I had a quick look but i couldnt find these ones on the site. As most of you know a spare battery (or 7) is a must with the TP2. But im a noob and im not sure what the difference is with these with the mAh ratings. Is there much difference between 13050mAh and 1500mAh batteries? which will be better?
Heres the 1500mAh battery
Here is the 1350mAh battery
Thanks
Personally, I wouldn't get a replacement battery from HK, and not over Ebay either - I've used one source for two-way radio kit over there for a while, and while the Li-Po and Li-Io batteries do work, they appear to have a limited life span in comparison with OEM equipment available over here.
I'd think about long-term savings, and get something from Clove (linkage here), who at least can be held accountable to the "fit for use" elements of the Sale Of Goods Act 1964 over here, unlike HK sources via ebay. Don't get me wrong - ebay's a great source of bargain kit, but for something as essential and spec-critical as a PDA/Phone battery, I'd go home-grown retail sources every time, purely for the legal protection.
In any case, I'm getting a PowerMonkey from Maplin today. Much more versatile for me
My spare batteries have always been HK cheapo's and never a problem with them before. If that one you showed me was half the price it is then id have got it.
1600 mAh battery from the uk?
Is this really genuine?
SMF_12 - I opted for the powerMonkey for a number of reasons.
It's small enough to lug around in a pocket or belt pouch.
It carries potentially two full TP2 charges from a single full charge
It's got a long shelf life on a single charge
It's got adaptors in the box for most of the portable devices you might already own that take a 4.5-5.5 vDC charge
If by chance your connecter isn't there, they suply additional ones at a very reasonable cost
It'll charge my TP2 and my other half's Razr (that's the motorola phone, not the ladyshave ) too
Oh, did I mention it's rechargeable off anything with a USB port, and can take a charge off any mains power socket on the globe (travel plugs come as standard).
I'm rather impressed with it
However, if all you want is the spare battery, then by all means, go for that instead
As to the "is this genuine"... he's in the UK, subject to the Sale of Goods Act and the Trade Descriptions Act. If he's telling fibs, he can be held accountable. Hope that helps
Have fun
UPDATE: Hold fire on the PowerMoneky, folks. There's a glitch. While the supplied USB charging cable works with the miniUSB adaptor tip to charge the TP2, the PowerMoneky itself does not - say again not - appear to be charging the TP2. Only found this out last night - I've been using the USB adaptor cable and tip up to now.
A trouble ticket email has been sent to them, asking for any information regarding this, and hopefully a fix as well.
You can imagine how damned annoyed - and embarrassed - I am at this point in time.
Update - very rapid response from PowerTraveller tech support - seems that they believe I need a "DOPOD" adaptor tip, and requested my snail mail address so that they could send me one - still doesn't explain how the miniUSB tip works when I'm using it in the car from the cigar lighter -> USB adaptor, but there y'go. Soon as the DOPOD tip arrives, I'll test it out, and update you all
Thanks for that, i took a look at it in maplins today but i think ill stick to a second battery. but im sure people will be happy to read your review on the product so keep us updated on this product
Will do
OK, DOPOD adaotor tip arrived today.
Result: FAIL.
The text of the follow-up note to PowerTraveller Customer Services, sent this evening, is reproduced below, less the name of the Customer Services agent there.
Thanks for the DOPOD adaptor tip, which arrived today.
Unfortunately, it does not appear to solve the problem.
I connected the tip to the PowerMonkey Classic lead, and then plugged it into the ExtUSB connector socket on the HTC Touch Pro 2. I then moved the switch on the PowerMonkey Classic to "on". Again, the green light on the PowerMonkey Classic started to flash, but there was no noticable difference from using the normal USB adaptor tip; i.e., there was no amber charging light illuminated on the Touch Pro 2, and no charging icon was to be seen on the screen. I have to assume that there was therefore no charging current making it to my HTC Touch Pro 2.
