a 60fps option, my S5 had that for gods sake, a phone that launched in April of '14 had this ability. Along with each successor to the Galaxy line, iphones, LG, I cant think of a flagship that can't do it?
Maybe I'm (we're?) in the minority in believing that it's pathetic to have a phone with the capabilities this one does, but lacks a function that very few - if any - new phones also lack that would really make the videos taken on the device a lot better. I'ts getting frustrating that Google, and the Nexus brand, are supposed to be top of the line and cutting edge - for the most part - but have, seemingly on purpose, chosen to exclude some of the key desirable components that customers want. Wireless charging (i know it was left out to make it thinner) but still... and these were two things I really hoped for, I think the 6P was a step in the wrong direction. Huawei really treated me like **** when they sent me the wrong 6P (the bastard model that excluded band 10 for some dumb reason) and refused to allow me to exchange or return it no matter what.
If Huawei makes the 2016 Nexus, I will gladly wash my hands of it, there's no way that company will ever get my business again.
I think you guys are mistaken here, its not like nexus is the only one without 1080p 60fps, out of all latest flagships only s7 can record 1080p 60fps, htc 10, lg g5, oneplus 3, mi 5 and so on also cant record 60fps, only 30
I've pushed modified blob and app source to git @ https://github.com/defcomk/c2Vid as stated I have no camera 2 device so I go by logcats .
Anyway the source is there added some log lines as from the crash I could not see what exactly caused the crash
feis said:
I think you guys are mistaken here, its not like nexus is the only one without 1080p 60fps, out of all latest flagships only s7 can record 1080p 60fps, htc 10, lg g5, oneplus 3, mi 5 and so on also cant record 60fps, only 30
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From the leaked Qualcomm camera source code it looks like 60fps comes part of most libs and oems remove them for what reason I dunno but if you can find a device with same sensor and 60fps all that is needed is the registers for timmings and clocks and res entry but the later can be calculated.
There is hope for LG G5/One Plus 3/Mi5
HTC I tried but could only get it to 40fps in camera 1 mode Camera 2 mode the target fps range stuff maxed out at 30 perhaps when ae turned off in full manual it will work .in Camera 1 mode its another mess by htc where they broke qualcom video-hfr parameter in favour of their own video-mode which seems like a copy paste job from htc one m9 half then they broke it.
I patched hal as far as to allow fps range up to 120fps but the code that switches between the different sensor out put res mode was crippled.
I dunno if Camera2 was intended to even support 60p the only method I see is using HighSpeedCapture mode which only recognizes >=120 .
So in the blob pushed to git 1080p is set to max fps of 120 so it shows up in The high-speed mode .
In the root of the repo is text file showing imx377 configs
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Oh yeah I know. I get where youre coming from for sure and I agree. It is a shame more dont do implement it. I dont think there should be hate directed towards them alone for it, many companies do not take advantage of the full hardware ability. I do wish they would implement it already though. Both the n6 and n6p and the capability but they dont take advantage of it. If they ever release a explanation as to why, id be all ears.
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Oh yeah I know. I get where youre coming from for sure and I agree. It is a shame more dont do implement it. I dont think there should be hate directed towards them alone for it, many companies do not take advantage of the full hardware ability. I do wish they would implement it already though. Both the n6 and n6p and the capability but they dont take advantage of it. If they ever release a explanation as to why, id be all ears.
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They kinda did release an explanation, dont remember word by word, but sounded something like they dont really care about 60fps, all they care about is stability, performance, bug free expirience and start up time of camera app. So i guess they suspect these things could get worse if 60fps was implemented. Oh and if samsung can do it, so should others, unless samsung has some kind of superior developers, of which i really doubt lol
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They kinda did release an explanation, dont remember word by word, but sounded something like they dont really care about 60fps, all they care about is stability, performance, bug free expirience and start up time of camera app. So i guess they suspect these things could get worse if 60fps was implemented. Oh and if samsung can do it, so should others, unless samsung has some kind of superior developers, of which i really doubt lol
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I mean most people complain about slow start times of the camera on tge n6p anyway so I'd hate to see it slowed even further. While Samsung isn't exactly the best developers, they have a massive amount of devs I'm sure. But I still agree. If they can do it, Google and others should be able to also.
