Hi guys,
Although I'm not a totally newbie, I mean I installed Honeycomb on the OG Desire watch out for the volume tho, but I'm totally new to the Huawei thingq, although I've owned a Ascend Mate 7 and a P9+ I never went as far as looking for root and custom ROMs, and I'm specially not educated in the whole architectural changes that treble brings.
So I've a few questions, and hopefully someone can clear some of them for me.
1- Unlocked BL means no OTA right? Also not via Firmware Finder?
2- Running stock, if a new update pops up on the web, I download the .zip and extract everything. I can flash the systems but I'm missing lots of things there, fixes on the kernel, and other stuff. Should I flash them all? Is it recommend? Or are the risks to high? Should I wait for the specific rom to be signed for my IMEI or am I okay as long as I choose the right branding (Europe for me).
3- And having magisk root... Does will it make flashing a new update any complicated?
4 - (and the last), when running a AOSP rom, is it possible/recommend to extract a new stock kernel and flash it when an update is available?
Thanks a lot
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Hi!
Im proudly owner of motorola milestone. It was great phone with blocked bootloader, but I'm old and I had in my live some "normal phone" so I didnt cry about locked BL. I simply dont need unlocked BL because in time when I play with Stone We had a lot of rom by recovery.
But from time when I made some weird things took a lot time and a lot of things change in new smartphones so I have some questions for You.
1) On milestrone I could without problems update 2.1>2.2 and downgrade it to 2.1 with official sbf, and I know Atrix has official update from 2.2 to 2.3. I still can make this without problems? (from 2.2>2.3>2.2 and other ways...)
1a) I saw news about update to ICS, and it Was on motorola page (forgot which one). It will be in this year? (official q3 2012)
2)Do I need to unlock BL to use "roms" from recovery? Or I need recovery only?
(like neutrino / cm7)
3) I will not use any of atrix accessories, it will be for me mp3 player, phone and maybe sometimes game console. I still need to unlock BL? And if yes, for what?
3a) when we are speaking about games, every rom fully support tegra?
4) Is something what I need to know about atrix 4g before I will purchase it?
5) Can any user of this phone who live in germany tell me what about using germany mobile network?
sorry for lame questions and thanks for answers
Aesandar said:
Hi!
Im proudly owner of motorola milestone. It was great phone with blocked bootloader, but I'm old and I had in my live some "normal phone" so I didnt cry about locked BL. I simply dont need unlocked BL because in time when I play with Stone We had a lot of rom by recovery.
But from time when I made some weird things took a lot time and a lot of things change in new smartphones so I have some questions for You.
1) On milestrone I could without problems update 2.1>2.2 and downgrade it to 2.1 with official sbf, and I know Atrix has official update from 2.2 to 2.3. I still can make this without problems? (from 2.2>2.3>2.2 and other ways...)
1a) I saw news about update to ICS, and it Was on motorola page (forgot which one). It will be in this year? (official q3 2012)
2)Do I need to unlock BL to use "roms" from recovery? Or I need recovery only?
(like neutrino / cm7)
3) I will not use any of atrix accessories, it will be for me mp3 player, phone and maybe sometimes game console. I still need to unlock BL? And if yes, for what?
3a) when we are speaking about games, every rom fully support tegra?
4) Is something what I need to know about atrix 4g before I will purchase it?
5) Can any user of this phone who live in germany tell me what about using germany mobile network?
sorry for lame questions and thanks for answers
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1. No. Due to bootloader changes between 2.2 and 2.3 you can't just use an sbf. You can however flash a fruitcake which is just a copy of the boot and system partitions. Doesn't do anything to the bootloader. Your bootloader needs to be unlocked to do this and you will need to flash a customer recovery program such as CWM. However, you can use an sbf if you are going between the same version without unlocking the bootloader. Example 2.3.4 to 2.3.4.
1a. Yes. We will should be seeing an ICS upgrade anytime from now to September.
2. Your bootloader will need to be unlocked and a custom recovery will need to be flashed.
3. If that's all your planning to use it for then there really isn't a reason you will need to unlock the bootloader.
3a. Every rom should as far as I know.
4. Some people report that the battery gets quite hot and causes problems. I'm lucky to say that I've had the phone for over a year and haven't had an issues.
5. Sorry, can't help you with question 5, but I hope I was able to answer the rest of your questions.
so without unlock bootloader I cant use custom recovery? In my MM I have recovery and from this recovery I can start "custom" and from this custom I can recover roms...
And what about update from 2.2 > 2.3, when moto release 2.3 for atrix it should be possible to update it without unlock bootloader? Only with OTA?
For god sake, why everyone are making us soooo much problems about custom OS... This is my phone and I should make with it what I want...
Aesandar said:
so without unlock bootloader I cant use custom recovery? In my MM I have recovery and from this recovery I can start "custom" and from this custom I can recover roms...
And what about update from 2.2 > 2.3, when moto release 2.3 for atrix it should be possible to update it without unlock bootloader? Only with OTA?
For god sake, why everyone are making us soooo much problems about custom OS... This is my phone and I should make with it what I want...
