I just spoke to a Moto Rep face to face at a Verizon Location. I asked specificly when the G6 Plus would be available in the states and he said only 4 devices will be available in that price range, the E4, E5, G6, and G6 play.
Then in the 2 quarter they will announce the Z3 which he wouldn't comment on....
*EDIT*
I ended up purchasing a Moto G6 Plus Dual SIM International Model, because it has all the current GSM Carrier LTE Bands, but this model does not play nice on CDMA Carriers LTE, except TMOs 600mhz... Contacted Motorola in regards to turning the 600mhz band on, awaiting a reply.
Also, I contacted Moto Customer Care, they confirmed what i previously stated, in regards to NO USA G6 Plus Version.....
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The Moto G6 Plus Dual SIM variant will the Model # XT-1926-7 WILL BE COMPATIBLE WITH AT&T WIRELESS AND T-Mobile, except for TMO's 600mhz band, which i am waiting for an answer from the Moto Gods above...
The dual Sim international version has same LTE Bands as US except 600mhz. I just ordered a G6 Plus International version from Amazon.
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Lenovo trying to commit suicide in the US?
Ordered a XT-1926-7 Dual SIM Variant of the Moto G6 Plus from Amazon, will be here tomorrow....
By the way, This particular model covers ALL GSM Carriers LTE Bands for AT&T and TMO, except for the 600 mhz band which i am waiting to find out if theres an ON switch for that...
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Ordered a XT-1926-7 Dual SIM Variant of the Moto G6 Plus from Amazon, will be here tomorrow....
By the way, This particular model covers ALL GSM Carriers LTE Bands for AT&T and TMO, except for the 600 mhz band which i am waiting to find out if theres an ON switch for that...
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Does this mean the 600mhz band only applies to T-Mobile, or would need to switch it on to use with AT&T as well?
Justin Hood said:
Does this mean the 600mhz band only applies to T-Mobile, or would need to switch it on to use with AT&T as well?
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I believe the 600mhz band is more for capacity issues, and im not sure if ATT will have Roaming Agreements with TMO on said spectrum... sorry
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But the model i ordered, the XT-1926-7, covers ALL ATT and TMO current bands...only a handful of devices are running 600mhz while other models will just require an OTA update to turn 600 to the ON position.
edit- just saw your edit. I just looked it up, and my current US market phone is not among the handful that support that band anyway.
Thank you. I live in a remote rural area where T-mobile reception was bad, and AT&T is acceptable with a normal USA phone, so I probably do need all those bands.
Disappointed to find out no G6 plus or Nokia 7 plus in USA. Maybe that will change. In the meantime it would be great if international versions works just as well- please update if/how you get that band turned on.
Mine should be here any minute
My luck USPS will run late today....
I don't understand their sales policy, don't know about US but example from UK:
G6 Plus exclusively sold by one company not available elsewhere. Amazon UK for some reason only sells G6 Play as well says "exclusive for Amazon" but lets say Amazon DE do sell G6 Plus. P.S. Why Motorola don't sell their phones directly on their website..? I'm confused...
Update on Activating/Enabling 600 mhz
fo use on t-mobile. Just ordered phone. Thanks
If I call Moto/Lenovo direct, could I buy one for use in USA? If I told them I will be traveling abroad? Maybe?
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If I call Moto/Lenovo direct, could I buy one for use in USA? If I told them I will be traveling abroad? Maybe?
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Don't believe what they say on the Amazon website about the LTE bands for the MOTO G6 Plus (XT191926-7).
They say:
HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100 - LTE band 1(2100), 2(1900), 3(1800), 4(1700/2100), 5(850), 7(2600), 8(900), 12(700), 13(700), 17(700), 20(800), 25(1900), 26(850), 28(700), 29(700), 30(2300), 38(2600), 41(2500), 66(1700/2100) - Dual SIM (Nano-SIM, dual stand-by)
This is not true.
The LTE bands are:
LTE band 1(2100), 3(1800), 5(850), 7(2600), 8(900), 20(800), 38(2600) - Europe
LTE band 1(2100), 3(1800), 5(850), 7(2600), 28(700) - Brazil
LTE band 1(2100), 2(1900), 3(1800), 5(850), 7(2600), 8(900), 18(800), 19(800), 26(850), 28(700), 38(2600), 40(2300), 41(2500) - India
I returned my order using prime
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Don't believe what they say on the Amazon website about the LTE bands for the MOTO G6 Plus (XT191926-7).
They say:
HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100 - LTE band 1(2100), 2(1900), 3(1800), 4(1700/2100), 5(850), 7(2600), 8(900), 12(700), 13(700), 17(700), 20(800), 25(1900), 26(850), 28(700), 29(700), 30(2300), 38(2600), 41(2500), 66(1700/2100) - Dual SIM (Nano-SIM, dual stand-by)
This is not true.
The LTE bands are:
LTE band 1(2100), 3(1800), 5(850), 7(2600), 8(900), 20(800), 38(2600) - Europe
LTE band 1(2100), 3(1800), 5(850), 7(2600), 28(700) - Brazil
LTE band 1(2100), 2(1900), 3(1800), 5(850), 7(2600), 8(900), 18(800), 19(800), 26(850), 28(700), 38(2600), 40(2300), 41(2500) - India
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After i found that same info, that there isn't a -7 variant and reported the seller.. The person who started this thread wasnt so lucky here or on the moto board..
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If I call Moto/Lenovo direct, could I buy one for use in USA? If I told them I will be traveling abroad? Maybe?
