I want to be able to use my LG V30+ (T-Mobile version) on both T-Mobile as well at AT&T (personal account and work account, so I swap SIMs as needed). However the services that will do this seem very suspect, and price is $6 to $150. I assume this phone uses the T-Mobile unlock app (I haven't opened yet, in case I decide to return it and eat $50). Is this doable, and any suggestions on who?
Thanks...
If you pay off the phone T-Mobile will unlock it for you.
Or find out who unlocked this guy's T-Mobile phone:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3753214
Sent from my official open market LG US998 V30+
ChazzMatt said:
If you pay off the phone T-Mobile will unlock it for you.
Or find out who unlocked this guy's T-Mobile phone:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3753214
Sent from my official open market LG US998 V30+
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Thanks - I know my inquiry sounds "suspect" - but I'm a longtime loyal T-Mobile customer who took advantage of the BYGO current offer. Paying off isn't realistic, as in theory I believe it requires me to pay off 2 phones, and then get paid back for one over 24 months - which is a crazy proposition! If that's my pay-off option, I'll just return the phones and eat the $100 restocking. I would just like one unlocked to I can switch between my personal and work account.
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Thanks - I know my inquiry sounds "suspect" - but I'm a longtime loyal T-Mobile customer who took advantage of the BYGO current offer. Paying off isn't realistic, as in theory I believe it requires me to pay off 2 phones, and then get paid back for one over 24 months - which is a crazy proposition! If that's my pay-off option, I'll just return the phones and eat the $100 restocking. I would just like one unlocked to I can switch between my personal and work account.
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Well, ask that guy. He seems to have bought two and unlocked them to work on AT&T. Find out how he did it.
Sent from my official carrier unlocked LG V30+ US998
I used the unlock app on the phone and it works instantly, but phones were paid in full. Did the BOGO a few months ago, ended up switching to unlimited at the end of January and paid the remainder of the phones off.
Xblackberryuser said:
I used the unlock app on the phone and it works instantly, but phones were paid in full. Did the BOGO a few months ago, ended up switching to unlimited at the end of January and paid the remainder of the phones off.
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I think they were sending out a cash card for the free phone then - so one could use that to pay off a phone immediately. Now it's 24 monthly credits.
cz9h3d said:
I think they were sending out a cash card for the free phone then - so one could use that to pay off a phone immediately. Now it's 24 monthly credits.
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Yes. T-Mobile's BOGO deal last year was one where they sent a prepaid Mastercard after 6-8 weeks, when you bought two V30s (or V30+) on installment plan. If you timed it right, LG had a $400 rebate going at the same time, which was stackable with the T-Mo BOGO.
For my part, I paid off both phones when I received the BOGO Mastercard, then unlocked using the T-Mobile Unlock app. A painless process -- and free. As I understand the phones must be on T-Mobiles network for at least 40 days, and the account still open, in order to be eligible for unlock. Needless to say, the phones must be paid off.
While I did indeed receive both a $800 rebate from T-Mo and $400 from LG, I screwed up by waiting a few days after unlocking before porting out the numbers, so that my T-Mo plan rolled a few days into its 3rd month. I was certain they would prorate that month, but I never received a final bill, they just charged me a full month. So I wasted $100 paying for my new service (AT&T MVNO) while T-Mo's meter kept running on a closed account. My mistake, of course, for not reading their fine print.
My main reason for changing network is T-Mo's lack of reception in our home. I like the company and would have gone to T-Mo prepaid or MVNO if coverage had worked. Maybe I'll come back to T-MO when Band 71 gets rolled out in a couple years -- although right now I am still steaming about them not prorating my last month.
Tmo playing games.. Who can I pay that someone can vouch for?
this wil work to unlock lg v30 + locked to t mobile?
i want to use one in europe, it´s blacklisted
i have to pay service like this or there is any free solution?
ebay.com/itm/T-MOBILE-LG-V20-H918-V30-H932-ARISTO-M210-K7-K330-K10-K428SG-PREMIUM-UNLOCK-CODE/112785418959
anyone please
dentedilupo said:
anyone please
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Anyone, please what? Please read the thread? We've answered all the questions and people have given suggestions. Read the thread.
ChazzMatt said:
Anyone, please what? Please read the thread? We've answered all the questions and people have given suggestions. Read the thread.
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chill out... this thread is from 23rd February 2018, i´m just asking if the only way to sim unlock this phone is paying service since my future lg v30+ can´t use the tmobile app to unlock
so only way right now is paying service like i posted ? there is more cheaper?
thank you
dentedilupo said:
chill out... this thread is from 23rd February 2018, i´m just asking if the only way to sim unlock this phone is paying service since my future lg v30+ can´t use the tmobile app to unlock
so only way right now is paying service like i posted ? there is more cheaper?
thank you
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so you're just ignoring the answer on September 1?
No one can tell you the answers to your questions.
Why not buy a phone that can be unlocked for free? Like any of the other North America variants? With those you just convert to carrier unlocked US998.
ALSO you can buy mint North America variants guaranteed to be clean for just over $300. No need to worry about blacklist or paying for SIM card unlock. I know Europe doesn't care about U.S. blacklist. Just saying you seem to be going to a lot of trouble to get this phone, and it makes no sense.
If you live in Europe, you don't need U.S. T-MOBILE phone.
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No one can tell you that.
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why?
dentedilupo said:
why?
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Tell me why you need a U.S. T-Mobile phone in Europe. There's free SIM card unlock for any other North America variants and some don't even need SIM card unlock, they're already unlocked.
You're buying one that needs it and the one that is hardest. There's examples in this form that even T-Mobile sometimes can't SIM card unlock their own phones.
but if you absolutely want it no matter what look at the post from September 1st.
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Tell me why you need a U.S. T-Mobile phone in Europe. There's free SIM card unlock for any other North America variants and some don't even need SIM card unlock, they're already unlocked.
You're buying one that needs it and the one that is hardest. There's examples in this form that even T-Mobile can't SIM card unlock their own phones.
but if you absolutely want it no matter what look at the post from September 1st.
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because i only payed 270 euros for it... here in europe for a used minimal is 350 euros...
dentedilupo said:
because i only payed 270 euros for it... here in europe for a used minimal is 350 euros...
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But now you have to factor in unlock fee, IF it works.
For $261 Euros (US $305) you could have gotten mint US998 already unlocked.
Good luck.
There's no free unlock for T-Mobile. You can't convert to another variant which is carrier unlocked.
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let´s see if this service will work, it´s for t mobile, not expensive, 5 euros
and for 261 euros in ebay there is nothing!!!
this 270 euros includes the post and taxes , so for a lg v30+ it´s a great deal..
"Service Supports ALL IMEI:
Clean, Blacklisted, Under Contract, Unpaid, Barred
This service does not include BLACKLIST removal
*** Blacklisted LG Phones will not work in North America (USA-Canada) ***
This listing is for the following:
LG -
G2, G3, G4, G5, G6, K7, K10, K20+, G STYLO, STYLO II, STYLO III PLUS, V10, V20, V30, V30+, LEON, ARISTOLG - V10 (H901) , V20 (H918) , V30 (H932) , V30+ (H932U)G2 (D801) , G3 (D851) , G4 (H811) , G5 (H830) , G6 (H872)ARISTO (M210)G STYLO (H631) , STYLO 2 (K550) , STYLO 3 (TP450)LEON (H345)K7 (K330) , K10 (K428SG) , K20+ (TP260)"
dentedilupo said:
let´s see if this service will work, it´s for t mobile, not expensive, 5 euros
and for 261 euros in ebay there is nothing!!!
this 270 euros includes the post and taxes , so for a lg v30+ it´s a great deal..
