The New ZTE Axon 9 Pro! Global/China
What do you think of the new design and specs?
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ZTE Axon 9 Pro(A2019-Pro) SpecificationsDisplay6.21-inch AMOLED Notch full screen, 18.7:9, FHD+ (1080×2248), HDR 10
SOC+GPU
Qualcomm snapdragon 845 (SDM845), Kryo 385 eight-core: 4 × 2.649GHz + 4 × 1.7GHz , 10nm process
RAM+Storage
6GB RAM + 64GB ROM
8GB RAM + 256GB ROM
2TB external Micro SD card compatible
Front camera
20MP, smart beauty, face unlock, f/2.0
Rear camera
12MP, 1.4um, optical image stabilization, dual pixel focus, f/1.75 + 20MP 130 degree wide wide angle
Audio
Dual stereo speakers, Dolby Atmos HiFi;
Battery
4000mAh, QC4.0 fast charge, support wireless charging
Network
TDD-LTE: B34/38/39/40/41 (100MHz);
FDD-LTE: B1/2/3/4/5/7/8/12/13/17/18/19/20/25 /26/28/32;
TD-SCDMA: B34/39;
WCDMA: B1/2/4/5/8;
CDMA 1X/EVDO: BC0/1/10;
GSM: B2/3/5/8
Wireless connection
802.11 a/b/g/n/ac 2.4/5GHz, support 2×2 MIMO; Bluetooth 5.0;
GPS
GPS/A-GPS/Beidou/GLONASS/Galileo
System Platform
MiFavor 6.0 (based on Android 8.0)
Interface
USB Type-C, nano SIM card + nano SIM card / Micro SD card three choice two
Sensors
Gravitational acceleration, light / close, an electronic compass, a gyroscope, a hall, the RGB color temperature sensor;
positioning;
Safety
Built-in independent encryption chip, can be customized to support dual system, the NFC identification card; IP68 protection level; Other professional image processing chip; back fingerprint
Dimensions
156.5 × 74.5 × 7.9mm
ZTE Axon 9 Pro(A2019G-Pro) SpecificationsDisplay
6.21-inch AMOLED
2,248 x 1,080 resolution
18.7:9 aspect ratio
SoC
10nm, 64-bit, octa-core Qualcomm Snapdragon 845
GPU
Adreno 630
RAM
6GB
Storage
128GB UFS 2.1
Non-expandable
Cameras
Rear:
Main camera: 12MP sensor, f/1.75 aperture, 1.4 micron pixels, OIS
Secondary camera: 20MP super wide-angle sensor (130 degree field of view)
Front: 20MP sensor
Audio
Stereo speakers, surround sound with Dolby Atmos technology
No headphone jack
Surround sound recording with three microphones
Battery
4,000mAh battery
Non-removable
Wireless charging
IP rating
IP68
Connectivity
Wi-Fi 802.11 a/b/g/n/ac (2.4/5GHz)
2x2 MIMO
Bluetooth 5.0
USB Type-C
NFC
Location: GPS, Galileo, Glonass, BeiDou
SIM
Single nano-SIM
Software
Android 8.1 Oreo with ZTE "Stock plus"
Dimensions
156.5 x 74.5 x 7.9mm
Here is some real proof of the anticipated voyage!
Links for grabs:
Engaget gets hands on with video and specs
https://www.engadget.com/2018/08/30/zte-axon-9-pro-hands-on/
Chinese news forum proof
http://www.myzte.cn/thread-353357-1-1.html
Courtesy of Pocketnow
https://pocketnow.com/zte-axon-9-ifa-2018
Phone Arena
Leaked Ad! Hope not?!
https://www.phonearena.com/news/zte-axon-9-pro-ifa-announcement-official-product-image_id108031
More info to come as it goes further...
No headphone jack, no DAC, no front speakers, ugly generic design. No thanks. If this is true, then I'm not buying the new line of Axons. I'm sticking with my 7 until it dies, unless these leaks are a lie and has all of the above, and buying the new oneplus lineup
All is OK, but rear speakers!
Blue color is ugly.
Teet1 said:
No headphone jack, no DAC, no front speakers, ugly generic design. No thanks. If this is true, then I'm not buying the new line of Axons. I'm sticking with my 7 until it dies, unless these leaks are a lie and has all of the above, and buying the new oneplus lineup
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Where did you get the 'no headphone jack, no DAC' part? They don't say anything about that. I don't believe they will abandon those two since every Axon (not sure about the C2017, but all of the others, Axon, Axon Pro, and all of those) had the AK4490.
I've read from different pages and they don't mention a thing about audio.
Besides that, there is one thing that I love about the design. The S8, OP5T, Mate 10 pro, they all have that useless chin below, and they just add on-screen buttons. The perfect solution is either an IPhone-like screen and navbar buttons below (like an upside-down Mi Mix) or capacitive buttons on the chin just like this one (Or at least the fingerprint sensor there, like the regular Mate 10, then add fingerprint gestures).
What would we get first Oreo or the axon 9 ?
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Rear speakers kill the best of axon line, if it's real, except the processor, for me, axon 7 is still better
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What would we get first Oreo or the axon 9 ?
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the ETA is April, so Oreo. Plus the A2017 already has Oreo.
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Where did you get the 'no headphone jack, no DAC' part? They don't say anything about that. I don't believe they will abandon those two since every Axon (not sure about the C2017, but all of the others, Axon, Axon Pro, and all of those) had the AK4490.
I've read from different pages and they don't mention a thing about audio.
Besides that, there is one thing that I love about the design. The S8, OP5T, Mate 10 pro, they all have that useless chin below, and they just add on-screen buttons. The perfect solution is either an IPhone-like screen and navbar buttons below (like an upside-down Mi Mix) or capacitive buttons on the chin just like this one (Or at least the fingerprint sensor there, like the regular Mate 10, then add fingerprint gestures).
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The renders lack a headphone jack it seems, andl especially because of the screen. No headphone jack, no DAC
Teet1 said:
The renders lack a headphone jack it seems, andl especially because of the screen. No headphone jack, no DAC
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I see a very tiny imperfection on the top of the phone. Look carefully there.
Plus many bezel-less phones have a headphone jack. take the s8/s9/note8 for example. i think the OP5T also has one. Apple said it was to get more space but in reality I don't think you have a lack of space on a 6" device
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I see a very tiny imperfection on the top of the phone. Look carefully there.
Plus many bezel-less phones have a headphone jack. take the s8/s9/note8 for example. i think the OP5T also has one. Apple said it was to get more space but in reality I don't think you have a lack of space on a 6" device
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That looks too small for a headphone jack doesn't it? Very low quality pictures though...I think it might be a mic hole. If it's not up there, then I hope it's at the bottom. I just hope it doesn't have the speakers at the back side. Everything else is fine but it doesnt have the things that made the Axon 7 popular in the first place. I even remember taking a survey provided by ZTE from Newegg where I bought the phone about a few months asking me what I would want to find in a new Axon phone. A lot of the questions asked about the speakers and audio.
It makes me believe it's either some other phone in the Axon line, since the CEO mentioned there will be three Axon tiers. Tier A, B and C and maybe this could be that "midrange B" tier .
Then that makes the one with speakers, headphone jack, and a DAC the flagship Tier A pricing over $600 to $700
Which just doesn't make sense from a company like ZTE when there are so many over marketed phones in that price range like the Galaxies, people will choose those over this one simply because of how many people are familiar with a company like Samsung or even a Google device like the Pixel lines.
Teet1 said:
That looks too small for a headphone jack doesn't it? Very low quality pictures though...I think it might be a mic hole. If it's not up there, then I hope it's at the bottom. I just hope it doesn't have the speakers at the back side. Everything else is fine but it doesnt have the things that made the Axon 7 popular in the first place. I even remember taking a survey provided by ZTE from Newegg where I bought the phone about a few months asking me what I would want to find in a new Axon phone. A lot of the questions asked about the speakers and audio.
