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Am I the only person that's noticed the cover up (or at best complete overlooking) of the 920 MANY issues?
Let me say, I own(d) a 920 and I loved it so much I looked past all its flaws, and I dealt with a lot. Previous owner factory reset it right in front of me and we know what that means. I spent the next 12 ****ing hours unbricking the thing just so I could use it! Now, after owning the 920 a freakin week, it stops reading my SIM card suddenly so now I'm back with android.
I just notice that no tech site has EVER run any articles about the litany of major issues with this phone. Hell even in the forums nobody seems to have put it together! Am I the only one who sees it??
Bricking on factory reset
Battery life issues
Black screen on calls
Hardware buttons randomly not working, requires soft reset
Phone suddenly stops reading SIM cards
I'm sure I'm missing some but those are the one I dealt with. Am I alone?
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I've been using the 920 for 2.5 months now and I have none of your issues. I had the restart bug but it got fixed with portico update. also there is some dust under the FFC but i don't care because it is not on the lense and it don't use it anyway.
i know about black screen and factory reset bug but i read for the 1st time that there should be major problems with the SIM card or the hardware buttons.
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Am I the only person that's noticed the cover up (or at best complete overlooking) of the 920 MANY issues?
Let me say, I own(d) a 920 and I loved it so much I looked past all its flaws, and I dealt with a lot. Previous owner factory reset it right in front of me and we know what that means. I spent the next 12 ****ing hours unbricking the thing just so I could use it! Now, after owning the 920 a freakin week, it stops reading my SIM card suddenly so now I'm back with android.
I just notice that no tech site has EVER run any articles about the litany of major issues with this phone. Hell even in the forums nobody seems to have put it together! Am I the only one who sees it??
Bricking on factory reset
Battery life issues
Black screen on calls
Hardware buttons randomly not working, requires soft reset
Phone suddenly stops reading SIM cards
I'm sure I'm missing some but those are the one I dealt with. Am I alone?
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Previous owner. Maybe that is your problem.
Son Loves it!!
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Previous owner. Maybe that is your problem.
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My son has had the 920 since it came out...Other than *****ing about the lack of the most popular apps (instagram, temple run, Jetpack Joyride...etc) the phone has been nothing but flawless. He will never give it up because he is an xbox junkie lol
i've had it for almost 2 months now..
only issue i've had is the crashing (normally every couple of days), since updating seems ok so far...I've flashed a few 'roms' to it, EE branded and normal
I thought the screen going blank in calls was supposed to happen? Like to save power? last couple of phones i've had turn the screen off when you put it to your head?
I'll be honest, i'm a little disapointed in windows phone 8, after coming from 7 with no crashes for a year (apart from once when i started messing with the registry) I found windows phone 8 quite shocking, coming from android/windows mobile i'd say its not to bad, but in someways it seems a downgrade. But so far no crashes with the latest update, and i'm hoping it stays that way, but honestly, I have a feeling your issues are isolated.
Also had the chance to use the new nexus 4 the other day, if theres a cover up going on, i'd say its those who say android is smooth and responsive....
I've been using my 920 for a month and haven't encountered any of your problems. The only thing I don't like about my 920 is that there is no app so far to automatically switch phone profile according to time and location.
I'm shocked 2 of you have had no problems. Search Google for any of the problems I listed and you'll find loads of people with the same issues.
Id get another one but I can't afford to keep buying phones when one ****s up. And yea the screens supposed to go black when you put it to your head but it was going black and staying like that so I could end calls, use the num pad, use speaker phone, or any of that. I found a work around but the proximity sensor is supposed to work
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I'm shocked 2 of you have had no problems. Search Google for any of the problems I listed and you'll find loads of people with the same issues.
Id get another one but I can't afford to keep buying phones when one ****s up. And yea the screens supposed to go black when you put it to your head but it was going black and staying like that so I could end calls, use the num pad, use speaker phone, or any of that. I found a work around but the proximity sensor is supposed to work
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Search google for ANY electronic device followed by the keyword 'issue / problem' and you are sure to get pages of results. People that don't have problems (most people) typically don't post about it while people with issues regularly post because they want the issue resolved. This gives an artificial bias to the negative and only reinforces the already tainted view of people in a mindset that something is rubbish.
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Search google for ANY electronic device followed by the keyword 'issue / problem' and you are sure to get pages of results. People that don't have problems (most people) typically don't post about it while people with issues regularly post because they want the issue resolved. This gives an artificial bias to the negative and only reinforces the already tainted view of people in a mindset that something is rubbish.
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I agree, since the last update I haven't had very many problems at all. And since I haven't been having issues I haven't been coming to the forums as much. I just come in every once in a while now to see if there's anything new. I'm not constantly hounding for an answer to my problems on a daily basis since I don't have problems. It's my guess that other people who have perfectly working phones would have like minds as me... or just not visit the forums at all.
No bricking during factory reset (had to do it once and I'm not going to do it again just to prove a point).
Battery life is awesome.
Hardware buttons are working fine.
Blank screen during calls isn't an issue for me since the proximity sensor works almost all the time, I think.... at least, it hasn't been a big enough concern for me that I actually notice it.... guess I should keep track of it.
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Pre-portico
No stability issues, but craptastic daylight camera and bluetooth connectivity issues
Portico:
Unstable. Reboots at least twice a day.
Good daylight camera
Good bluetooth connectivity.
Think people have to make a choice about the portico.
unstable and functional or stable and unfunctional.