"Service Supports ALL IMEI:
Clean, Blacklisted, Under Contract, Unpaid, Barred
This service does not include BLACKLIST removal
*** Blacklisted LG Phones will not work in North America (USA-Canada) ***
This listing is for the following:
LG -
G2, G3, G4, G5, G6, K7, K10, K20+, G STYLO, STYLO II, STYLO III PLUS, V10, V20, V30, V30+, LEON, ARISTOLG - V10 (H901) , V20 (H918) , V30 (H932) , V30+ (H932U)G2 (D801) , G3 (D851) , G4 (H811) , G5 (H830) , G6 (H872)ARISTO (M210)G STYLO (H631) , STYLO 2 (K550) , STYLO 3 (TP450)LEON (H345)K7 (K330) , K10 (K428SG) , K20+ (TP260)"
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There is $305 mint US998 in eBay two f days ago. I saw it myself. It's still there. See screenshot. You aren't looking right.
dentedilupo said:
and for 261 euros in ebay there is nothing!!!
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You're wrong. US $305 = 261 Euros, current exchange rate at this moment.
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(I would use Unlocked version on Tmobile) No bloat with Unlocked version and T mobile folks said tether will work fine etc. i.e. Tmobile software not needed. Looking for suggestions for either phone. Thx in advance.
the b&h version doesnt come out until may 11th just fyi.
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the b&h version doesnt come out until may 11th just fyi.
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B&H site now says May 1st. I called LG but was unable to get any scoop.
It would be great to get feedback from the forum on whether it would make sense to wait for the unlocked version or just get the T mobile verison now.
Thx
The RS988 would work just fine on T-Mobile. It will most likely receive less updates than the T-Mobile variant. For example the US991 Unbranded G4 that B&H sells still doesn't have Marshmallow. I'd assume the trend to continue.
RS988 comes SIM unlocked out of the box.. while the T-Mobile version does not but depending on if you buy it outright or are in good standing sometimes T-Mobile will unlock the SIM.
Bootloader on the RS988 will be locked. I'd expect T-Mobiles version to have a better shot at bootloader unlock... but maybe not. RS988 certainly has no edge over the T-Mobile version here tho. Both are locked at the moment. T-Mobil's may eventually get unlocked officially from T-Mobil update in the future... RS988 has no shot at that and it will take a bootloader exploit to unlock.
You can't really lose either way in my opinion... though you get more free perks with the T-Mobile version. Free 360 camera for those who buy tmo model until April 5th (tomorrow).. on top of the battery.
autoprime said:
The RS988 would work just fine on T-Mobile. It will most likely receive less updates than the T-Mobile variant. For example the US991 Unbranded G4 that B&H sells still doesn't have Marshmallow. I'd assume the trend to continue.
RS988 comes SIM unlocked out of the box.. while the T-Mobile version does not but depending on if you buy it outright or are in good standing sometimes T-Mobile will unlock the SIM.
Bootloader on the RS988 will be locked. I'd expect T-Mobiles version to have a better shot at bootloader unlock... but maybe not. RS988 certainly has no edge over the T-Mobile version here tho. Both are locked at the moment. T-Mobil's may eventually get unlocked officially from T-Mobil update in the future... RS988 has no shot at that and it will take a bootloader exploit to unlock.
You can't really lose either way in my opinion... though you get more free perks with the T-Mobile version. Free 360 camera for those who buy tmo model until April 5th (tomorrow).. on top of the battery.
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Awesome, just the feedback I was looking for. I'll grab the T-mobile version and report back. Don't laugh...I'm transitioning from WebOs. I look forward to educating myself about the G5 and Android with the help of this site. Thanks again!
autoprime said:
The RS988 would work just fine on T-Mobile. It will most likely receive less updates than the T-Mobile variant. For example the US991 Unbranded G4 that B&H sells still doesn't have Marshmallow. I'd assume the trend to continue.
RS988 comes SIM unlocked out of the box.. while the T-Mobile version does not but depending on if you buy it outright or are in good standing sometimes T-Mobile will unlock the SIM.
Bootloader on the RS988 will be locked. I'd expect T-Mobiles version to have a better shot at bootloader unlock... but maybe not. RS988 certainly has no edge over the T-Mobile version here tho. Both are locked at the moment. T-Mobil's may eventually get unlocked officially from T-Mobil update in the future... RS988 has no shot at that and it will take a bootloader exploit to unlock.
You can't really lose either way in my opinion... though you get more free perks with the T-Mobile version. Free 360 camera for those who buy tmo model until April 5th (tomorrow).. on top of the battery.
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well damn that sucks. i want the unlocked version cause im not sure which carrier i want to choose.
B&H Photo email about bootloader
svengalis said:
well damn that sucks. i want the unlocked version cause im not sure which carrier i want to choose.
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I can't say this is reliable yet as B&H model isn't actually available yet but I emailed them last week about this , tech support guy named Adam emailed back this week saying the bootloader is unlocked, I emailed back asking if he knew the difference between sims unlocked and bootloader unlocked, he said yes and confirmed bootloader also unlocked- I am a skeptic until I see it but, imho I do think it would give them an edge in sales and they have no vested interest in the carriers so I'm waiting to see (I also want it now but...) I also wonder if software will have less bloat. I'm thinking that all US models will all be locked but LG will give the unlock codes out for international models as they are claiming to be friendly to developers, and B&H has a good chance to be in that same boat. Still have hope for this
Only one bloat app on tmobile are T mobile acct app....evrythig else you can delete
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Another thing that has me scratching my head, is how come they're the only ones that are selling this model?
I tried looking elsewhere online and don't see any major retailer selling it.
B&H model thoughts
I am still waiting to see what B&H model looks like (mostly because the money is short this month) but after reading more on this thread, I am leaning more towards the T-Mobile version, mainly because I would probably get better product support should the phone have problems in the beginning, also willing to wait for unlock when/if it comes. mail orders are risky and no one knows what this variant will be like until they get one and then they would probably have to deal with LG for problems after 30 days - while B&H doesn't have a vested interest in carriers, they also don't have an interest in getting the bootloader unlocked (if locked, and this sounds likely despite what I was told).
T-Mobile also has EVS out of the box
Another reason to consider the T-Mobile version is it has Enhanced Voice Services (EVS) enabled out of the box where as the unlocked version may never get it. Might not be a big deal but if your on T-Mobile already, why not go with it.
PDXG5 said:
Awesome, just the feedback I was looking for. I'll grab the T-mobile version and report back. Don't laugh...I'm transitioning from WebOs. I look forward to educating myself about the G5 and Android with the help of this site. Thanks again!
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My wife's G4 was purchased from B&H four months ago and received the marshmallow update two weeks after we got it.
update on B&H vs T-Mobile version bands
I just found a post here at xda forums about the variant lg g5 models - what I've been waiting for to make a decision on T-Mobile vs B&H choice. this may or may not matter to everyone. I notice a slight difference in the bands among variants, might be important to allow full range of carriers before deciding. I would look at this link to see if the missing bands are important (T-Mobile is not very good in my area so having more available bands in the B&H model would be important to me if these stats are accurate.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g5/how-to/info-autos-g5-thread-t3350648
here is another link on variant LTE bands:
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Chea...on-T-Mobile-and-Sprint-use-in-the-USA_id77933
So after using an LG G5 VS987 for a few weeks I decided I wanted the RS988 for the unlocked bootloader so I can have full control of my phone. Upon receiving my phone today I took my SIM out of the VS987 and put it in the RS988. The phone started working on 4G within a few minutes and I was browsing the internet and downloading apps no problem. I tried a test call and it worked fine (albeit on LTE). I even video called a verizon S5 and video chatted without issue. The problem I am having is that the phone will NOT send or receive text messages. Could this be a problem with it not working right on 3G (CDMA) since I notice when I send texts sometimes my old phone would go to 3g for a second and this one just fails. The APN settings were blank on the RS988 so I changed them to VZWINTERNET like on the VS987 and the 4G stopped working alltogether I verified the phone is indeed an RS988 in the about phone>hardware menu so I am not sure why it isn't working. I did notice that this phone after factory resetting had a "Cellcom" background. Could that have anything to do with it? I need to return this phone anyway since the GPS will not get a lock even on raw GPS but can anyone verify their RS988 worked on Verizon for 3G? Thanks a bunch!
