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Hi,
I'm selling my Z5 Compact under MM. The decision was hard because I kinda love the fingerprint but...
The battery is a complete joke, it doesn't last a day compared to my old Z3C which is far more better in everything,
The device gets warm and hot all the time, in any application I go (I have no games and I mostly use Google apps and Telegram)
The back camera glass protector has some problem, see: http://forum.xda-developers.com/z5-compact/help/dirty-camera-glass-protection-t3336230
I'm going to take back my good old Z3 Compact which is far more better.
And you ? Do you also share the same feelings about it ?
Before the MM update - yes, I felt the same. Since MM and the newest update mine has been great.
If it weren't for z3c side charging I would have never chosen the z5c. I'm holding onto mine for a bit longer until this HTC mini, s7 mini, and xiaomi mini release. Front facing speakers are keeping me from downgrading back to a mini Samsung for the time being.
And as far as battery life and heat issues I'm right on the same page. I've adapted to it for now by quick charging at lunch time to get me through the work day and clipping phone to me so I'm not burning myself in my pocket.
I am thinking about doing that too, but there are 2 things that keeping me from that, fingerprint sensor and camera! I don't know what to do, wait for S7 Mini,go for S7, wait for SONY to maybe fix issues of this phone or what else?
I think if only this phone had 3GBs of RAM we had no problem or even SONY used good old Snapdragon 801!
i had drain and heat problem until i shutoff 4G, now (3G.5HPSA) only dosnt need really need fast internet
now my phone is 40-90 hours average use , instand 12-30
i have 5.1.1 but maybe it will work also with 6, u can try
I am quite happy with the phones performance and battery life since MM, but I have now preordered the HTC10 and my neighbour is already waiting to buy the Z5C from me. If the HTC10 is as good as I beleive it is, I can overlook the fakt that I hate big phones in this case. Ive been a very happy HTC owner since the HD2 and lastly the M7. The Z5C is a great phone to me, but it will never be more than that. HTC usually managed to float my boat just that tiny bit better than the other brands
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I am quite happy with the phones performance and battery life since MM, but I have now preordered the HTC10 and my neighbour is already waiting to buy the Z5C from me. If the HTC10 is as good as I beleive it is, I can overlook the fakt that I hate big phones in this case. Ive been a very happy HTC owner since the HD2 and lastly the M7. The Z5C is a great phone to me, but it will never be more than that. HTC usually managed to float my boat just that tiny bit better than the other brands
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I used to be a big HTC fan until they went to the one series. They are supposedly bring an h10 mini out with flagship specs this year. Hopefully they don't disappoint like the last two minis, I want to go HTC again.
eivissa said:
I am quite happy with the phones performance and battery life since MM, but I have now preordered the HTC10 and my neighbour is already waiting to buy the Z5C from me. If the HTC10 is as good as I beleive it is, I can overlook the fakt that I hate big phones in this case. Ive been a very happy HTC owner since the HD2 and lastly the M7. The Z5C is a great phone to me, but it will never be more than that. HTC usually managed to float my boat just that tiny bit better than the other brands
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you know the HTC 10 has not stereo speakers anymore? only dual speakers one (lower) for bass and for top on high pitch
Z5C is kind the same thing BUT! still stereo , Z5C top speaker wave range of 150hz-22050KHz and bottom speaker is 500HZ-22050Khz (less bass)
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you know the HTC 10 has not stereo speakers anymore? only dual speakers one (lower) for bass and for top on high pitch
Z5C is kind the same thing BUT! still stereo , Z5C top speaker wave range of 150hz-22050KHz and bottom speaker is 500HZ-22050Khz (less bass)
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Dude, I dont care about that stuff. If I want to listen to music I get me a proper stereo and speakers or headphones. Any cellphone speaker sounds horrible.
