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Hi - So I slowly figured out that we can not unlock the bootloader and root these Verizon phones. Any recommendations on how to detox/debloat this phone without root?
Edit: Looks like upgrading to Nougat makes it even more difficult to debloat.
Disable and remove permissions worked for me.
blahdc said:
Hi - So I slowly figured out that we can not unlock the bootloader and root these Verizon phones. Any recommendations on how to detox/debloat this phone without root?
Edit: Looks like upgrading to Nougat makes it even more difficult to debloat.
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Go to settings/Apps/Tap 3dots upper right hand corner/ Tap show system/ from there you can disable pretty much everything debloater does with a few exceptions.
Use care though there are a couple things that will lag your phone especially Disabling (print spooler).
Also if you want wifi calling to work don't disable Verizon Login .
Xtended settings app is now available for samsung touchwiz oreo roms which overcomes reading shared prefs from android server system hooks (`android` package). Oreo update for beta users only. Anyone can opt in.
App is already avail for kitkat, lollipop, marshmallow and nougat htc and samsung devices. Samsung from marshmallow on.
Search in google play for app as really cant be bothered to create a graphical thread
Note ... designed for STOCK roms without rom developers own individual tweaks as it clashes in cases. I hope this is a common sense statement.
Also a little treat for United Kingdom H3G users, tethering mod allows 3 not to detect if your hotspotting (Tethering). If you have unlimited data plan, see your hotspot allowance stay untouched
Play Store link ...
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=richmondouk.xtended.settings&hl=en_GB
Beta test opt in link ...
https://play.google.com/apps/testing/richmondouk.xtended.settings
Very happy to see your return @RichmondoUK.
Thank you so much for all the effort you've put into this gem over the years.
Looking forward to if/when this might become Oreo compatible as well.
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Well it is oreo ready, just for Samsung s8 users. When htc10 gets oreo i will sort that out. im not supporting any more htc devices later than m10 as they are ... well rubbish
App will prob work when that happens as had minimal changes to do
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Well it is oreo ready, just for Samsung s8 users. When htc10 gets oreo i will sort that out. im not supporting any more htc devices later than m10 as they are ... well rubbish
App will prob work when that happens as had minimal changes to do
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Good:
Oreo for the 10 HAS arrived for WWE, US Unlocked, Taiwan, Hong Kong, and possibly more...
Sent from my HTC6545LVW using Tapatalk
I got everything flashed and ready to use, passes Magisk and Xposed Installer says it's all good. When I open the app it hangs up on gaining root access. Anything known about this?
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treetolber said:
I got everything flashed and ready to use, passes Magisk and Xposed Installer says it's all good. When I open the app it hangs up on gaining root access. Anything known about this?
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**UPDATE**
Never mind. It's all good now.
my device is flying in sky
Thank you so much.
Good module.
Can you please make transition animation random?
I'm trying to get this module to work on LG V30 (US998) with stock rom (7.1.2), bootloader unlocked, magisk root. Installs fine, but when I enable the power button flashlight I get System UI crash. Any ideas?
I really wish this was able to be used by my device. I have Xposed Framework and am rooted. However I tried three times to install and use this app , even doing what I was supposed to do by activating and rebooting my device. After all this, your app makes it so when the phone reboots my UI is black and phone is basically a brick without the actual bricking. I tried to use xposed module deactivator to deactivate your app to no avail. Luckily I was able to flash the Xposed uninstaller zip in order to reboot my phone with no black UI issue or disfunction. Unfortunately I also have to completely wipe Xposed cache and data and reinstall Xposed Framework in order to to continue using Xposed and the modules that are WORKING PROPERLY. I read the description of tour app on the google play store and it was supposed to be compatible with my devices ROM and everything the sun. But yeah, your app does more harm than the good it was suppose to do. I really hope that I am the only user out there who has had to give a bad review. I didn't give the review on the play store, what you are reading right now is the review. I am glad that your app can be used by others and it's been helpful for them as I read in the reviews.
Hello RichmondoUK,
Xtended Settings doesn't work with HTC one M9+ with ChinaSense 7.5.2... It was okay before wih standard Europe Ruu Sense 7.0, but I change to stock China rom because it is more secure and fast in any possible way...