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No just but it off Amazon. I live in US and bought it from Amazon.com.
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After i found that same info, that there isn't a -7 variant and reported the seller.. The person who started this thread wasnt so lucky here or on the moto board..
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There is a XT1926-7 Variant for the G6Plus as I have it. What do you mean the OP was not so lucky?
I used this info to inform my decision to return the g6 +
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No just but it off Amazon. I live in US and bought it from Amazon.com.
There is a XT1926-7 Variant for the G6Plus as I have it. What do you mean the OP was not so lucky?
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https://www.phonemore.com/motorola-moto-g6-plus/models/1819
since It doesn't list a -7 variant as the amazon ad does. If yours is a -7 variant it will be marked on the phones back bottom bezel. In the end i couldnt construct enough supportive data that persuaded me to buy the g6+. Probably the largest factor was that the G6+ didnt have a US warranty. Search for the OPs name on the G6+ motorola forum and read his lengthy exchange with them about the phones compatibility with US networks.
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https://www.phonemore.com/motorola-moto-g6-plus/models/1819
since It doesn't list a -7 variant as the amazon ad does. If yours is a -7 variant it will be marked on the phones back bottom bezel. In the end i couldnt construct enough supportive data that persuaded me to buy the g6+. Probably the largest factor was that the G6+ didnt have a US warranty. Search for the OPs name on the G6+ motorola forum and read his lengthy exchange with them about the phones compatibility with US networks.
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Stop with the misinformation.
First, you say there is no XT1926-7, now you say there is. Yes there is:
https://fccid.io/IHDT56WL5/Test-Report/XT1926-6-XT1926-7-TestRpt-DXX-3754423
Secondly, no it does not say it on the bezel. Again, take it from someone who owns the device.
Third, as for TJ/The OP, great guy. Talked to him on many occasions in the Telegram dev chat. I don't recall him having issues with carriers, but maybe I am forgetting something. We had issues with the software channel setting being RETLA not RETUS, so that might be a factor if he did indeed have issues. In either case, the device works fine for me on Straight Talk(AT&T), Simple Mobile(T-Mobile), and Walmart Family Mobile(T-Mobile). I see in the OP he mentioned CDMA carriers. The FCC report states it only supports WCDMA not CDMA. So that's probably a factor to.
If you have passed on the device, please pass up this part of the forum rather then spreading misinformation and contradicting yourself about a device you don't own which contradicts your earlier post here.
Ok..Ok You win the internets today
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Stop with the misinformation.
First, you say there is no XT1926-7, now you say there is. Yes there is:
https://fccid.io/IHDT56WL5/Test-Report/XT1926-6-XT1926-7-TestRpt-DXX-3754423
Secondly, no it does not say it on the bezel. Again, take it from someone who owns the device.
Third, as for TJ/The OP, great guy. Talked to him on many occasions in the Telegram dev chat. I don't recall him having issues with carriers, but maybe I am forgetting something. We had issues with the software channel setting being RETLA not RETUS, so that might be a factor if he did indeed have issues. In either case, the device works fine for me on Straight Talk(AT&T), Simple Mobile(T-Mobile), and Walmart Family Mobile(T-Mobile). I see in the OP he mentioned CDMA carriers. The FCC report states it only supports WCDMA not CDMA. So that's probably a factor to.
If you have passed on the device, please pass up this part of the forum rather then spreading misinformation and contradicting yourself about a device you don't own which contradicts your earlier post here.
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1- So what is the designation of that -7 variant? Does it get all the US LTE bands?
2- My G6 had it on a sticker fixed on the back.....
3-WhoTH said anything about anything being your friends fault? Nice of you to stick up for him though. So..it had to do with the software channel as you mentioned. How did you fix it?
Heres a link to the moto forum thread i reference...https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Moto-G...26-7-How-to-change-Retail-Channel/m-p/4119230
4- Again, MAIN reason i didnt buy this device was the lack of a warranty..
Have a good weekend...cheers
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1- So what is the designation of that -7 variant? Does it get all the US LTE bands?
2- My G6 had it on a sticker fixed on the back.....
3-WhoTH said anything about anything being your friends fault? Nice of you to stick up for him though. So..it had to do with the software channel as you mentioned. How did you fix it?
Heres a link to the moto forum thread i reference...https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Moto-G...26-7-How-to-change-Retail-Channel/m-p/4119230
4- Again, MAIN reason i didnt buy this device was the lack of a warranty..
Have a good weekend...cheers
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1. Answered in the Moto Forum Post you linked to, but It get's all T-Mo bands. I can't be asked to research other GSM based LTE Bands used in the US, but again, the phone works on AT&T and T-Mobile for me. I don't know what TJs issue was seems it is isolated or mostly isolated to him.
2. A sticker? Stickers come and go but I don't recall one being on my device.
3. Who said it was my friend? I said I have talked to him, and he's a good guy. No it was never determined to be software related. It was never confirmed what the issue was.
4. Again, you say you didn't buy it, but yet in point #2 you claimed yours had a sticker. If you didn't buy it then how did "your's" have a sticker?
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2. A sticker? Stickers come and go but I don't recall one being on my device.
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I had a sticker on the back of my G6 when I bought it.
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After i found that same info, that there isn't a -7 variant and reported the seller.. The person who started this thread wasnt so lucky here or on the moto board..
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Hi i've bought G6 XT1925-6 in US, and now i cant use it in asia carriers, its says "no service" i tried every method on internet but no one works for me, wht should i do?