What kind of personality disorders do people have these days to need a stabilized photosensor for selfies? Is a look in the mirror in the morning not good enough anymore? Million megapixels cellphone cameras still make crappy pictures in comparison to any 100€ camera Ive gotten my hands on.
Marketing makes us beleive that we need so many things in our cellphones, but in the end they usualy cant to one thing great.
I bought the Z5C because it was the only product available that offered highclass specs in a small phone. I dont like the design of it, the picture quality, speaker sound quality, sony customizations...you name it. Its a good phone for what it is. A phone. Snappy performance and 2 days on a charge make me a happy user.
The HTC10 is not compact, which I am not happy about, but it has a beautiful design and HTC Sense. Apparently it also has better sound quality if you connect good headphones to it and I like to listen to music with the best possible quality. This is an archievable goal in a phone btw...dslr picture quality isnt!
If someone builds a phone with the size of the Z5C (or even smaller), 1080p resolution, aluminium body/looks like the HTC One series, happily dumps the selfy camera and top-spec hardware, but little to no changes to stock android, then I buy that phone in a heartbeat.
The complete contrast for me is Samsung now. Make it huge, put useless features on it and customize it to the max. Full throttle marketing bull**** in my mind, but people seem to love it.
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Dude, I dont care about that stuff. If I want to listen to music I get me a proper stereo and speakers or headphones. Any cellphone speaker sounds horrible.
What kind of personality disorders do people have these days to need a stabilized photosensor for selfies? Is a look in the mirror in the morning not good enough anymore? Million megapixels cellphone cameras still make crappy pictures in comparison to any 100€ camera Ive gotten my hands on.
Marketing makes us beleive that we need so many things in our cellphones, but in the end they usualy cant to one thing great.
I bought the Z5C because it was the only product available that offered highclass specs in a small phone. I dont like the design of it, the picture quality, speaker sound quality, sony customizations...you name it. Its a good phone for what it is. A phone. Snappy performance and 2 days on a charge make me a happy user.
The HTC10 is not compact, which I am not happy about, but it has a beautiful design and HTC Sense. Apparently it also has better sound quality if you connect good headphones to it and I like to listen to music with the best possible quality. This is an archievable goal in a phone btw...dslr picture quality isnt!
If someone builds a phone with the size of the Z5C (or even smaller), 1080p resolution, aluminium body/looks like the HTC One series, happily dumps the selfy camera and top-spec hardware, but little to no changes to stock android, then I buy that phone in a heartbeat.
The complete contrast for me is Samsung now. Make it huge, put useless features on it and customize it to the max. Full throttle marketing bull**** in my mind, but people seem to love it.
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yup also one of the reason i bought this phone because its small, my previous phone was 3.5" sony with walkman WT19 , so even this one abit big for me, lol..
im mostly disappointed of
1.camera lens (plastic) can scartch easly and can ruin the shots
2.photos are noisy\blurry even with good light ,
3.phone heating fast, (even low end apps or, even 4G signal; if high end apps like asphalt 8 in 2mins its 50c\120F)
4.when phone get hotter it become slower ,
5.speakers are uneven and weak , loudspeaker awful, my previous phone was 4times louder didnt need it use of bluetooth in car, now i need...
6.didnt came with quickcharge QC adapter
7.didnt came with in-ear headphones
8.update the phone to MM make it worse battery and lags,camera*, didnt upgrade it yet*
still pretty fast phone with nice battery but not worth the price (mine cost about 800 US$ when i bought it)
My only problems with the phone are:
some hick-ups during normal operations
overheating
average camera
poor system customization options
Otherwise the phone is perfect. The battery is great, I've recently lasted two days (~10% when going to sleep on the 2nd day) with automatic brightness and 24h sync with mobile data, some sms and a few calls, I even played some Hearthstone on a bus. The battery seems to have problems on certain units.
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Mine was 390 USD... gotta love Europe
Why is the device so freaking inexpensive? I can buy it from China for mere $230. Other Snapdragon 820 devices cost at least $350.