The entire point of purchasing the PowerMonkey Classic was the be able to recharge my HTC Touch Pro 2 when I was away from other power sources, such as my home, my car, and other USB sources such as notebook PCs, when out and about conducting, for example, GPS-related activities, which are heavy on battery consumption. The advertising that I saw led me to believe that the PowerMonkey Classic *would* be the solution to my problem. Sadly, however, despite your attempt with the DOPOD adaptor tip, this does NOT appear to be the case, and I am VERY disappointed, as you can imagine.
It is remotely possible that your engineers have missed that on the Touch Pro 2, the connector on the bottom of the unit is NOT a standard USB connector, but HTCs proprietary ExtUSB format (which combines power, audio, and data feeds in one socket/plug format)?
Could you possibly check with the engineers, and ascertain if they have actually physically *tested* the DOPOD with the HTC Touch Pro 2, and, if so, how they managed to get the darn thing to accept charging current from the PowerMonkey Classic?
As it stands now, failing a working solution from your selves, I am the poud owner of the thirty quid high-tech paperweight, that is of zero use to me. I am due to see my partner (who lives 70-odd miles from me) soon, and we will test at that time whether the device works in charging a Motorola Razr.
If it does, then, short a working solution for my Touch Pro 2 being forthcoming from your company, I will give my partner the device. At least then, someone will profit from using the device. I however, will be back to square one, searching for an on-foot recharging solution for my phone.
Finaly, I would remind you that all the above fails to explain why I can get a ten quid self-reeling cigar lighter adaptor unit in my car, using what appears to be a standard USB connector, to successfully charge my Touch Pro 2. Naturally, I would be VERY interested in knowing why this succeeds, where the PowerMonkey Classic fails.
Sincerely,
Roger Stenning
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As you can imagine, I am far from amused at this entire sorry bloody saga.
As always, I'll keep you all updated, should there be anything to report.
EDIT:
Almost forgot - confirmation USB source test result:
Almost forgot. I checked to see if the DOPOD tip worked with a purely USB-derived power source, so plugged the supplied self-reeling PowerMonkey adaptor cable into the tip, then into my computers' USB port, and connected the tip to the Touch pro 2. Surprise surprise, the amber light on the phone illuminated, and charging current was flowing into the Touch Pro 2.
The problem is therefore sqarely defined as being with the PowerMonkey itself, and NOT the adaptor tip.
Casting back to my original note, I have to assume that the PowerMonkey is NOT delivering a powerful enough charge, at 4.5 VDC, where USB specs clearly require 5 VDC. There is therefore a deficit of 0.5 VDC from the PowerMonkey Classic.
I will still check to see if this is successful in charging a Motorola RAZR or not, and will report back to you at that time.
Sincerely,
Roger Stenning
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I've never had problems with HK batteries either, but hasn't this thread been done a few times already?
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1600 mAh battery from the uk?
Is this really genuine?
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Hope so, I've just ordered
Update time.
PowerTraveller, manufacture of the Power Monkey Classic v1, have sent me a returns form in the email, and have told me that once I've returned it, they'll send a replacement after testing.
Looks like the postage is down to me, though
Roger, if it's any consolation, I've had to do the merry dance that you appear to be doing right now. I bought a v1 just over six months ago and went through the exact process you have described. Just the other day, I received a replacement unit that I'm testing now. My problem was that when my phone was 'next to' empty, I'd plug in the v1 and it would charge to about 50% before itself becoming empty. I know the v1 was full because I had charged it for hours and the LED was green. "Two fulls charges"? Pfffft.
I also got the load of old cobblers from Powermonkey about the USB tips too. How I should use a DOPOD tip instead of a USB one. When I questioned 'why?' I received a half mumbled reply about the tips being internally wired differently. The one that they promised to mail me never arrived so I bought one from the website, being only like £3. Did it make a difference? No.
I don't know how this replacement's going to work out but I have my doubts. Before buying the v1, I bought two other Powertraveller products, the Powerchimp device that runs off two rechargeable AA batteries. I gave up on both of them within a week because even with two fully charged AAs, it seemed to charge my phone for about 30 minutes before being in an empty state and when I looked at my phone (TytnII) it had maybe gained 10% charge. OK if you want to make say one emergency phonecall but useless if you need the equivelent of a fully charged spare battery (or two!!!).
