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So I am wanting to get rid of my pos 6s plus... I was looking at the v10 or the nexus 6p..which do you guys think is best?
Here are a few questions I had on the v10...
How are the cameras ? And how's the front for selfies ?
How is the audio quality ? Is it really that much better then other phones?
If I installed viper4android would the dac be pointless or would it be a super dac basically ?
How's the battery life ?
Is it quick or does it get laggy like the G4? Thanks !!!
. Nexus 6p camera was great until i used a note 5 camera. I liked the note 5 front facing camera until i used the g4 front facing camera which was the best i used on a phone. Sprint don't have the v10 or i would of had it but my guess would be a similar experience as the g4 but bigger and a extra screen .
Get the 6p
The 6P is honestly one of the worst smartphones I've heard in terms of audio quality, while the V10 is the best, so it's a night and day difference in that regard. The V10 also has the better camera from what I've seen (I haven't used the 6P extensively, a friend owns one), but the gap there isn't as big.
I'd get the T-Mobile V10, since it's only variant that allows you to unlock the bootloader so you can throw a debloated ROM on there, which was a must for me
It all depends on what your looking for in a phone.
If you want the best audio play back while plugged into the 3.5'm port, than get the V10 . But if you never use the 3.5 port than you'll never enjoy the awesome audio.
If you want the best camera around than the V10 is the way to go. There's claims that the 6P can hang with the V10, but your still going to get slightly sharper imagines from V10.
When everyone asks about the V10 and audio quality, you first need to ask yourself what you expect to hear as far as difference goes between a DAC and the standard Snapdragon DAC. If you don't know how to answer that question, than you probably aren't looking for the right phone. If you have a pair of headphones that can show you the difference between a track with a noisy floor and not, then you probably should look at the V10. I use a pair of Westone 4r IEM's. Audio quality is about what *you* hear.. *your* opinion, not others! Understand that wanting Viper working in tandem with the DAC is not an example of audio quality. The purpose of the second DAC is to present you with the closest reproduction as possible to the source - without equalization, in this case - Viper.
That being said, using Viper with this phones built in Snapdragon DAC, there's very noticeable loudness over nearly all other phones on the market, but that is not audio quality, that's audio gain. Big difference!
I've got a V10 T-Mo version. I also have a T-Mo LG G4, M9 Dev edition Note 5, S6 and a Moto X Pure 2015. You just need to sit down and weigh the pros and cons of the phones you decide to pick from. Don't accept personal opinion because they will all be biased! I took my $500 headphones into the store and listened to each one. People thought I was crazy! I love and hate things about the V10. The G4 was extremely laggy until I put CM13 on it. I am absolutely blown away by the battery life I get on it now! AND it has the same Snapdragon 808 DAC that everyone raves about in the V10.
V10 has:
1) buggy fingerprint reader when a case is on the phone (a google search will show this - I hate having no case)
2) LCD bleeding on the second screen (found on many blogs - as mine does)
3) poor battery life considering the 3,000 mah battery and idle with just stock apps (my personal experience as well as others)
4) The inability to root and change the LCD density. Doing so causes FC's upon boot and you have to factory reset. This has been an issue for months and will remain until a a dev finds a work around. Seriously, this phone has a larger physical screen but you see less on the screen than any other phone I've listed!
5) GREAT camera, but LAGGY shutter times. It's unfortunate. Camera can keep up with the S6 camera in the right conditions but that's just the thing.. "right conditions" and how long it takes from pocket to snapping that photo.
6) EXCELLENT built in dual audio system. Viper DOES work with the built in DAC - but the ESS chip lowers the gain (can't go as loud) so most all people I've read in blogs say they just use viper on the stock Snapdragon 808 DAC. Googling will show how to enable the DAC on all apps, not just the stock.
7) EXCELLENT build quality, though some don't like the rubber texture of the back
I'm probably the only one here that will tell you out of all those phones they would choose the G4. (See, that was a biased answer.) Previous posters are right in saying if you're looking for the best sound, get a V10 (It edges out the HTC m9 and obliterates the S6) - but make sure you're willing to overlook its downfalls.
The biggest piece of advice I can give anyone is - There's ALWAYS a catch! Make sure if you're willing to live with that devices catch and you're good to go!
Out of the phones I have (again - biased personal opinion)
Best Camera - Note 5
Worst Camera - Moto X Pure
Best Audio Quality - LG V10
Worst Audio Quality - S6
Best Audio Loudness - LG V10
Worst Audio Loudness - Moto X Pure (which is odd because it's the same 808 Snapdragon.)