It makes me believe it's either some other phone in the Axon line, since the CEO mentioned there will be three Axon tiers. Tier A, B and C and maybe this could be that "midrange B" tier .
Then that makes the one with speakers, headphone jack, and a DAC the flagship Tier A pricing over $600 to $700
Which just doesn't make sense from a company like ZTE when there are so many over marketed phones in that price range like the Galaxies, people will choose those over this one simply because of how many people are familiar with a company like Samsung or even a Google device like the Pixel lines.
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It's not small at all. Notice how the whole side of the phone has a frame. Our phone has a very rounded back, that's why it's so noticeable in the axon 7. But that phone has a frame, so the jack is much less noticeable. just look at it some time and you'll see that it has just the right size to be a 3.5mm jack.
They may have gotten rid of the front firing speakers. I personally don't care, I bought it for everything else - if it came out with a reasonable price (say, $500 - 550) i wouldn't think twice.
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It's not small at all. Notice how the whole side of the phone has a frame. Our phone has a very rounded back, that's why it's so noticeable in the axon 7. But that phone has a frame, so the jack is much less noticeable. just look at it some time and you'll see that it has just the right size to be a 3.5mm jack.
They may have gotten rid of the front firing speakers. I personally don't care, I bought it for everything else - if it came out with a reasonable price (say, $500 - 550) i wouldn't think twice.
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You might be right, but time will tell. Hopefully soon more leaks come or they'll announce it. I like the front speakers, but if the price range is say more than 500-600, i may as well get another better phone with that price range. I'm picky, it must have front speakers for me I take advantage of them all the time.
I honestly hope they don't omit, what was in most people's opinion, the best part of the Axon 7: incredible front facing speakers. If they fail to include them they are going to lose a huge part of the Axon following. I definitely won't be buying it without them.
I would like to see a desing with no hardware buttons, and a bigger screen :3
I too bought the Axon 7 for the front facing stereo speakers alone. Without them I might as well have bought a OnePlus phone. I'd rather have some sort of gesture-based navigation system (like on the iPhone X or like OnePlus is experimenting with) than losing the stereo speakers...
Don't know whether this info is right or not but some sites confirm a 3.5mm jack...
https://www.gsmarena.com/zte_axon_9-9069.php
https://www.pdevice.com/product/zte-axon-9-price-specs
Axon 9 without anything from Axon 7 (except amoled), it will fail! I am lucky to have Axon 7! =)
I'm a huge fan of the front stereo speakers. It was one of my main attractions to the Axon 7. Not sure about this new one.
And even though it's pretty cool that the fingerprint ready is under the display, I personally like the placement on the back. I can unlock it with only one hand when it's on the back, rather than one hand holding the phone and the other to unlock.
Ugh, this doesn't look like an upgrade at all. It's a completely different phone. They might as well give this a different name all together. I mean, it looks very nice and all, don't get me wrong. But to me, an Axon is all about the speakers and sound! If this is truly the next Axon I am very disappointed.
HallOfPromise said:
I'm a huge fan of the front stereo speakers. It was one of my main attractions to the Axon 7. Not sure about this new one.
And even though it's pretty cool that the fingerprint ready is under the display, I personally like the placement on the back. I can unlock it with only one hand when it's on the back, rather than one hand holding the phone and the other to unlock.
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I agree with a lot of this:
The fingerprint scanner placement on the Axon 7 is perfect - my index finger goes right there automatically and I like unlocking with one hand.
The audio capabilities were a big deal to me, both the relatively loud front-facing speakers and the good DAC. And I require a headphone jack (and microSD).
The price was also a big factor for me - $350 (6 mo. or so after launch) vs $500+ for most comparable phones.
If the Axon 9 changes these things, I see little reason for me to buy it, even though I've been very happy with my first ZTE device. I'll stick with my Axon 7 for a while longer, and upgrade to something that fits my preferences better when the time comes. Not a deal breaker for me, but the Axon 9 pics I've seen make it look generic and kind of cheap.
Slimmer bezels are always a good idea, but I'd rather keep the 5.5" screen and make the casing smaller than keep the same size casing and grow the screen to fit it. That would allow me to use the phone much more comfortably with one hand
I don't see anything in that article that is written in stone. The images are so low res that they could be a total computer generated mock up and even if the leaked specs are correct, they are very vague at best. Although would be very interesting to have an under-screen fingerprint scanner!
One thing I have learned over the years is to take all mobile phone leaks with a massive pinch of salt. Best bet... just wait and see! April is not far away and besides, we still have one, if not thee best bang for buck smartphone on the market even after being released 2016. All the big smartphone manufacturers would have EOL'ed a device by now but not ZTE.
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Seriously...I want USB audio support for my damn phone already... Do I really have to sell my galaxy note, and get a damn iphone for this feature that should've been here YEARS AGO?
Our phones have the worst DSP/DAC ever...
Every post I have seen of yours has just been *****ing and moaning about this phone... not once have I seen a productive/informative/helpful post from you.
why don't you just sell it already and go back to drinking apple koolaid then?
LOL
Why not just use a 3.5 mm aux wire for music and leave the usb for charging in the car? Problem solved. Although, you would have to change tracks on the phone instead of the car's head unit. There are requests to google since a year ago, we might see it in Jellybean.
I agree, *****ing and moaning wont do much. If you cant stand having this device, sell it and get something else.
-Once you go NOTE, you'd say 4 inches a Joke
go bluetooth bro. it works awesomely
Explain how I said everything about the phone sucks?
Btw, I'm an audiophile. The DAC in our phone garbage. How is it so much to ask for a USB external DAC option for my phone? Iphones had this feature before they had MMS. You say i drjnk Apple koolaid whdn i sold m iPad to get this phone?? SAMSUNG's specs said this phone had USB HOST 2.0... I bought it thinking that I'd be able to use a USB DAC with ICS which was shpposed to be released for our phone MONTHS AGO. Is Apple se, retly paying google to not have USB DACs available for android? How am i supposed to have use my hifi audio systems with my phone? And dont say bluetooth because bluetooth is not HiFi. The 3.5 mm is not an option because it cannot be a line out. Honestly, i wish we had an optical TOSLINK imside our headphone jack, which would solve my problem. This is retarded that we dont have this simple feature.
Btw this is the only thing that really would make buying this phone a dealbreaker for me. I cant ever go back to Apple but I'd like to have my phone have the ABILITY to produce lossless audio and do NOT tell me how MP3 isn't lossless because i know this. I plan on acessing VLC flac files from my home network in the future.
This is in the top 10 issues of google's entire list and they respond by saying basically if someone codes it for them then they might look i to it. They MIGHT... Are you kidding? Most audiophiles who have iphone would switch over for a droid and USB DAC in a heartbeat. Apple would lose a couple hundred thousand customers for writing a few lines of code for ICS...
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To answer the subject line, it hasn't been coded yet.
Sent from my awesome-ass Note
I have the same issues with the phone as you. There are things I love about the iPhone and there are things I love about the Note. The Note wins for now.
c0reyl said:
Explain how I said everything about the phone sucks?
Btw, I'm an audiophile. The DAC in our phone garbage. How is it so much to ask for a USB external DAC option for my phone? Iphones had this feature before they had MMS. You say i drjnk Apple koolaid whdn i sold m iPad to get this phone?? SAMSUNG's specs said this phone had USB HOST 2.0... I bought it thinking that I'd be able to use a USB DAC with ICS which was shpposed to be released for our phone MONTHS AGO. Is Apple se, retly paying google to not have USB DACs available for android? How am i supposed to have use my hifi audio systems with my phone? And dont say bluetooth because bluetooth is not HiFi. The 3.5 mm is not an option because it cannot be a line out. Honestly, i wish we had an optical TOSLINK imside our headphone jack, which would solve my problem. This is retarded that we dont have this simple feature.