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Since Nokia does clearly say everywhere else except the US that 920 does support 1700Mhz (for obvious reasons), I wonder if the hardware in the AT&T version will be the same as in the int'l version and it'll just be a matter of unlocking the phone to use it on TMo.
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I noticed that too!!
Its now PentaBand WCDMA/HSPA+ at 42Mbps. They added WCDMA 1700Mhz band on the specs.
Originally when the phone was announced last month was listed as QuadBand WCDMA missing the AWS band at 1700Mhz.
If this is true it means one of the following:
1.The band was always there and for some reason software locked and they decided unlock it and release it as a PendaBand.
2.They listen to the complaints (pretty much the same way they did and released the Cyan Color) as the missing AWS band was one the biggest complaints especially from T-Mobile USA subscribers and they decided to include it as well.
3.It is just a typo and Lumia 920 is still QuadBand HSPA.
4.It was a typo from the very beginning and Lumia 920 was always PentaBand.
Now assuming the the phone is PendaBand HSPA+ it will perfectly work with T-Mobile USA current 3G at AWS and with the reformed Network at 1900 they are preparing. It will work with both at 42Mbps speed.
The original unlocked Lumia 920 listed the following 5 LTE bands 800 / 1800 / 2600 / 900 / 2100.
If the unlocked phone comes with those LTE bands will be incompatible with T-Mobile USA upcoming 4G LTE network.
However the American model which AT&T will carry exclusively has the following LTE bands 700 / 850 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100
If Nokia also release an unlock/unbranded version of the American model with the above LTE bands and PentaBand HSPA+ this model along with the 42Mbps HSPA will also support T-Mobile's upcoming 4G LTE that coming mid of next year with theoretical speeds of 100Mbps.
Releasing this device will be the perfect option for T-Mobile subscribers as it will be future-proof for their upcoming LTE network.
I am curious to see whats really going on here. Meanwhile I am crossing my fingers. :good:
So Nokia needs to release a international us version?
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lovenokia said:
So Nokia needs to release a international us version?
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Unlocked/Unbranded version of the American model is the correct way of putting it.
Nokia used to have to versions of the unlock devices in the past. The regular version which was usually the European/International model and the NAM versions for North America.
Many devices came like that in the past including the N95 & N95 NAM, 5800 & 5800 NAM, N97 & N97 NAM etc.
All had QuadBand GSM and different bands for 3G, the NAM versions had the American bands for AT&T USA and Rogers for Canada.
Now that PentaBand is standard for 3G/WCDMA, they need to release (and I hope this is the case) the European Model with the European LTE bands and a "NAM" model with the American LTE frequencies.
I guess time will tell what exactly the case is going to be.
But again this is for LTE. Assuming that the information on the spec-sheet is correct and the Lumia 920 comes with WCDMA/AWS 1700 then it will work perfectly with T-Mobile USA and AT&T's HSPA+ at 42Mpbs.
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I noticed that too!!
Its now PentaBand WCDMA/HSPA+ at 42Mbps. They added WCDMA 1700Mhz band on the specs.
Originally when the phone was announced last month was listed as QuadBand WCDMA missing the AWS band at 1700Mhz.
If this is true it means one of the following:
1.The band was always there and for some reason software locked and they decided unlock it and release it as a PendaBand.
2.They listen to the complaints (pretty much the same way they did and released the Cyan Color) as the missing AWS band was one the biggest complaints especially from T-Mobile USA subscribers and they decided to include it as well.
3.It is just a typo and Lumia 920 is still QuadBand HSPA.
4.It was a typo from the very beginning and Lumia 920 was always PentaBand.
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Unfortunatly number 3 is the correct answer.
According to WPCentral.com the AWS 1700Mhz WCDMA support for T-Mobile 3G that listed in specs are just a typo on the website.
If this is the case, you can still use the Lumia 920 under T-Mobile 3G at 1900Mhz.
T-Mobile is reforming their Network and releasing 3G to 1900Mhz now, the problem is that we do not know what markets/areas has this already or how fast the project is moving on and when it will get complete..
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Unfortunatly number 3 is the correct answer.
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That's wrong, because this phone will be using the Snapdragon S4 Plus (MSM8960) which uses Software Defined Radio (SDR) for determining their bands. Obviously you cannot use all at the same time, but any one at any time. The HW supports this (according to the Qualcomm reference design), and if it hasn't been supported before in this chipset, it's probably due poor modem programming and/or unstable behavior, and/or band/bandwidth throttling by service providers networks. It's also an efficient way to make sure your Verizon mobile cannot use AT&T networks and vice verse...
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That's wrong, because this phone will be using the Snapdragon S4 Plus (MSM8960) which uses Software Defined Radio (SDR) for determining their bands. Obviously you cannot use all at the same time, but any one at any time. The HW supports this (according to the Qualcomm reference design), and if it hasn't been supported before in this chipset, it's probably due poor modem programming and/or unstable behavior, and/or band/bandwidth throttling by service providers networks. It's also an efficient way to make sure your Verizon mobile cannot use AT&T networks and vice verse...
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That is why I said its Number 3, according to WPCentral. I am aware of the SDR in the latest generation of Snapdragons, however as its name mention its programmable, meaning they may have turn off the AWS...
For me it doesn't make any sense to list the phone originally with QuadBand WCDMA and then add AWS and list it as a PentaBand.
I mean if it is wrong and its missing the AWS that is making the original listing with QuadBand the correct one, so why they bother changing it?
In the other hand if the SDR scenario applies and the AWS is already there, they may just heard the complains and simply turned ON the AWS band, that is why they added in to the specs meanwhile the Nokia representative that WPCentral reached may not be aware of the new specs yet...