Best Battery - Note 5 (It's a matter of physics)
Worst Battery - LG V10
Best Build - LG V10 (Sorry, but they give you removable battery and microSD)
Worst Build - Moto X Pure (it's also the cheapest - lies... i'm sorry.. it's actually $399 which is what they are still selling the G4 for)
Best feel in the hand - S6
Worst feel in the hand - LG V10 (C'mon.. the thing is a tank!!!)
Easiest to root and install 3rd party ROM - G4 hands down! It's as easy as any Nexus device I've ever owned
Hardest to root and install 3rd party ROM - HTC M9 - but only because I had to pay $25 to unlock the bootloader with the SunShine app.
Hope my 2 cents helps!
Cheers!!!
I just noticed that, GSMAREANA reported: "Headphones dropped the loudness to way below average, while introducing an average amount of stereo crosstalk and a bit of intermodulation distortion. Not a disastrous showing by any means, but not one worth writing home about. And if you own a pair of high-impedance headphones you might want to keep in mind that you might struggle to achieve high volume levels."
does anyone (who own the phone) notice this?
im about buying it, but i'm worried i will regret cuz i always use wired headphones and dont want go near wireless ones.
Johan_Khan said:
I just noticed that, GSMAREANA reported: "Headphones dropped the loudness to way below average, while introducing an average amount of stereo crosstalk and a bit of intermodulation distortion. Not a disastrous showing by any means, but not one worth writing home about. And if you own a pair of high-impedance headphones you might want to keep in mind that you might struggle to achieve high volume levels."
does anyone (who own the phone) notice this?
im about buying it, but i'm worried i will regret cuz i always use wired headphones and dont want go near wireless ones.
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Stock sounds are pretty low, but you can use the Mi headphone enhancements to amp up the audio and also use the equaliser to tune the music to your preference. It has the same amp as the Mi A2 (or A1 if you're very used it). The only phone able to surpass this on my audio Technica high impedence headphones is the LG G7 ThinQ, which is quite obvious. It isn't very extraordinaty, but nothing to complain about. Most reviewers don't check out all features and most of all, Xiaomi hasn't made it easy to find the enhancement settings
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Stock sounds are pretty low, but you can use the Mi headphone enhancements to amp up the audio and also use the equaliser to tune the music to your preference. It has the same amp as the Mi A2 (or A1 if you're very used it). The only phone able to surpass this on my audio Technica high impedence headphones is the LG G7 ThinQ, which is quite obvious. It isn't very extraordinaty, but nothing to complain about. Most reviewers don't check out all features and most of all, Xiaomi hasn't made it easy to find the enhancement settings
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Thanks for the replay, may I ask did you tried it, or some did try it, I don't want to regret after I buy it.
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Stock sounds are pretty low, but you can use the Mi headphone enhancements to amp up the audio and also use the equaliser to tune the music to your preference. It has the same amp as the Mi A2 (or A1 if you're very used it). The only phone able to surpass this on my audio Technica high impedence headphones is the LG G7 ThinQ, which is quite obvious. It isn't very extraordinaty, but nothing to complain about. Most reviewers don't check out all features and most of all, Xiaomi hasn't made it easy to find the enhancement settings
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I own the phone and would be surprised if it really had the sane audio setup as the MiA1 or A2, may I request you to share the source of tbis information.
I own a LG V20 myself and the audio quad dac was the biggest reason I wasn't giving it up, already have the f1 too but knowing it has the audio capabilities will help me take the plunge of giving up V20
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I own the phone and would be surprised if it really had the sane audio setup as the MiA1 or A2, may I request you to share the source of tbis information.
I own a LG V20 myself and the audio quad dac was the biggest reason I wasn't giving it up, already have the f1 too but knowing it has the audio capabilities will help me take the plunge of giving up V20
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I have the Poco F1 and also the MiA1 and the MiA2 and the LG G7. This is my personal experience. But I got to say, don't go into the phone expecting extraordinaty sounds like more expensive phones. If you had already used MiA1 or A2, you would know exactly what to expect. It is nothing compared to the
LG and that's what I said earlier
iamsabresh said:
I have the Poco F1 and also the MiA1 and the MiA2 and the LG G7. This is my personal experience. But I got to say, don't go into the phone expecting extraordinaty sounds like more expensive phones. If you had already used MiA1 or A2, you would know exactly what to expect. It is nothing compared to the
LG and that's what I said earlier
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Thanks for the response, and yeah certainly not expecting an experience at the level of LG's quad dac, but even something similar to MiA1 will be quite good
I tried it in my car using Bluetooth and output is pretty low. I had increase the volume to 15-16 to be able to hear anything.