I'm going to monitor how it works out and see if this replacement works and provides at least a full charge and a half. If it doesn't, well, although it'll work on some level, it just doesn't do what it's advertised to do which is very naughty (especially when you see them laud their product all over the internet/Twitter etc as the most amzing thing since bread that has been sliced
One day guys, once day I hope the world will see a truly reliable and consistant portable power supply. Maybe in a thousand years, even a reliable solar powered products?
hiya - thanks for the heads up. It's be damned nice to see a curcuit diagram of the thing, along with a specific list of components. They try that mumbling stuff with me, they may bite themselves somewhere embarrassing - I'm also a licenced Radio ham in the UK (G1LIW), and as some of you might know, we have to pass tests in the technical aspects of the radio hobby - which includes electronics
I'm damned if I know what the preventative difference between a DOPOD and a miniUSB tip, either, by the way, given that the ExtUSB used by HTC only adds maybe 7 contacts to the format while avoiding existing MiniUSB pin locations...
MiniUSB layout...
http://pinouts.ru/Slots/USB_pinout.shtml
ExtUSB layout...
http://pinouts.ru/PDA/htc_extusb_headset_pinout.shtml
The two are not, of course, interchangeable - while MiniUSB plugs will fit into ExtUSB sockets, the reverse is not true.
Anyhow, we will see.
Thanks again for the heads up
Quick test result update.
I let my TytnII (battery, 1350mAh?) drop to 30% battery and then plugged in my fully charged P M Classic. It charged back to 100% and the charge LED was still flashing green. I then plugged in my half empty old Motorola V3, it charged it for approx 30 minutes before flashing red and eventually stopping. 2200mAh!?!? capacity? I bet I didn't consume any more than about a 1000mAh and it was empty.
OK, it's new so this might go up a bit but it really doesn't bode well. OK, so maybe I'll get one full charge out of it but it's advertised as 2200 my phone is 1350, surely it should be up towards about two charges?
Bottom line is, it works but nowhere near as well as it's advertised to do.
OK, received the replacement PM (it's a version 2, not a version 1) in the mail today. They included another DOPOD adaptor tip, too. Guess they figured I'm a clumsy schmuk who may have lost the one they sent me the other week (nope, still got it)
Anyhow, Turning it on results in rapid green LED blinking, meaning they fully charged it before sending it to me. Which was nice of them
However, and interestingly, plugging in a charger to it does NOT result in any LED illuminating. Odd. have to follow that up later.
I'll let you all know how it behaves in charging my phone once I use it "in anger".
Be interested to see what you make of it's charge capacity...
Cured the inability to charge the PowerMonkey problem - it was a rather embarrassing user error - the plug wasn't correctly seated in the mains socket
Gonna let the phone drain a bit while I'm on holiday this week, and use the PM to charge it. It's a PMv2, not a PMv1, that they sent as a replacement, remember, so we will see if the thing behaves any better than your v1
Later
After a month or so of tests, I can say my version 2 is 'better' but it still doesn't delivery the one and a half charges it's supposed to. On average, I'd say it fully charges my TYTN2 once and is then empty.
I really can't be bothered to stress about it any more because I guess, one full charge is better than nothing but I think I'm justified in being a little irked that it doesn't do what it's advertised to do?
Conclusion: It works, it'll charge your phone to full from empty and is an alternative to buying a spare battery for your phone. It'll also charge everyone elses phone with the right adapter!
I searched and searched and can find no real reviews. Lots of people here have posted links to various cradles for the TP2, but nobody who has bought them has offered hard reviews of their purchases.
I use my phones data connection to surf from my PC and wanted a cradle that would charge while synced. I bought this one in August of '09.
amazon.com/gp/product/B002FEPP3G/ref=oss_product
It's terrible. It always complains that the charge is not enough for consumption and the battery will drain. And recently it has stopped connecting to the PC at all. Windows will report that there was a problem with the USB device. Syncs fine with just the data cable direct to phone, but of course no charging that way.
Anyway, time to get a new cradle. Not really concerned with charging a second battery, but it would be nice. So what has been decided to be the best cradle for the TP2 (with the USB connection in the center of the phone, not the offset version)?