Lemark said:
I've been using my 920 for a month and haven't encountered any of your problems. The only thing I don't like about my 920 is that there is no app so far to automatically switch phone profile according to time and location.
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This is also the main thing I'm missing, coming from Nokia N8 the situations was really a great app...
I think Nokia lumia phones in general have a lot of issues, as does Windows Phone. It's just there are so few users even if there was a problem, it would seem isolated. Microsoft's share in the smartphone market didn't even budge at all in 2012. WP users are not power users so they just run back to the store to get an exchange. Even the lumia 920 forum at wpcentral.com is slow as molasses. 90% of the posts are very shallow anyway. Most don't even know what screen size their phone is or what processor its running. the camera is just AMAZING and the phone is PERFECT, over and over again. Of course, this forum isn't any better. The only difference being the plethora of unlock threads, because xda is international.
Your description of WP users is fairly accurate & the market segment MS is going after. The enthusiast market is small & even on Android accounts for a very small % of sales. The easiest way to solve an issue is by exchanging the phone, if you have that option available to you. A lot of issues people are having are either caused by defective hardware or a bad flash IMO, which is an issue on any of the platforms.
Do people not expect bugs and hiccups at launch for these kinds of devices?
It happens. And it's not as bad as you perceive; it's not a conspiracy.
AW: The great Lumia 920 conspiracy.......
If ms allows developers create store accounts for free I bet there would be more apps on store.,.
I get what you guys are saying, but phone busting issues like that black screen on calls and bricking on hard resets shouldn't be common enough to have a thread full of people experiencing them.
If anyone knows of any way to get the phone to read SIM cards again, I'd like your help. I still miss using my lumia 920 :'(
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I have experianced just about every issue in this thread. I have users of the 920 I support for other stuff and I see how they basically ignore them as they did on their Blackberry or iPhone. I had the brick issue... news flash as I posted in another thread, it is not bricked!!! use the Nokia Care Suite, gets you going no problem. During my day I may deal with just about every phone they see at an AT&T store (Tmobile, Sprint,or Verizon for that matter)... they all have issues. Have you ever seen an iPhone user change their password on their laptop and not update the iPhone? Lets say you need to get to something before updating that password, like they changed the server setting trying to update it... go ahead try it. Drop calls, Steve Jobs had to properly instruct dumb iPhone users how to hold an iPhone. Andriod, perfect????? WTF are serious?? And becuase of that piece of software, it does not matter what hardware you are talking about.
My phone is limited compared to Andriod, I can agree with that.... but I can do more with fewer Apps and I like that. The 920 has had some hiccups along the way, but the hardware I have right now is as solid as any other phone out there, actually physically a tougher phone then any other top tier phone.
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This is exactly what I was trying to get at. These sorts of issues and threads are everywhere for many high profile smartphone launches, especially lately with this insane obsession with HW spec wars.
I've seen much worse, many times, you will not buy a high end smartphone at launch these days without having some sort of worry that there will be a game-breaking bug or defect.
WP 8 for 3 months:
NO ISSUES
POWER USER (i had portico when the first roms were available on navi)
my question is, are all these faulty devices on ATT or another crap american service , cause i think this may be your problem, ive had to work on vodaphone orange tmobile and ee 920's and 820's and i can say with pride that the only issue people have is the lack of popular apps., there is no conspiracy. why the eff are you people needing to hard reset anyway wtf are you doing to your phones?
I have to admit I've been having freezing issues regularly, often when it's just sat on my desk or in my pocket, and almost every night while on USB charge. I've also noticed on the odd occasion a reboot, but only because of my SIM being PIN locked.
Mine was a German Vodafone one, which I flashed on day 1 to the CV_GB ROM, then again to CV_GB Portico ROM. Maybe I'll try a different one, as I've heard the EE one has fewer issues.
I ended up talking to a phone tester that works for LG here in San Diego. She's from South Korea, she deals directly with corporate in Seoul and translates for them. I told her my V10 is a glitchy freakhouse and that it was all her fault.
She said they know that a certain percentage of the phones are defective with overheating, GPS failure and other issues. She didnt tell me what percentage though so not sure how wide reaching this is. I realize that missing fact makes this a little less valuable info but I thought it was interesting enough to share.
No product is perfect. I've dodge most of the issues I see here in the forum, only heating issue I had was trying the set up a email with Exchange server.
Like you said a number would be interesting. Did she indicate it was a hardware or software issue?
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Like you said a number would be interesting. Did she indicate it was a hardware or software issue?
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Don't even fall for that crap.
I am with my third V10, all of them with dead píxels and screen issues...LG quality control is a joke.
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No product is perfect. I've dodge most of the issues I see here in the forum, only heating issue I had was trying the set up a email with Exchange server.
Like you said a number would be interesting. Did she indicate it was a hardware or software issue?
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She didnt and wouldnt know and I'll tell you why. She explained their process. The testers just sit in an office and play with the phones, they dont use them in their daily lives. Then they send all issues to LG R&D who are supposed to diagnose and fix the issues.
Maybe they have other people doing more in-depth desting, I dont know but she is a contract employee of LG.
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I'm not sure what your intention is here but if we dont bring things like this to light then we're not doing anything to help all the people who are getting bad GPS, dead pixels, etc. that is screwing up their daily lives and causing a ton of hassle. I'm not an activist but I'm also not going to completely ignore it when this phone got me all excited, cost me $700 and then turned out to screw up my week and waste a bunch of my time.