I am planning to purchase POCO F1, and I am currently using Lenovo P2. I found it weird that in GSMArena review, the objective lab test numbers for audio are worse than that of Lenovo P2, when tested with headphones.
Now Lenovo P2 doesn't have a custom DAC as far as I know, and most probably be relying on SD625 embedded one.
1. So how can the above result of POCO F1 be correct, when it had SD845 Audio and POCO Claims it has a dedicated amp for 3.5mm jack as well as DiracHD tuning?
2. Or is there difference in output with the various modes in MIUI Headphone enhancements in settings?
Experienced hands please let us know. Thanks.
Because Xiaomi didn't implement Snapdragon DAC into MIUI. If anyone need the DAC for High Impedance output, just try Neutron or Poweramp Music Player.
But, be careful, sometimes because Hi-Res output came from DAC directly, volume can be too loud. Reduce your media volume first before trying
Don't worry about the sound. Someone will make a good mod in a month. So be patient. Sound mods will arrive soon and utilize the SD845 sound properly
My mi5 sounded much better than this packing a snapdragon 820 very let down by the headphone jack quality it lacks all the punch in base and clear highs i got from my mi5 :[§ hope someone makes a dac mod which enables the true potential of sd845
Will Neutron Player be able to exploit SD845 DAC? Or is there any other player readily available in PlayStore that can do it?
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I just noticed that, GSMAREANA reported: "Headphones dropped the loudness to way below average, while introducing an average amount of stereo crosstalk and a bit of intermodulation distortion. Not a disastrous showing by any means, but not one worth writing home about. And if you own a pair of high-impedance headphones you might want to keep in mind that you might struggle to achieve high volume levels."
does anyone (who own the phone) notice this?
im about buying it, but i'm worried i will regret cuz i always use wired headphones and dont want go near wireless ones.
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Yes I am using and this problem caused after recent update and Xiaomi- POCO INDIA AND GLOBAL told us via their twitter account that fix is coming soon.
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Yes I am using and this problem caused after recent update and Xiaomi- POCO INDIA AND GLOBAL told us via their twitter account that fix is coming soon.
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Could you share the Tweet link?
I hope Dolby support in MIUI 10 would give us also the ability to drive higher impedance headphones.
I had Mi A1 which used to have that output until Xiaomi murdered its sound quality last May.
I tried a flac song on sennheiser hd598, and compared against my LG V20, the sound quality was good and closeto what my V20 drives, on the poco had to punp up the volume a bit though.
Not really an audiophile, but the audio output was not bad by any means.
I'm using the Pocophone F1 with Beyerdynamic dt770 pro 80 ohm headphones and even if quality is not perfect as my other phone (Vivo X21UD) volume is similar
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Will Neutron Player be able to exploit SD845 DAC? Or is there any other player readily available in PlayStore that can do it?
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Poweramp can also do it. Until now, only those 2 players that can output Hi-Res Output directly from Snapdragon DAC.
bkmagnetron said:
Could you share the Tweet link?
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Sure
https://twitter.com/atytse/status/1037700537268023296?s=19
http://en.miui.com/thread-3754917-1-1.html
Vivek05 said:
Sure
https://twitter.com/atytse/status/1037700537268023296?s=19
http://en.miui.com/thread-3754917-1-1.html
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Its just deals with the pubg audio bug
I have recently bought a Poco F1 and I need a good pair of earphones. I have a Samsung earphone, but I am afraid to use it. The last time I was in a Xiaomi service centre for my Mi A1, one of the technicians suggested me not to use Samsung earphones. He said the headphone jack on Samsung has a bit different shape even though 3.5mm headphone jack is universal. Samsung 3.5mm jacks are a bit narrow on the edge and thick at the bottom/end. Due to this structure, if it's pushed hard, the 3.5mm port may get damaged or loosen in a long run. After hearing this, I stopped using Samsung earphones (except Samsung devices) and now I am looking for a earphones which can produce perfect balanced music (not heavy bass or heavy treble). I was thinking of going for Xiaomi earphones, but the reviews are not good. Can someone please help me??
Thank you!!
I bought some Xiaomi Mi Youth earphones. Only about€5 and really nice sound quality (especially with the phone set to the right EQ for the earphones in settings)
Depends a bit on your taste, and the situation you want to use them.
For my home, I use a Sony MDR-10RNC, they are amazing in terms of sound quality. And I also got them pretty cheap, like 50 dollars, they were originally like 200 so I got a pretty got deal, sadly since they are also a bit old, like 6 years, you might have trouble to find them on that price.