All these are different scenarios, unless we have an official clarification from Nokia, we cannot know for sure until Lumia 920 its been released.
PS. Can you post the link with the detailed specifications of the Snapdragon S4 detailing the SDR? The specs I found does not include any information regarding this. If I am not mistaken and remember correctly SDR is affecting LTE only and its able to catch from 700Mhz - 2600Mhz (for LTE), its programmable to deliver everything between these bands but limited to deliver 5 Bands at a time. I do not remember mentioning WCDMA to be compatible with the SDR, but I may be wrong on that. Please feel free to correct me if that's the case.
According to FCC documents, looks like AWS is there. Question... Will it be disabled in the AT&T version? Unlock possible?
herzzreh said:
According to FCC documents, looks like AWS is there. Question... Will it be disabled in the AT&T version? Unlock possible?
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I read that the FCC Documents for the AT&T model are mentioning AWS (1700) for LTE. This is normal as AT&T's LTE is operating also in AWS.
I didn't read anything regarding AWS for 3G/WCDMA.
If you read back, it specifically mentions wcdma 1700. Document differentiates between lte freqs and wcdma ones.
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So since AT&T uses bands 4 & 17 for LTE (700/1700/2100MHz) and according to the Developers edition has 700/850/1900MHz then to me that looks like the Developers edition can only access AT&Ts 700 LTE bands.
Is this correct?
Seems to be correct.. but im not a expert when it comes to network bands
Red5 said:
So since AT&T uses bands 4 & 17 for LTE (700/1700/2100MHz) and according to the Developers edition has 700/850/1900MHz then to me that looks like the Developers edition can only access AT&Ts 700 LTE bands.
Is this correct?
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The Developers Edition page shows the following: LTE: 700/850/AWS/1900 MHz (US)
This would mean it supports 700, 850, 1700, 1900 and 2100. AWS refers to Band 4, which is 1700 for uplink and 2100 for downlink. Unless something in AT&T's white sheet is missing, the Developer's edition supports two extra bands that are used in some European and Asian countries.
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The Developers Edition page shows the following: LTE: 700/850/AWS/1900 MHz (US)
This would mean it supports 700, 850, 1700, 1900 and 2100. AWS refers to Band 4, which is 1700 for uplink and 2100 for downlink. Unless something in AT&T's white sheet is missing, the Developer's edition supports two extra bands that are used in some European and Asian countries.
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Ah, that clears it up for me. Thanks.
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The Developers Edition page shows the following: LTE: 700/850/AWS/1900 MHz (US)
This would mean it supports 700, 850, 1700, 1900 and 2100. AWS refers to Band 4, which is 1700 for uplink and 2100 for downlink. Unless something in AT&T's white sheet is missing, the Developer's edition supports two extra bands that are used in some European and Asian countries.
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Finally someone can give me a sensible answer! :thumbup:I read from another thread that T-mobile LTE works on AWS 1700/2100 but the unlocked new one does not have the two frequencies in LTE. Apparently, that was a wrong info. I am going to move to DC and hopefully my dev. new one will work on T-mobile LTE in DC.
Be Vegan, Make Peace ＼(^o^)／
Because it's radio supports these extra bands, will there be any software incompatibility between the Dev edition and the AT&T one? I'm trying to find the proper forum for Dev edition development!
Is the Developer edition basically an AT&T One with extra bands enabled? Are the AT&T and Dev editions different model numbers? I have so many questions, but so much excitement...
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Finally someone can give me a sensible answer! :thumbup:I read from another thread that T-mobile LTE works on AWS 1700/2100 but the unlocked new one does not have the two frequencies in LTE. Apparently, that was a wrong info. I am going to move to DC and hopefully my dev. new one will work on T-mobile LTE in DC.
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T-Mobile's LTE frequency is on Band 4, so as far as using the Developers Edition on T-Mobile USA, you will certainly get LTE as long as T-Mobile has it running in the area, and default to 3G/HSPA+ since it does support PCS band (1900 MHz), albeit this coverage may suffer as the phone is missing the AWS band for UMTS.
gridlock489 said:
Because it's radio supports these extra bands, will there be any software incompatibility between the Dev edition and the AT&T one? I'm trying to find the proper forum for Dev edition development!
Is the Developer edition basically an AT&T One with extra bands enabled? Are the AT&T and Dev editions different model numbers? I have so many questions, but so much excitement...
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Their device identifier code will certainly be different, so HTC will make sure you can't run the Developer Edition's RUU for the AT&T phone. As far as custom ROM is concerned, I don't see why you can't use the same ROM as long as it's not touching any other partition other than the /system.
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T-Mobile's LTE frequency is on Band 4, so as far as using the Developers Edition on T-Mobile USA, you will certainly get LTE as long as T-Mobile has it running in the area, and default to 3G/HSPA+ since it does support PCS band (1900 MHz), albeit this coverage may suffer as the phone is missing the AWS band for UMTS.
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Yes... I hope I won't travel around next year and will stay in DC most of the time. I am currently using Straight Talk with my Droid DNA, and it has good coverage, hspa+ most of the time. But Straight Talk does not have LTE. I am so ready to feel the speed of LTE! But it seems like if I would be outside of DC, my LTE experience will drop to 2G.... Anyway, at least I have the freedom to change back to Straight Talk if I have to.