I'm asking you here is it any way to fix this issue ? --The problem is that it's install but cannot open the app. Gives error message..
Any help ?
Cheers!
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The opt-in link no longer works and upon the startup of the app it just asks for google login over and over, you'll chose which google account you want to use and it looks like it wants to let you onto the app, then it loops over and over
I have a US998 v30s on Verizon with the stock Oreo 8.0 rom. A peculiarity is that no notification appears on the status bar after a voice message is received. What happens instead is that a text message is sent to the phone. The text message is "coded" and not intended to be read by humans. Nonetheless, it isn't hard to spot the caller id of the person who left the voice message within the text. Another text message is sent to the phone upon emptying the voice mail box. My suspicion is that these messages should turn on or off the voice message status bar notification. Is anyone familar with this behavior and how do I get the notifcations to work properly.
Thanks in advance for any assistance and apologies if this is asked an answered in another forum,
cmrntnnr
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I have a US998 v30s on Verizon with the stock Oreo 8.0 rom. A peculiarity is that no notification appears on the status bar after a voice message is received. What happens instead is that a text message is sent to the phone. The text message is "coded" and not intended to be read by humans. Nonetheless, it isn't hard to spot the caller id of the person who left the voice message within the text. Another text message is sent to the phone upon emptying the voice mail box. My suspicion is that these messages should turn on or off the voice message status bar notification. Is anyone familar with this behavior and how do I get the notifcations to work properly.
Thanks in advance for any assistance and apologies if this is asked an answered in another forum,
cmrntnnr
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Yup. This is one of the issues with using non-Verizon phones on Verizon.
VZW won't let you install the proprietary Verizon apk.
I'm hoping someone figures it out soon.
I like having an unlocked bootloader on Verizon.
Had this problem too. I just started using Google Voice as my voicemail service instead. Works for me :good:
It might yet be possible to get it working though I agree switching to google voice would be sesnible and easier, too. The reason for thinking so is that I have a droid turbo with resurrection remix as a backup phone. It has no verizon software, and the vms notifications work fine. Perhaps someone with one of @SGCMarkus roms on verizon can comment? If not, I'll give it a go eventually.
I think it is more likely related to just visual voicemail and not voicemail in general. I have us998 and use an MVNO whose repackaged service is Verizon. I have no issues with just voicemail, but when they tried enabling visual voicemail on my account, I started to get the weird texts. As soon as visual voicemail was disabled the texts went away and the standard voicemail notification started working again.
Visual VoiceMail or Advanced VoiceMail as its called in Verizon's business control panel is the cause. If you switch your service to Basic VoiceMail you wont get those anymore. Although I have to agree with everyone here that switching to Google Voice for Voicemail was the best option. After you sign up for Google Voice, google around for the special forwarding codes to use. Thier were two if memory serves, special numbers you can dial on your cell phone and then provide your Google Voice number. This makes all unanswered or denied calls go to your Google Voice number directly which will then take a message. Google Voice honestly does a much better job than Visual VoiceMail, even offering voicemail-to-text for free.
Took the plunge and installed @SGCMarkus' DotOS rom. The voice message indicator is now working. The issue seems to be in the software of the open market v30.
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Took the plunge and installed @SGCMarkus' DotOS rom. The voice message indicator is now working. The issue seems to be in the software of the open market v30.
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Really? So Visual Voicemail works properly on AOSP!?
Did you also install Stark's camera mod? Does it have all of the functionality of the stock camera?
Thanks for the feedback!
It seems so, but I confess to not fully understand some of the Verizon nomenclature. Perhaps this helps get the correct conclusion. My service is basic, I dial *86 to get to voice messages, and I don't have any verizon software. The tape notification flips on and off properly with DotOS. The notification doesn't work with the stock lg software. I get a clunky text messages instead like described above.
I haven't tried Stark's camera but plan to soon.
Other lg apps like HD audio recorder and FM radio install but force close.
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It seems so, but I confess to not fully understand some of the Verizon nomenclature. Perhaps this helps get the correct conclusion. My service is basic, I dial *86 to get to voice messages, and I don't have any verizon software. The tape notification flips on and off properly with DotOS. The notification doesn't work with the stock lg software. I get a clunky text messages instead like described above.
I haven't tried Stark's camera but plan to soon.