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I am with my third V10, all of them with dead píxels and screen issues...LG quality control is a joke.
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Yup, I agree. I'm going to return the one I have today or tomorrow. I want this phone to work so bad. I might try a new one, one more time.
Yea, not sure if its true but I have read in many forums how phones don't work properly out of the box and most were fixed by doing a reset on the phone. The first V10 I had was great except for WiFi. I get over 100 Mbps at home and every device gets the same speed. However, the V10 was reaching 10 Mbps...after the reset it worked great and speed was up. I did end up exchanging for a new one (just to make sure I had a good phone, why I got to do a reset to fix a new phone) and the new V10 is great, out of the box. I get GPS lock quick, great WiFi and no lag.
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She didnt and wouldnt know and I'll tell you why. She explained their process. The testers just sit in an office and play with the phones, they dont use them in their daily lives. Then they send all issues to LG R&D who are supposed to diagnose and fix the issues.
Maybe they have other people doing more in-depth desting, I dont know but she is a contract employee of LG.
I'm not sure what your intention is here but if we dont bring things like this to light then we're not doing anything to help all the people who are getting bad GPS, dead pixels, etc. that is screwing up their daily lives and causing a ton of hassle. I'm not an activist but I'm also not going to completely ignore it when this phone got me all excited, cost me $700 and then turned out to screw up my week and waste a bunch of my time.
Yup, I agree. I'm going to return the one I have today or tomorrow. I want this phone to work so bad. I might try a new one, one more time.
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Since english is not my primary language I will do an extraordinary effort to do this...I've passed for 4 V10's already. I was waiting by 9.00am October the 30th to get this wonderful device LG announced that hit every single check mark that I always wanted in a smartphone. My first impressions should've sufficed cause the first one they brought was scratched out of the box, yes, the metal bands were scratched, so obviously I asked for another and that one was ok at least on he outside.
After less than a month I started to notice some weird behavior when displaying some content with the brightness maxed to 100%...dead pixels everywhere( I made a post). I exchanged that unit to and to make the story short I am with my 4th V10(counting the scratched one) and this one has "only" one dead pixel(or an array cause I don't think we can spot one pixel on this devices with our bare eyes) with no other issues so am keeping it fighting my OCD every time I think about it. I don't want to call T-Mo again and put another exchange request cause I know it will come with dead pixels and/or other more problematic issues.
LG quality control is a joke, at this price point dead pixels policy should be 0.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v10/help/how-lg-t3264290/page2
http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v10/help/dead-pixels-everywhere-t3263826
i have a lot of dead pixels and experiencing image retention issues. can someone help me? i dont know what to do.
Same here.
I have around 8 dead pixels on my phone, and my phone has guaranty but after contacting with guaranty they said only can repair and replace my phone lcd with another one.
SHAME ON YOU LG ???
I only see people complaining about phones bought from USA operators/stores, none bought on Amazon or other countries, I wonder
I bought my v10 on launch from vzw. No issues since day 1. Everything is spot on including the fingerprint sensor.
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I bought my v10 on launch from vzw. No issues since day 1. Everything is spot on including the fingerprint sensor.
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I suspect most of the "complaints" are propaganda from the competition
For complaints. Try a different brand if your not happy with LG. Make both you and LG happy, and move on.
I have had my V10 since December (from T-Mobile). Initially no problems to report, but the image retention issue has become progressively worse (as I type this, the image of this site is being temporarily "burned in"), and the GPS has only recently been failing to connect for navigation. my father also got a V10 the same day, but does not report these issues. User activity may be leading to a faster declining lifespan of phone, but both phones have had a drastic increase in overheating since receiving the Marshmallow update, which may be playing a role in the even greater descent into decomposition.
I've been a big fan of LG phones for years, but the V10 may not be able to keep up with the demand (I'm 19, so like most millennials, I use my phone constantly-possibly why I have this issue)
So my LG V10 has been perfect from day one. Now lets assume that every post on this thread is factual.
Then all we can do is say sorry it was you that got the bad phone, if you add all the posts here it's still less the half a percent bad phones, that's a pretty good number.
Lately when below 60% battery I have been experiencing screen failures or that the screen freezes: Details here: http://goo.gl/1i50x4 and example of failure during rebooting after a screen failure: http://goo.gl/UQ1pwT
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Lately when below 60% battery I have been experiencing screen failures or that the screen freezes: Details here: http://goo.gl/1i50x4 and example of failure during rebooting after a screen failure: http://goo.gl/UQ1pwT
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This happened to my first Nexus 9 and I had it replaced. Nexus 9's that have been successful repaired for this issue have had a new motherboard installed by HTC. Mine happened after only 4 months of use, but my new N9 has been about 9-10 months without issue. In my opinion this is a hardware defect that should be recalled outside of warranty by HTC. If the same thing has happened to many N9's, which it has, necessitating a replacement of the motherboard, this is not warranty work. This is a manufacturing error on behalf of HTC. Is it our fault if the ticking time bomb goes off after 12 months? Any I swear HTC's tech service is told to play dumb. If you call and ask them about the issue, they've never heard of it. Yeah, like **** you never heard of it. I love my N9, but I will never give HTC my money again.
+GibsonSGJ Thanks. Bought direct from Google, and yes its out-of-warranty. Nevertheless, will have a go at Google on Monday
So many bad things about Nexus 9, N9 just don't lived up to expectations. This is why I didn't buy the Pixel C when it was released.