For exterior, I use Bluetooth headphones, the Jaybird X2 you can find them also around the same price, or X1 cheaper, they sound quite great for bluetooth headphones, they are sweat proof, but I have use them on rains and never had a problem with them. They also deliver very good sound with poco, and to me they are very practical for subway or streets.
Hope it was from help!
Still using my Klipsch S4A II edition. Nice sound especially when listening to music with Viper4Android in it.
I am Using Apple Genuine 3.5mm .Perfect with "Mi Earbuds" in EQ Option.
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I have recently bought a Poco F1 and I need a good pair of earphones. I have a Samsung earphone, but I am afraid to use it. The last time I was in a Xiaomi service centre for my Mi A1, one of the technicians suggested me not to use Samsung earphones. He said the headphone jack on Samsung has a bit different shape even though 3.5mm headphone jack is universal. Samsung 3.5mm jacks are a bit narrow on the edge and thick at the bottom/end. Due to this structure, if it's pushed hard, the 3.5mm port may get damaged or loosen in a long run. After hearing this, I stopped using Samsung earphones (except Samsung devices) and now I am looking for a earphones which can produce perfect balanced music (not heavy bass or heavy treble). I was thinking of going for Xiaomi earphones, but the reviews are not good. Can someone please help me??
Thank you!!
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You can go for sennheiser one they are bit costly but has perfect balance between bass & treble. crystal clear sound as per my liking.
BUT what ever you go, go with earbuds which provide buttons so that you can change the song using it as in MIUI there's no provision to skip song via volume button on phone.
Oneplus 1st gen is also good option. (it has mic & 3 buttons and good sound at cheaper rate, afaik sennheiser one with same would cost you around twice as much)
Rowdyy Ronnie said:
I have recently bought a Poco F1 and I need a good pair of earphones. I have a Samsung earphone, but I am afraid to use it. The last time I was in a Xiaomi service centre for my Mi A1, one of the technicians suggested me not to use Samsung earphones. He said the headphone jack on Samsung has a bit different shape even though 3.5mm headphone jack is universal. Samsung 3.5mm jacks are a bit narrow on the edge and thick at the bottom/end. Due to this structure, if it's pushed hard, the 3.5mm port may get damaged or loosen in a long run. After hearing this, I stopped using Samsung earphones (except Samsung devices) and now I am looking for a earphones which can produce perfect balanced music (not heavy bass or heavy treble). I was thinking of going for Xiaomi earphones, but the reviews are not good. Can someone please help me??
Thank you!!
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interesting that you say that , thats why many complain sammy akg earphone is not working well with poco , i explain to a few people yet they are ignorant about it , lol
im using the Xiaomi Mi In-Ear Headphones Pro 2 / Quantie 2 which is present in the MIUI headphone settings.
curious anyone install soundabout app ? kept crashing
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im using the Xiaomi Mi In-Ear Headphones Pro 2 / Quantie 2 which is present in the MIUI headphone settings.
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How is it?? I placed order and cant wait for it to arrive...
Btw im still use Piston 3 and S8 Akg earphone at the moment...
Some offbeat ChiFi suggestions -
1. KZ ES4 (about 14$)
2. Rock Zircon (about 11$)
3. Tin audio T2 (about 35$)
All of them can be bought from aliexpress/gearbest and more than justify their price. Currently rocking an ES4 with my Poco and very happy with them. Hope it helps.
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How is it?? I placed order and cant wait for it to arrive...
Btw im still use Piston 3 and S8 Akg earphone at the moment...
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They are excellent except the problem lies with the Poweramp or Pocophone being unable to play HiFi Flac files at 24bit via Direct HD.
I am using Viper4Android as main equalizer but havent tweaked it yet for this earphone as i am waiting for Android Pie Stable update for the Poco.
Keep your impedance low (true for wired earphones/headphones)
Good day, if you wanted to have better earphones just make sure to keep track with their impedances.
Keep your impedances in this range (earphones, IEMs, and the likes): 20 ohms or below, you can do up to 25 ohms max but that's really a gamble, I've seen that @prateekj1993 has posted a 25 ohm KZ ES4 and it works so I guess I'll adjust my recommendations up to 25 ohms as before I only suggest up to 20 ohms.
For headphones, you need to do lower impedance than earphones due to bigger speaker driver. You should keep your impedance below 16 ohms for higher peak volume, anything greater would make you crank you volume to max everytime as what I always did on my 19 ohms (passive mode) MDR-NC8 headphones. Active headphones with their own dedicated volume is an exception OFC.