Other lg apps like HD audio recorder and FM radio install but force close.
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Ahh. Visual Voicemail is the service/app that you use to access and listen to voicemails through the app on the screen. It sounds very different than what you are suggesting works (message notification). I am holding out on stock in hopes that someone will eventually get it to work.
Thanks for the feedback, though.
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Yup. This is one of the issues with using non-Verizon phones on Verizon.
VZW won't let you install the proprietary Verizon apk.
I'm hoping someone figures it out soon.
I like having an unlocked bootloader on Verizon.
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I just flashed the vs996 kdz. Left out the boot and recovery, visual VM is working! Wifi calling too!
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I just flashed the vs996 kdz. Left out the boot and recovery, visual VM is working! Wifi calling too!
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That is great news! I'll be trying that tonight.
Did you have to flash the 2 other files too?
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That is great news! I'll be trying that tonight.
Did you have to flash the 2 other files too?
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I loaded the kdz in lgup, used parttion upgrade, unchecked boot, and recovery....I did NOT reflash noencrypt or lgrootchecker, or magisk. It booted, still have root.
My service is better too. I already had the modem flashed, so there must be something with the actual 996 fw. I'm quite happy now.
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I loaded the kdz in lgup, used parttion upgrade, unchecked boot, and recovery....I did NOT reflash noencrypt or lgrootchecker, or magisk. It booted, still have root.
My service is better too. I already had the modem flashed, so there must be something with the actual 996 fw. I'm quite happy now.
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It is working, but I am getting some force closes and it can't read my sdcard.
EDIT: SD card corrupt. Tap to repair.
Format of SD card in phone fails. TWRP can't read it either. Bummer.
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It is working, but I am getting some force closes and it can't read my sdcard.
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I have no force closes. I will pop an SD card in and check.
Edit....no issues with SD card either. Not sure why your having issues. Maybe try wiping data?
Anyone using a converted ls to us on Verizon NEEDS to do this! My service is back strong and better than ever.
Can I load the vzw kdz on my open market us998?
From what I'm reading, it sounds like I can. I of course feel more comfortable when I can get others to confirm.
Thanks
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Can I load the vzw kdz on my open market us998?
From what I'm reading, it sounds like I can. I of course feel more comfortable when I can get others to confirm.
Thanks
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That I'm not sure about. Probably?
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That I'm not sure about. Probably?
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Thanks.
I probably should have mentioned that I am on Verizon and have unlocked bootloader with root. Shouldn't assume that folks know that.
suzook said:
I loaded the kdz in lgup, used parttion upgrade, unchecked boot, and recovery....I did NOT reflash noencrypt or lgrootchecker, or magisk. It booted, still have root.
My service is better too. I already had the modem flashed, so there must be something with the actual 996 fw. I'm quite happy now.
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Wow! This is amazing! I'm on a converted ls as well. Thanks for testing this out!
Can you link to the kdz, please? I'm not sure where to find it.
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Can I load the vzw kdz on my open market us998?
From what I'm reading, it sounds like I can. I of course feel more comfortable when I can get others to confirm.
Thanks
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Well, Suzook wrote:
suzook said:
Anyone using a converted ls to us on Verizon NEEDS to do this! My service is back strong and better than ever.
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The "ls" he's referring to is likely the LS998, which was a Sprint phone. If that's what it was, then he had to convert it to an unlocked US998 to be able to load the Verizon kdz, so you should be able to do the same thing. Should, of course, being the operative word.
how do I stop this? I am not even logged on Playstore and all these weird games like solitaire keeps installing on its own.
It's adware triggered by first setup of the stock ROM. I was surprised when I got a US998 that it had all this adware, which was never on my former H932. I guess LG trying to make a few bucks on their phones.
You can you uninstall them. They'll come back if you perform a Factory Reset, but otherwise they'll stay away.
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It's adware triggered by first setup of the stock ROM. I was surprised when I got a US998 that it had all this adware, which was never on my former H932. I guess LG trying to make a few bucks on their phones.
You can you uninstall them. They'll come back if you perform a Factory Reset, but otherwise they'll stay away.
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I've never seen this and it's not on my wife's phone, my mother's phone, my sister's phone, my brother in law's phone, nor other friends.
What exactly are you seeing?