Anyway, I do have a temporary solution for fixing the issue.
Disclaimer and Advice: Take your own responsibility. Think twice before you follow my method.
Steps:
1. Prepare a Mattress.
2. Play with your Nexus 9 and wait until the notorious issue to happen again.
3. When that annoying things show itself, grab your N9 and smash the Back of N9 toward the Mattress over and over again.
4. Keep Repeating the cycle until N9 reboot system itself. And stop smashing when you see your beautiful wallpaper.
5. N9 should be working normally for a few days. For my own experience, it works normally for at least 3 days and 7 days top.
Remember, it's just a Temporary solution. The notorious issue would happen again later. And by that time, do it again. Ah, If the rumor is true, I will keep using my Nexus 5 rather than buy an HTC Nexus phone.
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No, it is not out-of-warranty, it is two years warranty. Talked to Google - they will give me a free refurbished replacement device
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No, it is not out-of-warranty, it is two years warranty. Talked to Google - they will give me a free refurbished replacement device
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The Nexus 9 always had a one year warranty. I'm unable to find anything online regarding the warranty being extended to two years. Is this something Google is doing for Nexus 9's that were purchased from the play store? I got mine from Best Buy and I'm pretty sure if I call HTC they are going to tell me it has a one year warranty.
Cannot find the warranty document, but who am I to complain about getting two years warranty. You may be right that they are doing this for direct Google customers. The replacement N9 feels like new (maybe it is)?
The replacement refurbished N9 works very well, but it does get hot (>40C).
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The replacement refurbished N9 works very well, but it does get hot (>40C).
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They all get hot around the processor with most games and chrome. However, I can watch downloaded MKV's or MP4's on MX or I can run SNES 9X EX+ all day with my bluetooth SNES30 gamepad, and the thing barely breaks a sweat!
Please delete this thread and please ban me and people who are calling me a troll, this is for you, (check the date):
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=77495198&postcount=17
Hi there, there might be some issues with Pocophone in general and your device in particular but all this hate is absolutely uncalled for. If you are not happy with it - return it or sell it. It is just a $300 phone, what did you expect?
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Hi there, there might be some issues with Pocophone in general and your device in particular but all this hate is absolutely uncalled for. If you are not happy with it - return it or sell it. It is just a $300 phone, what did you expect?
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This device is made for gaming, but you can't play games and when you complain against it, "it's just a $300 phone, what do you expect?" dude, why it has a SD845 if touch issue is a norm? why didn't they put SD430 in it? a lot of people have this issue.
As the last user replies, there's no reason to hate it for being a little worse than 500$ devices. For the money you're spending its definitely the best device you could buy right now.
1. Sound issues - Software fix will work.
2. DRM issues - Another software fix.
3. Multi touch issue - Check the thread someone posted a solution, though most of us never faced it.
4. Lag/Frame drop issues - Never faced in the games I've played but 845 is more than capable of not having frame drops, so its just software optimization again.
5. Battery and Heating - I never saw 50 C on my poco and my other devices remain there even after moderate use so its better. (Ambient temperature is high in my area) and the battery lasts forever. My standby usage on 4g mobile data was 0.3% yesterday (3.5 hr in 1% drop) and SOT is consistently using just 10-15% per hour which roughly translates to 7-8 hour of SOT and at least 6 hours for a heavy user, tell me one 845 device capable of this?
And Jai Mani from poco does see our tweets and repiles too, they're working on DRM fix currently, notifications on notch area are also being looked into and they resolved the bootloader unlock issue so fast, I'm hoping they'll fix the other minor things too.
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As the last user replies, there's no reason to hate it for being a little worse than 500$ devices. For the money you're spending its definitely the best device you could buy right now.
1. Sound issues - Software fix will work.
2. DRM issues - Another software fix.'
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I don't know what world you live in, but for solving DRM issues, OTA won't work in this one
Multitouch issue is a major issue and the device is useless unless this issue is solved. A lot of users are facing this issue and I am not alone apart from PUBG keyboard is very slow and lags, touch has a delay, inaccuracy in selecting texts. With these kinds of problem SD845 is useless because input devices are limiting the hardware capability.
If you have ever taken Computer Science 101, a input device should be as responsive and accurate as possible else using a fast processor on a slow input device is as stupid as it gets.
regarding the reply, I have made multiple queries on the forum and filed 2 bug reports, and even quoted few admins and mods, they aren't even replying.
And if they still think that it's normal then they should take this device and refund me my money, which they are not doing. I had to convince them for about the issue for at least 2 hours and best they did was replacing the device but I don't want this **** and will never buy phones from Xiaomi ever again unless the devices are thoroughly tested and bugs are fixed.
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I don't know what world you live in, but for solving DRM issues, OTA won't work in this one
Multitouch issue is a major issue and the device is useless unless this issue is solved. A lot of users are facing this issue and I am not alone apart from PUBG keyboard is very slow and lags, touch has a delay, inaccuracy in selecting texts. With these kinds of problem SD845 is useless because input devices are limiting the hardware capability.
If you have ever taken Computer Science 101, a input device should be as responsive and accurate as possible else using a fast processor on a slow input device is as stupid as it gets.
regarding the reply, I have made multiple queries on the forum and filed 2 bug reports, and even quoted few admins and mods, they aren't even replying.