Thanks in advance.
Dan
Still looking. I guess I have determined that the one I have is the GSM Touch Pro2. Lots of sync cradles on Amazon, but none that have more than about two reviews, usually complaining because they didn't pay attention to the placement of the USB port.
I suppose if no one has really looked into these that much I might have to just embark on that journey. I'll just start buying the various models and post my findings.
Still open to any opinions others have formed about various cradles though.
I got my cradle from eBay. Here is the link, http://cgi.ebay.com/New-USB-Sync-Cr...wItemQQptZPDA_Accessories?hash=item2eab91cae4. It works and the seller was good. My only issue with it is it is difficult to get the TP2 into the receiving USB plug. I have to move it side to side until I get it to match up. Other than that it works fine.
kimtyson said:
It works and the seller was good. My only issue with it is it is difficult to get the TP2 into the receiving USB plug. I have to move it side to side until I get it to match up. Other than that it works fine.
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What all have you done with it? Do you share the internet connection from the phone with a PC through the cradle? Does it get sufficient power to charge the battery(or at least keep it from draining) while using the shared internet through the cradle?
personally i now use this type of cradle as it is Universal i won't need to get a new one everytime i change my phone...which is about twice a year!
but this stand/cradle has worked for me well especially as i just use a normal sync cable which also means i can pick up the phone to answer it etc without having to unplug it..works for me.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=594722
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I got my cradle from eBay. Here is the link, http://cgi.ebay.com/New-USB-Sync-Cr...wItemQQptZPDA_Accessories?hash=item2eab91cae4. It works and the seller was good. My only issue with it is it is difficult to get the TP2 into the receiving USB plug. I have to move it side to side until I get it to match up. Other than that it works fine.
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I bought this same cradle, but am not happy with it at all. If I leave the AC and USB plugs connected when I turn off my computer, it charges the extra battery, but current flows back into the computer and keeps the fans and lights powered. The first time it happened, it had even sucked 70% of my battery overnight! If I leave only the USB cable connected, the phone naturally doesn't charge overnight and the extra battery doesn't charge either.
I had a cradle for my TouchPro that worked properly. The AC would charge my battery when the computer was turned off, but it didn't send juice back into my computer through the USB cable. I assume it had a diode in the circuit to prevent that.
Does anyone know of a cradle that works as I want (and as it should)?
Hello
I ordered my Prime from the UK (I live in Denmark) as it's cheaper there, and I was able to get it straight away, while I'd have to wait till mid-end April to get it in Denmark.
But I have 1 issue now, the charger is made for UK sockets.
I've tried finding adapters, but I can't find one to converter UK -> Danish anywhere, only the other way around (Which I can't use).
I've tried going to basically all the local electronic stores, and none of them have a universal charger that outputs 15V/1.2A which the Prime needs.
All they have are laptop chargers (which are a bit higher volts and far higher amps), and phone chargers (which are much lower, normally 5V)
I've found this on the official ASUS website:
http://www.asus.com/Peripherals_Accessories/Eee_Pad_Accessories/Eee_Pad_10W18W_Adapter/
But I can't find any info on buying/acquiring them.
Could anyone help me out here?
I'm sitting with my Prime next to me, without any possible way to charge it.
This is worse than torture
- Moon
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Hello
I ordered my Prime from the UK (I live in Denmark) as it's cheaper there, and I was able to get it straight away, while I'd have to wait till mid-end April to get it in Denmark.
But I have 1 issue now, the charger is made for UK sockets.
I've tried finding adapters, but I can't find one to converter UK -> Danish anywhere, only the other way around (Which I can't use).
I've tried going to basically all the local electronic stores, and none of them have a universal charger that outputs 15V/1.2A which the Prime needs.
All they have are laptop chargers (which are a bit higher volts and far higher amps), and phone chargers (which are much lower, normally 5V)
I've found this on the official ASUS website:
http://www.asus.com/Peripherals_Accessories/Eee_Pad_Accessories/Eee_Pad_10W18W_Adapter/
But I can't find any info on buying/acquiring them.
Could anyone help me out here?
I'm sitting with my Prime next to me, without any possible way to charge it.