Now 30b -- U.S. Cellular Pie -- has games which I had trouble removing on my backup phone. But I've never seen any bloatware or adware on US998 Oreo KDZ. Unless you count social media stuff like Facebook.
It happened on both of the US998 (Frankensteined LS998) which I bought from YYwireless on eBay. Both came with Pie 30b. One I rolled back to Oreo 20h, and it happened again. I did a lot of Factory Reset / Master Reset on this phone trying to solve a modem issue after rolling back to Oreo, and these apps and games reinstall every time I go through first-time setup.
I cannot say why you don't get them. My first thought was it might be tied to the US Cellular 30b firmware, but again, I get it on 20h as well.
Edit: Oh, it's social media as well as games: Wish, Solitaire... at least a dozen apps, most are ones I never heard of. And they are NOT baked into the ROM, but rather downloaded and installed after first setup (thus easy to uninstall). These are in addition to the Facebook and Instagram apps baked into the ROM.
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It happened on both of the US998 (Frankensteined LS998) which I bought from YYwireless on eBay. Both came with Pie 30b. One I rolled back to Oreo 20h, and it happened again. I did a lot of Factory Reset / Master Reset on this phone trying to solve a modem issue after rolling back to Oreo, and these apps and games reinstall every time I go through first-time setup.
I cannot say why you don't get them. My first thought was it might be tied to the US Cellular 30b firmware, but again, I get it on 20h as well.
Edit: Oh, it's social media as well as games: Wish, Solitaire... at least a dozen apps, most are ones I never heard of. And they are NOT baked into the ROM, but rather downloaded and installed after first setup (thus easy to uninstall). These are in addition to the Facebook and Instagram apps baked into the ROM.
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The social media apps, yes. The games, that's strange.
But I never did a clean install from 20h. On all the phones I mentioned, I either updated over the months with TWRP-flashable zip (mine) or through Upgrade mode with KDZ via Dev Patched LGUP (all my friends, family members). Many started with 20c or 20d and then I updated them as LG released KDZ.
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But I never did a clean install from 20h. On all the phones I mentioned, I either updated over the months with TWRP-flashable zip (mine) or through Upgrade mode with KDZ via Dev Patched LGUP (all my friends, family members). Many started with 20c or 20d and then I updated them as LG released KDZ.
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I bet that's why: If you were to do a wipe and clean install on 20h, I imagine you would get them too. The only other explanation I can think of is that there are two different variants of 20h, one for US cellular and one pure LG. I forget if I downloaded from LG-Firmwares or from the mirrors in your your thread. But even on LG-Firmwares there is a dozen uploads of it, as I recall. Don't know if anyone eve bothered comparing them.
Edit: The MD5 of my 20h KZ matches the one from your AFH upload. I am downloading from LG-Firmwares now to see if there is a difference. The LG bridge link is broken, so can't check that one.
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I bet that's why: If you were to do a wipe and clean install on 20h, I imagine you would get them too. The only other explanation I can think of is that there are two different variants of 20h, one for US cellular and one pure LG. I forget if I downloaded from LG-Firmwares or from the mirrors in your your thread. But even on LG-Firmwares there is a dozen uploads of it, as I recall. Don't know if anyone eve bothered comparing them.
Edit: The MD5 of my 20h KZ matches the one from your AFH upload. I am downloading from LG-Firmwares now to see if there is a difference. The LG bridge link is broken, so can't check that one.
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Also, on my wife's I actually started with Nougat. We both have genuine Open Market USS98. My mother also.
The other people have YYWIRELESS converted LS998. And they started with some early Oreo but were never Bootloader Unlocked.
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Also, on my wife's I actually started with Nougat. We both have genuine Open Market USS98. My mother also.
The other people have YYWIRELESS converted LS998. And they started with some early Oreo but were never Bootloader Unlocked.
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I just finished downloading one of the 20h KDZs from LG-Firmwares, and it's the same MD5 as your AFH upload. Not a big surprise, I am sure you would have caught if there were two variants floating around.
So yes, I think anyone who does a clean install on 20h or newer will get this adware. My guess is that LG decided to leave the US998 to US Cellular at some point between 20b and 20h, and all new updates pass through them before being released -- and they are the ones inserting some adware to the ROM they get from LG.
