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Hi all,
I love the Sony Tablet except its battery life. for something that is so huge compared to the others similar products out there, I am sure that they could have squeezed a bigger battery into the unit.
The power capacity is pretty weak. Let's hope that Sony offers a higher capacity battery size. I would gladly pay to upgrade it.
That's weird, my battery life is fantastic. If I play games on it all day it'll last 8-12 hours, but if I just use it intermittently and moderately it'll easily last me a couple of days. On standby it only uses a couple percent a day if that!
I'm the same as unclespoon. Even during heavy use, I get about 9 hours, which is way better than my old Galaxy Tab could ever muster. Standby usage is crazy low, its fantastic!
Not sure what you mean either about being larger than most other devices. The Tablet's 9.4" screen is smaller than almost any other full-size Tab out there (including the iPad) and since the back curves, theres not actually a lot of usable rear space (look at how thin its getting at the thin end, now imagine trying to fit a battery in there!)
I'm not sure you'll find a Tab out there currently with a better combo of size/battery life. The chunkier Toshiba Thrive will last longer, the thinner Galaxy Tab's will last even less, and my Tablet S always outlasts my iPad, so it might just be your device. Try checking Settings -> About -> Battery Use
I'm of the same opinion as the op. My tablet s has dreadful battery life and especially when it isn't doing anything. (50% usage is system standby) my old galaxy 7 was far far better (charged about once a week)
I believe this may just be because it is new (only have 1 full charge) as my galaxy s2 was initially unimpressive and then lasted 3 days of moderate use without charge. Hoping the same will happen to my s1.
Time will tell
My only guess was that you did a shoddy job of conditioning the battery. My old Galaxy Tab (the first 7" one) was hopeless, but when I replaced it, I conditioned the battery better and it was a bit better.
My Tablet S lasts for days and days and the standby usage is tiny. Check whats using your battery in the Battery Use screen and get back to us, we might be able to help..
I noticed advanced wifi lock was causing massive amounts of wakelocks (8 hours out of 10 according to the stats in settings/about).
betterbatterystats is not available via market but I am trying out the XDA APK now
wintermute000 said:
I noticed advanced wifi lock was causing massive amounts of wakelocks (8 hours out of 10 according to the stats in settings/about).
betterbatterystats is not available via market but I am trying out the XDA APK now
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I noticed that as well. If you have Advanced WiFi lock activated the tablet won't go into deep sleep mode, there of massive battery usage. I still have Advanced WiFi lock on my tablet, but only activate it when I need to download/update something that takes time. Otherwise I turn it off. It's not worth the battry drain.
Wow. Your battery life are fantastic. 9 hours? That's huge. I have not used my Sony Tablet till flat but given the rate of battery loss think maybe the most is about 5 hours which is similar to what many reviewers are saying.
Just can't imagine that those reviewers are so far out of the ball park compared to you guys. I am using juice defender Beta. Not to sure if its helping or not. But at least if I not using WiFi it shuts it off automatically.
My battery used to drain badly during standby. I found that the Friend Stream service was preventing the tab from sleeping. Killed the service a while ago and battery has been fantastic since. Pushed it to 3 days with light use. About 3 hrs of browsing and facebook. My battery level is at 68%, been off power for 20h40 mins, and used for about 4hrs today - facebooking, Internet browsing. Note that no specific conditioning was performed.
What are the settings that you have on your Tablet? Auto brightness, background sync turned off ?
how did you stop friendstream, and what the heck is it, did you just kill the process and it stayed dead? (sometimes as u know u kill process but it will come back).
Good question. What is the Android software revision now. My is Android 3.2.1 (revision 2)
I acutally just uninstalled the crap-app. nothing I use anyway. It is an app for facebook, twitter and other social networks. So just get rid of it. Uninstall and be happy
my bad. I confused the HTC name and Sony name.
Social Feed Reader was misbehaving. Once started it kept running... rather than dropping off to sleep (and into Cached Apps).
Something wasn't right so I force stopped it and it stayed dead.
An additional note - the Setup, Applications, Running Applications feature isn't 100%. Some background apps aren't displaying as running or Cached. Go figure.
So any special method to stop the social feed reader?
I'm getting those kinds of numbers on mostly auto brightness (and sometimes lower, at night), with background sync turned on, WiFi sleep policy set to default, and no battery monitoring or saving apps running. The only thing I did was single initial conditioning cycle and since then its been great.
Also note that software-decoded video files will take a lot more of your battery than the equivalent properly encoded file. I havent had any trouble with Social Feed Reader, but I never even set it up and judging by the many stories around here, I would uninstall it if you're worried about battery..
asayanna said:
My battery used to drain badly during standby. I found that the Friend Stream service was preventing the tab from sleeping. Killed the service a while ago and battery has been fantastic since. Pushed it to 3 days with light use. About 3 hrs of browsing and facebook. My battery level is at 68%, been off power for 20h40 mins, and used for about 4hrs today - facebooking, Internet browsing. Note that no specific conditioning was performed.
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good to know, thanks for sharing.
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I'm getting those kinds of numbers on mostly auto brightness (and sometimes lower, at night), with background sync turned on, WiFi sleep policy set to default, and no battery monitoring or saving apps running. The only thing I did was single initial conditioning cycle and since then its been great.
Also note that software-decoded video files will take a lot more of your battery than the equivalent properly encoded file. I havent had any trouble with Social Feed Reader, but I never even set it up and judging by the many stories around here, I would uninstall it if you're worried about battery..
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Hi, that's good to know. Thanks for sharing. Unfortunately think I screwed up the initial conditioning. so I guess I will have to live with the 5 hour battery of my Tablet.