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I also have the RS988 (from BHPhoto) and use it with Verizon for a few months, now on AT&T GoPhone, and didn't have any problem. Put my Samsung Note 4 SIM into the G5 RS988, verified the APN, and worked fine. You are on Software 10d, the newest is 11d, so should update to it and reset the phone.
If it still having problems, check with Verizon it the phone (IMEI) is setup correct on their end. They may want to send out a new SIM if still having a problem.
GPS locks on mine a lot quicker than on my old Note 4.
So it sounds like you may have a bad unit. Where did you buy it from?
FAUguy said:
I also have the RS988 (from BHPhoto) and use it with Verizon for a few months, now on AT&T GoPhone, and didn't have any problem. Put my Samsung Note 4 SIM into the G5 RS988, verified the APN, and worked fine. You are on Software 10d, the newest is 11d, so should update to it and reset the phone.
If it still having problems, check with Verizon it the phone (IMEI) is setup correct on their end. They may want to send out a new SIM if still having a problem.
GPS locks on mine a lot quicker than on my old Note 4.
So it sounds like you may have a bad unit. Where did you buy it from?
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Thanks for the reply. I bought it from an eBay vendor. When I check for system updates it says my device is up to date. I wonder if it is looking for a "Cellcom" approved update? I cannot figure out how to flash the new firmware myself. Everyone seems to use the LGUP tool but every link I found is from a third party site and not LG themselves
striker1211 said:
Thanks for the reply. I bought it from an eBay vendor. When I check for system updates it says my device is up to date. I wonder if it is looking for a "Cellcom" approved update? I cannot figure out how to flash the new firmware myself. Everyone seems to use the LGUP tool but every link I found is from a third party site and not LG themselves
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It looks like you may have been sold a phone that was used by CellComm at some point, so even though it is the RS988, it isn't the same "unlocked" RS988 that was sold by BHPhoto. I'd suggest returning it for a refund if you are able, and say that the item is defective and doesn't work as described.
http://www.cellcom.com/device.html?id=668&categoryid=1&navtype=personal#.WQZ9XYm3MVk
Thanks again for the reply FAUguy. I have already requested the return and got the label so I am just going to reset it and send it back. The GPS issue was kind of a blessing in disguise because the camera lens on this Cellcom RS988 was kinda scratched too. Hopefully the cellcomm thing is also was why I couldn't send texts I will update this thread once I get my next RS988. Thanks!
striker1211 said:
Thanks again for the reply FAUguy. I have already requested the return and got the label so I am just going to reset it and send it back. The GPS issue was kind of a blessing in disguise because the camera lens on this Cellcom RS988 was kinda scratched too. Hopefully the cellcomm thing is also was why I couldn't send texts I will update this thread once I get my next RS988. Thanks!
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At this point, I wouldn't see myself buying the G5 unless it was for half of what it cost me back in Nov ($450). Would either go with the G6/V20 or S8. The G5 is OK, but hardware wise it feels a bit dated, and still no Android 7 update for it. But the main thing I don't like is the display, colors are dull and lacking. Still prefer AMOLED at this point.
FAUguy said:
At this point, I wouldn't see myself buying the G5 unless it was for half of what it cost me back in Nov ($450). Would either go with the G6/V20 or S8. The G5 is OK, but hardware wise it feels a bit dated, and still no Android 7 update for it. But the main thing I don't like is the display, colors are dull and lacking. Still prefer AMOLED at this point.
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The removable battery is a requirement I have so it was either the G5 or the V20. The V20 was too big for me so I went G5. I am coming from a Galaxy S5 which has served me well. I am sad that they are getting away from removable batteries I felt the same way when they did away with keyboards (I loved my Droid 4). The VS987 I got for $190 shipped, the RS988 I got for $206 shipped, and the RS988 I just ordered was $220 but it looks to be in MUCH better shape than this GPS-dud was.
striker1211 said:
The removable battery is a requirement I have so it was either the G5 or the V20. The V20 was too big for me so I went G5. I am coming from a Galaxy S5 which has served me well. I am sad that they are getting away from removable batteries I felt the same way when they did away with keyboards (I loved my Droid 4). The VS987 I got for $190 shipped, the RS988 I got for $206 shipped, and the RS988 I just ordered was $220 but it looks to be in MUCH better shape than this GPS-dud was.
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I can understand about the removable battery, and I actually have two LG OEM batteries and two Extended batteries I got from Amazon. But I've only had to swap it out during the course of a day only on one occasion.
The G5 on BHPhoto had gone down in price, very attractive offer. When I got it for $450 it included the Cam Plus attachment and the VR, both I only used once are pretty much useless. Coming from the Note 2/3/4, the G5 display was the biggest let-down for me. Also, I think my G4 took better pictures (in Auto) but o do love the Manual model and wide angle on the G5.
I personally am waiting on the Note 8 before I make any decisions on what to go with this year. I wasn't a fan of the the larger curves on the S7 Edge and Note 7, but they have lessened the curve angle this year. Also, an LED indicator on the front is a must, and the G6 doesn't have one.
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1239313-REG/lg_lgrs988_ausatn_g5_rs988_32gb_smartphone.html
Just to update, got the new RS988 and it is working great. I still cannot verify that 3G CDMA is working properly since whenever I enter the Phone information menu to change it to CDMA only like on my old S5 it says "This application does not work on this device" and closes :| I am able to send and receive texts now with the stock LG texting app. I will keep researching the apparent lockout of forcing 3G since it has saved my butt a few times out in the boonies where 4g wouldn't stay steady and it was failing to fall to 3g :/
striker1211 said:
Just to update, got the new RS988 and it is working great. I still cannot verify that 3G CDMA is working properly since whenever I enter the Phone information menu to change it to CDMA only like on my old S5 it says "This application does not work on this device" and closes :| I am able to send and receive texts now with the stock LG texting app. I will keep researching the apparent lockout of forcing 3G since it has saved my butt a few times out in the boonies where 4g wouldn't stay steady and it was failing to fall to 3g :/
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Good that you got a working unit now If yours is a true RS988 (not a cellcom one), you can unlock it and root of as well now and hopefully soon will be able to use custom ROMs . Also, if you root your phone you can use an app to disable 4G too.
jeffsga88 said:
. Also, if you root your phone you can use an app to disable 4G too.
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Thanks for the reply. So if root is installed you can access the "hidden" menu just fine? Have you done this? I really see no reason to root now considering the wifi hotspot works without an entitlement check but if I could switch to 3G only it would be worth it... I'd just hate to block myself from using Android Pay for a "maybe" you know Thanks again.
striker1211 said:
Thanks for the reply. So if root is installed you can access the "hidden" menu just fine? Have you done this? I really see no reason to root now considering the wifi hotspot works without an entitlement check but if I could switch to 3G only it would be worth it... I'd just hate to block myself from using Android Pay for a "maybe" you know Thanks again.
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Well, doubt root would allow you to use the hidden menu (if it's locked out by lg, root wouldn't change that) to do it but it would allow you to use an app (like network monitor or a network switcher app) to control it. Also, as far as Android pay, it works with root as long as you are using magisk for root and not SuperSU. Only issue the rs988 may have for now is not being able to install a kernel that hides that the bootloader is unlocked (which Android pay detects), although that should hopefully happen given some time. Another possibility is going to an Los based ROM when one is released, which again will hopefully be soon. Maybe best bet is to just wait and see where development goes in next few weeks before rooting or anything the rs988 just recently got unlocked.
I am looking at the same issue. I have ordered an RS988 from a vendor on ebay to use on my existing Verizon account. I'm starting to get nervous. Will I have any issues? Is it better to contact Verizon prior to opening the phone. I currently have an iPhone 6, will the sim work or do I need a new one?
This is my first experience with an unlocked phone. I would like to be able to move it if I want to. But right now, where I live, Verizon is the only good choice.
Hello Striker1211 - A quick question for you (or anyone else on this forum) re: the LG G5 RS988 >> I am also looking to get this unlocked phone to use on Verizon soon.