What's the difference between modifications? X820/X822/X823?
As far as I can see photos made by this smartphone are extremely blurry. Does anyone know a workaround for that? Can it shoot in raw?
What's the real battery life? I'm interesting in watching hi def videos without 4G/WiFi/GPS/Bluetooth enabled at half brightness. Also I'm curious for how long I can read in the same mode.
Or should I buy Xiaomi Mi Max instead?
1. LeEco wanted to draw attention by selling high end phones at reasonable prices. Also, they don't intend to make money from selling hardware, they want to do it by selling LeTV's video streaming services.
2. Nobody but LeEco knows, apparently hardware for all versions are basically same. My X822 became a X820 after flashing the EUI5.9 firmware.
3. I had no issue with the camera. Those blurry photos might have been taken by competitors. No, photos cannot be saved in RAW.
4. Considering it screen size and resolutions, to me, battery life is not bad at all. At least it is much better than my previous Samsung Note 2.
Im pretty happy with Mine. It's very inexpensive but has a few drawbacks. As you know there's No 3.5mm headphone Jack and u Can also not add any memory in Form of mictoSD to it.
If ure aware of that, and still want to get it, go for it!
For your questions.
Im running cuoco92 Rom (custom Rom based on the Chinese Stock rom) atm having ~140k on antutu usually.
Batterie Life is Okay. Im getting around 40+ hours with light-mediun useage.
Camera as well does Great Pictures, at night it's meeh but for the usual Daily shots it's perfect. It Can record in 4kbut these Videos Seem rather shaky and u have to refocus All the time.
On Heavy usage: watching lots of Videos playing games etc. It will be Dead by the End of day for Sure.
The Screen is very Bright and very Sharp. I actually have my brightness at normally around 15% and it's more than enough for me. Also in direct sunlight, u can still really easily read the Phone.
I Can highly advice u this Phone, especially if u are a bit on a tight budget.
Xiaomi has better international Support as well as more custom roms so it's a good choice as well.
Last but not least, I have heard the zte Axon 7 should be a really nice alternative too.
English is not my native language so don't mind the spelling.
ZTE Axon 7 is actually what I'd love to buy (AMOLED QHD screen + stereo speakers = win-win), but it's way above my budget, and I've heard stories that Le Max 2 has serious quality issues. So, I'm still hesitant.
Thank you for your answers!
I am very satisfied with the camera performance. It's no S7 or Pixel, but it's bloody good for a $230 phone.
For battery life, I normally get about 4-6 hours SOT in a day's use. Have pushed 8 on days with a lot of continuous use and using some of eui's battery saving features. Considering the size of the battery and the 2K screen, battery life is certainly not bad, and with QC3.0 you can get a boost to last the rest of the day within a very short time on charge.
Hi, Can anyone comment on the speaker of this phone? is it good/loud enough watching video or you tube?
I have LG G4 speaker is pretty good and loud for my like. Anyone come from G4 to Le Max 2? Can you comment, thank you.
See thread about Camera 2 API. After this tweak I obtain Dng files with AZ Camera.
One hour of watching Full HD movie takes about 18-22%. 4G+GPS drains battery a little bit too fast.
Battery life is good. One day at University is no Problem with a lot activity.
Camera is OK for the price. At low light the pictures are Bad for raw there is a camera2api thread, but i didn't try that.
Restfettn said:
Im pretty happy with Mine. It's very inexpensive but has a few drawbacks. As you know there's No 3.5mm headphone Jack and u Can also not add any memory in Form of mictoSD to it.
If ure aware of that, and still want to get it, go for it!
For your questions.
Im running cuoco92 Rom (custom Rom based on the Chinese Stock rom) atm having ~140k on antutu usually.
Batterie Life is Okay. Im getting around 40+ hours with light-mediun useage.
Camera as well does Great Pictures, at night it's meeh but for the usual Daily shots it's perfect. It Can record in 4kbut these Videos Seem rather shaky and u have to refocus All the time.
