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For those of you who got a Note after having a Skyrocket or the SGS2, what are your general impressions?
I just got my Note yesterday, so the jury's still out for me. But so far, I love the size and clarity of the display. The S Pen is a pretty cool toy. However, the black crush issue is making me consider going back to the skyrocket.
What are the pros and cons for you?
Kinda off topic, but does your skyrocket not have the black crush issue? I exchanged my note for another one because of pen accuracy issues, and my new one shows the black crush really badly. The ATT rep said all of the Samsung phones have the black issue, including the skyrocket. My captivate never had the issue. Now that I experience the black issue, I don't know if I want to keep the note.
Edit: Just saw your post in the black crush thread and see that you mentioned that it isn't present on the skyrocket. That might be my new phone if I can't find a fix for this.
I have had 8 skyrockets...and my wife still has one...
The skyrocket has the black crush as well but it is less noticeable because of the smaller screen and lower resolution.
I would go back to the skyrocket if there were not so many units with screen lines and blobs
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Kinda off topic, but does your skyrocket not have the black crush issue? I exchanged my note for another one because of pen accuracy issues, and my new one shows the black crush really badly. The ATT rep said all of the Samsung phones have the black issue, including the skyrocket. My captivate never had the issue. Now that I experience the black issue, I don't know if I want to keep the note.
Edit: Just saw your post in the black crush thread and see that you mentioned that it isn't present on the skyrocket. That might be my new phone if I can't find a fix for this.
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Sigh...I guess my solution is to keep the Note and hope that Samsung addresses this issue. My temporary fix is to adjust settings in a screen adjuster app so the black issue is less noticeable.
I simply started using higher res stuff and its 90% fixed
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Sigh...I guess my solution is to keep the Note and hope that Samsung addresses this issue. My temporary fix is to adjust settings in a screen adjuster app so the black issue is less noticeable.
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Yea its weird the other day i tried that Youtube video "Moving Star field 720p" or whatever and it was horrible pixelation & such. I went to show my GF today and it was 100 times better lol, figures. But i do still see it on some things though. But i figured most devices do have this.
But most of these "new screens" are without a downfall but have many positives over negatives. For example my PS Vita has a beautiful OLED screen. But being its early OLED technology on loading screens you can see what looks like black blobs of paint if you are in a dark room. It is only seen when the pixels are off and only the backlight is on. During some loading screens you will see this. Never will you see any of it during game play. But i guess the Note is more noticeable being it happens in video playback and such.
I had the verizon galaxy nexus....then the tmobile galaxy s2 which has basically the same processer in my new note.....I have to say the more I play with the note the more I like it....my s2 was screaming fast...though we had more developers in that community ....this note is fast but hasn't reached it full potential by any means..we only have a few devs here,plus its so new...give it time this device will be incredible mark my words..
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I simply started using higher res stuff and its 90% fixed
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If I just wanted to play YouTube videos, I could use my browser and that would fix the problem. But I can't even use a wallpaper with dark blacks or it will show that crush all day. It also does it with pictures I take using the camera.
If my Skyrocket has any black crush, it is infinitely better than the Note.
How many of you have helped me report this rather serious graphics issue to Samsung, or the tech blogs like Engadget and Android Police?
Please point all of them to my thread on the subject -- we really need to draw attention to the problem, or they'll never fix it.
Well I owned the Note for 7 days and now I traded it in and got the S2. Here are my thoughts so far.
NOTE - Big BEAUTIFUL screen is great for browsing and gaming. Battery life wasn't great (I thought it would be soon much better). LTE was nice when I had it. One handed operation was something that wasn't enjoyable. Touchwiz lagged a little but not intolerable. Spen was really good.
S2 - Faster stock, not benchmarks but pure going into menus and such. More games are compatible with the S2 then the Note (not even close). Battery life is about 20-30% better with the same use. I was getting 2 hours of screen on Note vs 3 so far on the S2. Perfect size for 1 handed operation. Screen just isn't as clear or bright.
In the end, I am missing the Note. I just refuse to pay top dollar for something that is going to take months to have applications modified for it. Man that screen on the Note is GOREGEOUS!!
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Well I owned the Note for 7 days and now I traded it in and got the S2. Here are my thoughts so far.
NOTE - Big BEAUTIFUL screen is great for browsing and gaming. Battery life wasn't great (I thought it would be soon much better). LTE was nice when I had it. One handed operation was something that wasn't enjoyable. Touchwiz lagged a little but not intolerable. Spen was really good.