Btw this is the only thing that really would make buying this phone a dealbreaker for me. I cant ever go back to Apple but I'd like to have my phone have the ABILITY to produce lossless audio and do NOT tell me how MP3 isn't lossless because i know this. I plan on acessing VLC flac files from my home network in the future.
This is in the top 10 issues of google's entire list and they respond by saying basically if someone codes it for them then they might look i to it. They MIGHT... Are you kidding? Most audiophiles who have iphone would switch over for a droid and USB DAC in a heartbeat. Apple would lose a couple hundred thousand customers for writing a few lines of code for ICS...
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Since Google wont code it, Your only option now is to get an iPhone. Best of Luck to ya.
-Once you go NOTE, you'd say 4 inches a Joke
http://www.talkandroid.com/guides/droid/ipod-dock-adapter-for-motorola-droidmilestone/
Besides a DIY project, may try the MHL-microHDMI link to and audio input. Most manufacturers don't seem interested in making anything but apple's 30pin audio components. My Pioneer Dual Din Bluetooth Car Stereo has a USB out the works with Note. Have to use the phone to control it though.
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Sell it and shut the effin up already and quit wasting space on this forum
I love my Note, but I keep an old ipod permanently connected in my car just for music. And I have my old iphone 3G, which is only worth $50 at best, is attached to my hi-fi system at home.
Who says you have to do everything with one device? If the Note doesn't do what you want, keep your note and buy something else to do the other job. Just my $0.02.
i'm no genius - but doesn't the MHL adapter provide HDMI audio out?
wouldn't that imply that you CAN get HiFi audio out to your AVR or amp ?
then again, what do i know
If you are this anal about high end sound use store bought CDs. That or a record player and you won't need a DAC.
I love audio way more than anyone I know and I stream blue tooth audio from my phone.. Is it the best sound? No but it gets the job done. If you want high end you need to right equipment. Sadly the Galaxy note doesn't currently have the ability to do this.
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What pisses me off is the only thing stopping the note from doing this is a few lines of code for USB audio.
And the note doesn't even support HDMI audio out..
c0reyl said:
What pisses me off is the only thing stopping the note from doing this is a few lines of code for USB audio.
And the note doesn't even support HDMI audio out..
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Few lines of code? Hahaha. Yes, just a few lines, that's all...
c0reyl said:
How am i supposed to have use my hifi audio systems with my phone? And dont say bluetooth because bluetooth is not HiFi.
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Not really correct. Using the original BT compression algorithm, SBC, you get the equivalent of a high-bitrate MP3 - a maximum of 768kbit/s shared between channels and overhead so probably closer to a 256 MP3. There is a newer compression algorithm apt-X which provides lower latency and even higher quality at 384kbit/s. Overhead isn't included in that bitrate so that is the actual throughput on the audio channels. Not lossless (if that is your definition of "HiFi"), but you would have to do a side-by-side comparison to nitpick out the very minor differences.
The 3.5 mm is not an option because it cannot be a line out.
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Incorrect. The voltage levels between the mini plug and line out are compatible. Keep the volume down a bit to keep the voltage down and you are fine.
Honestly, i wish we had an optical TOSLINK imside our headphone jack, which would solve my problem.
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TOSLINK on a phone. Right. NEXT!
My Onkyo TX-NR616 Receiver plays off my notes usb cord just fine. Just go into USB Storage Mode.
xCeejayy said:
My Onkyo TX-NR616 Receiver plays off my notes usb cord just fine. Just go into USB Storage Mode.
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I will confirm this works for my Pioneer and Jensen HU's in my vehicles, as well as my XBOX360. Only downfall is you have to use your audio device to choose your tracks. It gets the job done.
Sounds like OP needs a custom Bose system for his car, and a Galaxy iNote.
StaticMatt said:
Few lines of code? Hahaha. Yes, just a few lines, that's all...
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It may have been a bit of an understatement, but considering that windows is something like 62 million lines of code, a simple driver for enabling usb audio when we already have USB host 2.0 wouldn't be very much in comparison, when it should have been implemented in the first place..
Honestly, if anyone gets full linux to ever work on the note, I'm going to use that and never look back if USB audio works with it, and has s-pen support to control the mouse. I'm pretty sure that would happen LONG before android ever gets universal usb audio.
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Not really correct. Using the original BT compression algorithm, SBC, you get the equivalent of a high-bitrate MP3 - a maximum of 768kbit/s shared between channels and overhead so probably closer to a 256 MP3. There is a newer compression algorithm apt-X which provides lower latency and even higher quality at 384kbit/s. Overhead isn't included in that bitrate so that is the actual throughput on the audio channels. Not lossless (if that is your definition of "HiFi"), but you would have to do a side-by-side comparison to nitpick out the very minor differences.
Incorrect. The voltage levels between the mini plug and line out are compatible. Keep the volume down a bit to keep the voltage down and you are fine.
TOSLINK on a phone. Right. NEXT!
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I actually thought that bluetooth audio had less bitrate, but I want the capability for lossless audio streaming from my home network using FLAC files, and the ability to watch blu ray stored on my pc over LTE would be badass as well, without audio comprimise.
Integrating TOSLINK hidden inside our headphone jack isn't has hard as you think. Many RCA and 3.5mm connectors have toslink hidden inside them from laptops and other devices, my sound card has it in the RCA SPDIF out. All they would need to do is make a proprietary android plastic mold adapter which being slightly different shaped than a headphone jack, would activate the TOSLINK switch inside the headphone jack and allow it to be on only by plugging the proprietary adapter inside, saving battery. TOSLINK can't be affected by EMF interuption. If this started happening, many things in the mobile market would change. Apple would lose hundreds of thousands of customers from the audio quality standpoint alone, more audiophiles would emerge from everywhere. Speaker development would increase exponentially. Hifi iPod docks would include TOSLINK. High end headphones would start coming with portable amps with Line Out, TOSLINK, and other options. It would be the easiest way to connect to a home theater system for high end audio. more people would be making their desktops a home server with all the audio stored on it able to stream over LTE. More people would be interested in FLAC and better bitrates. OTher companies would be profiting, driving BOSE into the ground. Companies like JMLAB, Legacy, Theil, Velodyne, Celestian, PSB, Focal, and many other high end companies who deserve more market.
I think it's a little stupid that on a device with a screen as nice as ours, we have little to no audio options available, when audio should have been the first concern in order to manipulate the market. Almost nobody who owns our phone even realizes just how good the display actually is. The black levels on our screen surpass almost any TV ever made, even if the colors aren't perfect. For example, I have a 55 inch 720p Sony Rear projection triple LCD panel tv with less pixels then my phone screen. The black levels on the phone DESTROY my tv, even if the colors aren't near as good on the phone, for cinema, it looks way better a foot from my face than optimal viewing distance with the HDTV. and, the colors on the HDTV surpass that of ANY "LED" tv you will see scamming the market today. They are LED backlit garbage twisted nematic LCD panels with terrible color accuracy.The sony has almost as good colors as my $700 Gateway FPD2485W professional S-IPS photo editing monitor actually, but still not quite. despite this, the phone still looks way better because of the black levels and sharpness, brightness and overall quality of the screen. I think Samsung solved the color problems with SuperAMOLED Plus with a different sub pixel layout amongst other improvemnts
slapshot591 said:
I will confirm this works for my Pioneer and Jensen HU's in my vehicles, as well as my XBOX360. Only downfall is you have to use your audio device to choose your tracks. It gets the job done.
Sounds like OP needs a custom Bose system for his car, and a Galaxy iNote.
