LDAC Bluetooth audio? - Huawei MediaPad M5 Questions & Answers

I thought I read somewhere that the M5 supports LDAC Bluetooth audio. I don't see it in the developer options Bluetooth codecs. And it doesn't work with my Sony AVR that supports LDAC. Any ideas?

I doubt it has the LDAC support. WH-1000XM2 headphones which are LDAC compatible can connect to M5 with aptX HD at best.

This site claims it has it, https://www.bluetoothcheck.com/d/huawei-mediapad-m5-8
Also ldac is baked into Oreo aosp, manufacturers only have to add it to their variants of oreo. So far, however, it seems the M5 doesn't have it.

I think they made a simple assumption that every oreo build has it implemented.

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[Q] Xperia z tablet aptx question (lollipop update)

Hello. I've upgraded to lollipop and I've found that now when I connect to an aptx enabled bluetooth device a little message now pops up saying 'connected to aptx device' The z tablet had not previously been aptx compatible and the message never appeared before . Is it possible that lollipop has upgraded the tablet z? Or is it simply that it knows there's an aptx device but the tablet itself can't send an aptx signal? Thanks very much.
@gmjh I had a similar experience. I do not think aptX codecs have been installed by the Lollipop update. I believe the Xperia tablet is just recognizing your headset as a aptX capable device. I say this because, I compare the sound quality between my HTC One (which has aptX installed) and the Lollipop Xperia with my modded LG Tone Pro (with high end Logitech UE900s IEMS attached) and the difference is like night and day. My tablet is probably just using the crappy SBC codec.
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On a different note, I should say, I am very happy with the aptX codec implementation and it quite lives upto its claims - the quality is close to a wired setup which is to say that it is quite an acheivement for bluetooth. I tend to use my bluetooth setup more often than my amplified wired setup.
PRANEETHBM said:
@gmjh I had a similar experience. I do not think aptX codecs have been installed by the Lollipop update. I believe the Xperia tablet is just recognizing your headset as a aptX capable device. I say this because, I compare the sound quality between my HTC One (which has aptX installed) and the Lollipop Xperia with my modded LG Tone Pro (with high end Logitech UE900s IEMS attached) and the difference is like night and day. My tablet is probably just using the crappy SBC codec.
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On a different note, I should say, I am very happy with the aptX codec implementation and it quite lives upto its claims - the quality is close to a wired setup which is to say that it is quite an acheivement for bluetooth. I tend to use my bluetooth setup more often than my amplified wired setup.
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That's interesting. I also have an htc one m8 as well as the sony z tablet. But when I play them after the lollipop update I cannot hear any difference in sound quality. If I then play via a lenovo tablet ( which definitely doesn't have aptx) then I can hear a night and day difference. So I still think it's possible the sony z tablet actually does have the aptx codec installed now. Thanks very much for answering.

Does US Wifi MediaPad 8.4 have LDAC and GPS?

My Chinese LTE does not have LDAC.
Nor can I install SmartThings app. Can US wifi version install it?
No LDAC on USA version, I'm not sure why huewei doesn't have it. Ldac is supposed be part of Oreo AOSP.
Thanks. I have a M5 Mediapad Lite on order. Ill report in when I receive it from Europe.
MediaPad M5 Lite no LDAC either
After the last update on my M5 8.4, APT X HD also seems to be gone...
You're correct. Aptx HD is no longer available! What gives?!
I'm going to send it back. On the box is a label saying Hi-Res audio... Total bull****.
Are you sure Aptx HD was available before? It was never present, nor LDAC, on original 10.5 back in July. I even rooted the tablet and applied the Android O Aptx / LDAC libraries via Magisk, but still they don't show up as options in dev options. Frustrating since I have Aptx HD headphones.
I used to have APT X HD. It was present in developer options and in my Sony Headphones app when it was connected. After the update only APT X was shown.
I presume it has something to do with the WiFi bandwidth problems some users have in combination with Bluetooth.
Good point, maybe that's why they removed it. I frequently get unable lag with just Aptx when watching videos, even when not streaming.

lack of apt-x hd got you down?