I am curious, since you own some genuine Open Market US998s: Did you ever see an OTA offer of 20h? I assume not, since you were already rooted by then. But I am thinking that 20h may be just as much USC as 30b, and we're not going to get any "pure" LG Pie updates no matter how long we wait.
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It's adware triggered by first setup of the stock ROM. I was surprised when I got a US998 that it had all this adware, which was never on my former H932. I guess LG trying to make a few bucks on their phones.
You can you uninstall them. They'll come back if you perform a Factory Reset, but otherwise they'll stay away.
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Thank you for replying. How do you fully remove this adware? The first app that mysteriously appeared is called Games(com.dti.folderlauncher) I disabled it in the settings then resorted to uninstalling it via Titanium backup. But the odd thing is that it still manages to install these random games and social media apps. At this point, I don't even know what's installing them all and I don't know what to disable. I mean what package even installed the Games(com.dti.folderlauncher) app in the first place? I have not logged to Google or LG even in the first place. It just installed by itself as soon as i connected to the internet.
I could also confirm that this Games(com.dti.folderlauncher) appears in 20e after my test awhile ago.
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Thank you for replying. How do you fully remove this adware? The first app that mysteriously appeared is called Games(com.dti.folderlauncher) I disabled it in the settings then resorted to uninstalling it via Titanium backup. But the odd thing is that it still manages to install these random games and social media apps. At this point, I don't even know what's installing them all and I don't know what to disable. I mean what package even installed the Games(com.dti.folderlauncher) app in the first place? I have not logged to Google or LG even in the first place. It just installed by itself as soon as i connected to the internet.
I could also confirm that this Games(com.dti.folderlauncher) appears in 20e after my test awhile ago.
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The ones I get are just plain apps being downloaded right after setup, even if I don't log in with an account. They're not from Play Store. I can uninstall them easily, either from the apps menu or from the launcher (Nova in my case).
I wonder if you're seeing something else than me: Anything you can Disable has to be a system app (baked into the ROM, still there ready to be enabled). But none of the ones I see are system apps: You uninstall them, and they're gone. That's why I am not overly concerned, just a slight nuisance.
I wish I could remember the exact names of them. If you list more app names, I can confirm if they're the same I saw.
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The ones I get are just plain apps being downloaded right after setup, even if I don't log in with an account. They're not from Play Store. I can uninstall them easily, either from the apps menu or from the launcher (Nova in my case).
I wonder if you're seeing something else than me: Anything you can Disable has to be a system app (baked into the ROM, still there ready to be enabled). But none of the ones I see are system apps: You uninstall them, and they're gone. That's why I am not overly concerned, just a slight nuisance.
I wish I could remember the exact names of them. If you list more app names, I can confirm if they're the same I saw.
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I can uninstall all the apps except the Games app from Digital Turbine, I had to use titanium backup to uninstall it.
The apps that got installed automatically in order: Games(Digital Turbine) Delta Browser, News, Raid, Pandora, News Break, Wish, Pop! Slots, TikTok, SmartNews, Bingo Blitz, Board Kings, King of Avalon, Caesars Slots, Solitaire and Slotmania.
I have another question, do you have an idea why busybox is not working for me? I tried it on 20e and 20h and it shows (no info provided) on magisk. I downloaded it straight from magisk too.
Mobile Services Manager is the nasty little culprit!! Settings/ Apps&Notifications/App Info, you may have to turn on system apps, I have the app disabled for the moment!! :good:
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Mobile Services Manager is the nasty little culprit!! Settings/ Apps&Notifications/App Info, you may have to turn on system apps, I have the app disabled for the moment!! :good:
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Yeah, the other person who had issues mentioned that -- I now remember.
Since I didn't have any problems I didn't pay much attention at the time...
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Mobile Services Manager is the nasty little culprit!! Settings/ Apps&Notifications/App Info, you may have to turn on system apps, I have the app disabled for the moment!! :good:
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Thank you! I remember seeing that and wondering what it was! What a nasty piece of crap, including its legitimate sounding name. Right out of the spammers playbook. Shame on LG for allowing this.
@noddledizzy: Yes, that's the list of apps. All of them can be uninstalled, then disable that Mobile Services Manager. I don't remember a Games app, but there is a Gaming system app, which is legit and unrelated to these -- although I have no idea what it does.