S2 - Faster stock, not benchmarks but pure going into menus and such. More games are compatible with the S2 then the Note (not even close). Battery life is about 20-30% better with the same use. I was getting 2 hours of screen on Note vs 3 so far on the S2. Perfect size for 1 handed operation. Screen just isn't as clear or bright.
In the end, I am missing the Note. I just refuse to pay top dollar for something that is going to take months to have applications modified for it. Man that screen on the Note is GOREGEOUS!!
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Top dollar? I paid the same for both $150. I actually do notice that the sgs2 does seem faster at times but omg is it tiny. I use my sgs2 for runnin and the Gnote for everything else.
What res wallpapers?
All i am saying is i have seen the issue on both...but i also lined up 5 skyrockets and there was an insane difference from screen to screen
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If I just wanted to play YouTube videos, I could use my browser and that would fix the problem. But I can't even use a wallpaper with dark blacks or it will show that crush all day. It also does it with pictures I take using the camera.
If my Skyrocket has any black crush, it is infinitely better than the Note.
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Top dollar? I paid the same for both $150. I actually do notice that the what does seem faster at times but omg is it tiny. I use my what for runnin and the Gnote for everything else.
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Your lucky. For me it was $300 for the Note or $100 for the S2. Note for $150 i would have kept it!
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I came over to the Note from the GT-i9100. I'm glad that I did. The extra real estate on the screen is a huge bonus for me.
The SPen seemed gimmicky at first, but that is because the first Note that I purchased apparently had a defect. It often didn't register touches on the screen and I was disappointed. That and the light bleed on the buttons (it was the white version) made me take it to AT&T for a swap to the black one. The fact that this ones pen works perfectly has cemented my decision to keep the phone.
I don't have any lag on mine. It is just like my SGS2 was with a crisper screen.
The only thing that I really miss is the physical home button, but I imagine I will get used to it.
Hi guys,
I haven't really seen much feedback from others regarding this problem and I am quite surprised to be honest. I've ordered my s6 edge 2 weeks ago and have been using it for a week without noticing anything.
I've read through some article a few days ago before going to sleep and noticed a terrible pink hue in the bottom half of the screen. I didn't see the problem when I was using the phone in daylight and with the brightness quite high.
So I've ordered a replacement straight away, which came in yesterday.
The screen which I got on the replacement is completely pink, its even worse than the one I already had. Now I was wondering if I just got so unlucky, but I've had 2 friends at work compare their screens to mine (one of them have the regular s6, the other has an edge) and they the exact same issue as mee, although the pink hue is near the top in the s6.
This is a dealbreaker for a phone this expensive in my opinion... If you don't see it thats fine, but once you notice it it gets really annoying.
I've uploaded a short video with the first s6 edge I got, the replacement and my note 4 to show you the issue:
https://youtu.be/ob_5RjF4lPU
The note 4's screen is basically the same resolution and technology and its flawless. I don't know if this is some kind of manufacturing or quality control problem but I think samsung should sort it out.
The version I've got is the s6 edge gold platinum with 32 gb of memory. I would like you guys to take a lok at your screen and let me know if you got the same thing.
The best way to do so is to set it to a decent brightness level, screen mode to go for is "basic" and look at it in the dark, on a plain white background or with some text like I did.
Thanks for helping out!
Unfortunately I'll be returning both of these phones for now and I'll either wait for some later production or have a look at the note 5 or s6 edge plus...
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Hi guys,
I haven't really seen much feedback from others regarding this problem and I am quite surprised to be honest. I've ordered my s6 edge 2 weeks ago and have been using it for a week without noticing anything.
I've read through some article a few days ago before going to sleep and noticed a terrible pink hue in the bottom half of the screen. I didn't see the problem when I was using the phone in daylight and with the brightness quite high.
So I've ordered a replacement straight away, which came in yesterday.
The screen which I got on the replacement is completely pink, its even worse than the one I already had. Now I was wondering if I just got so unlucky, but I've had 2 friends at work compare their screens to mine (one of them have the regular s6, the other has an edge) and they the exact same issue as mee, although the pink hue is near the top in the s6.
This is a dealbreaker for a phone this expensive in my opinion... If you don't see it thats fine, but once you notice it it gets really annoying.
I've uploaded a short video with the first s6 edge I got, the replacement and my note 4 to show you the issue:
https://youtu.be/ob_5RjF4lPU
The note 4's screen is basically the same resolution and technology and its flawless. I don't know if this is some kind of manufacturing or quality control problem but I think samsung should sort it out.