Just to clarify, my dislike for Huawei stems far beyond this issue. I will link to the thread (if anyone wants it) where I outline the month-long ordeal where they constantly lied to me about having a tech call me back, refunding my purchase, allowing me to return my 128GB 6P - all because they sent me the A2 style 6P, not the A1 style which everyone else on this continent got, and I purchased 4 other identical 6Ps in that same order, but one was a bastard model that lacked band 10, a band that is necessary for it to work for me on USCC (works on everyone else though) - Google NEVER sold the A2 style, only the A1 (which included band 10) and works perfectly fine. Of the 4 phones purchased, 3 were the A1 style, 1 was the A2 style, and this was never an option when ordered since...there was never more than 1 style that was publically known. They gave me a phone with missing hardware, refused to replace/return/rectify the situation in any form.
Anyway, THATS why I will never do business with them again. Their CS is absolute bull**** and they lie to their customers when they have legitimate issues that THEY caused.
The 60fps issue is on Google, it would be sweet to have, and I can't see any reasonable logic to not including it with the app on the phone? Thats all.
Cleaned up the bickering, let's all play nicely together please.
Hope you have a good day!
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defcomg said:
Attached a modified version of the Camera2video sample from Google,
as I don't have a camera 2 device to test I'm attaching a test apk below
FPS is set 120fps I wanna see if its working , if working the camera driver is modifiable to output 120fps 1080p.
With 120fps 1080p we could set fps range to 60,60 allowing 60p video.
This is a Two part test .
A) if preview running at 120fps
B)if video recording is working
Logcat the test if any error occurs
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CyberZeus_Viva said:
A little bit of punctuation... I understood nothing.
Nexus 6P with Chroma rocks!
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i still don't understand what the apk is supposed to do. does it modify the camera app? does it replace the camera app? does it introduce a new fps mode? did you modify the 120fps mode to be 60fps even though the option still says 120fps?
shuckeru said:
i still don't understand what the apk is supposed to do. does it modify the camera app? does it replace the camera app? does it introduce a new fps mode? did you modify the 120fps mode to be 60fps even though the option still says 120fps?
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I do believe thats what he's saying, his mod would (if the hardware is capable of it) allow 1080p video to be shot at 120 fps. The app wouldnt change or have an additional option, what would happen is when you select 120fps it would default to 1080p rather than 720p.
Basically, if this works then he now knows how to correctly mod the file to function with the phone without crashing and bugging out, this is something that until now only LCamera was capable of, but the development of that has come to a grinding halt. If this works, then he knows how to add, remove, change values in the camera software to allow 1080p60, 1080p120, 4k60 and potentially more - although the bandwidth for 4k30 is quite high, if the phone is capable of 1080p120 then it theoretically is capable of a hell of a lot more than what BS options Google has in it now.
BTW, found THIS thread, where a google rep dances around others who want this, making **** up as to why this wasnt implemented in the first place and how they dont plan to add it.
I'll test this in just a sec and report back, need to update my rom anyway, so idc if it borks the camera.
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Tried flashing the zip, that didnt work - extracted zip, will try installing the apk. Will advise.
EDIT 2:
App opens, video passthrough is laggy - very laggy, when i hit record, it closes the app, and now it wont open back up. :/
shuckeru said:
i still don't understand what the apk is supposed to do. does it modify the camera app? does it replace the camera app? does it introduce a new fps mode? did you modify the 120fps mode to be 60fps even though the option still says 120fps?
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does it modify the camera app? no
does it replace the camera app? also, no
does it introduce a new fps mode? yes
did you modify the 120fps mode to be 60fps even though the option still says 120fps? It's more complicated than that, and OP is still working things out.
iRub1Out said:
I do believe thats what he's saying, his mod would (if the hardware is capable of it) allow 1080p video to be shot at 120 fps. The app wouldnt change or have an additional option, what would happen is when you select 120fps it would default to 1080p rather than 720p.
Basically, if this works then he now knows how to correctly mod the file to function with the phone without crashing and bugging out, this is something that until now only LCamera was capable of, but the development of that has come to a grinding halt. If this works, then he knows how to add, remove, change values in the camera software to allow 1080p60, 1080p120, 4k60 and potentially more - although the bandwidth for 4k30 is quite high, if the phone is capable of 1080p120 then it theoretically is capable of a hell of a lot more than what BS options Google has in it now.
BTW, found THIS thread, where a google rep dances around others who want this, making **** up as to why this wasnt implemented in the first place and how they dont plan to add it.