And if they still think that it's normal then they should take this device and refund me my money, which they are not doing. I had to convince them for about the issue for at least 2 hours and best they did was replacing the device but I don't want this **** and will never buy phones from Xiaomi ever again unless the devices are thoroughly tested and bugs are fixed.
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Please verify your information about DRM, oneplus 5 and 5T had the same issue of netflix hd and they resolved it via update(Yeah the update had to be done at service center only). I've taken every computer science involved in engineering (a CS engineer myself) and I understand your concern but somebody did post a fix for that. I've faced the touch issue in my other phone while charging which was due to a buggy kernel so its definitely debatable that it could be a software issue.
I had a speaker distortion issue, my replacement was arranged instantly over phone (Flipkart).
source: https://www.xda-developers.com/oneplus-5t-netflix-amazon-prime-video-hd/
1. Sound issues - We will solve it soon
I've no idea what's that. Can you explain?
2. DRM issues - Just don't watch netflix or prime in HD because we have loads of money to have HD plan but can't watch it.
The phone doesn't support V1 out of the box, most of the Xiaomi phones doesn't support. Heck even the One Plus 5/5t also doesn't support. You get what you pay. To make it clear, I don't believe it can be fixed by a software since it requires secured machine to update the phone which only OEM's use. Only way Xiaomi can fix it by asking customers to visit Service center and updating the V1 from their machine. Otherwise, just forget about it.
3. Multi touch issue - what do you expect from a $300 phone?
No such issues here.
4. Lag/Frame drop issues - What do you expect from a budget phone
No frame drops, lag issues. Source? I play PUBG 4-5hrs per day and never faced that issue. PS: It's not a budget phone.
5. Battery and Heating - Every phone has it, what is the problem?
So what if the phone gets heated, it'll heat when you do intensive tasks, I guess you've never used a flagship phone in your life? All top high end CPU's like SD835/845 etc generate heat. Xiaomi did great job in keeping it cool, my phone never crossed 50+ during games.
May be you should stick to Samsung J7 phones. That's what you're meant to use.
Use what you like and stop cribbing about it. You don't like Poco F1, use iPhone X or any other high end Android phone. You pay $300 and you want a phone to behave like $1000? No phone is perfect including the iPhone X/Samsung Note 9.
I've been using Poco F1 from last 1 week and so far I'm in love with this phone.
Wow... so much hate, and most of us had no issues with phone what so ever. What gives you the right to be hater and try to generalize some problems that 95% people never experience?
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Is poco F1 nothing but a brick?
It has top specs like SD845 and UFS 2.1 and all but we have a few issue and what other people are suggesting?
1. Sound issues - We will solve it soon
2. DRM issues - Just don't watch netflix or prime in HD because we have loads of money to have HD plan but can't watch it.
3. Multi touch issue - what do you expect from a $300 phone?
4. Lag/Frame drop issues - What do you expect from a budget phone
5. Battery and Heating - Every phone has it, what is the problem?
etc
Tell me, did we just buy this phone for the sake of having a SD845 and liquid cooling system and not use it properly?
Is this device only capable of calculating 2+2 and no heavy work?
This device's name should be named Poco Compromise 1 instead...
BELIEVE ME I HAVE USED A LOT OF XIAOMI PHONES, I KNOW HOW THEY WORK:
I have used Redmi 2/Prime,3S/Prime,Note 3/4/5, Mi4i - Do you know Mi4i? This **** was launched as a Flagship in India but they ****ed us up.During the first month, they provided support although few people won't call it a support because for the heating issue they released a fix, that arsehead Barra called it their pathbreaking thermal config, when the developers looked at the config they found out that those idiots permanently turned off 2 cores of the SD615. Later when the hype died, they slept as they do everytime and after just 1 year the SOT of that phone dropped to 1 hour even when the device was used minimally. Because of their pathbreaking config, SD615 earned a bad name for being a non-battery friendly processor, although Moto G Turbo had the same processor and was one of the best device during that time.
I URGE YOU ALL (THOSE WHO HAVE TOUCH ISSUES) TO COMPLAIN WHEREVER YOU CAN SO THAT XIAOMI WILL AT LAST EITHER FIX THIS ISSUE OR TELL US IF IT IS A HARDWARE ISSUE BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE AND THE HYPE DIES. JUST WRITE IT ANYWHERE YOU WANT, AFTER A MONTH OR WHENEVER POCO ANNOUNCES A NEW DEVICE ALL THE HYPE WILL SUDDENLY DIE AND NO ONE WILL CARE ABOUT THE ISSUES, SO DO SOMETHING WHILE THE TIME IS RIGHT!!!!
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Dude. Just come on already. You keep making it sound worse each time you post the same thing.
Sound issue : A software bug nothing new. It'll get fixed if not improved in the later updates
DRM - Frankly if you had "loads" of money, then why didn't you put your trust in samsung or Apple. Leave Xiaomi to budgeteers.
Multi touch - Every one knows they made the biggest compromise in the display/touch panel. But most touch issues are due to gestures. Can be optimised.
Lag/Frame drops - unless you are playing emulator games from PS2, this is impossible. I play PUBG for 2-3 hrs every day.
Battery/heating - When you turn the best feature of a device into its worst, then it makes people think you ahve some kinda agenda here. Avg SOT is 9 hrs and max temp during intense gaming 40+ which comes down in 2 secs.
Only capable of 2+2, really? I had a legitimate argument going on with touch/display compromises but now.