The version I've got is the s6 edge gold platinum with 32 gb of memory. I would like you guys to take a lok at your screen and let me know if you got the same thing.
The best way to do so is to set it to a decent brightness level, screen mode to go for is "basic" and look at it in the dark, on a plain white background or with some text like I did.
Thanks for helping out!
Unfortunately I'll be returning both of these phones for now and I'll either wait for some later production or have a look at the note 5 or s6 edge plus...
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Back when the phone was first released (April), there was plenty of discussion on this. It is a quality control issue.
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Back when the phone was first released (April), there was plenty of discussion on this. It is a quality control issue.
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Yeah I understand that, but its almost august now and they still haven't sorted it out. Its a shame.
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Yeah I understand that, but its almost august now and they still haven't sorted it out. Its a shame.
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Totally ?
How is it?? Discuss here! I don't even have the phone but I want to hear what you lucky people are thinking and feeling about it upon receiving it!! ?
It's nice. It's kinda like the Note 7 what with it being tall and slim and all. I still wish it didn't have this edge display and I still wish it had the fingerprint reader on the front (heck put it front and back so it suits everyone). I would not have purchased it if it didn't have iris unlock and voice unlock. It's fast of course. So far so good. It's a nice phone.
I upgraded from the s8+ (I know, I'm an idiot). My first impression is just how similar the two phones are. It really is an s8 with an s-pen, which is enough for me.
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I upgraded from the s8+ (I know, I'm an idiot). My first impression is just how similar the two phones are. It really is an s8 with an s-pen, which is enough for me.
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(plus a better camera and more RAM)
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It's nice. It's kinda like the Note 7 what with it being tall and slim and all. I still wish it didn't have this edge display and I still wish it had the fingerprint reader on the front (heck put it front and back so it suits everyone). I would not have purchased it if it didn't have iris unlock and voice unlock. It's fast of course. So far so good. It's a nice phone.
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It's funny you said it's "of course" fast - that's easily my #1 concern, haha.
Well, I am coming from an S7Edge which was horribly slow.....
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It's nice. It's kinda like the Note 7 what with it being tall and slim and all. I still wish it didn't have this edge display and I still wish it had the fingerprint reader on the front (heck put it front and back so it suits everyone). I would not have purchased it if it didn't have iris unlock and voice unlock. It's fast of course. So far so good. It's a nice phone.
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At least you can disable the edge feature on the Note 8! I hated it on the note 7 and was pleased to see we can get rid of it now. It was the first thing I noticed in settings.
I just received my Note 8's (4 of them) today Tuesday September 5th. I'm pleased with the feel and overall quality of the phone. After lightly using the phone off and on since I received it today I'm finding that everything runs very smooth. I don't really like the fingerprint sensor placement but it works really well especially compared to my Note 4 that I've been using for 3 years. I also have noticed that the sound can be adjusted to have a very nice quality to it. I am noticing that the battery life seems to be very good but I am just getting familiar with the phone so I have much more to discover.
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At least you can disable the edge feature on the Note 8! I hated it on the note 7 and was pleased to see we can get rid of it now. It was the first thing I noticed in settings.
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Strange you could do it on the s7?
I couldn't on the Note 7. Not sure about the S7.
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I couldn't on the Note 7. Not sure about the S7.
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You could disable it on the Note 7. One of the first things I did with my first and second devices before the final recall. I don't remember where the setting was a year later, but it definitely was there.
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I upgraded from the s8+ (I know, I'm an idiot). My first impression is just how similar the two phones are. It really is an s8 with an s-pen, which is enough for me.
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I'm tempted to do the same, would you say you're happy with the change, or do you think it was a waste of money?
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(plus a better camera and more RAM)
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Yes and no, the main camera is the same, it just has a second telephoto camera.
I'm curious if anyone has tried the N8 with the Gear VR. I constantly have overheating problems with both the S7 Edge and the Note 5 when watching movies while flying. With the faster processor I am hoping that the N8 runs a little cooler.
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I couldn't on the Note 7. Not sure about the S7.
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Can disable edge feature on the Note FE.
For those that think the camera in the note8 is the same as the S8, it might be the same Hardware, but the software is very much upgraded. If you search YouTube for video comparison between the note8 and the S8 you will
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I'm curious if anyone has tried the N8 with the Gear VR. I constantly have overheating problems with both the S7 Edge and the Note 5 when watching movies while flying. With the faster processor I am hoping that the N8 runs a little cooler.
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The S7Edge got boiling hot for me with the Gear VR, but the Note 7 only got warm. Hopefully, the Note 8 would perform even better than the 7.