I had planned to get it from B & H, because I'm being extra cautious considering all the problems you hear about the G5, and I figured A) They have a 30-day return/exchange policy, and B) I live in New York City, so I could return or exchange in person if the phone exhibits any problems.
B & H's price is $330 at the moment, and while I would like to save $100 and order from eBay as you have, I would worry about not having the 1-year warranty from LG , which I imagine is very useful should any problems arise after 30 days.
Am I being too careful in not ordering from eBay? It seems without the first month grace period to exchange, postage hassles, and either short or no LG warranty at all, physically walking into a store for purchasing peace-of-mind might be worth it? What do you all think?
P.S. Best Buy has the LG RS988 for $350, but with a 14-day return policy, plus re-stocking fee.
VonDrake2 said:
Hello Striker1211 - A quick question for you (or anyone else on this forum) re: the LG G5 RS988 >> I am also looking to get this unlocked phone to use on Verizon soon.
I had planned to get it from B & H, because I'm being extra cautious considering all the problems you hear about the G5, and I figured A) They have a 30-day return/exchange policy, and B) I live in New York City, so I could return or exchange in person if the phone exhibits any problems.
B & H's price is $330 at the moment, and while I would like to save $100 and order from eBay as you have, I would worry about not having the 1-year warranty from LG , which I imagine is very useful should any problems arise after 30 days.
Am I being too careful in not ordering from eBay? It seems without the first month grace period to exchange, postage hassles, and either short or no LG warranty at all, physically walking into a store for purchasing peace-of-mind might be worth it? What do you all think?
P.S. Best Buy has the LG RS988 for $350, but with a 14-day return policy, plus re-stocking fee.
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Personally, I'd recommend going through b&h. The 30 day return policy is nice and they also have cheap full coverage protection if you want and you also ensure you'll get the full 1 year warranty from LG as well. I've purchased from them before G2 and RS988 and had no issues with them including returning the RS988 to get the h830. If stay away from eBay if you're worried about warranty or return periods. Also not a fan of best buy hitting you with a restocking fee.
Thanks jeffsga88 for the advice - I figured B&H was probably the better deal, but it's nice to have another person confirm it!
I grabbed my V30 Canadian Edition (LGH933) the day it came out (Oct 31 2017) and have been fairly happy with it so far. I noticed about a month ago some yellow discoloration on the screen near the top and top-sides, and ended up sending it in for warranty repair last week. LG had me send it to a third-party for it, called FutureTel, and they have claimed the phone has been Modified/Rooted and is therefore not eligible for warranty repair.
This is the screenshot they've sent me as their proof:https://i.imgur.com/3CJeTYM.png
Now, the LGH933 (Canadian version) is not listed under the "Supported Devices" for bootloader unlock here: https://developer.lge.com/resource/mobile/RetrieveBootloader.dev And their "tool" is still showing that some mounting flag has been modified. I have a suspicion that it might be related to an app I had on, from the play store, called Package Disabler for LG, which needed to be added as a Device Administrator in order for it to work. This is just a guess though, because I have seen one other reddit thread about this problem but he did not use the app (the app he thought caused it was a Wakelock app).
Now they want me to either pay up $600 CAD for the repair, or pay $40 CAD to get the phone shipped back to me. Both of which are leaving me feel very cheated, as I truly believe that I have not modified my phone's firmware like they're claiming.
I'm looking for any help on this issue. It's very scarey to me if the tool they're using the validate warranties is returning these results for a phone that has not been rooted, then how many people might get cheated out of a valid warranty.
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I grabbed my V30 Canadian Edition (LGH933) the day it came out (Oct 31 2017) and have been fairly happy with it so far. I noticed about a month ago some yellow discoloration on the screen near the top and top-sides, and ended up sending it in for warranty repair last week. LG had me send it to a third-party for it, called FutureTel, and they have claimed the phone has been Modified/Rooted and is therefore not eligible for warranty repair.
This is the screenshot they've sent me as their proof:https://i.imgur.com/3CJeTYM.png
Now, the LGH933 (Canadian version) is not listed under the "Supported Devices" for bootloader unlock here: https://developer.lge.com/resource/mobile/RetrieveBootloader.dev And their "tool" is still showing that some mounting flag has been modified. I have a suspicion that it might be related to an app I had on, from the play store, called Package Disabler for LG, which needed to be added as a Device Administrator in order for it to work. This is just a guess though, because I have seen one other reddit thread about this problem but he did not use the app (the app he thought caused it was a Wakelock app).
Now they want me to either pay up $600 CAD for the repair, or pay $40 CAD to get the phone shipped back to me. Both of which are leaving me feel very cheated, as I truly believe that I have not modified my phone's firmware like they're claiming.
I'm looking for any help on this issue. It's very scarey to me if the tool they're using the validate warranties is returning these results for a phone that has not been rooted, then how many people might get cheated out of a valid warranty.
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Just to be clear, you are claiming you bought your phone brand new and never unlocked the bootloader and rooted it?
I don't care what LG website shows about "supported" bootloader unlock, we've all been able to unlock our V30/V30+/V30S bootloader and root since mid-May 2018 (except for T-Mobile H932). Where have you been? They probably suspect you did that.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=76584629&postcount=193
if you had bought the phone used, I would say someone else did it before you. But buying used, you wouldn't have a warranty.
Sent via open market LG US998 V30/V30+
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Just to be clear, you are claiming you bought your phone brand new and never unlocked the bootloader and rooted it?
I don't care what LG website shows about "supported" bootloader unlock, we've all been able to unlock our V30/V30+/V30S bootloader and root since mid-May 2018 (except for T-Mobile H932). Where have you been? They probably suspect you did that.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=76584629&postcount=193
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Yes, I'm claiming that I have never done that. I was waiting for the supported bootloader unlock.
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Yes, I'm claiming that I have never done that. I was waiting for the supported bootloader unlock.
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Supported bootloader unlock is never coming for the h933.
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Supported bootloader unlock is never coming for the h933.
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Good to know, I guess. But I didn't do any bootloader unlocking whatsoever. I wish I did, but I didn't want to try a non-supported method until the 1 year was done.
Acidictadpole said:
Good to know, I guess. But I didn't do any bootloader unlocking whatsoever. I wish I did, but I didn't want to try a non-supported method until the 1 year was done.
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My wife cracked display on her LG v30 US998, something which is not covered under warranty. So I sent it to LG for an out-of-warranty repair, which cost $146 US dollars + my UPS shipping to LG in Texas. So $164 total. They replaced the display, and my payment to them even included FedEx shipping back to me! It took a week, I got it back a few days ago, it's as good as new.
While it was gone, I switched her over to one of the Sprint LS998 V30+ that I bought cheap off eBay, which I converted to US988 V30+, which DOES have bootloader unlocked. Her V30 was not bootloader unlocked, and is still under the 2 year warranty, but dropped/cracked displays aren't covered under warranty.
If it were 146 dollars then I'd be considering it. But they want $600 Canadian.
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If it were 146 dollars then I'd be considering it. But they want $600 Canadian.
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That's what's strange. That price is almost like a replacement phone, not replacement display...
Since I knew the severely cracked display wasn't covered under warranty, first I went to one of those cell phone display repair franchises. They said they can't source this display and that I needed to send it to LG. So I called LG customer service, I told them the problem, they said it wasn't covered under warranty -- but said they offered out of warranty display repair for $146. And that I had to ship it to them. I said OK.
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That's what's strange. That price is almost like a replacement phone, not replacement display...
Since I knew the severely cracked display wasn't covered under warranty, first I went to one of those cell phone display repair franchises. They said they can't source this display and that I needed to send it to LG. So I called LG they said it wasn't covered under warranty -- but said $146. And that I had to ship it to them. I said OK.
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Yeah their invoice for the repair is just an estimate of $533 + $70 tax. No indication of what it's for.
Did they replace the entire display on yours or just the outer glass? They may have just done the outer glass if it was an option.