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Do not ever plague my posts saying insinuating that I'm a BOSE or Apple fanboy. I am a fanboy of nothing, besides maybe the Dodge Viper. My car sound system might've only cost me $350, from amazing creigslist deals, but it'd run me over $1200 everything brand new with a shop install. I might only have cheap polk 5.25" paper cone door speakers with only 45 watts RMS but they have 93db efficiency which is outstanding for the size, and swivel mount silk domes for clarity. my Alpine 6x9 in the back also have silk domes, and my Alpine 12" kevlar reinforced pulp cone subs might only be 400 watts RMS,but they sound damn clean for the price I stole them for off creigslist, and the custom box they're in is well enough built that even being a vented dual 12" box, if you physically tap on one woofer, the other moves like a well built passive radiator. The component speakers are driven from an MB Quart RA4200 100x4 RMS 0.5% THD amp, which is when rockford fosgate owned MB Quart, and had some quality stuff.
Then again, my home system is better, and while I only have a surround sound system comprised of my HTPC using analogue out from my Auzentech X-FI Home Theater HD, which is one of the best cards ever made for it's purpose, a few 5" Kevlar woofer, Class AB active 1" Silk dome M-Audio BX5a studio monitors, they definitely have clarity. but, my Velodyne ULD 18 is what brings my theater together. You may not understand this, or understand why, but an 18 inch woofer producing [email protected] 20Hz with 0.5% THD (Total Harmonic Distortion) with under a QUARTER INCH of excursion, using a standard tar reinforced pulp cone woofer, with a servo attached to it to achieve this, is no easy feat considering the sub was made before I was born, in 1989. It was the first subwoofer ever to get a class A stereophile review. not only that, but it's flat down to 14Hz and will still push over 120db @ 20Hz with well under 3% THD. This is impressive for using only a 400 watt Class B servo amplifier. The bass quality of my theater makes my car sub which people seem to think is amazing hearing it sound like complete garbage. it makes my sudio monitors look like garbage, and anything bose has ever made sound like garbage, and it's the only piece of audio equipment I will claim to be true quality, everything else, I consider mediocre, because I can't afford a $4,000 pair of ATC bookshelves, or a $30,000 pair of JMLAB Utoptias..
But for the price I paid, I got decent enough quality, and my headphones I use (Sennheiser CX6 for fidelity, Vmoda Crossfade LP for soundstage and bass/electronic music), you can't ever tell me BOSE is quality. Maybe the BOSE 301's are good, I don't know for sure, haven't head them, but everything BOSE Iv'e ever heard was garbage for the money, and I had the tri port headphones, I had the quiet comfort 3's both as a gift. I'd never pay for anything bose has ever currently made, but who knows, Ford finally made something awesome with the new mustangs, I could change my mind eventually.
Point is, I mostly know what I'm doing with audio. As an Audiophile, I can say for a fact, Apple has a lot of loyal customers because of the audio options, Iv'e had 3 Iphones, the original as a hand me down which was broken (I'm extremely grateful for that because of the grandfather clause), the Iphone 4 as a gift before I ever cared about having a nice phone, and the 4S I traded my atrix for and couldn't stand using it once I knew what I was missing, despite the ease it was connecting to my head unit. The lack of navigation really pissed me off, the interface and texting pissed me off, the tiny screen pissed me off. I ended up deciding to sell the iphone and ipad to get this Galaxy note, which was worth it in every aspect except the terrible audio options available and the fact Samsung ripped us off on ICS release.
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Pretty crappy for my standards but w/e
Ehh, only really good piece of equipment in these pics is my good 24" monitor, and my Velodyne ULD18, and they are kind of old but I don't have any good new pics..
c0reyl said:
It may have been a bit of an understatement, but considering that windows is something like 62 million lines of code, a simple driver for enabling usb audio when we already have USB host 2.0 wouldn't be very much in comparison, when it should have been implemented in the first place..
Honestly, if anyone gets full linux to ever work on the note, I'm going to use that and never look back if USB audio works with it, and has s-pen support to control the mouse. I'm pretty sure that would happen LONG before android ever gets universal usb audio.
I actually thought that bluetooth audio had less bitrate, but I want the capability for lossless audio streaming from my home network using FLAC files, and the ability to watch blu ray stored on my pc over LTE would be badass as well, without audio comprimise.
Integrating TOSLINK hidden inside our headphone jack isn't has hard as you think. Many RCA and 3.5mm connectors have toslink hidden inside them from laptops and other devices, my sound card has it in the RCA SPDIF out. All they would need to do is make a proprietary android plastic mold adapter which being slightly different chaped than a headphone jack, would activate the TOSLINK switch inside the headphone jack and allow it to be on only by plugging the proprietary adapter inside, saving battery. TOSLINK can't be affected by EMF interuption. If this started happening, many things in the mobile market would change. Apple would lose hundreds of thousands of customers from the audio quality standpoint alone, more audiophiles would emerge from everywhere. Speaker development would increase exponentially. Hifi iPod docks would include TOSLINK. High end headphones would start coming with portable amps with Line Out, TOSLINK, and other options. It would be the easiest way to connect to a home theater system for high end audio. more people would be making their desktops a home server with all the audio stored on it able to stream over LTE. More people would be interested in FLAC and better bitrates. OTher companies would be profiting, driving BOSE into the ground. Companies like JMLAB, Legacy, Theil, Velodyne, Celestian, PSB, Focal, and many other high end companies who deserve more market.
I think it's a little stupid that on a device with a screen as nice as ours, we have little to no audio options available, when audio should have been the first concern in order to manipulate the market. Almost nobody who owns our phone even realizes just how good the display actually is. The black levels on our screen surpass almost any TV ever made, even if the colors aren't perfect. For example, I have a 55 inch 720p Sony Rear projection triple LCD panel tv with less pixels then my phone screen. The black levels on the phone DESTROY my tv, even if the colors aren't near as good on the phone, for cinema, it looks way better a foot from my face than optimal viewing distance with the HDTV. and, the colors on the HDTV surpass that of ANY "LED" tv you will see scamming the market today. They are LED backlit garbage twisted nematic LCD panels with terrible color accuracy.The sony has almost as good colors as my $700 Gateway FPD2485W professional S-IPS photo editing monitor actually, but still not quite. despite this, the phone still looks way better because of the black levels and sharpness, brightness and overall quality of the screen. I think Samsung solved the color problems with SuperAMOLED Plus with a different sub pixel layout amongst other improvemnts
Do not ever plague my posts saying insinuating that I'm a BOSE or Apple fanboy. I am a fanboy of nothing, besides maybe the Dodge Viper. My car sound system might've only cost me $350, from amazing creigslist deals, but it'd run me over $1200 everything brand new with a shop install. I might only have cheap polk 5.25" paper cone door speakers with only 45 watts RMS but they have 93db efficiency which is outstanding for the size, and swivel mount silk domes for clarity. my Alpine 6x9 in the back also have silk domes, and my Alpine 12" kevlar reinforced pulp cone subs might only be 400 watts RMS,but they sound damn clean for the price I stole them for off creigslist, and the custom box they're in is well enough built that even being a vented dual 12" box, if you physically tap on one woofer, the other moves like a well built passive radiator. The component speakers are driven from an MB Quart RA4200 100x4 RMS 0.5% THD amp, which is when rockford fosgate owned MB Quart, and had some quality stuff.