I'll test this in just a sec and report back, need to update my rom anyway, so idc if it borks the camera.
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Tried flashing the zip, that didnt work - extracted zip, will try installing the apk. Will advise.
EDIT 2:
App opens, video passthrough is laggy - very laggy, when i hit record, it closes the app, and now it wont open back up. :/
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-That app was created for another device so the lag is expected and Yes defcomk is creating a software mod and will enable the FPS we deserve. some good progress but nothing solid yet. (patience)
-This won't bork your camera lol
-Regarding L Camera, it was capable but was more of a test being that it got the job done on the Nexus 5 but with lot's of sacrifices and such. hence the reason it was more of a way of just testing camera 2 api. The IMX377 sensor on our phone is more than capable but defcomk is still deep in testing.
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App opens, video passthrough is laggy - very laggy, when i hit record, it closes the app, and now it wont open back up. :/
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well, it does this for me too which is unfortunate.
I don't really understand what's the problem? Can't someone just make a camera app that records at 120fps and just saves one frame and throws away the other? There you go 60fps.
Or you could edit the video yourself and remove every second frame?
Hello everyone,
I consider buying Mate 10 pro and I am torn by many of the posts here about the phone / live review results.
After reading many good reviews I have now few doubts and would like to make a post that will gather your (those who own Mate 10 / pro) experience with the phone.
I am obvisouly aware there are already reports on such topics in the live review section but I believe (and hope) that stuff have changed due to the AI learning the user
daily uses and Huawei updates.
Few key features / questions I personally would love to hear from you about are:
Always on display - does it still working only with huawei native apps?
Lock screen notification - after unlocking does the notification dismiss from the lock screen?
Lags / over heat - Do you encounter them on daily use? how smooth the experience is compare to other flasgships?
Youtube + message app bug - there is a post on the forum about the phone locking it self if you get message when you view youtube in full window mode, did it
got fixed with update?
Does the bluetooth / gps / wifi work well?
its just a few points I would love answers to but you welcome to offer any insight about the phone, cons and pros after using it for a while.
Have a wonderful day =)
yotam2010 said:
Hello everyone,
I consider buying Mate 10 pro and I am torn by many of the posts here about the phone / live review results.
After reading many good reviews I have now few doubts and would like to make a post that will gather your (those who own Mate 10 / pro) experience with the phone.
I am obvisouly aware there are already reports on such topics in the live review section but I believe (and hope) that stuff have changed due to the AI learning the user
daily uses and Huawei updates.
Few key features / questions I personally would love to hear from you about are:
Always on display - does it still working only with huawei native apps?
Lock screen notification - after unlocking does the notification dismiss from the lock screen?
Lags / over heat - Do you encounter them on daily use? how smooth the experience is compare to other flasgships?
Youtube + message app bug - there is a post on the forum about the phone locking it self if you get message when you view youtube in full window mode, did it
got fixed with update?
Does the bluetooth / gps / wifi work well?
its just a few points I would love answers to but you welcome to offer any insight about the phone, cons and pros after using it for a while.
Have a wonderful day =)
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1) Yes, so far only works with Huawei apps
2)Yes
3)Never encountered these issues, no lag or overheating here, not even when charging.
4)Never had this problem
5)All working fine here (5Ghz wifi too). GPS is fast and accurate. I don't use Bluetooth very often, but i did some tests with file transfer and headset, no problem here.
I could answer from the 3rd point
No overheat at all and performance is really good only some minor stutter every now and then like every Android phone
GPS and wifi and Bluetooth are always working correctly for me
I don't encounter YouTube problem at all.
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I want to update that I just received firmware 128 from a couple of hours ago and till now even any small stutter is gone :laugh::good:
Pretoriano80 said:
1) Yes, so far only works with Huawei apps
2)Yes
3)Never encountered these issues, no lag or overheating here, not even when charging.
4)Never had this problem
5)All working fine here (5Ghz wifi too). GPS is fast and accurate. I don't use Bluetooth very often, but i did some tests with file transfer and headset, no problem here.
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Mohamad Gahed said:
I could answer from the 3rd point
No overheat at all and performance is really good only some minor stutter every now and then like every Android phone
GPS and wifi and Bluetooth are always working correctly for me
I don't encounter YouTube problem at all.