Here's what I have:
1. KZ ZS6 (15 ohms).
2. KZ ZS5 (16 ohms).
3. MDR-NC8 (17 ohms active, 19 ohms passive).
I advice anyone posting here about their recommended earphones or IEMs to post the model name and the corresponding impedances. Thank you for reading.
Rowdyy Ronnie said:
I have recently bought a Poco F1 and I need a good pair of earphones. I have a Samsung earphone, but I am afraid to use it. The last time I was in a Xiaomi service centre for my Mi A1, one of the technicians suggested me not to use Samsung earphones. He said the headphone jack on Samsung has a bit different shape even though 3.5mm headphone jack is universal. Samsung 3.5mm jacks are a bit narrow on the edge and thick at the bottom/end. Due to this structure, if it's pushed hard, the 3.5mm port may get damaged or loosen in a long run. After hearing this, I stopped using Samsung earphones (except Samsung devices) and now I am looking for a earphones which can produce perfect balanced music (not heavy bass or heavy treble). I was thinking of going for Xiaomi earphones, but the reviews are not good. Can someone please help me??
Thank you!!
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https://www.amazon.in/Focal-Sense-1...ords=focal&dpPl=1&dpID=31UFZZ8eYUL&ref=plSrch
You won't get to see such premium build and fantastic sound quality in this price range. This pair of earphones is bomb.
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They are excellent except the problem lies with the Poweramp or Pocophone being unable to play HiFi Flac files at 24bit via Direct HD.
I am using Viper4Android as main equalizer but havent tweaked it yet for this earphone as i am waiting for Android Pie Stable update for the Poco.
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Ohh man, i was really looking forward using that with poweramp...
Btw our DAC are not fully ultilise? Or Poco DAC sucks??
Well impedance is not a parameter for audioquality
If you have the money and you want one of the best planar magnetic inears: audeze isine 10 or isine 20
They sound like big overears of even like a soundsystem, amazing iem's i have the isine 20 and its par on par with the audeze lcd 3 bigger brother
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Ohh man, i was really looking forward using that with poweramp...
Btw our DAC are not fully ultilise? Or Poco DAC sucks??
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I believe it's not fully utilized because the Direct HD used the 24 bit upon an update but unfortunately i messed it up by going into the Audio Settings of the Output which reverts it back to the 16 bit.
Otherwise the sampling frequency options work fine.
I recently bought the OnePlus Wireless Bullets.
Im really happy with those earphones so far
The magnetic functions work so far really well. Auto disconnect and auto connect work. The only thing that does not work is autoplay function when they are connected, but I wouldn't like it anyway.
They have a Type-C connector and Dash Charge.
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Well impedance is not a parameter for audioquality
If you have the money and you want one of the best planar magnetic inears: audeze isine 10 or isine 20
They sound like big overears of even like a soundsystem, amazing iem's i have the isine 20 and its par on par with the audeze lcd 3 bigger brother
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WTF dude, did you just say that impedance is not a parameter for audio quality? Impedance matching is the first thing you should do when you want to match your speaker/earphones/headphones to your amp. Anyways it is known that Poco F1 can drive in-ears up to 25 ohms so your isine 10 and 20 (both 24 ohms) is well within range.
FYI impedance dictates the volume and also how the audio quality behaves all-throughout the volume range. If you match your Poco to a 32 ohm headphones, you'll have a very low volume output even at 100%. Audio quality is nil when you can't hear a decent sound.
Do you know what people does when they blindly bought 32 ohm in ears for Poco? They complain that Poco's sounds too low. You're lucky that your isine is 24 ohms if you have that kind of mindset towards impedance.
I'd recommend you to buy a good DAC cable first since the audio output isn't good for me. You can get Venture Electronics Odyssey for budget or Sonata HD II for a bit higher price range.
For the IEM's, I'd say go for music/audio shops and audition each earphones you find there. Each one has different preference depending on music genres and artists. I currently use KZ ED16 which has balanced sound signature in case you want a reference.
Man was this bumpy ride.
So i've sold my mi8 a few weeks ago and tried few other phones:
First, i bought Samsung Note 9 - 430eur
- great phone, but a rubbish front camera, bad back camera portrait mode, no gcam support.
Then mate 20 pro - 450eur
- great camera but slow fingerprint reader, emui is a mess.
Then s10 - 510eur
- managed to endure just few days with this phone. Exynos version, horrible battery life, barely gor 3h of SOT.
Then oneplus 7 pro - 600eur
- I loved this phone, but man was it big and heavy.
So now i ordered my good trusty mi8 back. Great in hand feel, great camera with gcam, good battery life, and fasters fingerprint possible.