Btw how do you do battery conditioning?
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So any special method to stop the social feed reader?
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In Setup, Applications, Running Services have a look at the awake time (listed on the right side) of the running processes. You'll note that system processes (the ones with the Android icon) have been awake since last boot.... but you might finds others that are as well. I noted Social Feed Reader showing high awake time and decided to nuke it. Simply click the offending app. You'll be given the option to stop the app... which is what I did. It's an app so doesn't restart once killed. Hope that helps...
Final thought: at the top right of the screen there's a 'Show cached processes' option.
The could be an offending app in there. Kill any installed app you suspect might be a problem and see if that helps.
my battery life is excellent.
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Hello all! I have been a silent user of these forums for a while now. I am finally turning to you all for some help because I am unable to determine if the issues with my phone should be treated as related or unrelated.
My phone: Image attached, no outside URLs. In short, Galaxy S2, ATT, 4.0.3, not rooted.
I have had this phone since about March. Ironically, I had a model of the captivate that was subject to the random shut offs. ATT worked with me and since my upgrade was so close, they moved it up a bit. Badaboom this phone. Enough with the stories.
Applications: Some utilities I have on this phone include juice defender, advanced task killer, onavo data manager, eco battery protector. I do admit to the use of applications like instagram, facebook and browsing through some websites, but the effect on my phone is not necessary what I am looking to fix. Also, I use ADW, but I have been a long term user of ADW and find it to be light on my battery usage. Never even shows up in my battery summary. I just feel you should know.
The issue: My phone is being a pain in the rear. I am trying to determine if my overheating and poor battery life are related. When in idle, my phone can drain within about 5 hours. When I first started noticing this, I would make sure wifi and sync were off 'cause I really didn't need it on at work. Still, maybe saved myself 45min of battery life in idle (some screen usage to check time and w/e). Then when I charge, the phone gets so hot I start to worry. I was used to my captivate getting kind of hot, mostly because of the cheat cover, so I've stopped using it and charging with it. Right now, I mostly use a dock to charge my phone overnight, but still, when I take it off its hot as Hades.
Usage: I have noticed a significant difference with juice defender on/off, maybe about a couple hours worth of usage. Usage for me is usually gmail, texting and sometimes yahoo instant messenger. (Yahoo has been pretty light on my battery, never really noticed too much : I have noticed a significant difference with juice defender on/off, maybe about a couple hours worth of usage. Usage for me is usually gmail, texting and sometimes yahoo instant messenger. (Yahoo has been pretty light on my battery, never really noticed too much and that kind of drainage is normal). Heavy usage might include me using my phone as my GPS when driving. I do this while plugged in otherwise it would be off before I exit my hometown. The overheating gets so so so hot that I might unplug it for a bit and turn the AC on. :crying: Also, I use things like instagram, facebook, gizmodo but I make sure to kill those tasks when I am finished using the various utilities I have. I make sure I'm on wifi when I use those and I have them set to only working over wifi with onavo.
Other Issues: Recently, there have been issues with charging. I have had random moments where my phone does not register it is being plugged in until I pull the battery. At first I thought it was my car charger and maybe the fuse on it was a dud but when I got home and tried my dock, it was still nothing. Then I tried USB to my computer and still nothing. After a battery pull, this was fixed. Happened about 2 times over the past 2 months.
.. I don't know what to do to get a balance back. This has been going on for about 2 months now and I can't keep looking for a power source a mere 4 hours into usage.
I am considering looking towards rooting and seeing what customization I can do to manage my phone better and achieve a balance right for me. I am familiar with the process and proficient enough to work through it. Due to my phone feeling too new, I have been avoiding it. I would hate to shell the money out for a new battery, given this phone is less than a year old.
Please please please gurus .... I need your help. I don't know what to do to get back to having my smartphone work for me efficiently.
Well first get rid of the battery savers. In my experience they crashed my brothers phone and don't save battery in the slightest. Just remember to turn WiFi and data off using a toggle. Also download betterbatterystats from the xda forums and cpuspy from play store and let the phone do its thing for a day
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Task killers do nothing. Juice defender used to help back in GB days. No longer needed. Just use the phone normally. Also did u say yer on the stock ICS kernel? I was gonna suggest a factory reset to clear data and cache but if yer on stock ICS kernel don't do that.
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The first thing I would suggest is to get rid of the stock ICS root then custom rom ICS after that get a little app called battery calibration, fully charge the phone and calibrate the battery i have used this app and swear by it as far as juice defender i have used it and never really cared for it it really never did what is said it would.
It's amazing how much we actually use our phones in a given day, especially when we watch "videos"! Rate this thread to express how many hours of screen-on time you can get on the LG G6 before depleting the battery.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
6h 30min SOT
5h 47m SOT @ 29%
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I'm on the AT&t version and the battery life is crap. I've been lucky to get 3.5 hours of SOT. My 2 year old One M9 gets about the same battery life. I'm hoping to AT&T releases an update to improve this because everyone on T-mo talking about 6 hours of SOT with like 40% remaining.
Great sot without wifi
4 hours 3 mins sot 25% remaining . All on sprint LTE no wifi today with between 1/2 and full bars, usually full though. Insane coming from an s6 edge that would get maybe 2 hours before dying in the same conditions. Loving this phone. Very excited for kernels and ROMs to start hitting this phone
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I'm on the AT&t version and the battery life is crap. I've been lucky to get 3.5 hours of SOT. My 2 year old One M9 gets about the same battery life. I'm hoping to AT&T releases an update to improve this because everyone on T-mo talking about 6 hours of SOT with like 40% remaining.