I ordered mine earlier today. God help me lol
narora9999 said:
Please verify your information about DRM, oneplus 5 and 5T had the same issue of netflix hd and they resolved it via update(Yeah the update had to be done at service center only). I've taken every computer science involved in engineering (a CS engineer myself) and I understand your concern but somebody did post a fix for that. I've faced the touch issue in my other phone while charging which was due to a buggy kernel so its definitely debatable that it could be a software issue.
I had a speaker distortion issue, my replacement was arranged instantly over phone (Flipkart).
source: https://www.xda-developers.com/oneplus-5t-netflix-amazon-prime-video-hd/
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The only phone I have ever heard that the DRM was changed is OP5 others had to stick with whatever version they got. Apart from that the certificate change requires physical connection with an authenticated computer i.e. the company's computer that means about 7-10 days for those who live outside cities like Mumbai and Delhi and since very few (or none of) Xiaomi phones in India has L1 Widevine support all the legal hassles and paperwork will be so tedious that they will either charge you for that or won't do it.
Multitouch issue is different from what you are referring, check the following bug report and video:
Bug report:http://en.miui.com/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=3746297
Video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5K2N6McC_s
P.S. I also have a CS degree and multiple certifications on Programming and Ethical Hacking from Lynda,Pluralsight,Udemy,etc.
Daruwalla said:
1. Sound issues - We will solve it soon
I've no idea what's that. Can you explain?...
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Dude, I am not saying those things, that is actually what people are replying when someone says that they are having a problem with the phone
BELIEVE ME I HAVE USED A LOT OF XIAOMI PHONES, I KNOW HOW THEY WORK: So assuming you knew they treat you the wrong way all the time, why spend money on them again, and DRM issue for Xiaomi is well known, if you are familiar with their phones, why would you be shocked to know it now?
Maybe you are just angry!! Channelize it on the Xiaomi and Flipkart social feeds and your problem has higher chance of being solved.
Seems like OP got a bad unit.Sound issue and multitouch issue will be fixed in next update.Except Widevine L1 support, all thing said by you is wrong. No issue here, bought in first sale.
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BELIEVE ME I HAVE USED A LOT OF XIAOMI PHONES, I KNOW HOW THEY WORK: So assuming you knew they treat you the wrong way all the time, why spend money on them again, and DRM issue for Xiaomi is well known, if you are familiar with their phones, why would you be shocked to know it now?
Maybe you are just angry!! Channelize it on the Xiaomi and Flipkart social feeds and your problem has higher chance of being solved.
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I have posted it there and even a bug report please see before posting. The problem is I am getting no reply and Flipkart is delaying the return request.
shailendra1993 said:
The only phone I have ever heard that the DRM was changed is OP5 others had to stick with whatever version they got. Apart from that the certificate change requires physical connection with an authenticated computer i.e. the company's computer that means about 7-10 days for those who live outside cities like Mumbai and Delhi and since very few (or none of) Xiaomi phones in India has L1 Widevine support all the legal hassles and paperwork will be so tedious that they will either charge you for that or won't do it.
Multitouch issue is different from what you are referring, check the following bug report and video:
Bug report:http://en.miui.com/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=3746297
Video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5K2N6McC_s
P.S. I also have a CS degree and multiple certifications on Programming and Ethical Hacking from Lynda,Pluralsight,Udemy,etc.
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Yea I only said its possible and as no Mi devices supported it, even some huawei and zte didn't support it but only poco f1 model is being bashed for it because you all try to find cons in a product that offers at least more than its cost.
Multitouch is due to gestures implementation and it is a software issue. Sound is always fixable even if they don't(root and fix yourself). You may have gotten a bad unit but we didn't face any issues that are worth so much hate.
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The Pixel, with its Tensor chip and machine learning, can somewhat adapt to the phone user's habits, right? That's why battery life improves, maybe the phone gets hot at first, then doesn't as I've seen people imply here (and was my experience), and so on.
Then you have all the complaints here. The phone sucks, it gets hot, the battery is terrible, etc. And when people do complain about bugs what is usually the first advice they get? Reset it. But in some cases isn't that exactly the wrong thing to do with this phone? With a device that adapts to your usage isn't a wipe the last thing you'd want to do? Or am I giving the whole "machine learning" thing too much credit? I ask because I visit a Telegram thread and a user there was complaining. Someone asked if he had reset the phone and he replied "yes, a few times".
I don't know about overheating and other problems, but w/r/t battery life? I agree. These phones absolutely get better battery life over time, and frequent resets are probably disruptive of that process.
In fact i am quite happy with this phone. If it was not the epic fail with the december update breaking phone connectivity and the way it was handled otherwise i don't have any problems. Camera is top notch especially when shooting in RAW and battery life for me is between 1 and 2 days (depends how much i use it). I think that with few more updates bugs will be fixed and we will have very good phone with regular updates just like the old pixels. The only thing i hope to change are these stupid 5G, volte and vowifi limitations imposed by google for most countries.
You will always get people complaining about any new phone/device.
Some people are more dramatic than others.
Any new device is not a 100% perfect. There will always be bugs on a new device.
Bottom line is if you hate it that much. Sent it back and get a refund.
Or buy a POS crapple and be a sheep.
