I don't quite get the idea how they are managing their versioning.
currently as we speak
EN - 2.3.2.7
CH - 2.0.17.1
in development terms the english version is supposed to be a much newer release in comparision because the minor version number (second digit) is already progressed to 2.3
unfortunately i can't seem to find any good changelog or any sort of information regarding the differences and which version is newer or more sophisticated. is there anyone who can shed some light into the dark?
goes like this:
CN branch has 2 sub-branches:
1. weeklies
2. monthlies - stable releases
the US one has 2 as well:
1. closed beta - when available
2. release stage - when its ready
now ... it starts to get interesting:
weeklies are piling up, until there's enough to push it into a monthly/stable one.
after a while, usually after some 2/3 stable CN releases, they getting into the US beta stage, tested on a closed group, and then the stable US gets released.
so ....
weeklies for the brave for the CN, monthlies for the not so brave CN users, closed group of intl users when it arrives, and finally, we all getting the intl steady.
usually the intl steady goes once per 3~4 months.
Actually I think they use a bigger number in International/EN version so user cannot downgrade to CN version... :silly:
Basically, EN version has Strava support while CN version has some features that only work in China, like MiHome and AliPay integration, but also some cool features like voice cue (only in Chinese). This nice features usually appear first in CN version, then eventually go to EN version after a few months.
1immortal said:
goes like this:
CN branch has 2 sub-branches:
1. weeklies
2. monthlies - stable releases
the US one has 2 as well:
1. closed beta - when available
2. release stage - when its ready
now ... it starts to get interesting:
weeklies are piling up, until there's enough to push it into a monthly/stable one.
after a while, usually after some 2/3 stable CN releases, they getting into the US beta stage, tested on a closed group, and then the stable US gets released.
so ....
weeklies for the brave for the CN, monthlies for the not so brave CN users, closed group of intl users when it arrives, and finally, we all getting the intl steady.
usually the intl steady goes once per 3~4 months.
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still does not explain the version numbers....
basically CN will always be newer, even though he version numbering is lower...
when i check out custom OS and they list they run on 2.0.17.1, while eng is on 2.3.2.7 it's really hard to figure out which version is actually the newer one...
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release date Oreo stable rom for le max 2
Rbp2006 said:
release date Oreo stable rom for le max 2
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Heyyo, when you become a software developer and release it
But seriously. There's only I believe three community developers even working on Oreo for the LeEco Le Max 2... Compared to hundreds of people who work at Google.
It's impossible to get a true ETA unless you're a clairvoyant who can see into the future.
So... ETA is "when it's done." It will be worth the wait and thus far progress has been coming along and in fact I'm writing this from the experimental OmniROM 8.0 Oreo builds but stable release will be when the community feels it is stable
Rbp2006 said:
release date Oreo stable rom for le max 2
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ROMs? Some are under dev right now. The further removed from 6 you get, the more likely that they will be less stable.
Android OEM? Probably never. You're asking for 8 and LeEco's Nougat train hasn't even left station yet, with poor prospects it even will.
Hey I just heard from digit.in that xiaomi is rolling MIUI 9.5 based on Android 7.0 to 30 of it's devices including our beloved redmi 3s series.If nothing went wrong, it would be released within few days.I think we can expect some more roms for our devices now. Cheers:laugh:
Yeah it really must be truth. Stable 7.0 without testing in dev builds.
Here it is. As you see still 6.0 and yeah, still almost year old security patch.
http://bigota.d.miui.com/V9.5.1.0.MALMIFA/miui_HM3SGlobal_V9.5.1.0.MALMIFA_4cc6983736_6.0.zip
All Hail To Xiaomi For this.. ??
Well that's what they said
no 7.0 for Redmi 3s!
MIUI 9 Global Stable ROM V9.5.1.0.MALMIFA based on Android 6 (Marshmallow) has rolled out to public users.
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F__k Xiaomi
Was my first Xiaomi, and now is my last!!!!
Never never Xiaomi again!!
Guys they sell great value for money products.. u can always change the software but what matters is the hardware.
Take the example of leco le max 2 it has snapdragon 820 at a price range of 10500 at banggoods, no one can match.. To its performance per dollar ?..
But still 6.1
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I am cool with my phone and thank xiaomi because of it selling so many phones we have got such a great community on xda..
I have my pixel but still use my redmi 3s as it being my first phone.
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Someone actually know when would android nougat be available on this device?
its a shame, that they not even update the security patch level: still from 04/2017!!!
Otherwise:
i love MIUI - i don't need Nougat/Oreo...
everything work perfekt for me. But Performance and Akku is better in LOS and co...
yup I really hate xiaomi for not providing at least one android upgrade and for this ancient security patch. the moderators on miui forum are very rude one word against xiaomi and baaaam instant ban. They are bootlickers of xiaomi. I also hate ugly round green coloured notification toggles. and with every stable update new bloatwares and no option to remove them and also plenty full of ads
Never
HardlyRock said:
Someone actually know when would android nougat be available on this device?