Ok Google from any screen is a huge improvement for me. Finally Sammy listened
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Ok Google from any screen is a huge improvement for me. Finally Sammy listened
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Glad to hear it's in there.
Can't do it with screen off though, correct? That's a Google phone exclusive I assume?
I like the feel of the Note 8 a lot more than the S8+. The fingerprint sensor is better placed (for me at least, i have long fingers and the spacing helps) and the phone being less rounded makes it easier to hold. Surprised how much bigger the screen looks than the plus and the camera software is a little bit better than on the s8+. Solid comeback for the Note line. I think the Note 9 is where they are going to try and really differentiate the S series and Note again. They could have made the Note 8 screen even bigger if they wanted, but played it safe this time to get us back. Best phone out in my opinion.
My Note came today. I've had about 6 hours to use it. It feels a good bit faster than the Pixel XL and I like the longer screen. It's not as wide as I thought and it fits nicely in one hand. I have large hands so some may find it a bit large to hold with one hand. I've only played with the Camera for a few minutes but I'll do some comparisons to the Pixel XL camera.
It's been floating around for a bit. Compared to the note 8 it looks absolutely horrible. Really bad. Was thinking about getting this phone till I saw this!!
https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2017/09/lg-v30-hands-on-lgs-oled-displays-still-have-quality-issues/
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It's been floating around for a bit. Compared to the note 8 it looks absolutely horrible. Really bad. Was thinking about getting this phone till I saw this!!
https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2017/09/lg-v30-hands-on-lgs-oled-displays-still-have-quality-issues/
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Hopefully just pre-production issues.
LG actually makes the best OLED panels for TVs that even Sony uses for their TVs. So, there's no reason there should be any quality issues, except LG Display is a "separate" company from the LG company that makes cell phones. However, Google gave them almost $1 billion to get another line up and running to help out with the 2017 Pixel XL. Google used Samsung displays last year, but will be using LG displays this year and LG will be making the 2017 Pixel XL. So, if you are worried, wait a few months until the Pixels especially are in production before buying an LG V30. Because Google will make them straighten out any problems.
FYI, in the reader comments, someone mentioned another reviewer PRAISED the LG V30 display as being excellent. So, the Ars Technica guy may have just gotten a lemon or again, just pre-production issues.
It's one pre production unit. Can't really pass judgement on this yet.
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It's one pre production unit. Can't really pass judgement on this yet.
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Correct, a sample of one. I don't stare at black screens so uneven lighting doesn't bother me in actual use. Most people have praised the screen. So, as long as it looks good when it actually displaying images, I will be happy.
I know other don't feel the same.
It's disturbing.
There are at least two reviews that note banding and screen uniformity issues. There will be more. This issue is cause by the P-OLED manufacturing process LG employs. Screen colors are vibrant and gorgeous ... that is, until you start reducing the LED color input (or dimming the screen). Then the problems start showing up. Few will notice due to the high QHD+ screen resolution and keeping a normal screen brightness.
Side by side comparison to a Note 8 has proven this issue given that the V30 has a higher pixel density.
I hope I'm wrong, but I doubt the production units will be any different.
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It's disturbing.
There are at least two reviews that note banding and screen uniformity issues. There will be more. This issue is cause by the P-OLED manufacturing process LG employs. Screen colors are vibrant and gorgeous ... that is, until you start reducing the LED color input (or dimming the screen). Then the problems start showing up. Few will notice due to the high QHD+ screen resolution and keeping a normal screen brightness.
Side by side comparison to a Note 8 has proven this issue given that the V30 has a higher pixel density.
I hope I'm wrong, but I doubt the production units will be any different.
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No,it's not disturbing. Most reviewers say it's fantastic. You will find a couple of reviewers will always give critical reviews no matter what.
http://www.scmp.com/lifestyle/artic...erb-photos-and-gorgeous-display-top-hard-beat
This switch in display tech, along with further refinement of the already slim bezels of the G6, makes the V30’s screen hands down the best LG smartphone screen ever. All colours look lush and gorgeous, especially the blacks and red, and the display and glass back both curve towards the metal frame for that symmetrical “glass sandwich” look that Samsung pioneered.
The V30 ticks just about every smartphone box, including a whole bunch that most people never asked for. It has a large, gorgeous OLED display with slim bezels, cameras that excel in low light situations and the newest mobile processor. It is IP68 water-resistant, comes with hi-fi audio capabilities and can be charged wirelessly.