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Have you been able to fix this? I'm also getting poor battery life.
almost 6 hours SOT?! i crack 5h even and it died as i hit that mark. Im assuming none of you guys are running the always on display? my other issue is at school service blows. I legit watched my phone bleed 12% battery in the course of one class.
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Have you been able to fix this? I'm also getting poor battery life.
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I'm happy to report that I have, mostly. I took into the att store and they ran a diagnostic check on it and told me that the quickmemo app was hitting y processor pretty hard which is strange because I have never used it (it also doesn't show up under battery usage). It can't be disabled but I forced stopped it. When I did force stop it my ram usage dropped by like 10% so I don't know what the heck that app is doing. The odd thing is it will occasionally start up again and I have no idea why. I did open the app and set the capture+ action to be handled by gallery instead of quickmemo and there are no permissions set for it, so we'll see what that does. I'll be watching it closely.
The biggest culprit I believe was my outlook app was having a contact sync issue. Once I went on the app and fixed that issue my battery life has been great. I hit my phone hard yesterday to try it out and while I only had around 4 hours of SOT when the screen wasn't on I was listening to music (probably at least 4 hours of music playback). I downloaded apps from the playstore, surfed the web, streamed some videos, took photos and lot of other heavy uses and it made it from 6am to 6pm with 10% left before i plugged in. I was pretty impressed.
So I say mostly fixed it because fixing the outlook sync issues helped a great deal, but that quickmemo app could still cause a little drain and I can't figure out how to stop it. I'll keep an eye on it and report back.
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I'm happy to report that I have, mostly. I took into the att store and they ran a diagnostic check on it and told me that the quickmemo app was hitting y processor pretty hard which is strange because I have never used it (it also doesn't show up under battery usage). It can't be disabled but I forced stopped it. When I did force stop it my ram usage dropped by like 10% so I don't know what the heck that app is doing. The odd thing is it will occasionally start up again and I have no idea why. I did open the app and set the capture+ action to be handled by gallery instead of quickmemo and there are no permissions set for it, so we'll see what that does. I'll be watching it closely.
The biggest culprit I believe was my outlook app was having a contact sync issue. Once I went on the app and fixed that issue my battery life has been great. I hit my phone hard yesterday to try it out and while I only had around 4 hours of SOT when the screen wasn't on I was listening to music (probably at least 4 hours of music playback). I downloaded apps from the playstore, surfed the web, streamed some videos, took photos and lot of other heavy uses and it made it from 6am to 6pm with 10% left before i plugged in. I was pretty impressed.
So I say mostly fixed it because fixing the outlook sync issues helped a great deal, but that quickmemo app could still cause a little drain and I can't figure out how to stop it. I'll keep an eye on it and report back.
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This is great to hear. I did what some people recommended and did a factory reset, installing all apps "by hand". And force stopping the quickmemo app saved some ram/battery as well. Battery life and stand by seem a lot better. Not great, but better. Gonna see how it fairs in a few days. If it's still bad, might get a replacement. I'm hoping for an unlocked bootloader on this so I can debloat the damn thing. That would help a great deal with battery. Thanks.
7 hours and 26 minutes so far with 48 percent remaining. Estimated time remaining is 6 hours and 11 minutes I've used it pretty heavily throughout the day and this is day one of using it on battery so I'm very very impressed.
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On a side note I recommend not using always on display there's really no need for it and it's going to waste your battery life.
After first full charge
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After first full charge
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now thats impressive
My 3rd day of use. First time actually running it down
My average is 4hrs 15 mins to 4hrs 45mins I have all beta google apps including Google play services and beta versions of facebook and Instagram.
Definitely great battery.
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What am I doing wrong here
1st full charge. Coming from a corrupted battery nexus 6p with 2hrs of sot, this phone is so much better in any case
Got mine in the mail yesterday, it was shipped with 40% juice. Had almost 3 hours of SOT on that
Let' see what my first charge will be like
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What am I doing wrong here
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The top three reasons for battery drain (with a non defective phone).
1. Screen on with full brightness.
2. Rogue application or data heavy application (email being a big one or apps that run on the background constantly).
3. Poor cell coverage area where phone is sucking up juice trying to stay connected to towers.
Best way to trouble shoot is to start with a 100% clean factory reset phone. Follow these steps
1. Reduce screen brightness as much as possible, using auto brightness helps, but you may have to adjust manually if it's at full ? in your location.
2. Don't install any applications at first. If your battery drain doesn't happen until after you install applications, then you'll need to figure out which one is the culprit.
3. Turn off the cell radio in poor coverage and see if that does anything. If your battery improves you know that's the issue. I know CDMA phones in poor coverage area suck the life out of a phone (Sprint and Verizon).
After that it's time to consider defective device.
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The top three reasons for battery drain (with a non defective phone).
1. Screen on with full brightness.
2. Rogue application or data heavy application (email being a big one or apps that run on the background constantly).
3. Poor cell coverage area where phone is sucking up juice trying to stay connected to towers.
Best way to trouble shoot is to start with a 100% clean factory reset phone. Follow these steps
1. Reduce screen brightness as much as possible, using auto brightness helps, but you may have to adjust manually if it's at full in your location.
2. Don't install any applications at first. If your battery drain doesn't happen until after you install applications, then you'll need to figure out which one is the culprit.
3. Turn off the cell radio in poor coverage and see if that does anything. If your battery improves you know that's the issue. I know CDMA phones in poor coverage area suck the life out of a phone (Sprint and Verizon).
After that it's time to consider defective device.