so far i'm really liking this phone. however, there are a couple things i wish were a little different:
1) i wish it had a dedicated, not-behind-the-screen fingerprint sensor (one thing my old LG did right).
2) i wish it supported apt-x hd for use with my (non-sony) wireless headphones.
so, i went looking for a solution to #2. for now, it appears that samsung just doesn't support apt-x hd-- and future official support is looking somewhere between doubtful and hopeless. additionally, i have a us version; my bootloader is locked and there does not appear to be a feasible software solution to the problem without root.
however, i stumbled onto this: creative bt-w3. i ordered it today and most likely won't have my hands on it for another week, buti wanted to make this post to:
--let people know about this possible solution to a vexing problem
--solicit any feedback or reviews, in case someone has already received one.
thanks for reading.
Vexing? This is vexing?
I just use LDAC, it's better than APT-X HD...
The Note9 when came out with Oreo, it had AptXHD then it was removed with Android Pie.
Now, after complaining, they out back AptX yet no HD support or HiRes audio support.
Seems Samsung is all about gimmicks but not audio.
The Dolby Atmos is crap if someone wants to defend them, try the Dolby Atmos on a Xbox One, then try the Samsung version and it's just an equalizer setting.
I'm currently saving for the Xperia phone, I'm done with Samsung.
Hey zagtastic, did you get this creative device working on your phone? I'm curious if it did in fact work for you. I'm looking into getting an S20 5G and was surprised by the lack of aptx-hd support on the specs.
liamstears said:
I just use LDAC, it's better than APT-X HD...
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If memory serves me correctly it's not; AptX-HD has better overall audio qualities. LDAC is the next best.
Even rooting won't give you AptX-HD; all these latter generation Samsung's lack the hardware support for this codec.
Sammy boned us proper...
Bump, so does this thing work on a Samsung?
My Soundpeats TrueAir 2 buds sound bloody awesome with Dolby on but also running Poweramp. If anything they sound better than they were on my Mi10T Pro that has Apt-x built in.
roaduardo said:
Vexing? This is vexing?
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No. whats vexing is buying the Note 20 Ultra 5G "unlocked" from Best Buy at $1300 only to realize it is still impossible to unlock the bootloader despite "right to repair". I will never buy another Galaxy or any other overpriced, overgoverned Samdung product. I should have bought another OnePlus. The lack of Apt-X is irritating but not a problem Id call "vexing" when there are so many other complaints that dwarf it.
Any Bluetooth codec will never be as good as a wired set of headphones anyway, UAPP or Poweramp output to 1 More or Similar in ears will sound a lot better, (inexpensively)
blackhawk said:
If memory serves me correctly it's not; AptX-HD has better overall audio qualities. LDAC is the next best.
Even rooting won't give you AptX-HD; all these latter generation Samsung's lack the hardware support for this codec.
Sammy boned us proper...
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My ultra has aptX. It's in the developer section. Turn on HD audio and you can select it.
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My ultra has aptX. It's in the developer section. Turn on HD audio and you can select it.
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SSC is a better choice for Samsung Buds, etc. then APTX. Sample it...
blackhawk said:
If memory serves me correctly it's not; AptX-HD has better overall audio qualities. LDAC is the next best.
Even rooting won't give you AptX-HD; all these latter generation Samsung's lack the hardware support for this codec.
Sammy boned us proper...
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LDAC streams at a max of 990kbps, translating to a sample rate of 96kHz and a bit depth of 24 bits while APTXhd stops at 48 kHz.
So LDAC is the top one followed by APTXhd
corbalan12 said:
LDAC streams at a max of 990kbps, translating to a sample rate of 96kHz and a bit depth of 24 bits while APTXhd stops at 48 kHz.
So LDAC is the top one followed by APTXhd
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If you bt device doesn't support LDAC but its a Samsung bt that supports SCC that's probably the next best choice.
APTX HD is off the table useless it's hardware supported to begin with. Samsung does not support it.

Question Aptx HD connection problem in redmi note 10

Hi! I bought this BT receiver
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I cannot connect to aptx hd on this BT receiver using my redmi note 10. It always connects to aptx. I tried to connect the receiver with redmi note 9s/pro. It was connected to aptx hd without any hassle. The problem is with redmi note 10. Anyone using aptx hd on redmi note 10 using any adapter? I tried to select aptx hd in the BT codec option under developer options. But I cannot connect to aptx hd, rather it connects to aptx. How to connect to aptx hd using redmi note 10?
Yes..
Same issue..
Tried couple of Custom ROMs for that option.
One of the guy said It's working in EvolX ROM, but after flashing and using the ROM for a week I found no codec.
I was able to use aptX codec after flashing the module...
Conclusion:
I think the device has default support for SBC codec only.
muzaim76 said:
Yes..
Same issue..
Tried couple of Custom ROMs for that option.
One of the guy said It's working in EvolX ROM, but after flashing and using the ROM for a week I found no codec.
I was able to use aptX codec after flashing the module...
Conclusion:
I think the device has default support for SBC codec only.
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Thank you for the reply. Did you try ldac codec? Please let me know if you find any suitable rom that supports aptx hd.
Zht.840 said:
Thank you for the reply. Did you try ldac codec? Please let me know if you find any suitable rom that supports aptx hd.
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I am in the same boat. Recently got a FiiO BTR5, which supports almost all codecs under the sun. But the phone only does SBC, AAC and AptX. No way to get either AptX HD or LDAC to get to work. I used my old phone (G7 thinQ) and both LDAC and AptX-HD work flawlessly, so the issue is definitely with the Redmi Note 10.
It's a shame since LDAC/AptX-HD sound a lot better with my audio setup. Although AptX does come close too. Hope they fix it in an update.
namkum said:
I am in the same boat. Recently got a FiiO BTR5, which supports almost all codecs under the sun. But the phone only does SBC, AAC and AptX. No way to get either AptX HD or LDAC to get to work. I used my old phone (G7 thinQ) and both LDAC and AptX-HD work flawlessly, so the issue is definitely with the Redmi Note 10.
It's a shame since LDAC/AptX-HD sound a lot better with my audio setup. Although AptX does come close too. Hope they fix it in an update.
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Its a shame that xiaomi claims note 10 to have high resolution audio. The dual speakers sound crispy though, but why wouldn't it support aptx hd! If you get a solution let me know. Thanks.
namkum said:
I am in the same boat. Recently got a FiiO BTR5, which supports almost all codecs under the sun. But the phone only does SBC, AAC and AptX. No way to get either AptX HD or LDAC to get to work. I used my old phone (G7 thinQ) and both LDAC and AptX-HD work flawlessly, so the issue is definitely with the Redmi Note 10.
It's a shame since LDAC/AptX-HD sound a lot better with my audio setup. Although AptX does come close too. Hope they fix it in an update.
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Hi!
Do you feel any notable difference between aptx and aptx hd?
Same problem here. Bought Philips Fidelio L3 headphones which support AptX HD. Once the developers mode is enabled, I can see AptX HD in the list of possible codecs, but I can't force the phone to use it. AptX works.
My son's phone automatically uses AptX HD to connect to these headphones, so the problem is definitely in Redmi Note 10. I do hope that it#s a software problem and that this problem will be fixed with some future firmware update ... Does Xiaomi have some support I could ask about this (where?)? Has anyone managed to make AptX HD work with this phone in the meantime?
U can try with this magisk module https://github[.]com/multiwirth/aptx-HD-magisk
Hi, try that :
[Module] aptx (HD) for Android 12/11/10/9/8 LineageOS 18.1/19.0
Hi there, This is a magisk module compatible with any android device (except x86) running at least android oreo up to latest and greatest Android 11! It was tested on lineage based roms but should work on all AOSP and some stock roms just fine...
forum.xda-developers.com
It worcked for me on linageos 18.1 gsi but there isn't any aptx adaptive. I'm gona try to edit the vendor partition soon.