Then again, my home system is better, and while I only have a surround sound system comprised of my HTPC using analogue out from my Auzentech X-FI Home Theater HD, which is one of the best cards ever made for it's purpose, a few 5" Kevlar woofer, Class AB active 1" Silk dome M-Audio BX5a studio monitors, they definitely have clarity. but, my Velodyne ULD 18 is what brings my theater together. You may not understand this, or understand why, but an 18 inch woofer producing [email protected] 20Hz with 0.5% THD (Total Harmonic Distortion) with under a QUARTER INCH of excursion, using a standard tar reinforced pulp cone woofer, with a servo attached to it to achieve this, is no easy feat considering the sub was made before I was born, in 1989. It was the first subwoofer ever to get a class A stereophile review. not only that, but it's flat down to 14Hz and will still push over 120db @ 20Hz with well under 3% THD. This is impressive for using only a 400 watt Class B servo amplifier. The bass quality of my theater makes my car sub which people seem to think is amazing hearing it sound like complete garbage. it makes my sudio monitors look like garbage, and anything bose has ever made sound like garbage, and it's the only piece of audio equipment I will claim to be true quality, everything else, I consider mediocre, because I can't afford a $4,000 pair of ATC bookshelves, or a $30,000 pair of JMLAB Utoptias..
But for the price I paid, I got decent enough quality, and my headphones I use (Sennheiser CX6 for fidelity, Vmoda Crossfade LP for soundstage and bass/electronic music), you can't ever tell me BOSE is quality. Maybe the BOSE 301's are good, I don't know for sure, haven't head them, but everything BOSE Iv'e ever heard was garbage for the money, and I had the tri port headphones, I had the quiet comfort 3's both as a gift. I'd never pay for anything bose has ever currently made, but who knows, Ford finally made something awesome with the new mustangs, I could change my mind eventually.
Point is, I mostly know what I'm doing with audio. As an Audiophile, I can say for a fact, Apple has a lot of loyal customers because of the audio options, Iv'e had 3 Iphones, the original as a hand me down which was broken (I'm extremely grateful for that because of the grandfather clause), the Iphone 4 as a gift before I ever cared about having a nice phone, and the 4S I traded my atrix for and couldn't stand using it once I knew what I was missing, despite the ease it was connecting to my head unit. The lack of navigation really pissed me off, the interface and texting pissed me off, the tiny screen pissed me off. I ended up deciding to sell the iphone and ipad to get this Galaxy note, which was worth it in every aspect except the terrible audio options available and the fact Samsung ripped us off on ICS release.
Pretty crappy for my standards but w/e
Ehh, only really good piece of equipment in these pics is my good 24" monitor, and my Velodyne ULD18, and they are kind of old but I don't have any good new pics..
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Xiaomi Mi Note 2 review
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I would like to share my experience about the latest flagship from Xiaomi, the Mi Note 2 , which was introduced by Xiaomi this October.
I got the phone from SPEmall for review, so first I would like to say thanks for providing me this beautiful phone so fast! Actually the device is still hard to get outside of China, because the flash sales on Mi.com are usually taking about 2-3 seconds.
So, let's start with the specifications:
Specifications
Connectivity:
Global version
FDD-LTE: B1 / B2 / B3 / B4 / B5 / B7 / B8 / B12 / B13
/ B17 / B18 / B19 / B20 / B25 / B26 / B28 / B29 / B30
TDD-LTE: B38 / B39 / B40 / B41
TD-SCDMA: B34 / B39
WCDMA: B1 / B2 / B4 / B5 / B8
GSM: B2 / B3 / B5 / B8
CDMA: BC0 / B1 / B10 / B15
Standard version
FDD-LTE: B1 / B3 / B5 / B7
TDD-LTE: B38 / B39 / B40 / B41
TD-SCDMA: B34 / B39
WCDMA: B1 / B2 / B5 / B8
GSM: B2 / B3 / B5 / B8
CDMA: BC0
Announced: 2016 October
Size: 156.2 x 77.3 x 7.6 mm (6.15 x 3.04 x 0.30 in)
Weight: 166 g (5.86 oz)
SIM: Dual SIM (Nano-SIM, dual stand-by)
Screen: AMOLED edge screen, 110% NTSC color gamut, 100000:1 contrast ratio
Méret: 5.7" (~74.2% screen-to-body ratio)
Resolution: 1080 x 1920 pixel (~386 ppi )
OS: MIUI 8.0 Android 6.0 (Marshmallow)
SoC: Qualcomm MSM8996 SD821 CPU quad core(2x2.35 GHz Kryo & 2x1.6 GHz Kryo) GPU Adreno 530
Storage/RAM: 64 GB UFS 2.0/4 GB DDR4 RAM or 128 GB UFS 2.0/6 GB DDR4 RAM
Camera:
Rear:
Sony IMX318 Exmor RS 22.5 MP, f/2.0, EIS (gyro), phase detection autofocus, dual-LED flash
1/2.6" sensor, 1 µm pixel size, geo-tagging, touch focus, face detection, HDR, panorama
Video [email protected], [email protected]
Front:
8 MP, f/2.0, autofocus
Wireless: WLAN Wi-Fi 802.11 a/b/g/n/ac, dual-band, Bluetooth v4.2, A2DP, LE
GPS: GPS, A-GPS, GLONASS, BDS
NFC: Yes
Infra: Yes
USB: Type-C
Battery: Li-Ion 4070 mAh built-in
Available colors: Black, Silver
The design
We all know, that the Samsung Note 7 how beautyful device, but the Samsung made a big mistake in the design or in production, so the phones are exploded or just smoked.
The best design aspect in Note 7 was the edge screen in my opinion.
Many of the phone companies wanted to use this unfortunate situation of Samsung to boost their sales and started to announce dual curved phones. For instance: Xiaomi, Huawei, Vivo, and according to the rumors the edge screened HTC is also in the works.
From the phones above, I would like to show you the Mi Note 2. The phone sports with top specifications and it's still much cheaper the brands above.
You can get this phone about 530 USD which is a very great price for the value.
The phone comes in a white box, nothing special to say about. It looks simple and good.
After opening the box, you will see the phone with some protections films on the front and also on the back, which can be easily removed.
After removing the paper under the phone you will see all the accesories:
- charger
- Type-C cable
- Back cover
- some paperwork and SIM key
The front and the back made from glass, but I have no exact information about the protection. The frame is metal, painted to dark grey.
The device is very beautiful and very comfortable to use it and hold in the hand, I am very impressed also about the thickness, which is only 7.6 mm. I think it's a nice value with the big battery inside.
On the right you will find the power button and the volume rockers, on the left side we have only the SIM door.
On the bottom we have the type-C port and two speaker grills, but only one of them hides a speaker.
On the top you will see the 3.5 jack, the IR and a secondary microphone.
The front panel is 3D curved and it's beautiful. Under the screen we have the home button, with fingerprint sensor inside and on both sides of the button you will find the hidden capacitive buttons, which is backlit.
Above the screen we have the front camera, the phonespeaker, the sensors and also the hidden RGB notification LED light, which has pretty strong light.
The back is made from glass. It likes to collect the fingerprints, but still it looks awesome!
You will find the camera and the dual-LED flash on the back.
The screen is a curved AMOLED technology panel, I have no exact information about the manufacturer.
The resolution is FullHD, which is still acceptable on 5.7†size, at least I have no problems with reading the small text ont he screen.
The colors are very nice, the black is black like on every AMOLED screen. The viewing angles are very okey, you won’t find any issue with the screen., The brightness is very good, and also in low light situation it is very comfortable to see that.
Camera, audio
Most of the phones from China has some problem with the pictures made in low light situations.
We are lucky with the Note 2 because it shows a big improvement in this. The pictures are very sharp and detailed, also the colors are very natural, so you will be very satisfied with the overall quality.
I think the pictures above are great, so for an average user this is more than enough.
The speaker is very loud, you will have nice sound quality, actually I was really impressed how the one speaker can do that.
MIUI
I think I don't have to introduce how the MIUI works, also how multifunctional system is that.
You will be very satisfied with the system speed and with the plenty of functions provided by the MIUI.