Be Vegan, Make Peace ＼(^o^)／
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Yes... I hope I won't travel around next year and will stay in DC most of the time. I am currently using Straight Talk with my Droid DNA, and it has good coverage, hspa+ most of the time. But Straight Talk does not have LTE. I am so ready to feel the speed of LTE! But it seems like if I would be outside of DC, my LTE experience will drop to 2G.... Anyway, at least I have the freedom to change back to Straight Talk if I have to.
Be Vegan, Make Peace ＼(^o^)／
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I had straight talk before I went to att. The difference is mind blowing. Even on just h+ it blows straight talk out of the water 3 fold. I don't regret leaving straight talk one bit
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I can't find a for sure answer about this, but dual sim is make or break for me. In interested in the current bogo T-Mobile is offering. We use the kickback feature on lines in our dual sim phones and only use the data on the free lines we have so we get $10/mo back using a dual sim phone.
There's your answer:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3734810
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ChazzMatt said:
There's your answer:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3734810
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That thread is not talking about if the T-Mobile version of this phone has dual SIM. It's saying the India version isn't working on T-Mobile.
mattwaugh7 said:
That thread is not talking about if the T-Mobile version of this phone has dual SIM. It's saying the India version isn't working on T-Mobile.
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T-Mobile USA sells the regular V30+, not the DS dual SIM model.
The only dual SIM LG V30/V30+ is the H930DS (which is a V30+).
No North American carrier has the dual SIM model. Even the open market LG US998 V30+ is not dual SIM.
I assumed you meant you wanted to buy the H930DS (V30+) variant to use on T-Mobile USA -- which is what those other people tried to do.
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Further to what ChazzMatt said, maybe this will help explain it:
Per gsmarena:
T-mobile model:
3G bands HSDPA 850 / 1700(AWS) / 1900 / 2100
4G bands LTE band 1(2100), 2(1900), 3(1800), 4(1700/2100), 5(850), 7(2600), 12(700), 20(800), 28(700), 29(700), 40(2300), 41(2500), 66(1700/2100), 71(600)
DS models (no Band 2*, AWS Band 4*, Band 5 (usually AT&T), Band 12*, Band 66*, Band 71*):
3G bands HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100 (no AWS Band 4)
4G bands LTE band 1(2100), 3(1800), 5(850), 7(2600), 8(900), 20(800), 28(700), 38(2600), 39(1900), 40(2300), 41(2500)
*current T-mobile Band usage not available on current DS models (though it could be just as simple as flashing the T-mobile software radio though you would need root/bootloader unlock which the DS models are purported not to have) as the DS models usually do not have Band 66 or Band 71 (these are the bands that T-mobile has expanded their LTE network with currently)
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That thread is not talking about if the T-Mobile version of this phone has dual SIM. It's saying the India version isn't working on T-Mobile.
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Thanks guys! That's a bummer.
US carriers never sell dual SIM phones. They'd rather have you buy two phones
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So I'm going to buy the s9 in about a month after a couple paychecks so I have a lot to think about. First off, I would LOVE to be able to unlock the bootloader. I know qualcomm bootloaders are super locked down these days for some reason even though android is supposed to be an open platform but I'm considering getting the international version. The only problem is I'm on verizon . Do these phones work with CDMA yet? I'm 99% sure they don't but if anyone has given it a try let me know. If I switch to t-mobile can I use it in America? Or do you guys think the bootloader unlock isn't worth it and maybe JUST MAYBE someone will find an exploit? Let me know your thoughts guys, I'm really just trying to consider my options here. Maybe it's time to say "screw you" to verizon, or maybe I should just give up on root and buy a tablet or something to play with. Let me know what y'all think!
Exynos version will not work on your Verizon network. Buy the us unlocked version. But remember verizon wifi calling will not work
I would switch carrier if I were you and go with T-mobile if you they have acceptable coverage in your area. If you really value root and want good adblocker,best sound mod,ability to backup all your apps properly,custom battery icons,bypass stupid manufacturer restrictions and enjoy your device the fullest, go with Exynos.
If Samsung pay, VoLTE and WiFi calling matters a lot to you, go with Snapdragon. But I would still switch to Tmobile in that case.
I had just posted something about the perks of why I went with the SD variant (T-Mobile) S9+ ...here's the link.
Exynos does have their advantages with better Dev support etc, however it is still unclear if the Exynos variant will suffer from carrier aggregation on the US network.
This was a known issue on the Exynos Note 8 having trouble with the LTE, where it could cling onto one strong signal, however it wasn't able to handle the protocol of being able to connect to several signals at the same time.
Check out this post where I went into explaining it a little more...
I am waiting for a confirmation to see if the Exynos S9+ will work 100% on T-Mobile...
Oh and I'd definitely switch to T-Mobile as well. I have one Verizon line left, but the rest is now on TM so I can tell you that in places where I barely had bars with TM, I now have full LTE... TM has the newest infrastructure and they are expanding like crazy... the coverage and speed nowadays are are excellent. You can check out the carrier coverage map here.
Hope that helps...
A very good argument in SD variant's favor! I have S8+ Exynos currently and I do not get over 20Mbps on Tmobile in limited areas I have tested so far(I should say I do not have great coverage where I live, but it is not terrible by any means). I hope S9+ Exynos will not have this issue but I feel it may suffer in same way.
As long as I have WiFi calling and VoLTE, it doesn't bother me too much that the LTE speeds are "capped" for lack of better term on the Exynos version. I considered getting Chinese G9650 with unlockable SD bootloader but looking at the g9550, it doesnt have much support here on XDA and there is not even Oreo out for it still!! The dual SIM is helpful when I travel internationally, so really hoping Exynos gets VoLTE, WiFi calling and good LTE speeds on T-mobile!