Is it perfect phone, no: big notch, no ultrawide camera, no ip rating or wifi charging.
But for 200eur it gives better user experiance then anny other phone.
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Man was this bumpy ride.
So i've sold my mi8 a few weeks ago and tried few other phones:
First, i bought Samsung Note 9 - 430eur
- great phone, but a rubbish front camera, bad back camera portrait mode, no gcam support.
Then mate 20 pro - 450eur
- great camera but slow fingerprint reader, emui is a mess.
Then s10 - 510eur
- managed to endure just few days with this phone. Exynos version, horrible battery life, barely gor 3h of SOT.
Then oneplus 7 pro - 600eur
- I loved this phone, but man was it big and heavy.
So now i ordered my good trusty mi8 back. Great in hand feel, great camera with gcam, good battery life, and fasters fingerprint possible.
Is it perfect phone, no: big notch, no ultrawide camera, no ip rating or wifi charging.
But for 200eur it gives better user experiance then anny other phone.
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I know what you mean. I owned Mi6 which was (and still is) a wonderful phone but I wanted to try something else. Changed a bunch of them but not one was a worthy replacement until I bought Poco f1, which was excellent, but touch problems were driving me nuts so I sold it.
Recently I bought Mi9t, but fingeprint and popup camera were so annoying I sold it and got a Mi8 which is a heck of a device, slim, light, fast and better phone to use than majority of new devices with their trendy but "pain in the ass" features (in -display fps, popup camera etc...)
Overview:
Samsung: currently One Ui is the best oem skin in my opinion, but they are too expensive, and their midrange phones are destroyed by competition in every aspect except for the screen quality. Have bad fps scanners and Exynos versions have lack of support.
Xiaomi: Best bang for buck, excellent fps, excellent support etc...only problem is battery drain on some Miui versions...
Huawei: Great hardware with the worst software...Emui is just ugly and outdated and really needs some refreshment. Also they are like android version of iOs, everything is locked, support is rubbish and you really need some knowledge to amuse yourself with some custom roms and tweaks.
Oneplus: Best of all in all regards, not so cheap anymore but they dont need to be, and they shouldn't be. Cameras not top notch but excellent support, superb displays, software etc... No matter what the price, the best.
LG: Good phones, but too expensive. V50 is maybe the best phone out there, but people are just not interested in them anymore, so the support will suffer also. Probably will follow HTC down the drain.
Nokia/Motorola/Sony: Not worth mentioning. Average at best, lack too many things....Was a fan of Sony for years, but after owning a few of them I was dissapointed. Motorola had some superb phones but they started to make same things like Nokia, midrange phones that nobody wants to buy, and I can't blame them.
Oppo/Vivo/Asus: They make some interesting phones, especially Realme who is destined to be the next xiaomi...looks promising but availability is still limited.
The only thing about which I'm not so excited is Miui 11....they messed up the system animations and make navigating the system slower than on Miui 10. I hoped it would make more sense to simplify things....but they didn't. If they don't change something I think this is my last Xiaomi device...
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I don't understand people like you, this is a forum. If you want short messages then chat with your mother on whatsapp. If you're not interested in what other people have to say, you can just leave or shut up
@CROrION, @mejgs
I completely agree! I have also owned many very expensive phones and the mi8 is by far my favorite. My son has a Samsung Note 9 and I will take my Mi8 anyday over his or his Wife's iPhone XS. No doubt, I love this phone and will stay with it for at least another year or two, and then I will buy another Xiaomi.
I have been a happy mi8 owner. Actually it's my first Xiaomi phone, and gosh, can't go back to others.
I have been tempted to upgrade to mi9 and 9T pro. However, after listening to comments from brothers/sisters here, i think i will keep my loyal mi8.
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I have been a happy mi8 owner. Actually it's my first Xiaomi phone, and gosh, can't go back to others.
I have been tempted to upgrade to mi9 and 9T pro. However, after listening to comments from brothers/sisters here, i think i will keep my loyal mi8.
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Yeah, not worth it, and it's coming from my personal experience. The only thing that's better on 9t Pro are looks (subjective)...Usability wise Mi8 is better. I even get the same battery life even though 9t has a larger battery...
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CROrION said:
Man was this bumpy ride.
So i've sold my mi8 a few weeks ago and tried few other phones:
First, i bought Samsung Note 9 - 430eur
- great phone, but a rubbish front camera, bad back camera portrait mode, no gcam support.
Then mate 20 pro - 450eur
- great camera but slow fingerprint reader, emui is a mess.