Hardware
You will find the exact specification of the phone on the top of the article, so I wouldn’t like to detail it again. The heart of the phone is the latest Qualcomm Snapdragon SoC, called 821. This is the slightly improved version of the 820 which was introduced on the beginning of this year.
It got some overclocking and also some optimization which helps to reduce the consumption of the system.
The phone is fast in every situation, also it doesn’t heat up, after a lot of benchmarks.
Battery life
The phone ships with the with a huge 4070mAh battery that performs very well. I could get over 6.5 hours of screen-on time on a mixed use which is a very good result.
Communnication, conclusion
The global version supports all the available LTE bands in the world, even the LTE B20 which is a dealbreaker for many Europian buyers.
Dual-Band Wifi (AC), Bluetooth 4.2 and everything what you need for a modern flagship phone.
Built-in sensors list:
The GPS is pretty accurate even with Wifi and data turned off. It finds signal very fast and it hold's it accurately.
We can say, that Xiaomi did it again! They made a very good phone for reasonable price compared to the other flagships.
I would say, I would buy this phone instead of a top Samsung, or Apple, because you will get almost the same experience and quality for half price!
What we get for our money?
Top hardware
Edge screen
Very good support
Perfect build quality
Very good camera in this price segment
A beautiful design
The phone is really recommended
I would like to say thank you again to SPEmall for providing me this beautiful phone for review!
Thank you for good review. I would like to know, do you need glass protection?
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dtosun said:
Thank you for good review. I would like to know, do you need glass protection?
Sent from my MI 5 using XDA-Developers mobile app
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Actually I am using the phone only 4 days ago, so I don't know how strong is the glass. Xiaomi didn't notice the type of protection. On Aliexpress you can find some curved tempered glass, so I think it's not a dealbreaker. Also, for the back cover you get a plastic protector from Xiaomi.
The best smartphone i had in years i agree with every thing
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peixeskim said:
The best smartphone i had in years i agree with every thing
Enviado do meu LG-V500 atravs de Tapatalk
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Thank you! This phone is perfect for the price.
I want to ask if spemall are reliable? i noticed their price are quite reasonable. i want to buy one from spemall. looking forward your suggestion
bellzeng said:
I want to ask if spemall are reliable? i noticed their price are quite reasonable. i want to buy one from spemall. looking forward your suggestion
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Sure! I wouldn't buy phones from anybody else. They have fast shipping, also a TAX free solution to Europe. You can get the phones about 7-10 working days and they are very helpful if you have any trouble.
So, I can recommend them. :good:
Not really sure why they went with the weaker camera on this. The IMX386 in the Mi 5s and Google Pixel & Pixel XL is much better. This has 10MP more, but who the hell makes massive prints of phone photos? Anyone? Ever? Didn't think so.
mudnightoil said:
Not really sure why they went with the weaker camera on this. The IMX386 in the Mi 5s and Google Pixel & Pixel XL is much better. This has 10MP more, but who the hell makes massive prints of phone photos? Anyone? Ever? Didn't think so.
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Actually the camera is very decent, there is nothing to blame on Xiaomi for this, just look the pictures. They are very sharp and the dynamic range is perfect.
tibcsi0407 said:
Actually the camera is very decent, there is nothing to blame on Xiaomi for this, just look the pictures. They are very sharp and the dynamic range is perfect.
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I have looked .... it looks passable in good / uniform light. Poor dynamic range and loads of noise in low / mixed light. It's nowhere close to the IMX386.
mudnightoil said:
I have looked .... it looks passable in good / uniform light. Poor dynamic range and loads of noise in low / mixed light. It's nowhere close to the IMX386.
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It looks much better in the full resolution pictures. I repeat, this picture quaility has no rival in the price segment. Actually it makes better pictures compared to the Mi5S.
I am not able to post video for some reason, so here is the link:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J2oDTOgw2hk
Does it play x265/hevc well? (use mx player + custom codec)
This is the thing I'm looking for in my next phone.
test file: http://jell.yfish.us/media/jellyfish-250-mbps-4k-uhd-hevc-10bit.mkv
from http://jell.yfish.us/
My Nvidia Shield TV & Google Pixel C play this with zero effort (both have the Nvidia Tegra X1 chip)
SoreGums said:
Does it play x265/hevc well? (use mx player + custom codec)
This is the thing I'm looking for in my next phone.
test file: http://jell.yfish.us/media/jellyfish-250-mbps-4k-uhd-hevc-10bit.mkv
from http://jell.yfish.us/
My Nvidia Shield TV & Google Pixel C play this with zero effort (both have the Nvidia Tegra X1 chip)
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Played without any issue!
tibcsi0407 said:
On the bottom we have the type-C port and two speaker grills, but only one of them hides a speaker.
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Firstly, fantastic work and nice review. Now send it to me so I may do the same?
So...whats the point of 2 speaker like grils if there's only 1 single firing speaker? A strange 'cosmetic' decision? Is there anytihng behind it?
RoOSTA
roosta said:
Firstly, fantastic work and nice review. Now send it to me so I may do the same?
So...whats the point of 2 speaker like grils if there's only 1 single firing speaker? A strange 'cosmetic' decision? Is there anytihng behind it?
RoOSTA
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Thank you, I am happy that you were satisfied. I am very beginner in reviews, also my English needs some polishing because I didn't use it a long time ago.
I think they just simply wanted to keep the symmetry of the design. Anyway this speaker does the job very well, I would say it is as loud as two speaker in any other phone.
Ofcourse it doesn't better than Axon 7, but still, it's good.
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Thank you, I am happy that you were satisfied. I am very beginner in reviews, also my English needs some polishing because I didn't use it a long time ago.
I think they just simply wanted to keep the symmetry of the design. Anyway this speaker does the job very well, I would say it is as loud as two speaker in any other phone.
Ofcourse it doesn't better than Axon 7, but still, it's good.
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My question was more about what the other speaker hole is covering, since there is only 1 (one) speaker?! Do you still have the phone? If so, I'd really like to see a video or photo of the LED notification light?
Is there any issue with taking a phone call on SIM 2 while you are using data / 4G on SIM 1? The new snapdragon processor should allow this. I've asked the question on this board and it looks to be confirmed. Just wanted to ask this to another user opf the phone. I assume your phone was CN Shina mode, not global?
If you had global ROmM phone, I need someone to actually confirm that band 28 700Mhz is actually a confirme/working LTE 4G band on this phone. Reports conflict.
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I have looked .... it looks passable in good / uniform light. Poor dynamic range and loads of noise in low / mixed light. It's nowhere close to the IMX386.
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Preceisely. In dimmish light, the pictures aren't bad, in very low light/night time, the photos are horrible. Seems like a sub-par sensor despite its boost in megapixel resolution. the DOF is very shallow...can you shoot in manual mode, or change shutter, ISO, aperture?
RoOSTA
roosta said:
My question was more about what the other speaker hole is covering, since there is only 1 (one) speaker?! Do you still have the phone? If so, I'd really like to see a video or photo of the LED notification light?
Is there any issue with taking a phone call on SIM 2 while you are using data / 4G on SIM 1? The new snapdragon processor should allow this. I've asked the question on this board and it looks to be confirmed. Just wanted to ask this to another user opf the phone. I assume your phone was CN Shina mode, not global?
If you had global ROmM phone, I need someone to actually confirm that band 28 700Mhz is actually a confirme/working LTE 4G band on this phone. Reports conflict.
Preceisely. In dimmish light, the pictures aren't bad, in very low light/night time, the photos are horrible. Seems like a sub-par sensor despite its boost in megapixel resolution. the DOF is very shallow...can you shoot in manual mode, or change shutter, ISO, aperture?
RoOSTA
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I am now sporting with a Redmi 4A, but I will take some photos from the LED later. Actually it's bright and RGB, you can customize it.