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I want to update that I just received firmware 128 from a couple of hours ago and till now even any small stutter is gone :laugh::good:
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Thank you both for your answers, gives me some comfort!
Sadly, I believe there is no current "perfect" phone in the market and I am having real trouble deciding if to go for the Galaxy S8, htc u11+ or Huawei mate 10 pro.
Is there any bugs / cons on Huawei mate 10 pro software that should be highlighted in your opinion?
Honestly I understand your question and in the same time, I'm bored about these questions...
Phone is very great... Best phone I have ever had...
Not overheating incredible battery life and marvelous experience... For me.
Of course, it isn't perfect. As any phone..
Read reviews and decide...
Cheers
I'm curious about something, does the Pro support using the fingerprint sensor as navigation, similar to the standard Mate 10 and the Honor View 10?
It'd probably be a little more unorthodox as it's located on the back but that's possibly the only way I'd consider getting it even. Not an AMOLED fan.
Sammae7 said:
I'm curious about something, does the Pro support using the fingerprint sensor as navigation, similar to the standard Mate 10 and the Honor View 10?
It'd probably be a little more unorthodox as it's located on the back but that's possibly the only way I'd consider getting it even. Not an AMOLED fan.
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Yes it does, to scroll in the gallerie, and open and close notification/shorcuts tray
Sammae7 said:
Not an AMOLED fan.
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WTF !!!! Oo I've always been in love with amoled
yotam2010 said:
Always on display - does it still working only with huawei native apps?
Lock screen notification - after unlocking does the notification dismiss from the lock screen?
Lags / over heat - Do you encounter them on daily use? how smooth the experience is compare to other flasgships?
Youtube + message app bug - there is a post on the forum about the phone locking it self if you get message when you view youtube in full window mode, did it got fixed with update?
Does the bluetooth / gps / wifi work well?
its just a few points I would love answers to but you welcome to offer any insight about the phone, cons and pros after using it for a while.
Have a wonderful day =)
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It's my first Huawei, and I've read a lot also before buying it, and I've been happily surprised:
3- I never got it hot (netflix for hours ....). I got it "warm" and I insist on warm because it really wasn't hot (especially compared to my previous phones) once when I was doing google Duo + fast charging. And about the lags, nope.
4- Never got this issue.
5- Bluetooth, wifi (5ghz, 2,4ghz, hotspot...). For the GPS I only used it in Hong-Kong atm, and with the ****ing density of buildings, it was not really accurate, but not worse than the other phones. Once outside the city it was working very well.
For the other things :
- The rear camera is very good ! I will need a tripod for night shoots, because in night mode (or manual) you can increase the shutter time.
- I really like EMUI (usually I always flash cyanogen/lineage)
- The infrared : I noticed that I use it all the time to control my AC and TV ^^
- The sound could be better : you easily block it with your hands, and what they call "stereo" ... is quite bad because the other speaker is not as loud as the one at the bottom.
yotam2010 said:
Thank you both for your answers, gives me some comfort!
Sadly, I believe there is no current "perfect" phone in the market and I am having real trouble deciding if to go for the Galaxy S8, htc u11+ or Huawei mate 10 pro.
Is there any bugs / cons on Huawei mate 10 pro software that should be highlighted in your opinion?
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If you like snappy smooth phones don't go for the Sammy from my opinion
I was always a Samsung user for many years till the s7edge and then switched to Mate 9 then now mate 10 pro
While Samsung phones are great but they can't be compared to Huawei in 2 things mainly the battery life and speed/smoothness of operation and animations ect..
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Sammae7 said:
I'm curious about something, does the Pro support using the fingerprint sensor as navigation, similar to the standard Mate 10 and the Honor View 10?
It'd probably be a little more unorthodox as it's located on the back but that's possibly the only way I'd consider getting it even. Not an AMOLED fan.
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No the fingerprint scanner does not do all the functions as the normal mate 10 but we have something called navigation dock and it's floating anywhere you like on screen and it do the same exactly so you can hide the keys and make use of all this great 18:9 screen :laugh:
Mohamad Gahed said:
No the fingerprint scanner does not do all the functions as the normal mate 10 but we have something called navigation dock and it's floating anywhere you like on screen and it do the same exactly so you can hide the keys and make use of all this great 18:9 screen :laugh:
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You're right, I forgot to mention it : the navigation dock is a GREAT idea ! no screen surface wasted ! I love it.