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Cell coverage i know is one reason while im in school. i swear that place has a jammer installed somewhere. with AOD ill watch the battery just drain itself. Im probably gonna do a factory reset today or tomorrow and see what comes of it.
Hello the battery of my Note 8 was not that Great (4:30 Hours SOT) So I found a solution to battery issues and found a great solution.
1- From Setting Turn off :
Near By Device Scanning
Find My Mobile
Smart Capture
Direct Call
Those Sensors REALLY drains the battery and minimize screen on time.
2- Lower down the resolution to FHD Its not as bad as you think. (I am not sure if this saved my battery life but try it).
3- Delete Facebook Official App (or disable it) and install this App
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.nam.fbwrapper&hl=en
4- Delete Facebook messanger and install facebook messenger (Lite)
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.facebook.mlite&hl=en
5- Disable The Edge Panel (Turn it off, The Edge panel is useful I know but it drains the battery so much and you can live without it with alternatives)
6- Go To App Permission from setting ---> Check the permissions to use location and turn off any app you do not want it to use your location.
7- Put Brightness should be just below the warning level (80%)
Now Check These steps please and Get back to me.
Before these steps on Wifi I used to get 4:30 SOT Now I get 6:15-6:30 Hours of SOT.
Note :
Turning sync and vibration saves battery too.
We left home at same time, my wife's IP7P got 80% battery remained, mine is 30%.
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Turning sync and vibration saves battery too.
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It's even more amazing how much battery one can save turning the phone completely off.
Really dont like being sarcastic, but there are a few tasks/features that disabling them makes no sense, or at least none for a samsung phone.
Sync? That's mandatory. Find my phone? I did that mistake once, now my Note 3 is in some thieves hands. Edge Panel? Sounds common sense and fair enough, but one would spare 300$ for a phone just as good, without that feature.
It's a matter of what one wants to sacrifice, i get it. What amazes me is not being happy with 5h SoT, i get max 3 in 24h battery life, and i cant bloody find the drainer.
With all my respect, this guide, or tip, is a very personalised one and wont meet the criteria of many people, no matter how effective it is.
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It's even more amazing how much battery one can save turning the phone completely off.
Really dont like being sarcastic, but there are a few tasks/features that disabling them makes no sense, or at least none for a samsung phone.
Sync? That's mandatory. Find my phone? I did that mistake once, now my Note 3 is in some thieves hands. Edge Panel? Sounds common sense and fair enough, but one would spare 300$ for a phone just as good, without that feature.
It's a matter of what one wants to sacrifice, i get it. What amazes me is not being happy with 5h SoT, i get max 3 in 24h battery life, and i cant bloody find the drainer.
With all my respect, this guide, or tip, is a very personalised one and wont meet the criteria of many people, no matter how effective it is.
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We both, I feel are more experienced users.
These tips would then be useless to you, granted.
Just some people do not even know having haptic feedback on drains the battery.
Where you think it's a general view that turning features off is useless and that you have paid for it...
I also think it's a general view that people love to save battery life, just the tips will not be for everyone. Just if you do not use it, turn it off.
Currently at 70%, QHD, idle for 16hrs with 2 hrs and 45min SOT. I average 7hrs...
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It's even more amazing how much battery one can save turning the phone completely off.
Really dont like being sarcastic, but there are a few tasks/features that disabling them makes no sense, or at least none for a samsung phone.
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LMAO!! I guess I am a little insensitive to this as well. With quick charge , wireless quickcharge and what not I have never really worried to much about the battery life. I dont find the logic in buying an almost 1000 dollar phone full of features to then turn them all off and not use them. I would save the money and just get a Moto phone or an older LG if I was that worried.
Kinda like me complaining about my MSI gaming laptop only lasting 1.4 hours while playing Doom at ultra settings.
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We both, I feel are more experienced users.
These tips would then be useless to you, granted.
Just some people do not even know having haptic feedback on drains the battery.
Where you think it's a general view that turning features off is useless and that you have paid for it...
I also think it's a general view that people love to save battery life, just the tips will not be for everyone. Just if you do not use it, turn it off.
Currently at 70%, QHD, idle for 16hrs with 2 hrs and 45min SOT. I average 7hrs...
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I completely agree with you.
Three years ago i tested a guide from a guy that recommended using a combination of Greenify, Amplify and Power Nap. I did, and somehow i always responded late to messages, and my alarm would randomly wake me up 2 hours later than it's supposed to. Yes i had like 0.5% battery usage during night, 6h screen time, 48h battery life, but the phone wasnt doing anything the moment i put it on my pocket. Did i achieve anything, not really, i just learned the lesson that i stopped my phone from doing what it was supposed to do, and somehow created an anxiety if im missing out, checking my phone every 10 minutes if there was something that is not showing up.
Although, the original poster clearly stated i'd lose that functionality. The moment we twiddle around, it's always trial and error.
Ironically, i made a thread today on the General Android section for literary the same thing.
Battery life in this device is far from what it should be. Literary no recommendation around here proved any success for me. I factory reset twice, i reset all the app permissions, and i just recently rooted to make use of Greenify and similar apps, and im not gaining anything, literary nothing. In fact, this is the first time that rooting doesnt seem feasable, all the ad-blocking software that use root, somehow are useless compared to SABS, and now i wont ever be able to use it.
Every night i sleep with a 90-95% phone, and wake up with a 80-85% respectively, AOD is usually off at that time, and no battery statistics app seems to bloody see how the hell that 10% came to happen.