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never
starboyvivek said:
Hey I just heard from digit.in that xiaomi is rolling MIUI 9.5 based on Android 7.0 to 30 of it's devices including our beloved redmi 3s series.If nothing went wrong, it would be released within few days.I think we can expect some more roms for our devices now. Cheers:laugh:
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Xiaomi is fooling us by upadting MIUI version. They are not updating Android version.
To everyone complaining about miui. It's true that it's a bad OS but not ****ty. As a matter of fact, MIUI is far more stable than any of the custom ROMs available. Xiaomi instead of bumping the android version from marshmallow, keeps increasing the stability with marshmallow which isn't bad. And those suffering from bloatware, use modded miui like Xiaomi.eu or miuipro.
Official MIUI with Android 7.0 or higher will NEVER come to the 3S. Just flash official LineagOS 14.1, is as stable as the stock ROM, you'll have decent notifications and no bloatware.
The MIUI update 9.5.1 was actually pulled back and made nightly due to critical bugs.
http://en.miui.com/thread-2160466-1-1.html
The update was on Android 6.0.1 (obviously) and with April Security patch ( 2017 not 2018 )
So in short use Custom ROMs and be happy with the minimal bugs and in return get solid performance and stability.
My recommendations : crDroid 3.8.5 OFFICIAL
https://forum.xda-developers.com/xiaomi-redmi-3s/development/rom-crdroid-android-v3-8-t3694074
Hi, I was wondering for people who have own various Xiaomi phones. How are they on OS updates and Security updates?
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Hi, I was wondering for people who have own various Xiaomi phones. How are they on OS updates and Security updates?
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They have weekly ROM updates for those who want to opt-in to the developer builds.
Stable builds are at their own discretion.
They're not amazing, but better than many.
Security updates is another story. They're a bit slow with them, though I think that varies per device (Redmi is budget so gets low priority).
Poco is a new brand trying to go global though, so hopefully it's better than other devices (not sure how security updates are on the flagship Mi series)
After one or two months most of the people will shift to some or the other custom rom. So there won't be any problem with the security updates and normal OS upgrades. My Mi3 was released with KitKat now it's running Android Pie
rahulkamma14 said:
After one or two months most of the people will shift to some or the other custom rom. So there won't be any problem with the security updates and normal OS upgrades. My Mi3 was released with KitKat now it's running Android Pie
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I assume he's asking about *Xiaomi* updates, the official ROM. Of course you can just install custom ROM's to get latest updates unofficially - but that makes the question moot.
HiddenSanctum said:
Hi, I was wondering for people who have own various Xiaomi phones. How are they on OS updates and Security updates?
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Beta ROM updates are very fast both security n OS updates.
Stable updates within the same OS version are faster too. But OS upgrade need a bit waiting time as OS integrating to MIUI takes time.
Poco I expect faster updates due to treble support.
FYI:
Mix 2S of xiaomi already has Android 9 beta update.
very bad on stock roms stuck to old OS builds for mid range phones but on flagships very fast like blyat cyka rush b
I have used Redmi 2, Redmi 2 Prime, Redmi Note 3/4/5, Redmi 3S/prime and only Redmi 2 and Redmi Note 3 as my daily driver.
Those things taught the following:
Don't except updates from Xiaomi, not even security patches, although they have started providing patches on Note series but they are always late, so patches may arrive but not when you expect them.
You may not get the latest features even if you have the latest android version on your MIUI, why? because Xiaomi wants to provide same features to all the phones so that phones running on Kitkat will have the same feature as phone running on Oreo, this makes their software development easy, that means that the feature that you are using doesn't have native support and may be buggy and battery hogging.
There are two channels in MIUI - Beta Channel and StableChannel. Stable channel update is provided every 4-5 months or whenever they feel like or to fix a very important bug. Beta channel was previously bimonthly but I have heard that now, it's changed. Due to this, they don't fix bugs properly and instead introduce more bugs in the system
Their update size are generally 500MB-1.5GB but the fixes are things like: Calender icon changed, Button of some subforum in MIUI forum app changed, New Ringtones and every useless things, then in the end *Bug Fixes* but they don't mention which one. Out of every 10 beta updates only 1 or 2 updates are useful while others are just formality.
Now, note this, other companies give update to keep your phone running for longer amount of time. Xiaomi thinks different, they will wreck your device with every update they provide.
When I had Redmi Note 3, Beta channel was more better and more stable than the Stable channel, I am not lying go check the forums.
There is no major change in MIUI 7-9 the first major change I saw was MIUI6 - MIUI 7 after that all changes were just useless and they everytime just change notification shade style.
MIUI 10 - Notification shade now looks like a copy of iPhone and it's really very cheap act by Xiaomi, although their App switcher is somewhat cool.
Custom ROM:
Xiaomi phones works best with stock android and indeed has the best development support. But there are few catches.
Not all features work in custom ROM, you will have to leave one or two things if you want to use custom ROM.
The famous and best developers will not port VOLTE if their cell providers don't provide it
Camera (on Xiaomi phones) doesn't works well on custom ROMS.