I am interesting in buying an Exynos S9+ for use on Verizon. I dont see band 13 listed as supported. Isn't B13 one of the more popular ones for Verizon?
LTE Bands: FDD: B1(2100), B2(1900), B3(1800), B4(AWS), B5(850), B7(2600), B8(900), B17(700), B20(800), B28(700), B32(1500), B66(AWS- 3) | TDD: B38(2600), B39(1900), B40(2300), B41(2500)
iunlock said:
I had just posted something about the perks of why I went with the SD variant (T-Mobile) S9+ ...here's the link.
Exynos does have their advantages with better Dev support etc, however it is still unclear if the Exynos variant will suffer from carrier aggregation on the US network.
This was a known issue on the Exynos Note 8 having trouble with the LTE, where it could cling onto one strong signal, however it wasn't able to handle the protocol of being able to connect to several signals at the same time.
Check out this post where I went into explaining it a little more...
I am waiting for a confirmation to see if the Exynos S9+ will work 100% on T-Mobile...
Oh and I'd definitely switch to T-Mobile as well. I have one Verizon line left, but the rest is now on TM so I can tell you that in places where I barely had bars with TM, I now have full LTE... TM has the newest infrastructure and they are expanding like crazy... the coverage and speed nowadays are are excellent. You can check out the carrier coverage map here.
Hope that helps...
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Thanks for the detailed reply and sources! That helps me a lot. I'll probably switch to T-Mobile sometime for sure. I think I'll just go with the US unlocked since Samsung will probably get root anyways, and I played with the s9 a bit and like the ROM enough. The bands we use in US are a bit different and people have reported a lot of problems, so since I spend 95% of my time doing normal stuff on my phone I'll not ruin that 95% for the sake of the 5% of the time I'm tinkering.
Also on the T-Mobile coverage you're right! Seems like they've really been expanding their coverage. A couple years ago me and my brother rode from NC to MS and he had a Galaxy tab on T-Mobile LTE and it was blistering fast the whole ride there. Pretty stout if I do say so myself!
I like you would prefer the unlocked international version for the unlocked bootloader and potential to mod. I don't even have the CDMA network restriction as I'm on AT&T. Even still I went with the US unlocked. I got it super cheap with student discount. I think I paid 700 for a brand new phone, epic these days considering so many are costing over 1000. Anyway back to the point, I got the US snap variant and I have no issues at all. This thing is absolutely awesome, I don't have one single complaint about it and with Nova launcher is feels even nicer imo. US unlocked is a good choice even if you didn't have to get it for the CDMA compatibly
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There are pros and cons to owning both variants...
Do your due diligence and consider your own use cases for your phone.
Do you use Samsung Pay?
Do you care about having a warranty?
Do you like to run custom ROMs?
Do you want fast LTE speeds?
Based on these answers and many more, you can determine which model is best for you!
Good luck!
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So I'm going to buy the s9 in about a month after a couple paychecks so I have a lot to think about. First off, I would LOVE to be able to unlock the bootloader. I know qualcomm bootloaders are super locked down these days for some reason even though android is supposed to be an open platform but I'm considering getting the international version. The only problem is I'm on verizon . Do these phones work with CDMA yet? I'm 99% sure they don't but if anyone has given it a try let me know. If I switch to t-mobile can I use it in America? Or do you guys think the bootloader unlock isn't worth it and maybe JUST MAYBE someone will find an exploit? Let me know your thoughts guys, I'm really just trying to consider my options here. Maybe it's time to say "screw you" to verizon, or maybe I should just give up on root and buy a tablet or something to play with. Let me know what y'all think!
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The SM-G9650 Hong Kong variant has the Snapdragon 945 Chipset with an unlocked bootloader. It looks to be compatible with Verizon 4G LTE Bands 2, 4 and 13. I know Samsung Pay works in the US but not sure yet if it will support voLTE or WiFi Calling, that would also depend on your carrier. Here's the band compatibility for that particular model.
2G bands GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900 - SIM 1 & SIM 2
3G bands HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1700(AWS) / 1900 / 2100
4G bands LTE 2100 (B1), 1900 (B2), 1800 (B3), 1700/2100 (B4), 850 (B5), 2600 (B7), 900 (B8), 700 (B12), 700 (B13), 700 (B17), 800 (B18), 800 (B19), 800 (B20), 1900 (B25), 850 (B26), 700 (B28), 1700/2100 (B66) TD-LTE 2000 (B34), TD-LTE 2600 (B38), TD-LTE1900 (B39), TD-LTE2300 (B40), TD-LTE2500 (B41)
HNIC215 said:
There are pros and cons to owning both variants...
Do your due diligence and consider your own use cases for your phone.
Do you use Samsung Pay?
Do you care about having a warranty?
Do you like to run custom ROMs?
Do you want fast LTE speeds?
Based on these answers and many more, you can determine which model is best for you!
Good luck!
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Depending on where you buy from, you can get warranty support for Exynos.
I can confirm that Band 71(the newest band that Tmobile is flooding the USA with) works great on the US unlocked version. If you are even thinking about going with T-Mobile, get the Snapdragon. Although I can't personally confirm this, I've heard that Band 71 will not work with the Exynos phone. If someone could confirm this, that would be great.
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Depending on where you buy from, you can get warranty support for Exynos.
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True...
If I'm not mistaken though, you would still have to ship it overseas for repairs.
Is there a US Store that offers domestic warranty coverage for international Samsung phones?