On Heavy usage: watching lots of Videos playing games etc. It will be Dead by the End of day for Sure.
The Screen is very Bright and very Sharp. I actually have my brightness at normally around 15% and it's more than enough for me. Also in direct sunlight, u can still really easily read the Phone.
I Can highly advice u this Phone, especially if u are a bit on a tight budget.
Xiaomi has better international Support as well as more custom roms so it's a good choice as well.
Last but not least, I have heard the zte Axon 7 should be a really nice alternative too.
English is not my native language so don't mind the spelling.
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What do you mean by medium light usage? 40+ hours? Nearly 2 days? Do you use WiFi? Which rom?
Regards
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fortez said:
Battery life is good. One day at University is no Problem with a lot activity.
Camera is OK for the price. At low light the pictures are Bad for raw there is a camera2api thread, but i didn't try that.
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Can you define "lot of activity" and which rom?
chrismt said:
Can you define "lot of activity" and which rom?
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Im on CH .21 stable and deleted trash. Lot of activity is about 6h display activity with facebook, whatsapp, a bit Pokémon, chrome, other little games.
ApTeM said:
ZTE Axon 7 is actually what I'd love to buy (AMOLED QHD screen + stereo speakers = win-win), but it's way above my budget, and I've heard stories that Le Max 2 has serious quality issues. So, I'm still hesitant.
Thank you for your answers!
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Can you really tell the difference between mono and stereo from a 3" wide phone,? At best, the speakers are 2" apart. Perhaps, it is better to have mono and make the speaker larger.
I think the so called quality issue was mainly due to the third party ROM which most sellers installed it for non Chinese buyers. Stick with the stock Chinese ROM or the third party ROM with good ratings, the phone should be fine.
Le Max 2 gives you the best bang for the buck, no question about it.
How is the charging time for this phone? Is it fast?
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How is the charging time for this phone? Is it fast?
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Qualcomm quick charge 3
Very good and fast
guys i m a heavy gamer shall i buy it? what kind of issues you are facing in le max2. else i bought someother mobiles my budget is 19k. please help me
I want to know if the phone heats up uncomfortably during gaming.
The review in gsmarena noted that the phone heats up during the benchmark tests.
I'm going to sell this Leeco Le Max 2, which device listed below is the best trade value?
T-Mobile or Factory Unlocked LG G5
OnePlus 2
Nexus 6P
Hello guys, i will buy the pocophone tomorrow afternoon, and i was wonder what are the general oponions about this device?
I am here to ear experiences about users that bougjt the poco f1?
I want to know honest opinion related to general?
About camera?
Speed?
Screen?
Thanks
Hi,
I bought this phone recently and I can tell I'm happy with it.
The speed is blazing as it uses the most powerful processor on the market (well, until the Huawei Mate 20 Pro came out with the Kirin 980 SoC, but it's still the second best as of now).
The screen is one of the best IPS panel I've ever seen. It has vibrant colors and is really nice to see. Still, I think it can't compete with OLED screens like you will find on the OnePlus 6 or other high-end devices. That's certainly not the best screen overall, but clearly one of the best IPS screen for a mobile device.
The sound output is excellent as well, I use it daily with my Sennheiser Momentum (over-ear, second version). I find it has too much bass so I reduced them using an equalizer, but that's also the best Jack output I've ever seen on a smartphone.
The battery life is also amazing, with clearly two to three days in standard usage - you can't make it K.O. in a single day without playing games all the day long. I personnaly get around 8 hours of screen on time.