Then s10 - 510eur
- managed to endure just few days with this phone. Exynos version, horrible battery life, barely gor 3h of SOT.
Then oneplus 7 pro - 600eur
- I loved this phone, but man was it big and heavy.
So now i ordered my good trusty mi8 back. Great in hand feel, great camera with gcam, good battery life, and fasters fingerprint possible.
Is it perfect phone, no: big notch, no ultrawide camera, no ip rating or wifi charging.
But for 200eur it gives better user experiance then anny other phone.
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i absolutely know how you feel, i had this experiece as well with MI8, P20 pro, Mate 20 pro and even the Mi9
Now i've a p30 pro and my girlfriend is using the Mi8. The photos of the mi8 with gcam are stunning and in some situations it knocks out the p30 pro easily (i terms with HDR)
the only reason i prefer the p30 pro is in battery life and for the reason it has a ultra wide angle lens.
Otherwise i would switch to mi8 back again.
Yes. Mi 8 is a great device. Especially with Miui 11 and Xiaomi.EU and GCam. Got it few weeks ago, but just as a spare and flashing phone. My daily driver is a s9+ Exynos with oreo and GCam and I absolutely love it. Made some GCam comparison between these phones. Almost identical but a big advantage is that the mi 8s SD offers instant zero shutter lag pictures. That's not possible with my s9+. And yes of course my s9 Gcam also doesn't offer a night mode. But that's ok. A Mi 8 with Stereo Speaker and QI would be so freaking awesome.
Jogg3r said:
Yes. Mi 8 is a great device. Especially with Miui 11 and Xiaomi.EU and GCam. Got it few weeks ago, but just as a spare and flashing phone. My daily driver is a s9+ Exynos with oreo and GCam and I absolutely love it. Made some GCam comparison between these phones. Almost identical but a big advantage is that the mi 8s SD offers instant zero shutter lag pictures. That's not possible with my s9+. And yes of course my s9 Gcam also doesn't offer a night mode. But that's ok. A Mi 8 with Stereo Speaker and QI would be so freaking awesome.
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Yeah, I don't understand why Xiaomi cant build a phone with stereo speakers. I don't really care about wireless charging but the addition of Dolby and an extra speaker would be amazing. It's the only thing that I am missing from my old Le Pro 3, it had the most amazing speaker sound quality.
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Yeah, I don't understand why Xiaomi cant build a phone with stereo speakers. I don't really care about wireless charging but the addition of Dolby and an extra speaker would be amazing. It's the only thing that I am missing from my old Le Pro 3, it had the most amazing speaker sound quality.
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Most people who care about sound quality will use wired or bluetooth headphones.
How good can a small speaker sound on a small phone? Not to mention there is so much ambient noise? It's quite pointless.
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Most people who care about sound quality will use wired or bluetooth headphones.
How good can a small speaker sound on a small phone? Not to mention there is so much ambient noise? It's quite pointless.
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That is your opinion, it seems that you haven't heard quality speakers on a phone. You would be surprised with how good it can sound. But of course it doesn't compare to larger speakers, with a default flat frequency range.
"It's quite pointless" What is the point of your post? Yes, I have high quality Bluetooth speakers. In fact several different types large and small. You don't see the value that is fine, stick with buying whatever you want. my point was that many phone manufacturers release phones with dual speakers. Xiaomi, doesn't seem to have any recently released phones with stereo speakers
I want stereo speakers because I play musical instruments and I don't always have the a bluetooth speaker with me, many decent quality phones also have pretty decent omnidirectional microphones, which are great for recording scratch tracks with an acoustic guitar. FYI scratch tracks are basically riff ideas, that you save and later build a complete song with those ideas. Another fun thing to do, is once you have recorded 8 bars, you can then loop it and then solo or play arpeggiated phrasing over top of the loop It's definitely a lot of fun. Stereo speakers enhance it and can further provide the ability to hear manually made effects, if merging multitracks.
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So now i ordered my good trusty mi8 back. Great in hand feel, great camera with gcam, good battery life, and fasters fingerprint possible.
Is it perfect phone, no: big notch, no ultrawide camera, no ip rating or wifi charging.
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Nearly the same here! i order my "new" black Mi8 6/256GB today ...
Matija Gubec said:
Nearly the same here! i order my "new" black Mi8 6/256GB today ...
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Can You share where did U order it from, Matija?
I gave my 6/256 MI8 to my Dad. I am planning to get Mi 10....but I might just as well get another MI 8...not sure if MI 10 will be worth the price..compared to MI8...I do a lot of low light pics..and Aquarium pics...and MI 8 was awesome in that area.....