The phone is dual-standby, so it should work if you have an LTE card and calling SIM. You will lose the LTE connection if you have a phone call.
From the bands I can't say anything, since we have no LTE B28 in Hungary.
The other speaker hole hides the Microphone. You should check my video linked above.
tibcsi0407 said:
I am now sporting with a Redmi 4A, but I will take some photos from the LED later. Actually it's bright and RGB, you can customize it.
The phone is dual-standby, so it should work if you have an LTE card and calling SIM. You will lose the LTE connection if you have a phone call.
From the bands I can't say anything, since we have no LTE B28 in Hungary.
The other speaker hole hides the Microphone. You should check my video linked above.
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Thanks. You can actually access the hidden menu on most android phones that's Devs and testers use. It will show you the bands it has access to in its radio. Google instructions and maybe see if you can get a screenshot? You can check another post in this board (where I am the OP) and another user who replies has screenshot band selection menu.
RoOSTA
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roosta said:
Thanks. You can actually access the hidden menu on most android phones that's Devs and testers use. It will show you the bands it has access to in its radio. Google instructions and maybe see if you can get a screenshot? You can check another post in this board (where I am the OP) and another user who replies has screenshot band selection menu.
RoOSTA
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Could you please link it? I know that you can do that on MTK, but for Qualcomm you need the LTEdiscovery app, which needs root. I don't want to root the phone because it's still not mine.
I forgot to answer to your camera questions. Actually I am not a good photographer, also the phone doesn't support the Camera API 2.0
Honor 10 WishlistThe Honor 9 was a big improvement over the Honor 8, taking many people's criticisms and implementing new features to fix them. For owners of the Honor 9, what are you hoping to see in the next installment of this phone line? What can the Honor 10 do to be even better?
Here are some things I would like to see in the next phone:
1440 x 2560 Resolution
Android Oreo
3500+ mAh battery
Improved selfie camera
Water resistant
What would you like to see in the Honor 10?
Rommco05 said:
Camera optical stabilization
Steel on back
Biggest battery
Stereo reproductors
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Hope for Snapdragon chipset
Rommco05 said:
Something realistic
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If this happens with uni metal body , i will select honor again.
Add only stereo speakers to what you already said, it'll be perfect
Rommco05 said:
Kirin 970 + metal body + stereo rep + bigger battery + little bit bigger screen
Anyway I will buy Honor 10
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Snapdragon
Adreno gpu> 540 may be new one
Bigger battery >3500
Metal body
Stero speakers
Fingerprint -backside it would be perfect,front side looks ugly and covers the phone space
Android oreo
Quick charging.
Forget snapdragon, honor will never use something other than kirin chipset in its higher end devices
Honor 5x has tons of ROMs because of SD
I hope for SD.
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Headphones jack
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Headphones jack
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If they don't add it , it would be definetly a failure.
For me definately:
1. Optical Image Stabilization
2. OLED Screen
I want a side mounted fingerprint scanner/power button.
That would be awesome
Many of are not fans of side mounted fps.by side mounting it was is difficult to use other hand finger.
Honor 9 is a great phone and after two months still a pleasure to use everyday.
I would like the Honor 10 to have almost exactly the same design as Honor 9 which is beautiful, but transposed onto the body dimensions of the Honor 6x, with a 5.5" screen with 1440x2560 resolution. This size will allow a better battery life. Keep the fps where it is on a front home button. Update the chipset to Kirin 970, go one generation better for Gorilla Glass (I believe this means updating to Gorilla Glass 3), waterproof that, and I will definitely buy it.
keep the dimension, if possible increase battery capacity, ois and oled screen for better low light and better battery life. oh, and stereo speaker? wait, waterproofing too.
Narrow frame
Top and bottom sides have big parts than it needs.
Screen body ratio is terrible for this quality
Front facing stereo speakers
What I would like to see on the Honor 10:
Screen:
- same size, I like one handed usability
Body:
- metal unibody for better heat dissipation and less fragility
- waterproofing would be nice
- headphone jack is a must
- fingerprint on the back, for smaller bezzels, maybe
Camera:
- at least f/1.9 aperture, for low ligh, same sensors, same autofocus
- OIS
Performance:
- Kirin 970
- 4GB RAM + 64GB flash should be enough
- again, heat dissipation
Software:
- at least two years of constant updates.
- this is the biggest flaw of Huawei devices, the lack of updates after the first year. And it's becoming a bigger issue, as time passes and bad reputation grows. Get your **** together Huawei
Misc:
- IR blaster is always nice
-in order to keep the price in the same range of sub 400 Euros, I'd keep a similar battery, screen, fast charging options, maybe even USB standard, stereo speakers and other fancy stuff. If you're into that, go for the Huawei P or Mate series
- I feel that as long as the latest Honor device outperforms last year's Galaxy, while keeping a low price, it should do ok. And yes, except for waterproofing, I believe the Honor 9 is a better device than the S7
18:9 display aspect screen since it's the new trend.
Improved audio ( since huawei has been rated the lowest quality of audio output).
Stereo speakers.
Rest what you said.
I hope Honor/Huawei listens us.
venugopalu007 said:
Hope for Snapdragon chipset
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That is probably never gonna happen. As the Honor is owned by Huawei and they do prefer to use their own HiSilicon Kirin SOCs. Which is much better than Qualcomm's Snapdragon's range of SOCs.
Ois in camera?
Dualsim AND sdcard
I know its late for first impressions, since the phone was released 1 year ago and motorola has released "an upgraded version" (honestly cant see much of an upgrade apart for the 144hz oled, more so mostly downgrades), but i just got it in a, in my opinion rather good, deal from lenovo directly for 499e new.
Ill start with negatives first as there are rather few that i saw until now.
Most of them have to do with the curved display:
1. The edges are extremely curved, have color distorsion and the part of the display is there but unusable for reading, hence the real estate is smaller as advertised. The display is not optimally calibrated, is slightly blue and you can change it manually (like on samsung or lg phones)
2. The aluminum frame at the side is slightly protruding from the the rest of the phone, so when holding it with one hand its somewhat annoying/irritating, almost painful when holding it for prolonged times. Somewhat slippery with dry hands. No protective casing.
3. As far as i can tell the camera isnt able to do more than 120fps in slow motion (i dont think its 240fps), even if i try with gcam only 1/4 works, with 1/8 not working. This is quite the schocker as most other sd865 phones can do 960fps, or at least 240/480fps
4. Gcam (7 and 8) works good with the main and the tele camera, but fails with the ultra wide (white dotted lines/raster on the whole image). The good thing is, the stock camera seems to be a modified gcam version.
5. apparently only 2 OS updates (one being Android 11, so only 12 coming) / but on the bright side, the edge 20 pro will get only 1 ^ ^ Naturally its not as good as Samsung or Google but its for half the price.
6. No custom Roms, apparently bootloader unlock damages the FP function (not sure if in android 11 as well)
7. Only single sim - at least the international variant. No SDcard
Positives
1. The phone feels really solid in the hand. It is a real premium feel. Entirely comparable to the samsung note series
2. The battery life is awesome. Currently at 42% and over 5 Hours SOT
3. The main camera and the ultrawide make great photos, the tele is somewhat underwhelming (zoomed in main photo, has almost same detail as the tele picture native)
4. 12GB ram, 256GB UFS 3.0, USB 3 connection, Displayport/HDMI support all for 499e
5. The motorola desktop experience, works like samsung dex, really useful gimmick
6. doesnt heat up much, consistent performance
7. 90 Hz display, doesnt eat up as much battery and subjectively its not different to 120hz
8. The moto gestures and functions are absolutely awesome. Especially the Peek Display. I really missed this from the moto z i had and sold a few years ago.