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Yeah their invoice for the repair is just an estimate of $533 + $70 tax. No indication of what it's for.
Did they replace the entire display on yours or just the outer glass? They may have just done the outer glass if it was an option.
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LG customer service gave me that price over the phone before they even saw the damaged display.
The actual repair receipt is vague. Lists serial, IMEI, etc and says
SYMPTOM: EXTERNAL PHYSICAL DAMAGE TO THE PHONE.
REPAIR: physical damage.
Warranty type: out of warranty
Lists date received, date returned.
I would post a screenshot but I would need to block off all the serial and IMEI and stuff.
Futuretel is ****ing scum. They're terrible to deal with.
It's also absurd that your hardware issue is being held up by a software setting.
Have you tried calling LG to complain? That's what I had to do when Futuretel was ****ing me over with my G4.
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Futuretel is ****ing scum. They're terrible to deal with.
It's also absurd that your hardware issue is being held up by a software setting.
Have you tried calling LG to complain? That's what I had to do when Futuretel was ****ing me over with my G4.
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What did you say to lg to get then to help? I chatted online with someone but they were pretty stern saying that if the technician says it's been modified it's no longer in warranty, and they're trusting the technician.
I have an escalation call supposedly incoming sometime today but I am just expecting more crap.
It was for my G4 bootloop, but I had to go back and forth with Futuretel and LG a bunch of times, not due to the problem you're having. I'm sorry, it was a couple years ago now so I can't help much on specifics.
If you didn't get the phone until October 31st, and the phone says it was rooted on 7.31.2017 provide proof of purchase date.
if you aren't being dishonest, you couldn't have rooted a phone not in your possession at the date it says it was.
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If you didn't get the phone until October 31st, and the phone says it was rooted on 7.31.2017 provide proof of purchase date.
if you aren't being dishonest, you couldn't have rooted a phone not in your possession at the date it says it was.
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Good eye! The phone wasn't even released yet on 07.23.2017 (wasn't available for sale) -- so if it was rooted then, LG did it themselves! Maybe sold you some kind of engineering sample? Wasn't released to North America until October 2017.
@Acidictadpole, I would appeal -- as that root was impossible for you to do on that date. Phone was still in South Korea! But VERY possible LG screwed something up on your phone during manufacturing or something.
Sorry to necropost, but I felt it would be better to find a related thread than start a new one. My V30 has a busted screen but it has definitely been modified by me. I was thinking I could trick them by flashing a kdz and relocking the bootloader but clearly that won't work if they run this test. Really hoping that they won't care since it's an out of warranty repair anyway? I loved my V30 and as tempted as I am to get another one or maybe one of those V35s if the bootloader ends up getting unlocked soon, I can't deny that the $146 LG quoted me for the out of warranty repair is cheaper than any of those. Only the corner of my glass is busted up so I feel bad even paying that much for it, but I'm not really willing to carry it around in my pocket because I don't like finding shards of glass in there. All of my Xiaomi phones have newer Android versions anyway so I suppose it's a blessing from a security perspective.
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Sorry to necropost, but I felt it would be better to find a related thread than start a new one. My V30 has a busted screen but it has definitely been modified by me. I was thinking I could trick them by flashing a kdz and relocking the bootloader but clearly that won't work if they run this test. Really hoping that they won't care since it's an out of warranty repair anyway? I loved my V30 and as tempted as I am to get another one or maybe one of those V35s if the bootloader ends up getting unlocked soon, I can't deny that the $146 LG quoted me for the out of warranty repair is cheaper than any of those. Only the corner of my glass is busted up so I feel bad even paying that much for it, but I'm not really willing to carry it around in my pocket because I don't like finding shards of glass in there.
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Yeah, about the same price I paid for LG out-of-warranty repair -- even though my wife's phone was was still under warranty! But broken display is not covered under warranty. Came back good as new!
I was on T-Mobile for years but I could save a lot if I became the 4th phone on a shared unlimited plan on AT&T. So I bought a US998 and I brought it to AT&T to add a line on a bring my own device offer. They have an optional $4/month service which is essentially greatly extended caller ID and it identifies "likely scams" among other things like mobile user caller ID and identifies a lot of things that regular caller ID doesn’t. I had it on T-Mo until earlier today. It, however, requires that the phone be accepted for "HD Voice" which the V30 is but not on AT&T if the IMEI isn’t on "their" list of their phones. It isn’t a matter of the phone having the US998 firmware but that the IMEI doesn’t match. If I understand things correctly, and I don’t know that I do, then even if I bought an H931 from an eBay seller, I'd be unable to activate it with full functionality.
If I'm wrong, then I could return the US998 and buy an H931 and flash it to a us998 and give up some memory (the US998 is a V30+) and some cheap headphones and get the missing features. Or I could go back to T-Mo and spend another $30 a month. Or I could give up the caller ID, Wi-Fi calling, HD voice and a few lesser features.
I found an email form an AT&T rep, back in 2016, saying that they were working on adding all features for users of phones brought to AT&T and that they were working on it. I don’t remember if they implied it was at great urgency. When I was at the store, the people there spent over a half hour trying to activate the service and they couldn’t figure it out. Of course, they merely tried the same failing things over and over and never tried other things like maybe calling AT&T support, or looking it up or even asking people who might have known. When I called and got as supervisor, I was told it didn’t work because it was the policy of AT&T to not offer the services on BYOD phones.
Anyone know anything here? I'd prefer info trhat;'d help me get my6 phone on AT&T wiht the features but I'd settle for knowing tghat it';s not goping to work.
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It, however, requires that the phone be accepted for "HD Voice" which the V30 is but not on AT&T if the IMEI isn’t on "their" list of their phones. It isn’t a matter of the phone having the US998 firmware but that the IMEI doesn’t match. If I understand things correctly, and I don’t know that I do, then even if I bought an H931 from an eBay seller, I'd be unable to activate it with full functionality.
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No, you don't quite understand correctly. They are pressing you to have an AT&T-branded phone, not specifically a phone they personally sell to you. You could buy an H931 off eBay and it would have the IMEI they SAY they are looking for.
Having said that you admit they didn't call AT&T tech support. I would call AT&T tech support myself or go to another AT&T store. If they still say no, then buy an H931 off eBay...
Also, what happens when you flash the H931 TWRP-flashable zip to your US998? That doesn't allow the AT&T features?
from, what I understand, it comes down to provisioning and they describe the process as one with no discretionary range at all. The only issue is whether the IMEI is in the list that can be so provisioned. Whether it is owning a H931 or a phone of their supply is unknown but they do insist it is the latter. I compare it to the issues some people report trying to unlock a phone they say is paid for and others say it is not. The idea being that there is a somewhat fluid master list somewhere and they are saying there is a list of H931s meant for sale by AT&T agents.
I don't believe it either but it appears to be a road block.
So now do I try to return the US998 because I had activation issues with it? On a fairness level, it's not the fault of the eBay reseller who sold me the phone he said he would, and by all accounts, in good working order.
So what would you do, if you accepted my position that I need these features that seem to require an IMEI that AT&T is willing to provision with HD Voice, and the resulting capabilities which only follow on a phone provisioned for HD Voice so I could subscribe for the $4/.month caller ID service. I’d hate to pay another $300 to buy a H931 to find that the problem still exists or that I now have 2 phones when I need one.
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No, you don't quite understand correctly. They are pressing you to have an AT&T-branded phone, not specifically a phone they personally sell to you. You could buy an H931 off eBay and it would have the IMEI they saythey are looking for.
Having said that you admit they didn't call AT&T tech support. I would call AT&T tech support myself or go to another AT&T store. If they still say no, then buy an H931 off eBay...
Also, what happens when you flash the H931 TWRP-flashable zip to your US998? That doesn't allow the AT&T features?