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If you are planning on flashing custom roms you will need the bootloader unlocked. Going from 2.2 to 2.3 you don't need an unlocked bootloader. You should be able to either use the OTA option, the sd card option, or the update program from moto via the pc.
Hi, I recently got an international Galaxy S3 - my first Android phone. It's an unlocked Spain model (not tied to any carrier), and I upgraded it from 4.0.4 to 4.1.1 as soon as I took it out of the box. I've been rooted through Chainfire's ExynosAbuse since it was released. I've never used Kies; the only update I've had was done OTA.
I wasn't planning on messing around with ROMs for quite a while, but I considered installing a 4.1.2 ROM after seeing the Premium Suite announcement. I figured I'd wait however long it took for Samsung to release 4.1.2 to Spanish phones... but reading that the XXELLA upgrade fixes the sudden death issue - something which I've been quite worried about - I kind of want to just install it, assuming there's no adverse effects. And if the eMMC bug causes damage to the chip over time, I would like to install the hotfix as quickly as possible... (I do have the affected chip and FW rev)
I have been reading up quite a bit in the GT-I9300 sections here, and I think I've got an okay picture of how stuff goes, but I do want to make sure before I do anything with my expensive phone! There is an overwhelming amount of information and it's hard to keep track of everything. Anyway, here's what I was wondering...
- What's the best and safest way to flash the 4.1.2 ROM? It seems like I can use Odin, Mobile Odin, Heimdall or a recovery... but I assume I would need to flash the latter through one of the other three? I use Linux, so I would prefer to use Heimdall over Odin (if it's not more risky). Is a recovery required for custom ROMs, or is it just for convenience? Is it safer than the other methods?
I should also mention that if I used Mobile Odin, I would have to use the lite version as paid Play apps aren't available where I live and I don't have a credit/debit card anyhow.
- Would doing this get me the same result as installing it through Kies or OTA if it was officially released for Spain? (eg. the properly updated kernel/bootloader/modem/whatever else...) Including the famous eMMC fix...
- Are there any adverse effects to installing a ROM belonging to a different country? I think I'd probably end up going for the UK version.
- Would I keep my installed apps, settings, etc like I did with the 4.1.1 OTA update?
- I may end up installing a custom kernel later on (possibly Perseus or something of the like); is there anything I should take into account for this, like what method I use to flash it? And would I lose my data through doing this?
I hope I haven't asked anything too dumb, lol. Thanks very much!
Treeki said:
- What's the best and safest way to flash the 4.1.2 ROM?
>> follow the instructions for the firmware
? I use Linux, so I would prefer to use Heimdall over Odin
Use hEIMDALL
. Is a recovery required for custom ROMs,
Yes
Is it safer than the other methods?
No
- Are there any adverse effects to installing a ROM belonging to a different country? I think I'd probably end up going for the UK version.
Possible need to flash modem or CSC for your region / network
- I may end up installing a custom kernel later on (possibly Perseus or something of the like); is there anything I should take into account for this, like what method I use to flash it?
Follow the kernels instructions .
BASICS .
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1927113
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Hello there, how are you?
My problem is, I received an Y300 as a gift, haven't yet received it but I want to prepare the necessary things to root it and install custom roms on it. No, this isn't the first phone I install a custom rom to, as I have already played with an Optimus L5 of a friend. Could you please answer this questions?
a) How do I root the phone and install CWM or other recovery? I have found many tutorials but they are confusing, and require waiting for 2-3 days for the code to unlock the bootloader. In case you need to know, it probably is the normal Y300, the international one, so no Asian Model
b) How many ROMS are there for this phone? I like Cyanogenmod and stock roms the most, I can barely stand the stock rom in the phone, so I would like to install a new ROM on it ASAP.
c) By flashing the new ROM, do I lose IMEI or something like that (EFS Folder in Samsung phones)? If so, how can I back it up?
Thanks for your help
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Hello there, how are you?
My problem is, I received an Y300 as a gift, haven't yet received it but I want to prepare the necessary things to root it and install custom roms on it. No, this isn't the first phone I install a custom rom to, as I have already played with an Optimus L5 of a friend. Could you please answer this questions?
a) How do I root the phone and install CWM or other recovery? I have found many tutorials but they are confusing, and require waiting for 2-3 days for the code to unlock the bootloader. In case you need to know, it probably is the normal Y300, the international one, so no Asian Model
b) How many ROMS are there for this phone? I like Cyanogenmod and stock roms the most, I can barely stand the stock rom in the phone, so I would like to install a new ROM on it ASAP.
c) By flashing the new ROM, do I lose IMEI or something like that (EFS Folder in Samsung phones)? If so, how can I back it up?
Thanks for your help
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Here is a GUIDE to unlock the bootloader and root your phone
Thanks, LS.xD
This was all I needed, I've found a CM11 Rom in the Modaco forums, hope it works well. Just got to wait until I get the phone
Okay, so I downloaded the latest nighly of the ROM, but it appears that CM11 is not very stable and has many problems with SystemUI (statusbar) and other things. Aren't there any ROMS for the Y300 on XDA? Also, will I lose my network connectivity if I do the wipes (data,cache, dalvik cache)?