Wait a second guys. Let's call a spade a spade. The device was not ready to be released until the December update was fixed. Past the 15 day period there is no returning the phone so put that aside, it's a non issue. You can't be saying that connectivity is fine, it's not. Don't even get me started on the FPR. Be real and acknowledge what is broken. Call screening is gone, on hold is gone, there is basically no transfer from wifi to network without a reboot. That is unacceptable and no amount of calling those complaining sheeple is going to change that. I've owned every Google device since they started coming out with hardware and this device is the worst they've ever released. Do I like the phone, yes I do. Would I trade it in, no. But there are serious problems and you must admit it without criticizing those that do. Calling Google out is not being unfaithful it's just being real.
edit: that being said I did bootloader unlock the device and I'm running ProtonAOSP non rooted. FPR is way better but connectivity is still the December radio which is awful. The rom is better that what Google has out now. Just sayin'.
android_dan said:
The Pixel, with its Tensor chip and machine learning, can somewhat adapt to the phone user's habits, right? That's why battery life improves, maybe the phone gets hot at first, then doesn't as I've seen people imply here (and was my experience), and so on.
Then you have all the complaints here. The phone sucks, it gets hot, the battery is terrible, etc. And when people do complain about bugs what is usually the first advice they get? Reset it. But in some cases isn't that exactly the wrong thing to do with this phone? With a device that adapts to your usage isn't a wipe the last thing you'd want to do? Or am I giving the whole "machine learning" thing too much credit? I ask because I visit a Telegram thread and a user there was complaining. Someone asked if he had reset the phone and he replied "yes, a few times".
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It doesn't adapt to anything except to determine what kind of advertising you would be most susceptible to so that gooble can target you most profitably. All this "AI" and "machine learning" crap is just buzz words that really do NOT imply any of the amazing scifi ideas of machines actually thinking. Don't get overly carried away with marketing buzzwords.
Nidstang said:
I don't know about overheating and other problems, but w/r/t battery life? I agree. These phones absolutely get better battery life over time, and frequent resets are probably disruptive of that process.
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Increased battery life is tied to calibrating the battery level gauge.
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You will always get people complaining about any new phone/device.
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You mean aside from apple, which is actually a fashion accessory and nobody actually expects it to work well. I see lots of apple people with nothing that works, and they just shrug it off as "that's just what phones are".
bobby janow said:
Wait a second guys. Let's call a spade a spade. The device was not ready to be released until the December update was fixed. Past the 15 day period there is no returning the phone so put that aside, it's a non issue. You can't be saying that connectivity is fine, it's not. Don't even get me started on the FPR. Be real and acknowledge what is broken. Call screening is gone, on hold is gone, there is basically no transfer from wifi to network without a reboot. That is unacceptable and no amount of calling those complaining sheeple is going to change that. I've owned every Google device since they started coming out with hardware and this device is the worst they've ever released. Do I like the phone, yes I do. Would I trade it in, no. But there are serious problems and you must admit it without criticizing those that do. Calling Google out is not being unfaithful it's just being real.
edit: that being said I did bootloader unlock the device and I'm running ProtonAOSP non rooted. FPR is way better but connectivity is still the December radio which is awful. The rom is better that what Google has out now. Just sayin'.
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Well said, and very true!
I am SO tired of users saying "well MY device works just fine, YOU must be doing something wrong!". That's exactly the response I see everywhere as soon as someone has any complaint about the P6. The "only" issue I had was the almost total loss of reception after the December update ... I'd like for those users to tell me how I did something wrong there? I wanted to root after the update anyway, so I unlocked, rooted and flashed the mid-November radio.img which brought my reception back up to the 3-4 bars I had before the botched Google update (which had taken it down to 0-1 bar).
Google just letting P6 users sit + wait now, those on locked bootloaders with crappy reception, is what pisses me off most of all. I am long past the 2-week return period so I'm stuck with the device. But I've been letting it sit, half the time on Airplane mode, on my desk for weeks now while my actual daily driver is the OP 5T.
I'm just waiting for "proper" custom roms now to finally get some options ... or until the eBay prices for the P6 go back up so I can sell it without losing too much. The next person that tells me that "Google are the best + fastest with updates for their devices!" will get tarred + feathered by me for sure
Nimueh said:
Well said, and very true!
I am SO tired of users saying "well MY device works just fine, YOU must be doing something wrong!". That's exactly the response I see everywhere as soon as someone has any complaint about the P6. The "only" issue I had was the almost total loss of reception after the December update ... I'd like for those users to tell me how I did something wrong there? I wanted to root after the update anyway, so I unlocked, rooted and flashed the mid-November radio.img which brought my reception back up to the 3-4 bars I had before the botched Google update (which had taken it down to 0-1 bar).
Google just letting P6 users sit + wait now, those on locked bootloaders with crappy reception, is what pisses me off most of all. I am long past the 2-week return period so I'm stuck with the device. But I've been letting it sit, half the time on Airplane mode, on my desk for weeks now while my actual daily driver is the OP 5T.
I'm just waiting for "proper" custom roms now to finally get some options ... or until the eBay prices for the P6 go back up so I can sell it without losing too much. The next person that tells me that "Google are the best + fastest with updates for their devices!" will get tarred + feathered by me for sure
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While you're waiting try ProtonAOSP rom then reflash the November radio. That's what I did and it's running rather swimmingly. Still some issues but definitely worth a shot especially if it's just sitting on the desk.
bobby janow said:
Wait a second guys. Let's call a spade a spade. The device was not ready to be released until the December update was fixed. Past the 15 day period there is no returning the phone so put that aside, it's a non issue. You can't be saying that connectivity is fine, it's not.