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Bob Simons said:
from, what I understand, it comes down to provisioning and they describe the process as one with no discretionary range at all. The only issue is whether the IMEI is in the list that can be so provisioned. Whether it is owning a H931 or a phone of their supply is unknown but they do insist it is the latter. I compare it to the issues some people report trying to unlock a phone they say is paid for and others say it is not. The idea being that there is a somewhat fluid master list somewhere and they are saying there is a list of H931s meant for sale by AT&T agents.
I don't believe it either but it appears to be a road block.
So now do I try to return the US998 because I had activation issues with it? On a fairness level, it's not the fault of the eBay reseller who sold me the phone he said he would, and by all accounts, in good working order.
So what would you do, if you accepted my position that I need these features that seem to require an IMEI that AT&T is willing to provision with HD Voice, and the resulting capabilities which only follow on a phone provisioned for HD Voice so I could subscribe for the $4/.month caller ID service. I’d hate to pay another $300 to buy a H931 to find that the problem still exists or that I now have 2 phones when I need one.
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I'm going to leave that decision to you.
My sister and brother-in-law both have LS998 V30+ (off eBay) converted to US998 V30+ and they're both on post paid AT&T. He's a successful tech salesperson and they live in a million dollar house.
Another friend of mine (very tech oriented) has postpaid AT&T on native US998 V30 (B&H Photo) and works for a world wide news organization.
I don't know whether they have HD Voice, WiFi calling on their US998 -- but they have never complained about not having it...
They all got this phone on my recommendation, and are using it on postpaid AT&T.
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My wife and I, my mother and two other friends have either native or converted US998 on Prepaid AT&T. I do not have those features, but I like having the lower price of AT&T Prepaid with the speed of postpaid AT&T included vs the lag of AT&T MVNOs.
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But you know your needs better than me. I would just try with another store or AT&T technical support before giving up. If you do return the US998 you can bootloader unlock and root H931. I would activate first to get everything done, before following the WTF instructions.
Sent via open market LG US998 V30/V30+
I just spoke to a so-called supervisor who tells me that the issue is one of supported devices on the BYOD plan. they say that while the H931 as sold by AT&T is a supported device, an h931 not sold by AT&T is somehow fundamentally different and it appears to them as having a different "image" (a term not explained or otherwise defined) and so there is no way that a non AT&T H931 will ever appear on their system, as one of theirs. As not one theirs, they refuse the range of services that include "HD Voice, Wi-Fi calling and enhanced caller ID and a security feature that I don’t know the name of.
They insist that this "image" issue is really true and that anyone with an AT&T supplied H931 and a non-AT&T H931 appear as different devices on their system.
They proposed creating an escalation ticket so that the "back office department" can look to see if there is anything that they can do. They say as things are currently set up there is no option anywhere to authorize a non-AT&T phone but maybe the back-office folks can do it, I’m promised a callback in 24 hours and he is improbably making positive sounding noises. As so much of this makes no sense, I don’t expect qi positive result, but I will give them 24 hours
I'm not casting aspersions on any user of AT&T's postpaid or pre-paid system but I can say that I ne3edc Wi-Fi calling for reception where I work and I want the caller IDF service and have come to want it in the 4 years I’ve been on T-Mobile who offers the same product.
Please don’t think that I'm critiquing anyone who is using any carrier's system to their satisfaction. I'm just saying that I would be significantly troubled by not having Wi-Fi calling as I live and work in areas where there is no calling except once inside buildings and connected to their Wi-Fi LAN. And for whatever reason, I'm being excluded on grounds that seem suspicions.
ChazzMatt said:
I'm going to leave that decision to you.
My sister and brother-in-law both have LS998 V30+ (off eBay) converted to US998 V30+ and they're both on post paid AT&T. He's a successful tech salesperson and they live in a million dollar house.
Another friend of mine (very tech oriented) has postpaid AT&T on native US998 V30 (B&H Photo) and works for a world wide news organization.
I don't know whether they have HD Voice, WiFi calling on their US998 -- but they have never complained about not having it...
They all got this phone on my recommendation, and are using it on postpaid AT&T.
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My wife and I, my mother and two other friends have either native or converted US998 on Prepaid AT&T. I do not have those features, but I like having the lower price of AT&T Prepaid with the speed of postpaid AT&T included vs the lag of AT&T MVNOs.
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can anyone tell me what rom I should use for the H932?
I've just about decided to go back to T-Mo and I need a rom that wont lose root an dwill enable B71 and would like the latest, stockest thing that has been at least partly debloated. Is there any such thing? Is there info for loadng the lastest H932 rom on a US998?
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I just spoke to a so-called supervisor who tells me that the issue is one of supported devices on the BYOD plan. they say that while the H931 as sold by AT&T is a supported device, an h931 not sold by AT&T is somehow fundamentally different and it appears to them as having a different "image" (a term not explained or otherwise defined) and so there is no way that a non AT&T H931 will ever appear on their system, as one of theirs. As not one theirs, they refuse the range of services that include "HD Voice, Wi-Fi calling and enhanced caller ID and a security feature that I don’t know the name of.
They insist that this "image" issue is really true and that anyone with an AT&T supplied H931 and a non-AT&T H931 appear as different devices on their system.
They proposed creating an escalation ticket so that the "back office department" can look to see if there is anything that they can do. They say as things are currently set up there is no option anywhere to authorize a non-AT&T phone but maybe the back-office folks can do it, I’m promised a callback in 24 hours and he is improbably making positive sounding noises. As so much of this makes no sense, I don’t expect qi positive result, but I will give them 24 hours
I'm not casting aspersions on any user of AT&T's postpaid or pre-paid system but I can say that I ne3edc Wi-Fi calling for reception where I work and I want the caller IDF service and have come to want it in the 4 years I’ve been on T-Mobile who offers the same product.
Please don’t think that I'm critiquing anyone who is using any carrier's system to their satisfaction. I'm just saying that I would be significantly troubled by not having Wi-Fi calling as I live and work in areas where there is no calling except once inside buildings and connected to their Wi-Fi LAN. And for whatever reason, I'm being excluded on grounds that seem suspicions.
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I've just about decided to go back to T-Mo and I need a rom that wont lose root an dwill enable B71 and would like the latest, stockest thing that has been at least partly debloated. Is there any such thing? Is there info for loadng the lastest H932 rom on a US998?
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This T-Mobile ROM port for US998 won't give you LTE band 71, but probably everything else:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/development/rom-lg-v30-t-mobile-stock-rom-20s-t3925486
is there any way to get band 71, and wifi calling on a us998?
I just went to a t-mo store with the us998 rom and put a t-mo sim in it and the hd voice calling worked fine although I didn't try Wi-Fi calling yet. But where I live I think b71 would make a huge difference. In any case I want a chance to find out if this is true. This is probably the main reason I bought the V30: my V20 doesn’t even have B71 and I have no reception in way too many places where t-mo says there is coverage. They also imply that most new build out is with b71, and they further imply that all else equal, ,b71 works better as if it's just magic. It seems at last worth checking out if there's a chance. I see some roms change the modems and some do not. Is it likely that that roms that don’t change the modem will not change the lack of b71 so I'd need a rom that includes an h932 modem to even have a chance of b71 working?
Thanks agian for all yuor help.
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This T-Mobile ROM port for US998 won't give you LTE band 71, but probably everything else:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/development/rom-lg-v30-t-mobile-stock-rom-20s-t3925486
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a while ago you said thje us998 had band 71
I'm referring to https://www.xda-developers.com/unlocked-lg-v30-band-71-600-mhz/
If the us998 doesnt have b71, does it if it has the H932 modem?
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I just went to a t-mo store with the us998 rom and put a t-mo sim in it and the hd voice calling worked fine although I didn't try Wi-Fi calling yet. But where I live I think b71 would make a huge difference. In any case I want a chance to find out if this is true. This is probably the main reason I bought the V30: my V20 doesn’t even have B71 and I have no reception in way too many places where t-mo says there is coverage. They also imply that most new build out is with b71, and they further imply that all else equal, ,b71 works better as if it's just magic. It seems at last worth checking out if there's a chance. I see some roms change the modems and some do not. Is it likely that that roms that don’t change the modem will not change the lack of b71 so I'd need a rom that includes an h932 modem to even have a chance of b71 working?