Huawei Mate 10 Pro
I love the phone. I compared it to top of the line Samsungs at the store and I like the way it looks/feels better. Also Samsungs have ridiculously long shape and have much smaller battery.
Overall impression:
-- Very appealing to look at and hold. It is a bit slippery without a case because both sides are glass, but it comes with a very thin transparent soft plastic case which gives it a much better grip.
-- Camera blows my previous phone out of the water but not as good as a consumer grade DSLR. Low light pictures are sharp and crisp.
-- No headphone jack but comes with a pair of USB-C phones in the box.
This is my second HUAWEI device (first one was Honor Note 8 and it got stolen). I keep coming back to Huawei because of excellent build quality and very long battery life.
Always on display - does it still working only with huawei native apps?
- Mine does not have an always-on display.
Lock screen notification - after unlocking does the notification dismiss from the lock screen?
I have not seen such notification. I touch the fingerprint circle on the back side and it immediately shows icon screen or whatever app was open last.
Lags / over heat - Do you encounter them on daily use? how smooth the experience is compare to other flasgships?
Mine is always cool to the touch. I would not know what happens during intense videogames as I don't play em.
Youtube + message app bug - there is a post on the forum about the phone locking it self if you get message when you view youtube in full window mode, did it
got fixed with update?
Will try it and update.
Does the bluetooth / gps / wifi work well?
Bluetooth and GPS do. For me Wifi does not work well with 2.4 Ghz routers, although I get 120 Mbps on the 5 Ghz band. It looks like no one else has this issue so I will try to return and replace the phone with identical one. Also it appears to be a software glitch so might be fixed with an update.
any available Gcam for xperia1 III now?
Have you checked GCam Port Hub?
IDK why you bother looking for another camera while your phone's is already very great IMO.
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any available Gcam for xperia1 III now?
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The "MGC_8.1.101_A9_GV1r" is working, but you need to config it to do a better job. I've an initial config made by myself
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The "MGC_8.1.101_A9_GV1r" is working, but you need to config it to do a better job. I've an initial config made by myself
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thx
Masterblop said:
The "MGC_8.1.101_A9_GV1r" is working, but you need to config it to do a better job. I've an initial config made by myself
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How can ı use this xml file with the app?
Maazellat said:
How can ı use this xml file with the app?
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I have made a thread: https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/gcam-sony-xperia-1iii.4343691/
Masterblop said:
I have made a thread: https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/gcam-sony-xperia-1iii.4343691/
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Thank you very much bro
Which one are you guys using?
New updated version: https://www.celsoazevedo.com/files/android/google-camera/dev-bsg/f/dl53/
Tried and working version: MGC_8.1.101_A9_GV1s_MGC.apk
Hello,
Is there any option to made the photo sphere working? Honestly I only try to have Gcam for this mode hehe.
Thank you for the apk
Thank you for the link and the config. This is the only build of gcam that I could get working at all.
I've been evaluating this phone for the last week. I may end up returning it. It's a fantastic device; the only real problem I have with it is the camera. It's just not that good, and I think it's entirely a software problem. I've been side-by-side comparing shots taken with Photography Pro, taken with this gcam build, and with my old phone (Xiaomi Mi Mix 3 with a Pixel Experience ROM). Most of the time my old phone looks best, unfortunately.
You tell me:
Left: Xiaomi, Center: Xperia with Photography Pro in Auto mode, Right: Xperia with this Gcam config.
I wonder if with additional tweaking of the config, this could be fixed. It could open up the full potential of the hardware. I don't know the first thing about tweaking this type of camera config, though. Is there a guide that you used somewhere for figuring out the best values in this file?
Thanks again.
stiltzkin said:
Thank you for the link and the config. This is the only build of gcam that I could get working at all.
I've been evaluating this phone for the last week. I may end up returning it. It's a fantastic device; the only real problem I have with it is the camera. It's just not that good, and I think it's entirely a software problem. I've been side-by-side comparing shots taken with Photography Pro, taken with this gcam build, and with my old phone (Xiaomi Mi Mix 3 with a Pixel Experience ROM). Most of the time my old phone looks best, unfortunately.
You tell me:
Left: Xiaomi, Center: Xperia with Photography Pro in Auto mode, Right: Xperia with this Gcam config.
I wonder if with additional tweaking of the config, this could be fixed. It could open up the full potential of the hardware. I don't know the first thing about tweaking this type of camera config, though. Is there a guide that you used somewhere for figuring out the best values in this file?