Never do i have brightness over 35-40%, AoD is scheduled, BLF is schduled (technically, this should add to saving), many apps are on either Samsungs Device Maintenance in always sleep mode, and those that are on the unmonitored ones never make a 5-10% combined daily. I do have the display to max resolution, cause hey, i've bought a device that has that resolution, if i was happy with 720p, id go with a 720p phone.
To whoever gets 4h SoT with 24h battery life, LUCKY BASTARD.
PlutoDelic said:
It's even more amazing how much battery one can save turning the phone completely off.
Really dont like being sarcastic, but there are a few tasks/features that disabling them makes no sense, or at least none for a samsung phone.
Sync? That's mandatory. Find my phone? I did that mistake once, now my Note 3 is in some thieves hands. Edge Panel? Sounds common sense and fair enough, but one would spare 300$ for a phone just as good, without that feature.
It's a matter of what one wants to sacrifice, i get it. What amazes me is not being happy with 5h SoT, i get max 3 in 24h battery life, and i cant bloody find the drainer.
With all my respect, this guide, or tip, is a very personalised one and wont meet the criteria of many people, no matter how effective it is.
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In case of this subject, I wouldn't say U are sarcastic - rather a mindopen consciousness user of high-end device ?
And I won't even use my sarcasm as I do enough of that dealing with users 'here and there' (I can assure it would be even more rough). I would fully understand purpose of sharing those so called 'tips&tricks' if there was something really improving the battery life or a list of unnececcery apps/services with some usage stats as a proof (I guess no need to say how many of such Samsung put on their flagships)... But taking 4-point list is like a joke and I honestly threat this thread as such.
My tip for OP - buy a car battery and adopt it for charging ur device will improve ur battery a mile?
With the amount of complaining regarding battery life here on the threads, I think it's always welcome when users suggest tips and tricks that have helped them. There are some features that people don't use, but may not have thought to turn off. Sure, you can also go to the extreme and turn off things you actually use, but that's obviously too far. There is a balance though
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With the amount of complaining regarding battery life here on the threads, I think it's always welcome when users suggest tips and tricks that have helped them. There are some features that people don't use, but may not have thought to turn off. Sure, you can also go to the extreme and turn off things you actually use, but that's obviously too far. There is a balance though
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Idk its not that extreme. Removing facebook / messanger app and installing alternative apps is really important since we know facebook app and messanger drains battery.
And disabling the edge panels saves battery life.
I think the only extreme thing is lowering the resolution to 720p I must agree with that. I am not that sure if it saves battery life I will do some tests.
By the way the only way these settings do not matter to me because I am travelling via air port and. I am a gamer so these settings are really important to me when I am outside home.
What I would consider extreme is lowering brightness to 20 percent a lot of users do that. Through this guide Ypu can have high brightness and Good battery life.
Going through debloating procedures, i definitely get rid of Facebook itself, especially since i've read that they are even tracking users who never had a FB Account, having a system app facebook twiddling around even after you disable it is privacy worries let alone battery ones.
Fair enough, but on the other hand, i wouldn't trust a 3rd part Facebook Client either. Facebook (unfortunately) is my main social messaging access, whoever has the luxury to disable it, that's fine, but it's not a TIP.
Your guide would make perfect sense if it said "Battery tips for using the Note 8 for gaming purposes", but keep in mind that many Note 8 users have a "work environment" background.
I have 3 emails that i work daily with, two of them are very prioritized personally. I'll gladly get a tool that would limit its wakeup abilities where i would control the time frames, but anything more than that destroys my user experience.
Voytec83 said:
Sir, with all respect for OP and U, what kind of usuful 'tips&tricks' are here?? Then just please read few ROM threads and see what kind of bull**** is published without even reading an instructions on BASIC CUSTOM DEVELOPMENT USER. This thread is like a place, from where later some totally crazy issues and demands are born. There is Facebook, Instagram, Twitter and more, where this kind of show-off has it place, thx and sorry if U feel hurt :good:
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The ones included in OP... I thought that was obvious. Sharing tips isn't showing off either, it's what XDA is about: helping others. People complain about battery life ad nauseum, and then others complain when people try to suggest things to improve it. Neither is especially helpful to the community. We should be encouraging thoughtful dialogue, not discouraging it.
Cool Person said:
Idk its not that extreme. Removing facebook / messanger app and installing alternative apps is really important since we know facebook app and messanger drains battery.
And disabling the edge panels saves battery life.
I think the only extreme thing is lowering the resolution to 720p I must agree with that. I am not that sure if it saves battery life I will do some tests.
By the way the only way these settings do not matter to me because I am travelling via air port and. I am a gamer so these settings are really important to me when I am outside home.
What I would consider extreme is lowering brightness to 20 percent a lot of users do that. Through this guide Ypu can have high brightness and Good battery life.
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Re-read my post, I wasn't saying your tips were extreme at all . It was directed to those who said they were against 'crippling a $1k phone'...my point was that yes some battery saving tips can too far, but being smart and simply tweaking the things you don't need still helps and doesn't cripple anything.
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Going through debloating procedures, i definitely get rid of Facebook itself, especially since i've read that they are even tracking users who never had a FB Account, having a system app facebook twiddling around even after you disable it is privacy worries let alone battery ones.
Fair enough, but on the other hand, i wouldn't trust a 3rd part Facebook Client either. Facebook (unfortunately) is my main social messaging access, whoever has the luxury to disable it, that's fine, but it's not a TIP.
Your guide would make perfect sense if it said "Battery tips for using the Note 8 for gaming purposes", but keep in mind that many Note 8 users have a "work environment" background.