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http://www.t3.com/reviews/lg-v30-review
Okay, the next thing you'll notice is that brilliant 6-inch screen. LG has switched to using OLED panels, and the result is fantastic
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It's not even 50/50. I can find you 10 positive reviews for every negative one.
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Few will notice due to the high QHD+ screen resolution and keeping a normal screen brightness.
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Yes, my light bulbs tend to turn dark when I turn them off.
These reviewers are using pre-production models, so actual retail won't be any worse and will probably be better. And even with that caveat, it's about 10/1 rave reviews.
Ok...Find me a pre-review that compares the V30's screen quality directly to another phone's screen quality. You'll find a lot of Note 8 and G6 reviews reference the V30's change to OLED but no direct OLED quality comparison.
Secondly, have you owned any P-OLED screen phones before? I have. Still have em. Their screens get better with each iteration but that banding (and graininess) is still there. OG G Flex - saturated screen bad, grainy 720p. G Flex 2 - Crispy saturated OLED colors noticeable banding, less grain on 1080p. V30 looks great brightness all the way up but....it's 1440p right?
I know the hope is real, but this is a hardware issue. Much harder to figure out than a camera software fix.
Think about this: When the V10 and V20 pre-review units went out, LG never revised their hardware - only the software was updated.
....Like I said I hope I'm wrong.
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Ok...Find me a pre-review that compares the V30's screen quality directly to another phone's screen quality. You'll find a lot of Note 8 and G6 reviews reference the V30's change to OLED but no direct OLED quality comparison.
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I found plenty comparing LG to Samsung OLED quality. Here's three below.
Then "worst" review is first... The only quibble mentioned on the first review (in one pre production unit) was "low light" issues, not banding nor uniformity. And the first reviewer even mentions LG"s crappy P-OLED efforts years ago and says that's not evident on this LG V30. He praises the current phone display as does the 2nd reviewer and third -- and ALL compare to Samsung's OLEDs, like the S7, S8, S8+.
1) LG V30 initial review: The no-BS flagship
I'm happy to report that the company has made a huge amount of progress over the past two years, to the point where V30's screen is almost as good as Samsung's SuperAMOLED. That sounds like faint praise, but I'm actually more than satisfied with what LG has brought to the table here. It's not Galaxy S8 good, but it's surprisingly close, and that's an achievement in itself.
Samsung is still the king of smartphone displays, there's no doubt about that. But LG's latest screen, at Quad HD+ resolution, looks fantastic and punchy, and unlike some of those older P-OLED panels, is clear enough to use outdoors in bright daylight.
If anything, this display's major weakness is in low light. It has an unfortunate tendency to crush shadow details at lower brightness levels, to the point where dark areas become illegible — and that's not great if you're watching Netflix by candlelight, or trying to judge exposure in a low-light photo. This is a disappointing holdover from older OLED efforts, and it's easily fixed in software by simply raising the floor for brightness, but that's not exactly ideal.
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The display, despite some low-light issues, is a step beyond any previous LG phone in terms of quality and daylight legibility. The size is near perfect for me, providing an expansive display in a more ergonomic handset than Samsung can currently offer.
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The V30's going to have its work cut out going up against the Note 8s and Pixels and iPhones of the world when it launches. But for the moment, it's easily among the best Android phones I've used, and has every chance of being a sleeper hit for late 2017.
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2) LG's Upcoming V30 May Be Its Best Smartphone Yet
“Is that the new Samsung phone?” I’ve been asked that several times the past few weeks, as I’ve been testing out LG’s upcoming V30 smartphone. And I get it, as the phone is thin, black-fronted, sleek, large, and has rounded edges with a big screen that covers a massive area. No doubt that at quick glance, the resemblance to what I've seen of the Samsung Galaxy Note8 in photos is close.
And because I regularly use a two-year-old Samsung phone, I’ve noticed that the similarities extend beyond sheer looks. For instance, the V30 has a vibrant screen. It’s the best one I’ve seen on an LG phone yet. Colors are intense while blacks are pitch dark. Photos truly pop -- something that I find beautiful in all of the latest Samsung models but lacking in recent LG phones. In this case, LG attributes that radiance to “QHD+ resolution” plus a 6-inch OLED display. Apparently, self-lighting pixels help generate infinite contrast. Sparing you the tech jargon, it’s just a terrific display that can be adjusted to be very bright -- although it doesn’t quite max out as bright as the display on my Samsung.
This makes looking at photos and videos a pleasure.