Thanks agian for all yuor help.
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I'm referring to https://www.xda-developers.com/unlocked-lg-v30-band-71-600-mhz/
If the us998 doesnt have b71, does it if it has the H932 modem?
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If you read that article, do you see who he quoted in that article and what thread he linked to? . Someone named ChazzMatt. Go read the thread he links to, please. I started that thread.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/how-to/t-mobile-600-mhz-lte-band-71-s-carrier-t3671351
That was also in September 2017 before the OFFICIAL carrier unlocked (Open Market) US998 V30/V30+ was released. We were hoping the upcoming "official" carrier unlocked US998 (sold by authorized 3rd party retailers like B&H Photo) would ALSO have the new U.S. T-Mobile LTE band 71 -- and one part of T-Mobile SEEMED to be hinting it would... That you could buy EITHER H932 OR the "official" carrier unlocked US998 and have all the T-Mobile bands. These official carrier unlocked phones are called "Open Market" phones by LG; these are the phones that LG usually lists in their LG Bootloader Unlock code eligible list.
Thus the thread I started, and subsequent XDA NEWS article. That turned out to NOT be true. The tweets we misleading.
Even so, we also hoped with root on the "Open Market" US998 we could activate the hidden T-Mobile network menus we could clearly see. THAT is also discussed in the thread.
Yet in all the time since then, no one has had any luck getting T-Mobile LTE band 71 working on any phone except U.S. T-Mobile H932.
@runningnak3d, the dev who ROOTED the T-Mobile H932 currently uses a US998 on T-Mobile. If anyone could get LTE band 71 on T-Mobile with US998, it would be him. . He hasn't, and he says LTE band 71 is not that important for him.
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We also found out the the only difference between the "Open Market" official carrier unlocked US998 V30 (64GB) sold by B&H Photo and the US998 V30 (64 GB) sold by U.S. Cellular is the B&H Photo V30 was secretly eligible for LG bootloader unlock code. One of my V30 used official LG bootloader unlock code, but we had to hack the LG dropdown menu on the LG Dev website to enter the information. LG has NEVER officially announced the Open Market US998 V30 is eligible for bootloader unlock code. That trick/hack does NOT work for the Open Market US998 V30+. So, only one of my phones was bootloader unlocked using that method.
However there was NO DIFFERENCE between the various US998 V30+ (128GB) sold by the any entities. NO US998 V30+ is eligible for LG bootloader unlock code, and ALL US998 V30/V30+ are actually carrier unlocked -- even those sold by U.S. Cellular.
LG was not forthcoming with any of this information. We had to figure it out by ourselves, through trial and error.
With WTF exploit, we are not dependent on LG for bootloader unlock code. But that developments did not happen until May 2018. My US998 V30+ was not bootloader unlocked and rooted until then.
Sent via open market LG US998 V30/V30+
Of course I know it was you. that's why I'm asking you follow up questions.
I'm seeing comments along two theories and I dont i know which is more likely true. Theory one is that the 835 chips come in two types, ones that have band 71 capabilities and those tht dont, or the other theory which is that there are software modems thaat compensate for the lack of included band 71 modems, and where a certain software modem could add the capbility. In effect, some say that the US998 can never get band 71 and others say for example, that if you knew what you were doing wiht the Shortcut Master you could add the band, or alternatively, you could flash the correct rom or modem.
And so I start doing my homework and sure enough, you show up as one of the few that know anything about it.
I have no idea but I keep being told that things arent going to go the way I want them to. I'm hoping that I can get band 71 using this phone because I just bought this phone and I need or think I need band 71. It is why I bougnt this phone.
How do things look for me getting band 71? My clever plan to go to AT&T failed rather dramatically by my standards, even if you think I should be fine without the functions that so many people don't care about. Out in the boonies, T-Mpo is putting most of their efforts into band 71 and I spent a lot of time driving where there is no reception and I'm told there'd be a lot more if I could get that band. that's mainly why I bought the new phone as the V20 still works about the same, not getting band 71 every day.
I'm trying to learn about this phone after 2+ years with the H918 but I'll never pick up what you know any time soon, so I'm asking you.
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If you read that article, do you see who he quoted in that article and what thread he linked to? . Someone named ChazzMatt. Go read the thread he links to, please. I started that thread.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/how-to/t-mobile-600-mhz-lte-band-71-s-carrier-t3671351
That was also in September 2017 before the OFFICIAL carrier unlocked (Open Market) US998 V30/V30+ was released. We were hoping the upcoming "official" carrier unlocked US998 (sold by authorized 3rd party retailers like B&H Photo) would ALSO have the new U.S. T-Mobile LTE band 71 -- and one part of T-Mobile SEEMED to be hinting it would... That you could buy EITHER H932 OR the "official" carrier unlocked US998 and have all the T-Mobile bands. These official carrier unlocked phones are called "Open Market" phones by LG; these are the phones that LG usually lists in their LG Bootloader Unlock code eligible list.
Thus the thread I started, and subsequent XDA NEWS article. That turned out to NOT be true. The tweets we misleading.
Even so, we also hoped with root on the "Open Market" US998 we could activate the hidden T-Mobile network menus we could clearly see. THAT is also discussed in the thread.
Yet in all the time since then, no one has had any luck getting T-Mobile LTE band 71 working on any phone except U.S. T-Mobile H932.
@runningnak3d, the dev who ROOTED the T-Mobile H932 currently uses a US998 on T-Mobile. If anyone could get LTE band 71 on T-Mobile with US998, it would be him. . He hasn't, and he says LTE band 71 is not that important for him.
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We also found out the the only difference between the "official" carrier unlocked US998 V30 (64GB) sold by B&H Photo and the US998 V30 (64 GB) sold by U.S. Cellular is the B&H Photo V30 was secretly eligible for LG bootloader unlock code. One of my V30 used official LG bootloader unlock code, but we had to hack the LG dropdown menu on the LG Dev website to enter the information. LG has NEVER officially announced the Open Market US998 V30 is eligible. That does NOT work for the Open Market US998 V30+. So, only one of my phones was bootloader unlocked using that method.
However there was NO DIFFERENCE between the various US998 V30+ (128GB) sold by the any entities. NO US998 V30+ is eligible for LG bootloader unlock code, and ALL US998 V30/V30+ are actually carrier unlocked -- even those sold by U.S. Cellular.
LG was not forthcoming with any of this information. We had to figure it out by ourselves, through trial and error.
With WTF exploit, we are not dependent on LG for bootloader unlock code. But that developments did not happen until May 2018. My US998 V30+ was not bootloader unlocked and rooted until then.
Sent via open market LG US998 V30/V30+
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Bob Simons said:
Of course I know it was you. that's why I'm asking you follow up questions.
I'm seeing comments along two theories and I dont i know which is more likely true. Theory one is that the 835 chips come in two types, ones that have band 71 capabilities and those tht dont, or the other theory which is that there are software modems thaat compensate for the lack of included band 71 modems, and where a certain software modem could add the capbility. In effect, some say that the US998 can never get band 71 and others say for example, that if you knew what you were doing wiht the Shortcut Master you could add the band, or alternatively, you could flash the correct rom or modem.
And so I start doing my homework and sure enough, you show up as one of the few that know anything about it.
I have no idea but I keep being told that things arent going to go the way I want them to. I'm hoping that I can get band 71 using this phone because I just bought this phone and I need or think I need band 71. It is why I bougnt this phone.
How do things look for me getting band 71? My clever plan to go to AT&T failed rather dramatically by my standards, even if you think I should be fine without the functions that so many people don't care about. Out in the boonies, T-Mpo is putting most of their efforts into band 71 and I spent a lot of time driving where there is no reception and I'm told there'd be a lot more if I could get that band. that's mainly why I bought the new phone as the V20 still works about the same, not getting band 71 every day.