9. loud stereo speakers, though they could use a bit more bass and less mids and highs. There is some kind of equalizer which doesnt seem to have too much effect though.
10. For me with smaller hands the width is perfect for single handed use, both left and right sided. Though because of the high display its sometimes hard to press things on the top.
11. Almost no bloatware (except for the google bloatware) so basically as if you would be getting a pixel phone.
12. Bootloader unlockable.
13. 3.5mm Headphone jack.
14. Charger and headphones in the box!
Will be adding things when i use it more. If anyone has questions i can try to answer them. And if anyone doest agree with me, bring it up so i can try it out.
Hi all
I have been debating with myself for awhile rather get the xperia 1 3 or the oneplus 9pro, also considering the op9 or nokia 8.4 although I know specs are downgraded from first two.
Do u have any insights for me?
thx in advance
the-light said:
Hi all
I have been debating with myself for awhile rather get the xperia 1 3 or the oneplus 9pro, also considering the op9 or nokia 8.4 although I know specs are downgraded from first two.
Do u have any insights for me?
thx in advance
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I can assure you that you won't be disappointed if you choose Xperia 1 III. I think I don't have to polish the quality, it's a Sony the display is superb as always. Camera is a masterpiece, especially in manual. If you know what you're doing then you shot photos you couldn't with any other and the colours are the most realistic you can get. Performance is outpacing all other phones. I didn't have any lags, hesitation or slowdown ever. Multi-tasking is a killer, doesn't matter how many apps you use simultaneously, apps won't crash. I replaced my Xperia 1 and I didn't regret it. Not to mention that my Xperia 1, Xperia xz premium, xperia z3 still run like new I don't have any pros or cons regarding the other phones you mentioned.
LaceeWearsPrada said:
I can assure you that you won't be disappointed if you choose Xperia 1 III. I think I don't have to polish the quality, it's a Sony the display is superb as always. Camera is a masterpiece, especially in manual. If you know what you're doing then you shot photos you couldn't with any other and the colours are the most realistic you can get. Performance is outpacing all other phones. I didn't have any lags, hesitation or slowdown ever. Multi-tasking is a killer, doesn't matter how many apps you use simultaneously, apps won't crash. I replaced my Xperia 1 and I didn't regret it. Not to mention that my Xperia 1, Xperia xz premium, xperia z3 still run like new I don't have any pros or cons regarding the other phones you mentioned.
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Thank u for the reply. it is helpful
If you're into this kind of bleeding edge device; either way you'll be disappointed, just less with this one I think.
Reasoning: Android is just becoming more like IOS on both the hard and software side.
DRM, lack of sdcard port (why I decided to pick the 1III over the 9P), locking down systems as much as possible.
Funny enough that ain't whats killing the 1III or the 9P, these companies share more source code than most, it's the tiny community which might have made it worth for me to get the S22 Ultra instead.
I did get a terrific deal tho; €888 for a snapdragon 888, how fitting.
I don't know about OnePlus, but my Xperia has a definite "beta" feel that never goes away.
What the Sony really has going for it is:
Fast CPU burst speed launches apps quickly
microSD card for old apps and some apps not from Google Play Store
Solid feel
Stereo speakers and headphone jack
Fast WiFi 6
Quick camera button
Long battery life
Water resistant
Notification LED
Very fast USB connection
Not so good:
Some people have problems with phantom screen and fingerprint touches
Fingerprint reader will false-positive a LOT
Minimal carrier support, if any. Cellular reception is not the best.
Minimal CPU cooling, quick throttling
Dated camera quality, worse camera software
Very "stock" Android, and that's a bad thing for Android 11 and 12. Google's recent work is a dumpster fire.
microSD crippled for recent Google Play Store apps (see previous item)
Several gigabytes of setup shovelware on some models. The downloads have to be cancelled to get started.
Rough software and some bad updates. Can be frustrating to use.
Flashlight is dim
4K screen resolution is restricted to a few uses
The Sony by my experience excellent.
A few sites to confirm this.
https://www.whathifi.com/reviews/sony-xperia-1-iii
Sony Xperia 1 III | EISA – Expert Imaging and Sound Association
eisa.eu
Sony Xperia 1 III - TIPA
Xperia 1 III utilises expertise of engineers from Sony’s Alpha cameras. It offers four focal lengths, including the world’s first Variable telephoto lens paired with a Dual PD sensor– reaching up to a focal length of 105mm from 16mm, as well as delivering 12MP and RAW formatted images. Each lens...
www.tipa.com
Very happy with mine. Been a champ. Learn to yield the camera and you will be trated with excellent images.
Led notification
3.5 connection
12/256 config on the base model + sd-card support
4k FLAT screen - no notch or punch-hole
Great camera hardware - excellent manuel controls - 4k 120fps
Great battery
Stereospeakers with punch and good balance
Also a great looking phone beautifully buildt.
Why open new threads like this always and mess up the entire forum... Even for a single new update if there is only a monthly security update
kevinmcmurtrie said:
I don't know about OnePlus, but my Xperia has a definite "beta" feel that never goes away.
What the Sony really has going for it is:
Fast CPU burst speed launches apps quickly
microSD card for old apps and some apps not from Google Play Store
Solid feel
Stereo speakers and headphone jack
Fast WiFi 6
Quick camera button
Long battery life
Water resistant
Notification LED
Very fast USB connection
Not so good:
Some people have problems with phantom screen and fingerprint touches
Fingerprint reader will false-positive a LOT
Minimal carrier support, if any. Cellular reception is not the best.
Minimal CPU cooling, quick throttling
Dated camera quality, worse camera software
Very "stock" Android, and that's a bad thing for Android 11 and 12. Google's recent work is a dumpster fire.
microSD crippled for recent Google Play Store apps (see previous item)
Several gigabytes of setup shovelware on some models. The downloads have to be cancelled to get started.
Rough software and some bad updates. Can be frustrating to use.
Flashlight is dim
4K screen resolution is restricted to a few uses
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Wifi 6 really is fast No other phone can do this. At my workplace they couldn't believe how is this even possible
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I've even reached 2,6Gbps download speed once. Sadly, I didn't taka a screenshot
Apart from the dim flashlight, I didn't face any of those issues. This phone really is a beast Can't imagine that I'd buy any other manufacturer's phone.
I had a lot of Flagships in my hands. For 1 year ago a had a s21, s22 , S22 Ultra, Zfold3 , Mi11 Ultra, Mate/P 40 Po... I can easily say that 1||| is not the best at all but...
Beautiful und one hand useful
Camera with a bit of knowledge is the best in the terms of colours and really really to convey the real atmosphere and mood of the scene. Hey this is not a flat and too bright Samsungs way. Other like a hand painted Huawei and Pixel way.
And up to 5 zoom ist the best because ist not so dependent from various constant zoom cameras. It have a variable zoom and this make a lot of difference.
Also is a lot more agile and smooth than Samsung in terms of software.
I have never had a One+ device but with the Chinese i find always annoying flaws.
I don't understand why people are comparing this phone so much with other phones.
The sole reason I bought this phone is because it offers a very unique featureset.
I wanted a fingerprint scanner on the side or back.
Can find lots, but typically only in higher-end models.
I also wanted wireless charging.
Also lots, but typically only in budget models.
I wanted a flat screen, no curved edges.
Removes a lot of phones too.
I preferred a headphone jack and notification LED (if possible).
Removes even more phones.
With all these requirements there is literally no other phone available.
None
I couldn't care less about camera quality, yet I bought it.
Me? I'm happy with it. But unless you want some specific features that only this phone offers I just would not recommend it because it's, imo, WAY too expensive compared to the competition.
You should not buy this phone because you want a "flagship model", you're better off with OP, Samsung, Google or Apple (dare I say it).
I will admit that Sony devices are unicorns, so you can buy it for the hipster factor I guess.