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3) LG V30 hands-on: Believe the hype
LG is back in the game
LG has talked a lot about the improvement in image quality as it switches from LCD to OLED in the V30. For me, the six-inch, Quad HD+ display (2880 x 1440) is one of the handset’s best elements. The colors look bright and vivid, almost popping off the screen – watching HDR YouTube content on it is breathtaking.
I’ve found the contrast between black and white makes reading text so good that I’m now using the V30 instead of my iPad Air 2 to peruse web articles. The phone's screen trounces my Galaxy S7 Edge, and while I only compared the two briefly, I also preferred it to the S8+.
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And after using it for about a week, I still got that “wow” feeling every time the gorgeous display came to life.
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So, there's three specific comparisons to Samsung, talking specifically about the display and how GREAT it is. You want more, I'll give them to you.
Now two more facts...
1) Google PIXEL XL2 will have the same LG OLED display as found in the LG V30.
2) LG Display’s OLEDs Coming on Premium Phone from Huawei, OPPO, Vivo and Xiaomi
https://www.gizmochina.com/2017/09/...coming-premium-phone-huawei-oppo-vivo-xiaomi/
Well, production unit issues are backing up my previous statements.
https://www.androidheadlines.com/20...screen-exhibiting-color-imbalance-issues.html
"According to a recent report from South Korea, LG customers who have had the opportunity to purchase the LG V30 after its September 21 debut in the country have started raising complaints in regards to the quality of the display. Apparently, the issue lies in the P-OLED panel’s inability to distribute colors and brightness evenly across the entire surface, resulting in an undesirable effect similar to the so-called “light bleeding” usually exhibited by backlit LCD panels."
Things to Keep In Mind:
1. The screen is still beautiful and vivid despite this issue
2. LG is aware, and price will come in lower (will continue to go down slightly as all units will have this issue)
3. Screen will not take away all the features packed into the phone
4. Consumers will have to decide between light uniformity issues vs. the better battery life and weight advantages the P-OLED screen brings.
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Well, production unit issues are backing up my previous statements.
https://www.androidheadlines.com/20...screen-exhibiting-color-imbalance-issues.html
"According to a recent report from South Korea, LG customers who have had the opportunity to purchase the LG V30 after its September 21 debut in the country have started raising complaints in regards to the quality of the display. Apparently, the issue lies in the P-OLED panel’s inability to distribute colors and brightness evenly across the entire surface, resulting in an undesirable effect similar to the so-called “light bleeding” usually exhibited by backlit LCD panels."
Things to Keep In Mind:
1. The screen is still beautiful and vivid despite this issue
2. LG is aware, and price will come in lower (will continue to go down slightly as all units will have this issue)
3. Screen will not take away all the features packed into the phone
4. Consumers will have to decide between light uniformity issues vs. the better battery life and weight advantages the P-OLED screen brings.
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I'm taking it with a grain of salt. Google is also using LG OLED for the Pixel 2 XL, so they're satisfied with the quality.
As are all the reviewers I quoted, directly comparing to Samsung AMOLED.
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I'm taking it with a grain of salt. Google is also using LG OLED for the Pixel 2 XL, so they're satisfied with the quality.
As are all the reviewers I quoted, directly comparing to Samsung AMOLED.
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You make a good point here. If Google is using lg's P-OLED panels. Then they seem to be good enough. I'm taking all this news with a grain of salt. I'll wait till the V30 actually launches in the US and US reviewers start reviewing production models.
Funny thing is that reputable tech reviewers like MKBHD, Pocket now, Mr. Mobile, etc have had nothing but praise and thye all had pre production models. I usually don't trust all these others tech sites as they are biased most of the time or too critical/take it out of proportion.
We'll see how the pixel is received and I can tell you that most of these site won't says anything about the pixel's display.
Just because Google is using them, doesn't make them great. The Nexus 6 had horrible screens.
Actually, the screen on the Nexus 6 was the main appeal. It was gorgeous at the time and it might still be my daily driver if it only had SD.
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Just because Google is using them, doesn't make them great. The Nexus 6 had horrible screens.
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No, not really. The screen on Nexus 6 is beautiful. I have a Nexus 6. It is a tab but warm compared to other screens bit it doesn't take away from the experience at all.
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No, not really. The screen on Nexus 6 is beautiful. I have a Nexus 6. It is a tab but warm compared to other screens bit it doesn't take away from the experience at all.
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I had 3 Nexus 6's and all had screen banding on gray backgrounds, just like the Galaxy s2 and S3.
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I had 3 Nexus 6's and all had screen banding on gray backgrounds, just like the Galaxy s2 and S3.
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Dude, looks like you had bad units all three time. My phone doesn't have that problem. And I know a lot of people who don't have the banding problem.