Thanks again.
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Photography pro and pretty much every xperia before always use very little elaboration. Pretty much every review and testing state that photography pro could obtain high quality photos if used in manual mode. It's not easy, but auto it's not good. For casual photo shot better using basic mode, if you switch to advancet setting, avoid auto and use P, S, or M mode.
I know it's a smartphone and not a mirrorless or a Reflex but it's something like buying a 5000 euro camera body to use it with automatic settings.
Also form the photo you posted i see that the wood construction in the xperia auto mode is darker...but...the tree foliage on the top left clearly show more detail in the middle photo. The Gcam settings appear to have too much sharpness and grain.
Probably the middle photo with a little more exposure time or a little more iso will be the best one of the three.
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Photography pro and pretty much every xperia before always use very little elaboration. Pretty much every review and testing state that photography pro could obtain high quality photos if used in manual mode.
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I won't argue this with you; I've seen some great results in reviews from people using the camera in Manual mode. I'm sure it's possible to obtain superior results if you have the time to compose your shot and find the perfect settings.
The thing is though, for most of the photos I would want to take with a smartphone camera, I don't have time to find optimal settings manually. When I do have that time, I think the ability to make those manual adjustments is awesome (and should be in more smartphones), but most of the time I don't. That means that the Auto/Basic modes are incredibly important, because it's how I'll end up taking most photos in real life. Maybe that means that this phone is not marketed to me, and if that's the case, that's fine. But manual settings are pretty much outside the scope of discussion for this thread - what I wanted was a comparison of essentially default settings between my current phone and this phone.
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For casual photo shot better using basic mode, if you switch to advancet setting, avoid auto and use P, S, or M mode.
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In my testing, I actually found that Basic mode usually takes worse photos than Auto mode. In particular, Basic mode seems to have a big problem with overexposure. I assume because HDR/DRO is not being used?
Left to right: Reference (Xiaomi), Sony Auto, Sony Basic, Sony Gcam
(I had to scale down this comparison for posting)
Also, all modes on this phone do not capture detail as well as my current 3 year old phone. If you blow up the details, clearly the reference photo on the left has by far the best preservation:
Left to right: Reference (Xiaomi), Sony Auto, Sony Basic, Sony Gcam
This holds for every test photo I took - the detail is worse from the Xperia. I don't think manual mode tweaks will fix this - it seems like the sensor and software just don't capture as much detail.
But then again, I am not a professional photographer, so I'm not completely sure. Maybe I am doing something wrong.
All in all, I was really disappointed with these results since I wanted to love this phone!
I think EVERYONE who is obsessed with so-called camera quality on a PHONE has lost their minds. It has become ridiculous.
stiltzkin said:
Thank you for the link and the config. This is the only build of gcam that I could get working at all.
I've been evaluating this phone for the last week. I may end up returning it. It's a fantastic device; the only real problem I have with it is the camera. It's just not that good, and I think it's entirely a software problem. I've been side-by-side comparing shots taken with Photography Pro, taken with this gcam build, and with my old phone (Xiaomi Mi Mix 3 with a Pixel Experience ROM). Most of the time my old phone looks best, unfortunately.
You tell me:
Left: Xiaomi, Center: Xperia with Photography Pro in Auto mode, Right: Xperia with this Gcam config.
I wonder if with additional tweaking of the config, this could be fixed. It could open up the full potential of the hardware. I don't know the first thing about tweaking this type of camera config, though. Is there a guide that you used somewhere for figuring out the best values in this file?
Thanks again.
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In this case for me Sony photo pro>Xiaomi>Sony GCam. Probably we have different opinions or eyes hehe
jaseman said:
I think EVERYONE who is obsessed with so-called camera quality on a PHONE has lost their minds. It has become ridiculous.
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It's the new MHz race on x86 CPU when Pentium 4 were a thing
My race started with Hz
jaseman said:
I think EVERYONE who is obsessed with so-called camera quality on a PHONE has lost their minds. It has become ridiculous.
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An owner of this particular phone with close to insanity price tag is supposed to be obsessed with camera quality. Just because this is the main selling point of it - Zeiss, Sony Alpha team etc. Unfortunaly I'm less than impressed too . Other flaws like average battery life, no face unlock, low screen brightness at daylight etc etc don't help to love this phone either....