I have 3 emails that i work daily with, two of them are very prioritized personally. I'll gladly get a tool that would limit its wakeup abilities where i would control the time frames, but anything more than that destroys my user experience.
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I have tried this with QHD. 70% Brightness and its really Good.
Bear in mind this is on Wifi.
The only extreme thing is 720p admittly.
But I switched to QHD Battery is still a beast.
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The ones included in OP... I thought that was obvious. Sharing tips isn't showing off either, it's what XDA is about: helping others. People complain about battery life ad nauseum, and then others complain when people try to suggest things to improve it. Neither is very helpful to the community.
Re-read my post, I wasn't saying your tips were extreme at all . It was directed to those who said they were against 'crippling a $1k phone'...my point was that yes some battery saving tips can too far, but being smart and simply tweaking the things you don't need still helps and doesn't cripple anything.
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No prob.
I think i tweaked things up instead of using 720p I am using WQHD 70 PERCENT Brightness. I am not seeing much loss 2.30 Hours SOT at 63 percent is pretty Good.
There are a lot of useless features turned off like edge panel,direct call,near by device scanning. And installing alternative facebook apps really solved all issues.
Sry for this . But isnt this post about saving battery life. You few moaning and *****ing at each other isn't for this thread and you've all used too much of my battery......so bigger off and start your own thread...why not call it ...*****ing and moaning to waste battery power.....
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I think as mentioned previously Facebook and other online social media are the worst culprits. I don't use twitter or snapcrap, just FB.
I've just installed Metal Pro and the results frankly don't seem that much different to FB's own app. Will give it a couple of days though as yesterday may have just been getting used to it and therefore using more battery than I would normally.
Viewing all photos in your folder is slow as it seems to load just 4 at a time. I can't find a way to cache them. Images also aren't zoomable in posts.
I also can't find a way to receive message notifications. I've fed both back to the dev so maybe further changes will be available in the course of time.
FB lite is very similar to Metal....
FB really needs to provide better options for sync and what I want to see.
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Sry for this . But isnt this post about saving battery life. You few moaning and *****ing at each other isn't for this thread and you've all used too much of my battery......so bigger off and start your own thread...why not call it ...*****ing and moaning to waste battery power.....
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We are debating, that's what we're here for, some learn, some debate, that does not mean i don't acknowledge OP's efforts, just cause i don't agree with them does not make him a target, i clearly expressed that many of the tips are out of the question for most of the users.
I stood corrected in this place more than once, rather than pulling pride out, i chose to learn.
You really should sharpen up your standards about "*****ing and moaning", and maybe add some useful input we all could learn from.
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I think as mentioned previously Facebook and other online social media are the worst culprits. I don't use twitter or snapcrap, just FB.
I've just installed Metal Pro and the results frankly don't seem that much different to FB's own app. Will give it a couple of days though as yesterday may have just been getting used to it and therefore using more battery than I would normally.
Viewing all photos in your folder is slow as it seems to load just 4 at a time. I can't find a way to cache them. Images also aren't zoomable in posts.
I also can't find a way to receive message notifications. I've fed both back to the dev so maybe further changes will be available in the course of time.
FB lite is very similar to Metal....
FB really needs to provide better options for sync and what I want to see.
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Yeah i tried the Lite's too, while Messenger is ok, the FB app itself felt like opening the Facebook page from my Symbian Nokia on 2005, that's time travel right there. Some people even use FB on Browsers...
I agree who ever want to try the tips should do it, i feel that the best way to save battery is with root and uninstalling all the bloatware i dont know what the hell is wrong with this companies and fb putting it as a priv app for sure that app is a battery hog, also manipulating the kernel and customizing it to your usage helps. before i had a Huawei p10 and i would get with out any touching around 3.5 or 4 hours of SOT i use Data most of the day so its hard on it once i got it root and started to handle the kernel and the bloatware with out limiting my phone functions it went to 6.5 6 hours on mobile data and almost 7.5 hours mixed with wifi. its a shame that im one of the lucky ones with the oem issue still waiting to root this note 8. with this note 8 im getting around 5.5 hours of SOT with mobile data and two sims in it which is not bad considering it has almost the same battery as my p10 but i bigger and better screen cant imagine what ill do once i get root on it.
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I agree who ever want to try the tips should do it, i feel that the best way to save battery is with root and uninstalling all the bloatware i dont know what the hell is wrong with this companies and fb putting it as a priv app for sure that app is a battery hog, also manipulating the kernel and customizing it to your usage helps. before i had a Huawei p10 and i would get with out any touching around 3.5 or 4 hours of SOT i use Data most of the day so its hard on it once i got it root and started to handle the kernel and the bloatware with out limiting my phone functions it went to 6.5 6 hours on mobile data and almost 7.5 hours mixed with wifi. its a shame that im one of the lucky ones with the oem issue still waiting to root this note 8. with this note 8 im getting around 5.5 hours of SOT with mobile data and two sims in it which is not bad considering it has almost the same battery as my p10 but i bigger and better screen cant imagine what ill do once i get root on it.
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Oh YES! This is my heavy usage, and this is my moderate one, and i am not conservative at all in display resolution and stuff. Some people seem to get a lot better results however, but this is more then enough for me, even though i do a lot of tweaking here and there.
The biggest factory to battery life is your signal strength. If you have a ****ty carrier or you live in an area where the signal is weak you will have worse battery life then someone living in a city with a carrier like Verizon.
Also for the ultimate battery life turn your phone off at all times. Only turn it on when u need to make a call. Lasts days
When you sleep, does your phone sleep, or does it stay up all night and crunch 1s and 0s? Rate this thread to express how you deem the speed at which the OnePlus 8 Pro's battery drains under standby conditions. A higher rating indicates that when the phone is not in use, the battery drains minimally.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
Most my phone's besides my Huawei Nexus 6P have all lost 0-1% overnight.