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Dude, looks like you had bad units all three time. My phone doesn't have that problem. And I know a lot of people who don't have the banding problem.
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I had one, wife had one, son had one. I swapped mine twice. No way 5 in a row were just a "bad run".
There's threads on here about the Nexus 6 screen issues.
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I had one, wife had one, son had one. I swapped mine twice. No way 5 in a row were just a "bad run".
There's threads on here about the Nexus 6 screen issues.
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I know there are threads about screen issues. I'm saying that I never had these issues. And I know atleast 10 others that don't have the issue. My dad, some devs and couple friends.
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I had 3 Nexus 6's and all had screen banding on gray backgrounds, just like the Galaxy s2 and S3.
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Dude, looks like you had bad units all three time. My phone doesn't have that problem. And I know a lot of people who don't have the banding problem.
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I had one, wife had one, son had one. I swapped mine twice. No way 5 in a row were just a "bad run".
There's threads on here about the Nexus 6 screen issues.
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Please don't take this the wrong way, but let me tell you a story. I work professionally in broadcast TV, on the technical side. I know about video, and now specifically about HD video. My experience includes not only content creation but QC at the highest levels for global #1 brand.
We have the BEST equipment, the best video displays -- so I know what's good and what's crap. I watch HD video for a living you might say. Back in early 2008, I personally bought my first HD TV, a 60" Sony Bravia 1080p. It was FANTASTIC. In the years since, I've replaced it with another 60" TV, but this story is about that Sony. I did my research, and I bought that TV because it was the best TV for the money at the time. (I couldn't afford Panasonic plasma back then.)
In a forum much like this one, there were a few OCD people who found issues with that specific model Sony Bravia 1080p TVs. Light leakage, banding, blah, blah, blah. One guy took back his TV THREE TIMES to get replacements. Yet, that year, THAT TV model won Best HD TV of the Year award. I kept my TV for 6 years, finally replacing it in 2014 when the technology got so much better. There was NOTHING wrong with that TV.
So, where's the disconnect? I think some people look for flaws that aren't there and find them. Looking through the threads, these same people seem to take back ALL their TVs. I don't know why, and I don't want to disparage them. Maybe it made them feel superior to see flaws that weren't there.
But remember, I know more about video displays than they do, and how good HD video should look (FROM THE SOURCE!). Seeing that TV in my living room looking at the exact same video I had seen at the source back at work, I knew what looked "good" and what didn't. That TV looked fantastic. So, I think there were other issues going on than the actual TV. (Yes, you have to set up all HD TVs -- tweak the settings. You can't just use them out of the box, or you often have cartoonish skin tones. But these people also claimed extensive knowledge in how to set up a TV, so it wasn't that.)
Yes, there will be lemons in a production run of a million units, but those occasional lemons don't tarnish the whole model. That guy that took three back, I'm very skeptical he got three bad TVs in a row and I got the only "perfect" one. You know?
It's my profession, so video is very important to me. But right now, I have to say I take professional reviewers word over "reports" from South Korea. And if Google and many others are using LG OLED displays, and Google is using it for their XL flagship this year, they must have great quality.
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I know there are threads about screen issues. I'm saying that I never had these issues. And I know atleast 10 others that don't have the issue. My dad, some devs and couple friends.
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See above. That's not to say there may not be early production issues, but U.S. units will be shipped later so it should be all straightened out. I'm just VERY skeptical of when a few people find "problems" like this. Then when you look at their history, they are the only ones who seem to be plagued with these problems over and over.
You got me all wrong. You can do whatever profession or job you want, doesn't make you an expert because you work with certain equipment. Car salesman work with cars all day long, doesn't make them experts on engines.
I know what I look for because I know what I pay for, I know my first s8+ had red tint on the top right side of the screen. This one don't, I've looked and looked on this one, can't find it. You can't find something that isn't there. But if something's there and you look for it, you'll find it.
Either or, to each their own.
So I currently own a Tab S4, Note 10+ and Note 8 and I've been impressed with the AMOLED screen. Today I got a Tab S6 and I'm severly disapointed by the screen quality. Compaired to the other AMOLED displays, this looks like an old LED panel, pretty bad quality no deep blacks, low contrast and the same image looks totally different over the two Tab screens. Additionally, when something comes up that blurs the background, the effect is more like a severly reduced pallet count rather than the normal blurring effect.
Is this normal for the Tab S6 or is this a bad unit?
I've also had trouble with the under screen finger print scanner not registering fingerprints, so I'm thinking faulty...