Xiaomi does provide kernel but they don't provide a lot of proprietary codes and binaries that ensures smooth functioning of phones.
Don't buy the phone if you want to get updates unless it's Chinese, they do care about Chinese people unlike their global counterpart, or those people who develop global roms are arseheads.
All the above points can be confirmed on MIUI forums and XDA, if anyone says that even one of the point(s) is wrong, he is probably new in Xiaomi's world.
Redmi is the cheap line and they get late updates and bugs are not fixed properly. Mi is the expensive line of Xiaomi so they get proper update in first few months and after that they are also neglected. Since Poco is also a cheap but is a flagship, they will get good number of updates and fixes for few months then they will announce another phone and Poco will be neglected, and people who are saying that Poco has a different team may be wrong, I don't think Xioami will divide the team because internally it uses the same MIUI as others only launcher is different. For world Poco is a brand, for Xiaomi it's yet another phone.
Depends. My Mi3 got updated from kitkat to Marshmallow while my mi tab 1 was still stuck at kitkat with such a laggy interface until I flashed nougat roms with shiels blobs which made the tab as smooth as my oneplus 3. So MIUI sucks and they don't update android versions when they update their miui version. So buy a phone which has strong custom rom support. (Xiaomi models that are sold in India have strong dev support from what I have seen)
Thanks everyone for the info. That gives me a good idea.
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blacklixt22 said:
very bad on stock roms stuck to old OS builds for mid range phones but on flagships very fast like blyat cyka rush b
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Aye Aye Kurwa :laugh:
you forgot p90
Sandepp said:
Depends. My Mi3 got updated from kitkat to Marshmallow while my mi tab 1 was still stuck at kitkat with such a laggy interface until I flashed nougat roms with shiels blobs which made the tab as smooth as my oneplus 3. So MIUI sucks and they don't update android versions when they update their miui version. So buy a phone which has strong custom rom support. (Xiaomi models that are sold in India have strong dev support from what I have seen)
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Huh? You say it sucks but your Mi 3 got two major updates. How does that suck?
As for tablet, well it's a tablet. Android tablets were always poor selling and are now completely dead anyway (Chrome OS tablets are the future), can't compare phones to tablets.
Will the honor 9 get EMUI 9? Various reports differ.
They previously said honor 9 will get pie in a second wave.
First wave, for honor 10 / P20 and some others, is now advertised to be coming this weekend, at least for chinese firmwares.
I'd predict q1 of 2019
Try this link? https://consumer.huawei.com/en/support/fut/
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At least in Germany, maybe more european regions, a Beta is starting today, called DE-Honor9-EMUI9-FUT.
Seems to be limited to 200 users.
Same in Italy with a different name
So, the 200 slots for the German project are filled, now i am curious how this will work out.
Wonder if this is where we start to see project treble being used by honor on the 9
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Wonder if this is where we start to see project treble being used by honor on the 9
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So far I know, treble was introduced with Android 8.0 (Emui 8) on this device.
Treble is being used. That's how I actually go a security update in the month it was issued. (377 on the 28th).
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At least in Germany, maybe more european regions, a Beta is starting today, called DE-Honor9-EMUI9-FUT.
Seems to be limited to 200 users.
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Is the image available somwere and is it possible to install without being a member of the beta group?
well I'm #2 in BETA-Slot and I'm still on "pending", didn't receive beta update yet.
I too had a very early slot (<10) in the beta-project, but right now i cannot even see it in "avaiable projects" anymore, which is a bit strange.
in what firmware you were before entering the beta program? i´m on 377 and the beta doesn´t appear to me.
I was on 377 too ... and unluckily, i still am.
The FR friendly user test also just disappeared from the Beta app. Currently 26 participants so I thought I would be in today
As for me, the (German) Beta still shows in the app, also the message that I applied and it's now on waiting for approval... which will probably never gonna happen, as it says, the 200 slots are already full.
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well I'm #2 in BETA-Slot and I'm still on "pending", didn't receive beta update yet.
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it is the same for me still pending
I'm curious to see if this device and devices which got upgraded to Treble by Huawei will receive more updates than usual (2 major versions on high end/1 version in midrange-low end). If they will continue to follow the old trend, EMUI9 with Android 9 is the last major version upgrade this device will see from Huawei. After the bootloader fiasco they should support at least another major version, to make up for the inconvenience, but we are talking about a chinese money making machine, which only cares about money, so will see.
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... (2 major versions on high end/1 version in midrange-low end). ..
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Considering the Honor 9 being a midrange product, i assume, the now coming second major update already is the "benefit" of project treble. I doubt a third one will reach us, but i would not mind being wrong on that point.
I am reaching out to you all in the Samsung community when the s21 snow cone beta will drop I never downloaded a Android beta before so full instructions would be nice and I have always downloaded iOS betas only for my iPods but never Androids like I said before that's why I'm reaching out to you guys in the s21 community thanks for the help and support explain to me how it's done
enrolling in the beta program usually starts near the end of the year... you still have time to enjoy android 11
How would i enroll for it and if I do get approved how Will I know to download it or where to go to download it