For these points, I think that's clearly the best device I've ever had between my hands. But of course, it has downsides to, and here is the list of the ones I've found about this phone :
* Camera is not great. It's not bad, but not great. If you compare it to, let's say, a LG G6, a Samsung Galaxy S8/9 or an iPhone X(R/...) it's the just not the same level;
* Design is fine and I'm not too regarding about this but clearly most competitors (if not all) do better at the same price. The borders are a bit thick, the notch is large, and the bottom border is too big too;
* No Widevine L1 support means you cannot watch Netflix in HD. Apparently they are working on a fix but for now you will be limited so lower resolutions;
* No NFC support means you will not be able to use anything that uses NFC (some payment methods, connection to headphones that support it, etc.)
That's, for me, for main high points and downsides of this phone
So, to sum up a little bit, if you simply want a blazing fast phone at a low price, buy it. But, if you want the best screen to watch your Netflix series in high resolution or want to take high-quality photos, you may prefer a competitor (like the OnePlus 6).
Amazing
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Hello guys, i will buy the pocophone tomorrow afternoon, and i was wonder what are the general oponions about this device?
I am here to ear experiences about users that bougjt the poco f1?
I want to know honest opinion related to general?
About camera?
Speed?
Screen?
Thanks
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Crazy good phone for the price.
The camera is moderate, better than older phones but worse than newer phones.
Speed is crazy fast. I'd recommend rooting it and installing greenify as i felt that the phone gets a big laggy throughout the day (not extremely noticeable) but hibernating the open apps helps. There are some services and pre-installed apps which i removed/disabled to increase free memory and battery life.
Battery is amazing, I commute to school and back home in a total of 4 hours with data, location, and spotify running in the background and it eats maybe 5%.
Screen is beautiful, not as vibrant as OLED screens but still really good looking. I haven't had an screen bleeding issues as others have been complaining about it.
Man was this bumpy ride.
So i've sold my mi8 a few weeks ago and tried few other phones:
First, i bought Samsung Note 9 - 430eur
- great phone, but a rubbish front camera, bad back camera portrait mode, no gcam support.
Then mate 20 pro - 450eur
- great camera but slow fingerprint reader, emui is a mess.
Then s10 - 510eur
- managed to endure just few days with this phone. Exynos version, horrible battery life, barely gor 3h of SOT.
Then oneplus 7 pro - 600eur
- I loved this phone, but man was it big and heavy.
So now i ordered my good trusty mi8 back. Great in hand feel, great camera with gcam, good battery life, and fasters fingerprint possible.
Is it perfect phone, no: big notch, no ultrawide camera, no ip rating or wifi charging.
But for 200eur it gives better user experiance then anny other phone.
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Man was this bumpy ride.
So i've sold my mi8 a few weeks ago and tried few other phones:
First, i bought Samsung Note 9 - 430eur
- great phone, but a rubbish front camera, bad back camera portrait mode, no gcam support.
Then mate 20 pro - 450eur
- great camera but slow fingerprint reader, emui is a mess.
Then s10 - 510eur
- managed to endure just few days with this phone. Exynos version, horrible battery life, barely gor 3h of SOT.
Then oneplus 7 pro - 600eur
- I loved this phone, but man was it big and heavy.
So now i ordered my good trusty mi8 back. Great in hand feel, great camera with gcam, good battery life, and fasters fingerprint possible.
Is it perfect phone, no: big notch, no ultrawide camera, no ip rating or wifi charging.
But for 200eur it gives better user experiance then anny other phone.
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I know what you mean. I owned Mi6 which was (and still is) a wonderful phone but I wanted to try something else. Changed a bunch of them but not one was a worthy replacement until I bought Poco f1, which was excellent, but touch problems were driving me nuts so I sold it.
Recently I bought Mi9t, but fingeprint and popup camera were so annoying I sold it and got a Mi8 which is a heck of a device, slim, light, fast and better phone to use than majority of new devices with their trendy but "pain in the ass" features (in -display fps, popup camera etc...)
Overview:
Samsung: currently One Ui is the best oem skin in my opinion, but they are too expensive, and their midrange phones are destroyed by competition in every aspect except for the screen quality. Have bad fps scanners and Exynos versions have lack of support.