I order it in November 2019 by www.banggood.com in Spain.
I pay about 280€
Both are available at approx 25000 INR (335 US$). I am planning to buy either of the above in a day or two. Hoping to keep the device for 2-3 years.
I would be using it for recording videos (YouTube), occasional gaming, Watching Netflix & youtube.
I am leaning towards Reno 10x, only thing missing is the headphone jack. I keep hearing negative reviews about Color OS.
Depending on the version of the ZenFone you'll likely have less ram and storage, a not as nice screen but still good ips display, and the camera system is prone to not staying in its place (fast moment of the phone and the cam module flaps loose)
I've had one since launch - great phone with a clean software experience but lacking in some areas. But better on battery life than the oppo Reno 10x zoom if you're gaming/watching videos also the headphone output from the 3.5 is way better
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Depending on the version of the ZenFone you'll likely have less ram and storage, a not as nice screen but still good iOS display, and the camera system is prone to not staying in its place (fast moment of the phone and the cam module flaps loose)
I've had one since launch - great phone with a clean software experience but lacking in some areas. But better on battery life than the oppo Reno 10x zoom if you're gaming/watching videos also the headphone output from the 3.5 is way better.
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10x eats the Zen for breakfast.
OS is excellent as it is close to Android stock. Camera is solid and battery life is at least 60 hours through normal use.
3.5 headphone jack better? Ha ha. No. The USB-C headphones supplied with the phone are amazing and provide digital output whereas 3.5 jacks are analogue. I use a USB-C adapter to connect to the car stereo and it's perfect (both provide lossless audio quality anyway but USB-C is clearer).
What is a "good iOS display"? It's not an iPhone!!
Thanks for that making fun - gboard auto corrected my ips with ios (didnt review what i typed). Also your view on audio being clearly because its type c is erm ok...
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Depending on the version of the ZenFone you'll likely have less ram and storage, a not as nice screen but still good ips display, and the camera system is prone to not staying in its place (fast moment of the phone and the cam module flaps loose)
I've had one since launch - great phone with a clean software experience but lacking in some areas. But better on battery life than the oppo Reno 10x zoom if you're gaming/watching videos also the headphone output from the 3.5 is way better
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It’s 6gb/64gb variant, I have used my friend’s 6z and was impressed with the camera & Software too.
Thank you for the input.
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Thanks for that making fun - gboard auto corrected my ips with ios (didnt review what i typed). Also your view on audio being clearly because its type c is erm ok...
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Lol...no problem. It was a little bit confusing!
About audio...it's just my opinion and experience based on 40 years of listening to music. I find the USB-C is better, but then it could be a matter of personal taste. I was very unsure about not having a 3.5mm audio jack, but really happy with what I have. I never think about it. Maybe it's all part of just moving with the times?
i love my 10x zoom, color os 7 isn't bad at all its definitely came a long way. Just make sure its the global model and you'll be happy
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i love my 10x zoom, color os 7 isn't bad at all its definitely came a long way. Just make sure its the global model and you'll be happy
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Good to know about the ColorOS. The only variant on sale right now is 6gb/128gb. Is 8gb/256gb the global model?
nikhil_619 said:
Both are available at approx 25000 INR (335 US$). I am planning to buy either of the above in a day or two. Hoping to keep the device for 2-3 years.
I would be using it for recording videos (YouTube), occasional gaming, Watching Netflix & youtube.
I am leaning towards Reno 10x, only thing missing is the headphone jack. I keep hearing negative reviews about Color OS.
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Unless u want better selfie cameras or Stock android, Oppo Reno 10x is better.
Also ur getting double storage for same price.
6z is only available in 64gb variant in India as of right now. all other are out of stock.
Instead of 6z , go for realme x2 pro, which will also be available in the same price range in sale.
I wouldn't recommend Oppo device mainly cuz of ****ty ota support. Choose OnePlus
nikhil_619 said:
Good to know about the ColorOS. The only variant on sale right now is 6gb/128gb. Is 8gb/256gb the global model?
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I'm in UK and have 8/256 GB model
Dooomlord said:
Unless u want better selfie cameras or Stock android, Oppo Reno 10x is better.
Also ur getting double storage for same price.
6z is only available in 64gb variant in India as of right now. all other are out of stock.
Instead of 6z , go for realme x2 pro, which will also be available in the same price range in sale.
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X2 Pro is a good option, though 3000 inr costlier but a good option. Thank You. ?
klisza1993 said:
I wouldn't recommend Oppo device mainly cuz of ****ty ota support. Choose OnePlus
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It costs 100$ more (one plus 7). Will have to extend my budget.