No domestic stores in US offer warranty on Exynos versions. And I am 99.99% sure Exynos does not have band 71 for T-mobile (600MHz).
Band 12,2, and 4 should be sufficient for most people I think until 600MHz is widely available.
FYI clove.uk just updated their S9+ buying options, you can now get the dual SIM Exynos model for an additional ~$20, but I think it comes with an EU plug so you'll probably have to buy another adapter.
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If I'm not mistaken though, you would still have to ship it overseas for repairs.
Is there a US Store that offers domestic warranty coverage for international Samsung phones?
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Yeah you would most likely have to ship to them. IDK if there are any domestic options.
Pay
varcor said:
The SM-G9650 Hong Kong variant has the Snapdragon 945 Chipset with an unlocked bootloader. It looks to be compatible with Verizon 4G LTE Bands 2, 4 and 13. I know Samsung Pay works in the US but not sure yet if it will support voLTE or WiFi Calling, that would also depend on your carrier. Here's the band compatibility for that particular model.
2G bands GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900 - SIM 1 & SIM 2
3G bands HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1700(AWS) / 1900 / 2100
4G bands LTE 2100 (B1), 1900 (B2), 1800 (B3), 1700/2100 (B4), 850 (B5), 2600 (B7), 900 (B8), 700 (B12), 700 (B13), 700 (B17), 800 (B18), 800 (B19), 800 (B20), 1900 (B25), 850 (B26), 700 (B28), 1700/2100 (B66) TD-LTE 2000 (B34), TD-LTE 2600 (B38), TD-LTE1900 (B39), TD-LTE2300 (B40), TD-LTE2500 (B41)
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i have this model, sm-g9650, and can confirm it works on both verizon and tmobile dual sim, though it is a bit tricky to get it to initially connect to both at the same time and verizon NEEDS to be in slot 1 for both to connect (idk). but how are you getting samsung pay to work? when i had verizon in slot 1 it wouldnt even open the app, i put tmobile in slot 1 and was able to setup the app but when i go to add a card, it just continuously loads after i enter card number.
Have you confirmed your bank accepts payments through Samsung Pay? Before my bank accepted Samsung Pay I had the same setup problem your experiencing. Also make sure you have the most recent Samsung Pay update - 66 Mb.
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Have you confirmed your bank accepts payments through Samsung Pay? Before my bank accepted Samsung Pay I had the same setup problem your experiencing. Also make sure you have the most recent Samsung Pay update - 66 Mb.
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yeah i made sure to redownload it to be sure, and im positive my bank does, i had all the same cards on samsung pay on my g965U US model working perfect.
You stated the app wouldn't load with your Verizon SIM in slot 1. I don't see how any SIM or Slot # is relevant to accessing or downloading the Samsung Pay app. I would try the following.
1 Uninstall Samsung Pay
2 Remove SIM cards
3 Connect via Wifi
4 Download Samsung Pay via Wifi
5 Reinstall app
I just reinstalled the app with no glitches. I uninstalled it a few months back because I found Debit Card transactions are less hassle than NFC transactions. To me the only situation where NFC makes sense is if I wasn't carrying a Debit Card, which isn't very often. Hope this works for you!
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I'm guessing your device has the Exynos Chipset. Mine is the Hong Kong variant with Snapdragon. If that's the case you're not alone, I've read other posts where Exynos and Samsung Pay have compatibility issues.
I got it here in USA. Waiting for rooting!!!
cline2 said:
I got it here in USA. Waiting for rooting!!!
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How did you get the SM-G973F/DS in USA?! I'm in the same boat, but thought they were internationally region locked, did you have someone make a call in the country you got it from to work properly? Where did you buy it from?
gullyous said:
How did you get the SM-G973F/DS in USA?! I'm in the same boat, but thought they were internationally region locked, did you have someone make a call in the country you got it from to work properly? Where did you buy it from?
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Bought it from eBay.
https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https://www.ebay.com/ulk/itm/192828272845
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Bought it from eBay.
https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https://www.ebay.com/ulk/itm/192828272845
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Its the F variant right? In his posting it states:
Chipset Exynos 9820 Octa (8 nm) - EMEA
Qualcomm SDM855 Snapdragon 855 (7 nm) - USA/LATAM, China
He did ship you the Exynos without region lock?
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Bought it from eBay.
https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https://www.ebay.com/ulk/itm/192828272845
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The SM-G975F/DS is factory unlocked but it looks like it has limited LTE bands to be used on US carriers w/o problems.
The Exynos SM-975N is the one you need to have a global range.
SM-G975F/DS (Dual-SIM Unlocked) Exynos 9820 Asia (India, Singapore)
2G GSM: 850/900/1800/1900
3G UMTS: 850/900/1700/1900/2100
4G FDD LTE: LTE band 1(2100), 2(1900), 3(1800), 4(1700/2100), 5(850), 7(2600), 8(900), 17(700), 20(800), 28(700)
4G TDD LTE: B38(2600), B39(1900), B40(2300), B41(2500)
I've posted last night all S10 possible model configurations:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s10/how-to/s10-model-differences-lte-bands-regions-t3904592
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Its the F variant right? In his posting it states:
Chipset Exynos 9820 Octa (8 nm) - EMEA
Qualcomm SDM855 Snapdragon 855 (7 nm) - USA/LATAM, China
He did ship you the Exynos without region lock?
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Yup exynos. I have bought S8+ exynos from the same eBay seller.
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The SM-G975F/DS is factory unlocked but it looks like it has limited LTE bands to be used on US carriers w/o problems.