Xiaomi: Best bang for buck, excellent fps, excellent support etc...only problem is battery drain on some Miui versions...
Huawei: Great hardware with the worst software...Emui is just ugly and outdated and really needs some refreshment. Also they are like android version of iOs, everything is locked, support is rubbish and you really need some knowledge to amuse yourself with some custom roms and tweaks.
Oneplus: Best of all in all regards, not so cheap anymore but they dont need to be, and they shouldn't be. Cameras not top notch but excellent support, superb displays, software etc... No matter what the price, the best.
LG: Good phones, but too expensive. V50 is maybe the best phone out there, but people are just not interested in them anymore, so the support will suffer also. Probably will follow HTC down the drain.
Nokia/Motorola/Sony: Not worth mentioning. Average at best, lack too many things....Was a fan of Sony for years, but after owning a few of them I was dissapointed. Motorola had some superb phones but they started to make same things like Nokia, midrange phones that nobody wants to buy, and I can't blame them.
Oppo/Vivo/Asus: They make some interesting phones, especially Realme who is destined to be the next xiaomi...looks promising but availability is still limited.
The only thing about which I'm not so excited is Miui 11....they messed up the system animations and make navigating the system slower than on Miui 10. I hoped it would make more sense to simplify things....but they didn't. If they don't change something I think this is my last Xiaomi device...
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I don't understand people like you, this is a forum. If you want short messages then chat with your mother on whatsapp. If you're not interested in what other people have to say, you can just leave or shut up
@CROrION, @mejgs
I completely agree! I have also owned many very expensive phones and the mi8 is by far my favorite. My son has a Samsung Note 9 and I will take my Mi8 anyday over his or his Wife's iPhone XS. No doubt, I love this phone and will stay with it for at least another year or two, and then I will buy another Xiaomi.
I have been a happy mi8 owner. Actually it's my first Xiaomi phone, and gosh, can't go back to others.
I have been tempted to upgrade to mi9 and 9T pro. However, after listening to comments from brothers/sisters here, i think i will keep my loyal mi8.
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I have been a happy mi8 owner. Actually it's my first Xiaomi phone, and gosh, can't go back to others.
I have been tempted to upgrade to mi9 and 9T pro. However, after listening to comments from brothers/sisters here, i think i will keep my loyal mi8.
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Yeah, not worth it, and it's coming from my personal experience. The only thing that's better on 9t Pro are looks (subjective)...Usability wise Mi8 is better. I even get the same battery life even though 9t has a larger battery...
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CROrION said:
Man was this bumpy ride.
So i've sold my mi8 a few weeks ago and tried few other phones:
First, i bought Samsung Note 9 - 430eur
- great phone, but a rubbish front camera, bad back camera portrait mode, no gcam support.
Then mate 20 pro - 450eur
- great camera but slow fingerprint reader, emui is a mess.
Then s10 - 510eur
- managed to endure just few days with this phone. Exynos version, horrible battery life, barely gor 3h of SOT.
Then oneplus 7 pro - 600eur
- I loved this phone, but man was it big and heavy.
So now i ordered my good trusty mi8 back. Great in hand feel, great camera with gcam, good battery life, and fasters fingerprint possible.
Is it perfect phone, no: big notch, no ultrawide camera, no ip rating or wifi charging.
But for 200eur it gives better user experiance then anny other phone.
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i absolutely know how you feel, i had this experiece as well with MI8, P20 pro, Mate 20 pro and even the Mi9
Now i've a p30 pro and my girlfriend is using the Mi8. The photos of the mi8 with gcam are stunning and in some situations it knocks out the p30 pro easily (i terms with HDR)
the only reason i prefer the p30 pro is in battery life and for the reason it has a ultra wide angle lens.
Otherwise i would switch to mi8 back again.