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I disagree. I don't deny that some people may have connectivity issues, but I can say that I do not. I find connectivity to be excellent. However, my carrier has only up to LTE, no 5G as of yet. This could be why, either flaws in 5G connectivity, or new and patchy 5G networks. Maybe try limiting it to LTE and see how that works out?
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Don't even get me started on the FPR.
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Fingerprints are not good for security, especially when it comes to anti-self-incrimination laws, since it is not knowledge based. Consequently, I'd have to categorize finger print unlock to be more of a gimmick than a real feature.
bobby janow said:
Call screening is gone, on hold is gone,
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Hold works perfectly. Isn't call screening a feature of the google dialer?
bobby janow said:
there is basically no transfer from wifi to network without a reboot.
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You must be mistaken about that. I transfer from wifi to carrier all the time -- MANY times per day, never had to reboot.
96carboard said:
I disagree. I don't deny that some people may have connectivity issues, but I can say that I do not. I find connectivity to be excellent. However, my carrier has only up to LTE, no 5G as of yet. This could be why, either flaws in 5G connectivity, or new and patchy 5G networks. Maybe try limiting it to LTE and see how that works out?
Fingerprints are not good for security, especially when it comes to anti-self-incrimination laws, since it is not knowledge based. Consequently, I'd have to categorize finger print unlock to be more of a gimmick than a real feature.
Hold works perfectly. Isn't call screening a feature of the google dialer?
You must be mistaken about that. I transfer from wifi to carrier all the time -- MANY times per day, never had to reboot.
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But you can't deny that many many many people are having serious problems. The fact that you're not is good for you. That's about it. Call on hold is gone. Perhaps you didn't know what I meant..
96carboard said:
I disagree. I don't deny that some people may have connectivity issues, but I can say that I do not. I find connectivity to be excellent. However, my carrier has only up to LTE, no 5G as of yet. This could be why, either flaws in 5G connectivity, or new and patchy 5G networks. Maybe try limiting it to LTE and see how that works out?
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I disabled 5G on day one since my carrier doesn't have 5G coverage in my area yet, and STILL the connectivity issues are there. Google stopped the OTA, admitted there are problems and then even deleted the files from their update server so YES, there is a huge connectivity problem on the P6(P). Just because YOU don't have those problems doesn't mean they don't exist
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While you're waiting try ProtonAOSP rom then reflash the November radio. That's what I did and it's running rather swimmingly. Still some issues but definitely worth a shot especially if it's just sitting on the desk.
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Nah, those "custom" roms that are out yet don't have any customization (yet?), so I'll pass. I am helping test the Renovate Ice module though, which is slowly adding tweaks/features again. RiCE was the reason I was able to stay stock on my OP7 for 2 years, so fingers crossed it will help with this P6 too.
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I disabled 5G on day one since my carrier doesn't have 5G coverage in my area yet, and STILL the connectivity issues are there. Google stopped the OTA, admitted there are problems and then even deleted the files from their update server so YES, there is a huge connectivity problem on the P6(P). Just because YOU don't have those problems doesn't mean they don't exist
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I suspect that you see a low reading in the signal meter and THINK that it means you have connectivity problems. Yes, it reads really low, but holds signals and works well despite that.
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Call on hold is gone. Perhaps you didn't know what I meant..
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Perhaps you aren't explaining what you mean properly, because hold works perfectly.
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Perhaps you aren't explaining what you mean properly, because hold works perfectly.
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The hold for me while I'm waiting to speak with a representative. It will then alert you when someone picked up. That stopped working for me.. But really small potatoes compared to the other issues.
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I suspect that you see a low reading in the signal meter and THINK that it means you have connectivity problems. Yes, it reads really low, but holds signals and works well despite that.
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No, I didn't "think" it was bad - if calls don't go through or disconnect mid-call then that's not an issue with the display of the signal strength, but one with the SIGNAL itself. None of that happened any more after flashing the mid-November radio.img.
Why do you think Google stopped pushing the OTA and removed the files from their servers? Certainly not because they were bored, but because they KNEW there were issues.
So please stop assuming that 1000s of users are simply too stupid to handle a phone or only think they have an issue. YOU got lucky, great - but please don't treat those of us that have reception or fp or whatever issues like we don't know what we're doing!
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All this "AI" and "machine learning" crap is just buzz words that really do NOT imply any of the amazing scifi ideas of machines actually thinking. Don't get overly carried away with marketing buzzwords.
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That reply sure was a buzz kill. I was sure by this time next year the phone would be cutting my grass and doing the laundry.
vandyman said:
You will always get people complaining about any new phone/device.
Some people are more dramatic than others.
Any new device is not a 100% perfect. There will always be bugs on a new device.
Bottom line is if you hate it that much. Sent it back and get a refund.
Or buy a POS crapple and be a sheep.
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C'mon man, yes there's always people who complain at first or some growing pains.. But this phone has serious issues. I feel like people who are making light of these problems with the p6 are just trying to justify their purchase
opz187 said:
C'mon man, yes there's always people who complain at first or some growing pains.. But this phone has serious issues. I feel like people who are making light of these problems with the p6 are just trying to justify their purchase
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The only people that are having any issues are the people that keep their phone stock. And most of them do not even know that they have a bad device.
Most people that come to the XDA forums are modders of some sort.
I honestly do not have any issues after making changes to the P6 to suit me.
I understand some people are having issues and most are self inflected.