@soundgirl101
Thank you! @ChazzMatt @TheDannemand
would it be possible to update the stock oreo roms and remove this? according to @TheDannemand, every new owners of US996 who wish to stick with stock roms are bound to get this.
@soundgirl101
Thank you!
@ChazzMatt @TheDannemand
would it be possible to update the stock oreo roms and remove this? according to @TheDannemand, every new owners of US998 who wish to stick with stock roms are bound to get this.
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Mobile Services Manager is the nasty little culprit!! Settings/ Apps&Notifications/App Info, you may have to turn on system apps, I have the app disabled for the moment!! :good:
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May I also ask how you figured this out? I am curious to know how you were able to track the culprit.
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would it be possible to update the stock oreo roms and remove this? according to @TheDannemand, every new owners of US998 who wish to stick with stock roms are bound to get this.
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If you remove it, it would have to be as a TWRP flashable zip, only for rooted users. We cannot create updated KDZs, they're signed and encrypted.
I don't think it's that big a problem: It's only once after clean install, and you just uninstall the downloaded apps and disable Mobile Services Manager.
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Thank you!
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would it be possible to update the stock oreo roms and remove this? according to @TheDannemand, every new owners of US998 who wish to stick with stock roms are bound to get this.
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More information:
http://telstramobileloop.com/what-is-mobile-services-manager/
Most Android phones seem to have it but can be used in nefarious ways by carriers for bloatware. The article recommends you disable it immediately.
I checked and I already have this frozen in Titanium Backup for some reason. Who knows when I did that?
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http://telstramobileloop.com/what-is-mobile-services-manager/
I checked and I already have this frozen in Titanium Backup for some reason. Who knows when I did that?
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Yes, that's the one.
What's interesting here is that US998 was supposed to NOT be a carrier device, so one expects it to be free from crap like this. Which again leads me to believe that there hasn't been a "pure LG" US998 update since 20e. They're all US Cellular now.
Edit: I used to own a H932, which I am sure didn't have this. To confirm, I just checked my wife's H932 (all stock, not even rooted) and it's not on there. I don't think the article is correct that most Androids have this. Certainly not higher end phones.
Who bought this phone I mean? It looks like no one seems to care about this phone. Its all over youtube but, everyone seems to be doing the same thing, unboxing it. I was hoping I could get some attention to this phone so I can talk to others. Anyone plan on purchasing this phone? If so, tell me why, if not I also wanna know about that to.
Guess it is still early stage release for this phone, not many ppl got it. Youtube reviewer could get early shipped unit usually.
I got the phone but my mobile data doesn't work with telus and I can't change the apn. I need help. The only Sim I've been able to get work for Data is freedom mobile. I have reception just no data.
I bought an asus rog 5, red magic 6 and the lenovo legion 2 to compare them all since none of the reviewers ever talk about what I am interested in. No reviews I have seen have mentioned that the always on display is broken, or at least it is for me. You can turn it on, but it will only stay on for a few seconds and then it will turn itself off. Which reminds me, they also don't mention that the always on display on the red magic 6 doesnt show notifications. The only phone that has an always on display that works right is the rog 5. Also no matter what I do with the legion 2 it does not work reliably with notifications for anything other than sms. Sometimes notifications work, sometimes they don't. I've tested the legion 2 with tmobile and straight talk in the usa and 5g works with tmobile, so that is something that may be useful to know.
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I got the phone but my mobile data doesn't work with telus and I can't change the apn. I need help. The only Sim I've been able to get work for Data is freedom mobile. I have reception just no data.
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Ive got Mint mobile here in the states. Im not having any issues, and its $15 a month. Maybe try them?
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I bought an asus rog 5, red magic 6 and the lenovo legion 2 to compare them all since none of the reviewers ever talk about what I am interested in. No reviews I have seen have mentioned that the always on display is broken, or at least it is for me. You can turn it on, but it will only stay on for a few seconds and then it will turn itself off. Which reminds me, they also don't mention that the always on display on the red magic 6 doesnt show notifications. The only phone that has an always on display that works right is the rog 5. Also no matter what I do with the legion 2 it does not work reliably with notifications for anything other than sms. Sometimes notifications work, sometimes they don't. I've tested the legion 2 with tmobile and straight talk in the usa and 5g works with tmobile, so that is something that may be useful to know.