Yes. Mi 8 is a great device. Especially with Miui 11 and Xiaomi.EU and GCam. Got it few weeks ago, but just as a spare and flashing phone. My daily driver is a s9+ Exynos with oreo and GCam and I absolutely love it. Made some GCam comparison between these phones. Almost identical but a big advantage is that the mi 8s SD offers instant zero shutter lag pictures. That's not possible with my s9+. And yes of course my s9 Gcam also doesn't offer a night mode. But that's ok. A Mi 8 with Stereo Speaker and QI would be so freaking awesome.
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Yes. Mi 8 is a great device. Especially with Miui 11 and Xiaomi.EU and GCam. Got it few weeks ago, but just as a spare and flashing phone. My daily driver is a s9+ Exynos with oreo and GCam and I absolutely love it. Made some GCam comparison between these phones. Almost identical but a big advantage is that the mi 8s SD offers instant zero shutter lag pictures. That's not possible with my s9+. And yes of course my s9 Gcam also doesn't offer a night mode. But that's ok. A Mi 8 with Stereo Speaker and QI would be so freaking awesome.
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Yeah, I don't understand why Xiaomi cant build a phone with stereo speakers. I don't really care about wireless charging but the addition of Dolby and an extra speaker would be amazing. It's the only thing that I am missing from my old Le Pro 3, it had the most amazing speaker sound quality.
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Yeah, I don't understand why Xiaomi cant build a phone with stereo speakers. I don't really care about wireless charging but the addition of Dolby and an extra speaker would be amazing. It's the only thing that I am missing from my old Le Pro 3, it had the most amazing speaker sound quality.
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Most people who care about sound quality will use wired or bluetooth headphones.
How good can a small speaker sound on a small phone? Not to mention there is so much ambient noise? It's quite pointless.
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Most people who care about sound quality will use wired or bluetooth headphones.
How good can a small speaker sound on a small phone? Not to mention there is so much ambient noise? It's quite pointless.
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That is your opinion, it seems that you haven't heard quality speakers on a phone. You would be surprised with how good it can sound. But of course it doesn't compare to larger speakers, with a default flat frequency range.
"It's quite pointless" What is the point of your post? Yes, I have high quality Bluetooth speakers. In fact several different types large and small. You don't see the value that is fine, stick with buying whatever you want. my point was that many phone manufacturers release phones with dual speakers. Xiaomi, doesn't seem to have any recently released phones with stereo speakers
I want stereo speakers because I play musical instruments and I don't always have the a bluetooth speaker with me, many decent quality phones also have pretty decent omnidirectional microphones, which are great for recording scratch tracks with an acoustic guitar. FYI scratch tracks are basically riff ideas, that you save and later build a complete song with those ideas. Another fun thing to do, is once you have recorded 8 bars, you can then loop it and then solo or play arpeggiated phrasing over top of the loop It's definitely a lot of fun. Stereo speakers enhance it and can further provide the ability to hear manually made effects, if merging multitracks.
CROrION said:
So now i ordered my good trusty mi8 back. Great in hand feel, great camera with gcam, good battery life, and fasters fingerprint possible.
Is it perfect phone, no: big notch, no ultrawide camera, no ip rating or wifi charging.
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Nearly the same here! i order my "new" black Mi8 6/256GB today ...
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Nearly the same here! i order my "new" black Mi8 6/256GB today ...
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Can You share where did U order it from, Matija?
I gave my 6/256 MI8 to my Dad. I am planning to get Mi 10....but I might just as well get another MI 8...not sure if MI 10 will be worth the price..compared to MI8...I do a lot of low light pics..and Aquarium pics...and MI 8 was awesome in that area.....
I order it in November 2019 by www.banggood.com in Spain.
I pay about 280€
Hey guys, i'm on a situation here.
I have a Mi A3, bought 3 months ago, and now came the opportunity to get a used Pixel 2 XL for a very low price that my friend is selling.
Pixel 2 XL was a flagship phone, but nowadays, it worth to change my Mi A3 to a Pixel 2 XL?