Again, thanks for all your help, I appreciate it
EDIT: Found CM10.1 here in XDA but it redirected me to Modaco, however it is quite stable, downloading now. So which wipes do I have to do, in order to get everything smooth? Also, as I said will I lose my network connectivity or IMEI if I do these wipes, or I can do this without worrying
Hi guys,
I'll receive my S6 Edge in about 3 weeks. Quick question please:
I'm hesitating to root it however, I'll probably want to install a new official ROM (phone i'll receive is from Vodafone but I want a generic Lollipop one).
Is it possible to install a generic Android 5 ROM via Odin via a PC and not root the phone at all?
thnx
vivelafrance said:
Hi guys,
I'll receive my S6 Edge in about 3 weeks. Quick question please:
I'm hesitating to root it however, I'll probably want to install a new official ROM (phone i'll receive is from Vodafone but I want a generic Lollipop one).
Is it possible to install a generic Android 5 ROM via Odin via a PC and not root the phone at all?
thnx
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Holy **** man... You talk the talk but you defenetly don't walk the walk.
What I'm trying to say is that its way to early to even talk about these things.
First of, we got root but NO custom roms. I don't even know if we have a custom recovery out yet... My guess is no.
And custom Original Samsung ROMs we will have in due time (like Omegaroms and alike)
But custom CM12/AOSP will not happen any where near this half year if ever as Exynos is closed source and most of it has to be hack built. So forget stability too...
Just understand this first before even considering buying the s6 or s6 edge.
I don't think you understood my question here...
I NEVER talked about a custom ROM!! I want to ditch the vodafone ROM and install a generic BAU ROM instead which WILL be available very soon on samfirmware website. And even if it's not available in the next few weeks, it doesn't matter, my question is generic and could fit ANY phones really.
My question is: is it possible to install a BAU ROM without rooting the phone?
Simple, not sure how to explain it further
Ah I get you now. Sorry.
What you are talking about is "unbranding". Yeah that should be easy.
You don't need to be rooted to be able to flash a stock unbranded ROM.
YES! You actually found the word I was looking for and should have used: unbranding! haha SORRY
Yeah, I too thought that I didn't need ROOT to change ROMs if I do it via ODIN and a PC, but I wasn't sure
thnx again!
vivelafrance said:
YES! You actually found the word I was looking for and should have used: unbranding! haha SORRY
Yeah, I too thought that I didn't need ROOT to change ROMs if I do it via ODIN and a PC, but I wasn't sure
thnx again!
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Actually it is very dangerous (from what I Have been told) to flash any stock firmware via ODIN on any phone except the model it was intended for - that could and probably would brick your phone - IF it was able to flash at all - which is highly unlikely.
I don't know everything - and many here know a lot more than I do - but from what I have read and been told by others smarter than ME _ NEVER try to flash a rom via odin on your phone unless it was specifically made for your model.
Good luck - I hope you find what you what you are looking for.
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Actually it is very dangerous (from what I Have been told) to flash any stock firmware via ODIN on any phone except the model it was intended for - that could and probably would brick your phone - IF it was able to flash at all - which is highly unlikely.
I don't know everything - and many here know a lot more than I do - but from what I have read and been told by others smarter than ME _ NEVER try to flash a rom via odin on your phone unless it was specifically made for your model.
Good luck - I hope you find what you what you are looking for.
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I would obviously take the unbranded ROM that is specifically made for my phone version and model...
Hello, I am super new to xda and to phone rooting. I've recently got a Xiamoni Redmi Note 4 and I really want to root it to unlock the FULL potential of my phone. I'll keep the rest of this thread short by asking:
1. Does MIUI Version matter? I am currently on Global 8.5 l Stable 8.5.4.0 (MCFMIED) Android Version 7.0 NRD90M I am also on a snapdragon
2. Once I unlock my bootloader, is the bootloader unlocked for good?
3. Where can I find a systemless root guide for my phone? (FOR SNAPDRAGON)
4. What are custom roms exactly? What would you suggest?
1) IDK if MIUI version seriously matters but I'd highly recommend to update it to the latest stable.
2) Bootloader is locked for the security of phones, for common users. For further read, see this.
3) Search for "Magisk". You'll VERY easily find the guide and everything you need.
4) Custom ROM is technically an OS. Very usually they're just different flavors of Android. When you flash a custom rom in your phone you're basically changing the phone's OS. You usually get the benefit of getting a smoother, clutter-free phone with a custom rom, well obviously there're risks which you know (or can google).
MayankMathur said:
1) IDK if MIUI version seriously matters but I'd highly recommend to update it to the latest stable.
2) Bootloader is locked for the security of phones, for common users. For further read, see this.
3) Search for "Magisk". You'll VERY easily find the guide and everything you need.
4) Custom ROM is technically an OS. Very usually they're just different flavors of Android. When you flash a custom rom in your phone you're basically changing the phone's OS. You usually get the benefit of getting a smoother, clutter-free phone with a custom rom, well obviously there're risks which you know (or can google).
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Nope. I can't tell anything beside these facts. Nice reply. Only that I'd suggest avoiding miui roms and once rooted, flashing of a pure, aosp based Rom.