I'm trying to learn about this phone after 2+ years with the H918 but I'll never pick up what you know any time soon, so I'm asking you.
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Bob, if you knew I wrote it and had already read the thread -- then why did you bring it up? If you read the thread you know it's not possible, as far as we know. I spent a lot of time trying to explain all that in my post and you already knew it. I didn't know how up to speed you were. If you had said, "I read this article, I read the whole thread, is there anything new, yes or no?" I would have simply said no, nothing new. Move on.
You are making my head hurt.
Here are your choices:
Go buy a new AT&T H931 from AT&T.
Go buy a mint AT&T H931 off Swappa you KNOW was bought from AT&T. Swappa instead of eBay this time because they check IMEI, etc before letting it be sold. Having been bought from AT&T rather than leftover stock from some warehouse, it SHOULD be in the AT&T system as eligible for all the stuff you want. If you are uncertain, then go buy straight from AT&T.
Go buy a T-mobile H931 if you want to stay with T-mobile and get LTE band 71.
no, I didnt understand and now I do
thanks. i thought it was supposed to be possible.
so my best bet is to get a 931 so I can pay less.
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Bob, if you knew I wrote it and had already read the thread -- then why did you bring it up? If you read the thread you know it's not possible, as far as we know. I spent a lot of time trying to explain all that in my post and you already knew it. I didn't know how up to speed you were. If you had said, "I read this article, I read the whole thread, is there anything new, yes or no?" I would have simply said no, nothing new. Move on.
You are making my head hurt.
Here are your choices:
Go buy a new AT&T H931 from AT&T.
Go buy a mint AT&T H931 off Swappa you KNOW was bought from AT&T. Swappa instead of eBay this time because they check IMEI, etc before letting you sell it. Having been bought from AT&T rather than leftover stock from some warehouse, it will be in the AT&T system as eligible for all the stuff you want.
Go buy a T-mobile H931 if you want to stay with T-mobile and get LTE band 71.
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Bob Simons said:
thanks. i thought it was supposed to be possible.
so my best bet is to get a 931 so I can pay less.
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This tweet from T-mobile was what got our hopes up. The "unlocked" was the US998.
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yes, and stuff like that make my head explode and made me think that there was some way.
So now I have to see if I can return this ebay phone that I've rooted and go buy something else.
I can go to your page at https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/development/us998-lg-v30-market-us998-t3736910
do you know which of the trwo (10c or 10d) is the 7.1.2 my phone came with?
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This tweet from T-mobile was basically a lie and got our hopes up.
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This question is for anyone who has a pixel 6, or really any new pixel (5, 5a, 4a) on At&T or Firstnet (same policies).
Does ATT's Sim unlock also enable Bootloader unlock. (Ungrey the setting in dev options and allow root).
Trying to confirm what this user said: https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/at-t-pixel-5-is-carrier-locked.4195785/post-84100651
For anyone who says "Just buy a Google one", I can't. I'm a first responder and need a full firstnet capable device. I also don't have $900 to spend on a pixel 6 pro, especially when FirstNet is discounting the mmwave + sub 6 pixel 6 $200 for first responders.
THIS IS FOR TMOBILE but is prob similar on ATT -- i have owned several tmobile oneplus devices, as well as countless other tmobile devices. can't help but trade in my old junk, you know? anyway, if you are getting your phone on EIP, then you will need to stay on the network for 40 days before you can ask tmobile to SIM unlock your phone. and they will do it. no questions. just make sure that phone is activated on the tmo network for 40 days. this is for SIM unlock.
alternatively, you can pay the phone off in full. then tmobile will SIM unlock it for your sooner. again, this is SIM unlock.
alternatively (#2), there's a guy on XDA who does this for Tmobile. he requires 3 days of active service. there may be someone similar for ATT.
once you are SIM unlocked, the OEM UNLOCKING toggle becomes active. at that point you can turn it on.
from there, its a matter of using fastboot commands to unlock the bootloader. or whatever other methods are necessary on a pixel phone. i've owned oneplus phones for the last 8 years so this will all be new to me when i get my pixel 6 in a couple days.
kramer987 said:
THIS IS FOR TMOBILE but is prob similar on ATT -- i have owned several tmobile oneplus devices, as well as countless other tmobile devices. can't help but trade in my old junk, you know? anyway, if you are getting your phone on EIP, then you will need to stay on the network for 40 days before you can ask tmobile to SIM unlock your phone. and they will do it. no questions. just make sure that phone is activated on the tmo network for 40 days. this is for SIM unlock.
alternatively, you can pay the phone off in full. then tmobile will SIM unlock it for your sooner. again, this is SIM unlock.
alternatively (#2), there's a guy on XDA who does this for Tmobile. he requires 3 days of active service. there may be someone similar for ATT.
once you are SIM unlocked, the OEM UNLOCKING toggle becomes active. at that point you can turn it on.
from there, its a matter of using fastboot commands to unlock the bootloader. or whatever other methods are necessary on a pixel phone. i've owned oneplus phones for the last 8 years so this will all be new to me when i get my pixel 6 in a couple days.
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Did you get your pixel yet?
opz187 said:
Did you get your pixel yet?
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yes about a week ago
kramer987 said:
yes about a week ago
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Do you know who that guy is on XDA that helps with the unlocks for T-Mobile?
kramer987 said:
opz187 said:
Do you know who that guy is on XDA that helps with the unlocks for T-Mobile?
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yea. mobbdeep
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I chatted TMobile on Facebook and they unlocked me tho even tho I'm on EIP
Yes. I purchased a Pixel 6 from AT&T and have subsequently paid it off and unlocked it. My OEM unlocking toggle is no longer grayed out.
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Did you have to fill out their online web form , or put in the new sim for it to ungrey out ? How long did it take to allow you to change the setting?
Also thanks for answering. This is good news.
Interesting. Does anyone know if you have to have an AT&T account to purchase an AT&T phone at full retail price (ie: without buying it on a plan and then paying it off)?
I wonder if it would be possible to purchase an AT&T Pixel 6 outright so it's unlocked, unlock the bootloader, and use it on Verizon (with full Sub-6 and mmWave support).
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Did you have to fill out their online web form , or put in the new sim for it to ungrey out ? How long did it take to allow you to change the setting?
Also thanks for answering. This is good news.
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I filled out the online web form and then waited a few hours until I received confirmation that the device was unlocked.
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Interesting. Does anyone know if you have to have an AT&T account to purchase an AT&T phone at full retail price (ie: without buying it on a plan and then paying it off)?
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It looks like you would have to have an account and choose a plan, but you could cancel it immediately if you bought the phone at full price. At worst you would have to pay $30 for activation, but hopefully not.
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I wonder if it would be possible to purchase an AT&T Pixel 6 outright so it's unlocked, unlock the bootloader, and use it on Verizon (with full Sub-6 and mmWave support).
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It should be possible to do that.
rrob13 said:
It looks like you would have to have an account and choose a plan, but you could cancel it immediately if you bought the phone at full price. At worst you would have to pay $30 for activation, but hopefully not.
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Seems doable.
I wonder if the VZ and/or AT&T variant of the firmware is needed for mmWave to function correctly or if the "global," non carrier-specific firmware still includes drivers for mmWave (even though the global variant of the phone lacks a mmWave modem).
Probably a stretch, but I figure it's worth asking: You wouldn't happen to have access to and/or know somebody that has a 5G Verizon phone with a 5G sim you could test it with, do you? Even better would be in an area with known-working 5G mmWave.
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I wonder if the VZ and/or AT&T variant of the firmware is needed for mmWave to function correctly or if the "global," non carrier-specific firmware still includes drivers for mmWave (even though the global variant of the phone lacks a mmWave modem).
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Good question. I had assumed the mmWave capability was hardware-dependent. Honestly I'm not sure.
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Probably a stretch, but I figure it's worth asking: You wouldn't happen to have access to and/or know somebody that has a 5G Verizon phone with a 5G sim you could test it with, do you? Even better would be in an area with known-working 5G mmWave.
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Unfortunately no.