What do you guys think?
Thanks in advance!
If it Is in good conditions then buy it,
I'd only be concerned whether the screen has noticeable burn in or discoloration. Compare it side by side with your a3. And how much battery life you get.
Otherwise you are getting much higher density display and faster processor. Probably better camera (ignore the mega pixel count, that doesn't mean much) and much better audio. You are losing SD card slot and 3.5mm, so you'll have to use a dongle.
Heck maybe I should look for a used one myself
barth2 said:
I'd only be concerned whether the screen has noticeable burn in or discoloration. Compare it side by side with your a3. And how much battery life you get.
Otherwise you are getting much higher density display and faster processor. Probably better camera (ignore the mega pixel count, that doesn't mean much) and much better audio. You are losing SD card slot and 3.5mm, so you'll have to use a dongle.
Heck maybe I should look for a used one myself
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Many thanks man! So you're telling that even two years older, pixel 2 xl is still way better than Mi A3.
The two things I like most in Mi A3 are camera and battery, and that's the only two things that I think Mi A3 could beat Pixel 2 XL. That's why I got on this "dilemma".
I'll try to do a test drive and use both for a week, if my friend let me.
natanfranghieru said:
Many thanks man! So you're telling that even two years older, pixel 2 xl is still way better than Mi A3.
The two things I like most in Mi A3 are camera and battery, and that's the only two things that I think Mi A3 could beat Pixel 2 XL. That's why I got on this "dilemma".
I'll try to do a test drive and use both for a week, if my friend let me.
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Oh yeah the a3 will win on the battery life since it's really good there and pixel phones aren't known for great battery life and this one is two years old. And the a3 has a nicer form factor, smaller bevel, small notch. But otherwise flagship from Google even two years ago is going to have advantage over mid range from xiaomi.
I'll be curious to hear your experience, so please come back and share your experience with the two phones.
If it were easy to replace the pixel battery... But a lower spec new phone/battery is the way to go.
I had similar dilemma, whether to buy older Pixel 2/3 or Mi A3. Pixel 3a was in the play as well. After all I ruled out any phone without 3.5mm jack as I use wired headphones daily, often while charging the phone, so USB-C dongle is out of the question. BT dongle is not convenient for me either and I refuse to buy BT headphones just because phone manufacturers are "stupid" (and I already have many good headphones).
Pixel 3a has terrible battery, small storage and no SD card slot.
Also having the latest Android version immediately is not that good if the phone's rooted. I often had compatibility issues with root or apps which couldn't catch up with the changes (I'm pointing at you Sygic) on my old Nexus 5x.
Android One phones with 3.5mm jack and big storage and SD slot are the way to go for me. Big battery and good camera are nice bonus.
Just my 2 cents
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BT dongle is not convenient for me either and I refuse to buy BT headphones just because phone manufacturers are "stupid" (and I already have many good headphones).
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What headphones do you use? I have a grado sr60 and the 3.5mm Jack output is really lackluster. Using viper4 Android to boost gain and Bass and surround helps a little but still not quite good.
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What headphones do you use? I have a grado sr60 and the 3.5mm Jack output is really lackluster. Using viper4 Android to boost gain and Bass and surround helps a little but still not quite good.
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Mostly IEMs (Etymotic research and many "chi-fi") and Marshall Monitor. Marshall needs corrective equalisation to get the best sound out of it, but that's true for any audio source and these headphones. For IEMs I use only small extra bass boost. Volume wise I rarely go above 75% and I find sound quality to be very good even when compared to dedicated desktop amps. Mi A3 for sure can't properly drive high impedance headphones (Beyerdynamic, AKG,..), but IMHO that's only good as the output would be most probably noisy with portable headphones (Mi A1 is a very good example). For portable headphones I don't find anything lacking.
It is not worth upgrading, the only 2 things you will feel as a upgrade will be speakers and display.