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Wow, you bought all 3, thats awesome. The 3 you mentioned were the ones I was thinking about too, those and the ZTE Axon 30 Pro, because origianlly it was thought to have an under display camera and a 6.92" screen. Really, when it comes down to it, as long as its a flagship phone, whichever one has the bigger screen, thats who ill go with, hence why I bought the Legion Duel 2. I did really want the Rog 5 though but, I went with screen size. I havent had any issues with notifications though, at least none that ive noticed, im still getting used to this phone.
Phaze1585 said:
Wow, you bought all 3, thats awesome. The 3 you mentioned were the ones I was thinking about too, those and the ZTE Axon 30 Pro, because origianlly it was thought to have an under display camera and a 6.92" screen. Really, when it comes down to it, as long as its a flagship phone, whichever one has the bigger screen, thats who ill go with, hence why I bought the Legion Duel 2. I did really want the Rog 5 though but, I went with screen size. I havent had any issues with notifications though, at least none that ive noticed, im still getting used to this phone.
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Do you have the chinese rom or the global one? Mine is chinese. Of the three phones I wanted the red magic 6 to be the best because it feels the best when I hold it, but the battery life is terrible, the screen is dim and the software overall is not anywhere near the same league as the rog which easily has the best options and features. I am keeping the legion 2 though because I think it has potential with a few updates and it does have the biggest screen. Scrolling also is smoother even though the red magic 6 and rog 5 have all the same specs and either the same or better refresh rates. I use Firefox as a test to see how smooth a phone is when it comes to slowly scrolling. It is terrible on most phones for some reason, so if a phone scrolls smooth in Firefox then it is easily noticeable.
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Do you have the chinese rom or the global one? Mine is chinese. Of the three phones I wanted the red magic 6 to be the best because it feels the best when I hold it, but the battery life is terrible, the screen is dim and the software overall is not anywhere near the same league as the rog which easily has the best options and features. I am keeping the legion 2 though because I think it has potential with a few updates and it does have the biggest screen. Scrolling also is smoother even though the red magic 6 and rog 5 have all the same specs and either the same or better refresh rates. I use Firefox as a test to see how smooth a phone is when it comes to slowly scrolling. It is terrible on most phones for some reason, so if a phone scrolls smooth in Firefox then it is easily noticeable.
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Ive got the Chinese rom but, I gotta be honest, im on the edge of switching back to my 12 Pro Max. I love the customization of android, and unless I start removing apps via ADB I dont think im going to keep the phone. I mean, iPhone has little to no customization but you expect that. When it comes to android, I expect to be able to make my phone the way I want and because of the way Lenovo has the rom set up, I cant seem to do much of anything. I cant fully run Nova Launcher, use Google contacts or Google phone. Lenovo locks everything down so much that it takes all the fun out of it. How do you feel about Legion UI?
I was able to install contacts and google phone with no problem once I installed the play store. Actually I wasn't able to receive calls until I installed google phone. I'm used to these kind of problems with using purely Chinese phones though so its just something I work around I suppose. I've read that the global rom can be flashed on this phone which would fix all of the google issues, but no one has actually tried it that I know of: https://www.getdroidtips.com/lenovo-legion-2-pro-firmware-flash-file/
If you want a proper phone though the Rog 5 with the global rom is the way to go. Everything just works and it is incredibly customizable.
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I was able to install contacts and google phone with no problem once I installed the play store. Actually I wasn't able to receive calls until I installed google phone. I'm used to these kind of problems with using purely Chinese phones though so its just something I work around I suppose. I've read that the global rom can be flashed on this phone which would fix all of the google issues, but no one has actually tried it that I know of: https://www.getdroidtips.com/lenovo-legion-2-pro-firmware-flash-file/
If you want a proper phone though the Rog 5 with the global rom is the way to go. Everything just works and it is incredibly customizable.
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That would be a thought, instead of just returning the phone. My only issue with that is it takes longer to get updates with the global rom. Do you have global running on your phone or are you using stock?
Also have a CN (legion 2 pro) 16/512, nice phone but killing issue is:
1) 4G, 5G (voice, volte) not working for incoming calls (the subscriber is not serviced IVR message for caller). Work only outgoing calls.