This is worse than torture
- Moon
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If I read your post right then what you need is a plug converter that can enable a UK plug to be plugged into a Danish socket.
I have no idea what sort of plugs you use in Denmark (did not look to closely at teh plugs when forbrydleson was on but will look tonight as we now have those who kill !! lol)
If you can post a link of what a danish plug looks like and are willing to paypal the cost of a UK to danish converter which we should be able to get pretty easily here I am more than willing to get one and send it to you by airmail
Would something like this be suitable?
You do not need to worry about voltages as the Asus power box automatically adjusts to the voltage of the supply and the only differences are the actual plug pins which are on a plate and connect on to the transformer.
If this is helpful message me though you can buy direct of amazon UK as they deliver to denmark, but I would try and make sure that you order one direct from Amazon rather than from their marketplace.
Though I am sure that there must be Danish online sellers that will be able to supply what you need. or amazon DE
The prime will charge via teh usb cable supplied with it, albeit very slowly and it will not register as charging (it might be better on a usb3 port if you have one)
On further checking I think this one would suit you perfectly.
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If I read your post right then what you need is a plug converter that can enable a UK plug to be plugged into a Danish socket.
I have no idea what sort of plugs you use in Denmark (did not look to closely at teh plugs when forbrydleson was on but will look tonight as we now have those who kill !! lol)
If you can post a link of what a danish plug looks like and are willing to paypal the cost of a UK to danish converter which we should be able to get pretty easily here I am more than willing to get one and send it to you by airmail
Would something like this be suitable?
You do not need to worry about voltages as the Asus power box automatically adjusts to the voltage of the supply and the only differences are the actual plug pins which are on a plate and connect on to the transformer.
If this is helpful message me though you can buy direct of amazon UK as they deliver to denmark, but I would try and make sure that you order one direct from Amazon rather than from their marketplace.
Though I am sure that there must be Danish online sellers that will be able to supply what you need. or amazon DE
The prime will charge via teh usb cable supplied with it, albeit very slowly and it will not register as charging (it might be better on a usb3 port if you have one)
On further checking I think this one would suit you perfectly.
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Both of the ones you linked seems fine to me (any difference between them? I can't find any, but you never know )
I've tried finding them on Danish online webshops, but couldn't seem to find any UK -> Danish plug converter, only the other way around :/
Perhaps I didn't use the correct search words or something.. Hmm. I'll try looking into it some more and spend some time searching for it
When you say that the Prime will charge through USB, do you mean from the computer to the prime, or from another USB charger (using the USB charger that came with the Prime) ?
I've got a HTC USB charger (from my Evo 3D) that is 5V/1A, would that also charge the Prime (as you said, though without showing that it is charging, and doing it slowly?)
whan I was talking about charging from usb I was meaning from pc but it will be very slow.
If I was you I would order an adapter for the short term so I could get teh TFP up and running.
I found this http://www.amazon.de/STECKER-REISEA...2?s=aps&ie=UTF8&qid=1333103058&sr=1-2-catcorr amazon de which should work.
The second link I posted in my reply to you is dispatched by amazon which is why I thought that it might arrive a bit quicker!!
You could then contact asus support and see if they can provide a european faceplate for the charger that you already have or buy a complete unit from asus de here which will have a uk front plate as well if you ever visit us in blighty.
Hope this helps
Andy
FYI, international airports are often a good place to pick up the kind of travel adaptor you need. I know that in both London Heathrow & Gatwick airports, you can up adaptors to convert US/EU plugs to UK in the shops and vending machines around the airport.
YMMV of course!
Regards,
Dave
Thanks for the help, I finally managed to find one on a Danish webshop, and ordered it Should be here within a day or two
And then I can start playing with my Prime
@ slef2003
I tried leaving my Prime plugged into my computer for 12 hours straight (with the PC running, tablet turned off) while I was at work, to see if I could charge it up a bit. And when I came back, it hadn't charged a single percentage.
Does the Prime have to be turned on meanwhile for it to charge?
Because if so, it kind of destroys the entire idea, because if it charges so slowly, it'll drain more battery than it charges while in standby?
- Moon
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