Question Snapdragon Sound on pixel 6?

Qualcomm has been very cloak & dagger about different versions of aptX adaptive, and aptX voice, and aptX lossless.
My main interest is aptX voice support. Since the google Tensor chip isn't a QUALCOMM thing, there's no official support for "snapdragon sound".
Does anyone know if someone can rip snapdragon sound from another device and put it on a pixel 6 with a custom rom?
see here
Does the Pixel 6 Pro include aptX, aptX HD, LDAC? Specs page is silent - Google Pixel Community
aptx is supported on the pixel so what you're asking should work, as long as you're using a compatible audio device
As already pointed out, Pixel 6 supports QCOM's aptX, aptX HD audio codecs. You couldn't "rip" support for additional codecs anyway, they are hardware dependent and rely on proprietary vendor binaries. No support for aptX Adaptive or Low Latency afaik.
aptx is low latency?
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aptx is low latency?
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THis is a complicated question to answer "it depends".
HOwever, the product known as aptx-LL is not usually available with OS native bluetooth stacks, it's implemented usually with USB dongles that the computer or phone sees as a generic usb audio device. Thus, aptx-LL is vaporware without the use of a dongle.
Presumably the long term goal is for that to eventually be replaced by aptx Adaptive, which combines some of the LL & HD features to some extent. Unfortunately, it's become impossible to know which "Versions" of aptx adaptive are supported by various phones and headphones, because qualcomm's "snapdragon sound" certification is confusing to end users. Presumably, most devices support aptX adaptive, but it's really hard to figure out if a device supports aptX Voice (most don't), AptX TWS+ (most do?) and Aptx Lossless (still too new) which are all part of the "snapdragon sound" umbrella
I've just been through all this trying to find a device that supports Snapdragon Sound, as I review earbuds and need to ensure I am able to give them their best opportunity with supporting services.
Aptx-adaptive is quite commonplace now with most earbuds using the Qualcomm QCC3040 and QCC3046 chipsets, which covers many new releases from Soundpeats and Earfun to KZ, offering this codec as an option. Snapdragon Sound is a marketing term encompassing 96k Aptx-Adaptive and 32k Aptx-Voice, and very few products support it (QCY T18, Edifier NeoBuds S and Lollipods, etc.)
Whilst most 2021 Snapdragon phones support aptx-adaptive, I believe the only devices that support the three Snapdragon Sound codecs are those with Snapdragon 888 and higher processors.
I tried my Snapdragon Sound-capable earbuds on a few other devices and was able to get aptx-adaptive working but had some issues getting consistent 48k.
I ended up settling on the (otherwise awful) Xiaomi 11T Pro as the only others that supported the codecs at the time were Moto devices mostly only available in the U.S. I agree it is confusing and not particularly user friendly - there is no indication you're getting the desired codec, you have to dig around a fair bit to see what you're actually using. It's not even as easy as selecting LDAC or LHDC - seems like hi resolution sound is very much an afterthought.
can i say its killing me there aint no dolby atmos (the soundfx version, not the decoder version)
trying wavelet, but there are drop outs, im troubleshooting it
im hedging my bets, bt 5.2 etc will over take at some point with features

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