Even with tweaking I can only manage at best 1-2% which I know compared to other users is excellent but it's definitely worse than my previous phones.
Without tweaking for stamina and good hibernation the device uses about 2-10% depending on what's installed, which wasn't any difference to previous devices (app wise)
I'm happy with it, I'll keep tweaking and see if I can hit that magic 0%
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Most my phone's besides my Huawei Nexus 6P have all lost 0-1% overnight.
Even with tweaking I can only manage at best 1-2% which I know compared to other users is excellent but it's definitely worse than my previous phones.
Without tweaking for stamina and good hibernation the device uses about 2-10% depending on what's installed, which wasn't any difference to previous devices (app wise)
I'm happy with it, I'll keep tweaking and see if I can hit that magic 0%
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Any tweaking tips? I've turned off 5G and that helped quite a bit.
Morten Becker said:
Any tweaking tips? I've turned off 5G and that helped quite a bit.
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Change 5G to 4G
Remove Facebook use web based
Remove Facebook messenger use web based
Remove Twitter use web based
Remove any ad based apps pay for the pro version
Turn off gestures like lift to wake
Change from QHD to FHD (No difference)
Allow auto brightness
Turn off WiFi overnight
Turn all updates to manual not auto (play store)
Remove any so you don't use
Change back up to once a month (WhatsApp)
Turn off location history (Google)
Use titanium to remove any system apps you don't need
Don't allow anonymous usage statistics for any app ever.
Don't allow tracking cookies on any website
Use adaway (root needed)
Don't open web pages in Google app (I use Samsung browser)
Don't use xposed.
If you game you will not get high SOT scores, period.
Don't bother with battery saving apps or monitoring apps.
Streamline your apps, if you don't use it, remove it.
Don't allow WiFi scanning (as in letting other apps use it when it's not on)
Never allow personalised ads.
Never allow notifications from websites
Always decline cookies unless your absolutely have to allow some tracking (common sense prevails here)
Optimise as many apps as possible unless it affects performance.
Don't allow apps to remain open in the notification area.
Change your launcher, my preferred launcher is lawn chair and this did actually burn up some battery when compared to the OnePlus launcher.
Don't use live widgets (yes they look cool, but they annihilate your battery)
Live wallpaper, again very cool, but battery burners.
Again! Don't charge overnight, make a note of your percentage then see what it is in the morning, you shouldn't be losing more than 5% really, if you've done well then it'll be reflected here, the good SOT results will follow.
Turn off live read outs of network speed, RAM usage in the status bar.
Turn off NFC unless in use.
Leave location on in quick settings.
Don't overcharge your phone, IE: overnight
Don't allow your phone to fully deplete the battery.
Whatever anyone says, this does 100% damage batteries, there is no argument here and I won't entertain anyone who says otherwise, Ive seen through real life tests what this results in, bloated, inefficient, possibly dangerous lithium batteries.
Keep your phone out the sun.
Keep it out of extreme cold.
Keep your device clean dust free.
Snapchat, Viber, house party, apps like that tends to use more battery as they don't have great dormancy periods.
Apps like speed test by Ookla tend to have location tracking, similarly they tend to turn themselves on and off when they feel like it, my advice, install test and uninstall.
Allow a couple of battery cycles between tweaking sets, to give you an idea of how much of a difference you've made.
Use BBS to see what is being used, once you've removed problems, remove BBS.
I've just written this from the top of my head so o probably missed some things, the general idea is to keep your device clean and fresh, remove files you don't need any more.
Keep an eye on apps that misbehave or aren't wanted, index your folders so they aren't a mess.
The more good things you do means the more potentially bad apps you can have on your phone, eg if you really need Facebook, you could keep it so long as you clean up other areas of your phone.
Good luck.
dladz said:
Change 5G to 4G
Remove Facebook use web based
Remove Facebook messenger use web based
Remove Twitter use web based
Remove any ad based apps pay for the pro version
Turn off gestures like lift to wake
Change from QHD to FHD (No difference)
Allow auto brightness
Turn off WiFi overnight
Turn all updates to manual not auto (play store)
Remove any so you don't use
Change back up to once a month (WhatsApp)
Turn off location history (Google)
Use titanium to remove any system apps you don't need
Fine allow anonymous usage statistics for any app ever.
Don't allow tracking cookies on any website
Use adaway (root needed)
Don't open web pages in Google app (I use Samsung browser)
Don't use xposed.
If you game you will not get high SOT scores, period.
Don't bother with battery saving apps or monitoring apps.
Streamline your apps, if you don't use it, remove it.
Don't allow WiFi scanning (as in letting other apps use it when it's not on)
Never allow personalised ads.
Never allow notifications from websites
Always decline cookies unless your absolutely have to allow some tracking (common sense prevails here)
Optimise as many apps as possible unless it affects performance.
Don't allow apps to remain open in the notification area.
Change your launcher, my preferred launcher is lawn chair and this did actually burn up some battery when compared to the OnePlus launcher.
Don't use live widgets (yes they look cool, but they annihilate your battery)
Live wallpaper, again very cool, but battery burners.
Again! Don't charge overnight, make a note of your percentage then see what it is in the morning, you shouldn't be losing more than 5% really, if you've done well then it'll be reflected here, the good SOT results will follow.
Turn off live read outs of network speed, RAM usage in the status bar.
Turn off NFC unless in use.