I haven't had any problem with the screen nor the fingerprint. Might be a bad unit.
No problems with mine...Everything looks great. Just a thought...When I first got mine up and running it looked a little dim as you describe. I went into the settings and put it on vivid and it lit up and was a totally different look. But if that don't help then probably a faulty screen.
Come from the tab s3 have an s10 plus as my daily phone looks just as good as the s10 plus in my opinion.
Nope it isn't
I did try that, but even with vivid on it still looked washed out
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I did try that, but even with vivid on it still looked washed out
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Yeah sounds like a bad screen....I would take it back.
The quality control is awful, I've had three which I've returned due to uneven black levels.
Samsung are obviously aware of the issues with the displays but they don't care because many users just don't complain about it, or don't know what to look for.
Apparently there are a lot of people having uniformity issues with their devices and there doesn't seem to be one free of defects. As always it's the OLED lottery! Exchange until you're satisfied.
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The quality control is awful, I've had three which I've returned due to uneven black levels.
Samsung are obviously aware of the issues with the displays but they don't care because many users just don't complain about it, or don't know what to look for.
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We are all techies in this forum the average user would probably not even notice if the backlight was uneven especially if they have come from an old non OLED device I think that's probably part of the issue
Jeffro64 said:
No problems with mine...Everything looks great. Just a thought...When I first got mine up and running it looked a little dim as you describe. I went into the settings and put it on vivid and it lit up and was a totally different look. But if that don't help then probably a faulty screen.
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Totally different look that gnus hooked people up on, and milliards of nobbs saying that amoled is way superior tehnnologi. Now it decided to turn around and present natural colour palette (with uneven wrinkled display to boot), i agree that it can be not so good to look at it after vivid
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The quality control is awful, I've had three which I've returned due to uneven black levels.
Samsung are obviously aware of the issues with the displays but they don't care because many users just don't complain about it, or don't know what to look for.
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Im in the same position as you and I already bought 3 Tablets that had unsatisfying black levels. I feel bad for buying and returning them and I am asking myself if I should keep trying or just give up.
The OLED display on my note 8 looks so smooth and even. I wish I would find a similar tablet display.
Did you finally find a unit of the Tab S6 that has perfect blacks ?
Rapidfire93 said:
Im in the same position as you and I already bought 3 Tablets that had unsatisfying black levels. I feel bad for buying and returning them and I am asking myself if I should keep trying or just give up.
The OLED display on my note 8 looks so smooth and even. I wish I would find a similar tablet display.
Did you finally find a unit of the Tab S6 that has perfect blacks ?
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Unsatisfying black levels? How is this possible? Black should be totally black LOL xD
Do you mean the grey color or something near black? Or you guys really talk about true black color? ( for example when booting up the device )
True blacks are fine, but it doesn't handle mixing very well - Compression and noise is easily noticeable at that point.
For example : The blacks in this video look terrible and Compression is easily noticeable when mixing the Vegas sign and the landscape of the city.
But in this video, they're perfect - The only noticeable problem in this video for me is when the camera is panning the planet and mixing black, purple and blue - at which point some minor noise is present but the rest is fine.
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True blacks are fine, but it doesn't handle mixing very well - Compression and noise is easily noticeable at that point.
For example : The blacks in this video look terrible and Compression is easily noticeable when mixing the Vegas sign and the landscape of the city.
But in this video, they're perfect - The only noticeable problem in this video for me is when the camera is panning the planet and mixing black, purple and blue - at which point some minor noise is present but the rest is fine.
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What about Galaxy tab s4? Is it the same as S6?
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What about Galaxy tab s4? Is it the same as S6?
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No idea - I came straight from the SM-T800.
tab s4 has a better screen
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Im in the same position as you and I already bought 3 Tablets that had unsatisfying black levels. I feel bad for buying and returning them and I am asking myself if I should keep trying or just give up.
The OLED display on my note 8 looks so smooth and even. I wish I would find a similar tablet display.
Did you finally find a unit of the Tab S6 that has perfect blacks ?
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No, I'm not concinved there are any perfect displays. I still have one corner that's darker, honestly this experience has put me off Samsung. As soon as there's an Android tablet with better specs I'm done with this, I might be done with Samsung to be honest, the punch holes in their new phones are horrible and they're overpriced..
What's the best way to check the uniformaty of the panel in the S6? I don't believe I've got any issues but better safe than sorry!
Tab S4 much better will return the s6 I just bought as you can see grey in blackboard in so.e videos which you don't on the tab S4. Hopefully replacement will be better.