TELE2 Russia, using slow 3G for calls and data.
2) Google Pay always disappear from default payment method in Tap&Pay option.
Would like to try change CN to Global ROM but still no instruction and support of lenovo ignoring me (usual for lenovo, crap support).
I haven't installed the global rom, if you end up installing it let me know how it goes. There is so little information about this phone that I don't know if it is better or worse. It would at least have all the Google stuff though.
dEFLASH said:
Also have a CN (legion 2 pro) 16/512, nice phone but killing issue is:
1) 4G, 5G (voice, volte) not working for incoming calls (the subscriber is not serviced IVR message for caller). Work only outgoing calls.
TELE2 Russia, using slow 3G for calls and data.
2) Google Pay always disappear from default payment method in Tap&Pay option.
Would like to try change CN to Global ROM but still no instruction and support of lenovo ignoring me (usual for lenovo, crap support).
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dEFLASH, I saw you on the Lenovo community thread. I perosnally dont use Gpay, so I couldnt tell you anything on that end but, I havent had any issues with making or receving calls. Im on Mint mobile, they run off T-Mobile towers. Have you tried tweeking your APN settings? toliveforever, posted a link to me instructions on how to flash the global rom for the phone if you wanna give that a try.
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I haven't installed the global rom, if you end up installing it let me know how it goes. There is so little information about this phone that I don't know if it is better or worse. It would at least have all the Google stuff though.
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Which method did you use to install Google play services on you phone and what did you do to get Google contacts and phone to work for you?
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dEFLASH, I saw you on the Lenovo community thread. I perosnally dont use Gpay, so I couldnt tell you anything on that end but, I havent had any issues with making or receving calls. Im on Mint mobile, they run off T-Mobile towers. Have you tried tweeking your APN settings? toliveforever, posted a link to me instructions on how to flash the global rom for the phone if you wanna give that a try.
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Tried a change APN, it's working OK with DATA via 4G only, voice still not working for incoming calls.
About a flashing global ROM afraid to get a brick or lost some parts like fingertip scanner or IMEI.
Anyway send me info in PM or just right there, wanna check it.
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Which method did you use to install Google play services on you phone and what did you do to get Google contacts and phone to work for you?
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I just installed the usual google stuff from the apkpure website. I install things in a certain order though, not sure if it makes a difference but I do google account manager, contacts, calendar then playstore. I use the playstore to install gmail, the google phone and google messages. I don't open anything until the playstore and then I just sign into the playstore and it seems to log everything else in that I use afterwards.
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I just installed the usual google stuff from the apkpure website. I install things in a certain order though, not sure if it makes a difference but I do google account manager, contacts, calendar then playstore. I use the playstore to install gmail, the google phone and google messages. I don't open anything until the playstore and then I just sign into the playstore and it seems to log everything else in that I use afterwards.
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So did you sign into your Google account via the phone or did you download the apks first?
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So did you sign into your Google account via the phone or did you download the apks first?
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I don't sign into anything until installing the play store, when you open it you can't go any further without entering your information. I also manually gave permissions to everything in the phone settings and whitelisted things in the lenovo security app afterwards because this phone loves to deny permissions and kill apps in the background. I don't know if you've looked into the built in security app, but you have to set it up or it will kill apps automatically. It also can't be removed with ADB or you lose the ability to change permissions entirely. The stock launcher can't be removed either or you lose gestures.
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I don't sign into anything until installing the play store, when you open it you can't go any further without entering your information. I also manually gave permissions to everything in the phone settings and whitelisted things in the lenovo security app afterwards because this phone loves to deny permissions and kill apps in the background. I don't know if you've looked into the built in security app, but you have to set it up or it will kill apps automatically. It also can't be removed with ADB or you lose the ability to change permissions entirely. The stock launcher can't be removed either or you lose gestures.
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Interesting. So, were you able to get a launcher to work for you or do you just use the stock laucnher?
Phaze1585 said:
Ive got Mint mobile here in the states. Im not having any issues, and its $15 a month. Maybe try them?
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I'm in Canada. Using telus only freedom works. I can Hotspot data from the phone because it has hotspot apn settings but not regular ones. Trying to root but I can't get fastboot to detect it.