Leave location on in quick settings.
Don't overcharge your phone, IE: overnight
Don't allow your phone to fully deplete the battery.
Whatever anyone says, this does 100% damage batteries, there is no argument here and I won't entertain anyone who says otherwise, Ive seen through real life tests what this results in, bloated, inefficient, possibly dangerous lithium batteries.
Keep your phone out the sun.
Keep it out of extreme cold.
Keep your device clean dust free.
Snapchat, Viber, house party, apps like that tends to use more battery as they don't have great dormancy periods.
Apps like speed test by Ookla tend to have location tracking, similarly they tend to turn themselves on and off when they feel like it, my advice, install test and uninstall.
Allow a couple of battery cycles between tweaking sets, to give you an idea of how much of a difference you've made.
Use BBS to see what is being used, once you've removed problems, remove BBS.
I've just written this from the top of my head so o probably missed some things, the general idea is to keep your device clean and fresh, remove files you don't need any more.
Keep an eye on apps that misbehave or aren't wanted, index your folders so they aren't a mess.
The more good things you do means the more potentially bad apps you can have on your phone, eg if you really need Facebook, you could keep it so long as you clean up other areas of your phone.
Good luck.
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Nice tips
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Nice tips
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Thank you sir.
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Thank you sir.
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Great game earlier vs Leeds, very entertaining, they gave you a good game
bodomfan said:
Great game earlier vs Leeds, very entertaining, they gave you a good game
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Was crapping myself, last trying we need is to start getting beat by them.. we were off form.
dladz said:
Was sh*tting myself, last trying we need is to start getting beat by them.. we were off form.
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Cracking game though, I find android 11 open beta 1 charges really slow on a normal charger that's my only gripe with it, but battery is wow
I have a great screen on % ~13%h.
But standby sucks.
I also have removed/disabled stock apps, location of, only enable it when I use it, same with Bluetooth. But I still have 1-3% standby /h. Over night I loose 2-5 % and the same again right after I wake up and use it..
My standby time was so bad 3-4%h, that I rooted it and change doze with an app.
3% h over an day (12h) makes up 36% battery uses. Just laying in your pocket and doing nothing... That would be ~3h screen time.
Still can not get the standby time to 1% what it actually should be!
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I have a great screen on % ~13%h.
But standby sucks.
I also have removed/disabled stock apps, location of, only enable it when I use it, same with Bluetooth. But I still have 1-3% standby /h. Over night I loose 2-5 % and the same again right after I wake up and use it..
My standby time was so bad 3-4%h, that I rooted it and change doze with an app.
3% h over an day (12h) makes up 36% battery uses. Just laying in your pocket and doing nothing... That would be ~3h screen time.
Still can not get the standby time to 1% what it actually should be!
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I'd look in alarms / wakelocks for the cause of your battery drain.
I have more like 0,7% / hr standby, 1,5-2% over night.
Uninstalling Facebook and Messenger would probably take me to 0,5 / hr and 1,5% overnight. This app is a f**** disaster, but unfortunately it's required in my company (Fb groups).
JonnyJaap said:
I have a great screen on % ~13%h.
But standby sucks.
I also have removed/disabled stock apps, location of, only enable it when I use it, same with Bluetooth. But I still have 1-3% standby /h. Over night I loose 2-5 % and the same again right after I wake up and use it..
My standby time was so bad 3-4%h, that I rooted it and change doze with an app.
3% h over an day (12h) makes up 36% battery uses. Just laying in your pocket and doing nothing... That would be ~3h screen time.
Still can not get the standby time to 1% what it actually should be!
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Wake gestures, like lift to wake.. Keeps the phone from sleeping..
Also don't worry about location, maintaining a location is now efficient than obtaining it for all apps in one hit.
I've never turned location off besides for Google, I pause location history, far too creepy.
I have no facebook, instagram or messenger, the only social apps I have are telegram and snapchat.
I use betterbatterystats but there is just no app that keeps the phone awak all the time. I have no f*** idea why it sucks so hard.
It's super annoying.
Android 11, drain is worse, SOT is worse and I've changed nothing compared to android 10.
Disappointing to say the least.
dladz said:
Android 11, drain is worse, SOT is worse and I've changed nothing compared to android 10.
Disappointing to say the least.
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Agree
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Agree
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How's yours now?
I've just sent through all my apps and optimized all the ones I don't need running at full chat, also deleted some apps that may have been causing issues.
At the moment it's looking ok
3 hours up
1 hours SOT
92%
That's heading for 10 hours if I'm not mistaken, so may have been one of my apps or poor optimization on the phones part..
I'll keep an eye on it, have Gsam running as BBS simply wouldn't accept I'd granted app_ops permission?
Maybe an android 11 thing.
dladz said:
3 hours up
1 hours SOT
92%
That's heading for 10 hours if I'm not mistaken, so may have been one of my apps or poor optimization on the phones part..
I'll keep an eye on it, have Gsam running as BBS simply wouldn't accept I'd granted app_ops permission?
Maybe an android 11 thing.
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This is ok...
Not bad at all..
Is it on 120hz/ qhd?
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This is ok...
Not bad at all..
Is it on 120hz/ qhd?
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It's 120hz FHD. I honestly can't see much of a difference between QHD and FHD so taking a battery hit doesn't seem worth it.
I'm currently heading for 12 hours here. Have just been using XDA and watching some videos. No gaming today, WhatsApp and telegram.
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I'm running blu-spark. Never used it before but it's idle performance is brilliant.
Very impressed. Also extremely low clocks 300mhz
Great tips from many members. My phone drains very minimally while standby.