The Exynos SM-975N is the one you need to have a global range.
SM-G975F/DS (Dual-SIM Unlocked) Exynos 9820 Asia (India, Singapore)
2G GSM: 850/900/1800/1900
3G UMTS: 850/900/1700/1900/2100
4G FDD LTE: LTE band 1(2100), 2(1900), 3(1800), 4(1700/2100), 5(850), 7(2600), 8(900), 17(700), 20(800), 28(700)
4G TDD LTE: B38(2600), B39(1900), B40(2300), B41(2500)
I've posted last night all S10 possible model configurations:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s10/how-to/s10-model-differences-lte-bands-regions-t3904592
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I am on att it works on my s8+ and will work with new S10+. Haven't inset my sim into S10+ yet.
cline2 said:
I am on att it works on my s8+ and will work with new S10+. Haven't inset my sim into S10+ yet.
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you're right, it should work on AT&T, only the LTE band 30 is missing here but it'll work and that's pretty much it if someone tries to use it on other carriers, like Tmo etc...
mzsquared said:
you're right, it should work on AT&T, only the LTE band 30 is missing here but it'll work, But that's pretty much it if someone tries to use it on other carriers, like Tmo etc...
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I know. I am lucky. ?
cline2 said:
Yup exynos. I have bought S8+ exynos from the same eBay seller.
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Have you played games with the device? Does it get warm when pushed?
Intratech said:
Have you played games with the device? Does it get warm when pushed?
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Haven't set up yet. Just waiting for case and rooting. Don't want to start over after root and format data.
Didn't even think about eBay, thanks for the tip @cline2. Just ordered a S10e exynos from another seller for $697. Paid for the next day shipping and should have it Thurs.
Got my S10e G970F/DS, in the US today, currently working well on Mint Mobile, excited for rooting!
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The SM-G975F/DS is factory unlocked but it looks like it has limited LTE bands to be used on US carriers w/o problems.
The Exynos SM-975N is the one you need to have a global range.
SM-G975F/DS (Dual-SIM Unlocked) Exynos 9820 Asia (India, Singapore)
2G GSM: 850/900/1800/1900
3G UMTS: 850/900/1700/1900/2100
4G FDD LTE: LTE band 1(2100), 2(1900), 3(1800), 4(1700/2100), 5(850), 7(2600), 8(900), 17(700), 20(800), 28(700)
4G TDD LTE: B38(2600), B39(1900), B40(2300), B41(2500)
I've posted last night all S10 possible model configurations:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s10/how-to/s10-model-differences-lte-bands-regions-t3904592
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Where do you see the LTE Band coverage? I've clicked on that link and there's no information on LTE Bands.. might be because I'm viewing it on mobile. Are you stating that the G975 F/DS does not support band 12/66 like every eBay seller claims it does?
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Where do you see the LTE Band coverage? I've clicked on that link and there's no information on LTE Bands.. might be because I'm viewing it on mobile. Are you stating that the G975 F/DS does not support band 12/66 like every eBay seller claims it does?
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it's all there
https://www.techwalls.com/samsung-galaxy-s10-model-number-sm-g970-g973-g975-g977-differences/
and when you open that link you'll see 3 more links for 10e, 10 and 10+ with listed model variations/ltebands,etc...
G975F/Ds :
SM-G975F/DS (Dual-SIM Unlocked) Exynos 9820 Asia (India, Singapore)
2G GSM: 850/900/1800/1900
3G UMTS: 850/900/1700/1900/2100
4G FDD LTE: LTE band 1(2100), 2(1900), 3(1800), 4(1700/2100), 5(850), 7(2600), 8(900), 17(700), 20(800), 28(700)
4G TDD LTE: B38(2600), B39(1900), B40(2300), B41(2500
Exynos 'N' has 12 , then all UK exynos models have 12 and 66 but aren't listed as F/DS but rather as "hybrid sim" F only, I guess that counts as a DS but isn't specified that way.
mzsquared said:
it's all there
https://www.techwalls.com/samsung-galaxy-s10-model-number-sm-g970-g973-g975-g977-differences/
and when you open that link you'll see 3 more links for 10e, 10 and 10+ with listed model variations/ltebands,etc...
G975F/Ds :
SM-G975F/DS (Dual-SIM Unlocked) Exynos 9820 Asia (India, Singapore)
2G GSM: 850/900/1800/1900
3G UMTS: 850/900/1700/1900/2100
4G FDD LTE: LTE band 1(2100), 2(1900), 3(1800), 4(1700/2100), 5(850), 7(2600), 8(900), 17(700), 20(800), 28(700)
4G TDD LTE: B38(2600), B39(1900), B40(2300), B41(2500
Exynos 'N' has 12 , then all UK exynos models have 12 and 66 but aren't listed as F/DS but rather as "hybrid sim" F only, I guess that counts as a DS but isn't specified that way.
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Damn, I'd be curious to see how this information was amassed.. either way, I'm hoping that the Exynos version that I'm getting is the UK version.. it's coming from a seller in Miami so I'm gonna say it's not lol - most likely from South East Asia.
cline2 said:
Yup exynos. I have bought S8+ exynos from the same eBay seller.
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The S10+ Includes a Clear Cover??
cline2 said:
I got it here in USA. Waiting for rooting!!!
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I root S10+ Model G975F
SAMER-SB said:
I root S10+ Model G975F
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I am still way for 100% working for safety net pass
Robert Smali said:
The S10+ Includes a Clear Cover??
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Yes it is. For protect screen. Just plastic cover.