Hello everyone.
I own pro version of mate 10 and when i play games on it (like PubG and Modern combat 5)on very high settings it start Lagging constantly and FPS drops quickly i don't know why is this happening on high end device..If someone know how to handle this situation please tell me..
Thank You.
Sardar0131 said:
Hello everyone.
I own pro version of mate 10 and when i play games on it (like PubG and Modern combat 5)on very high settings it start Lagging constantly and FPS drops quickly i don't know why is this happening on high end device..If someone know how to handle this situation please tell me..
Thank You.
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Buy another phone, not Huawei their Kirin processors are not good. They somehow perform well in benchmarks but they are a lot worse in real life than snapdragon or exynos (and of course apple)
I benchmarked many games... Maximum 10 min of gaming then there is thermal throttling because it gets too hot. Then fps drops 1/3 at least.
Just tested pubg on HDR setting and anti aliasing enabled. It starts with 40fps but after 5 min drops to 15-25fps and also lags, unplayable.
Even normal games with not so good graphics get fps drops after 10-15min like Sonic. Common Huawei, my sister is playing Sonic on a 250€ Samsung A5 2017
Look at the screenshots, it starts with 40fps but many lags and frame drops. After a couple minutes it drops to constant 20fps. The other shows CPU usage but that is not working obviously. Somehow it gets an average of 30fps but that's bs. It is not playable.
Yeah.. Same with me when i switch to HD settings of pubG it lags little bit.. But when i switch on HDR it become unplayable. I will upgrade to one plus soon.
Thanks
if you got root then disable the power genius app and restart. this app slows phone down to prevent overheat. i tested this with pubg and asphalt 8 at 60fps. constant 60 FPS even after 30 mins of gaming. with HDR i get constant 40-45.
PS: the phone will get warm because of 12 GPU cores so be in a cool room while playing.
same here. using m10p and lagging on PubG even on High settings. But it improved on the latest firmware (BLA-L29 C636 B138)
PUBG lagg on Mate 10 Pro not because of Kirin. It laggs because PUBG is not optimized game at all. Same for people that play PUBG throu their desktop computers. I watched my friend playing PUBG on his 2k PC and still gettin' FPS dropped and lagg. Although Mate gets hot after 10 till 20 minutes of gaming.
Interesting to read this, I have a Note 8 atm and I play a lot of PUBG, I'm about to trade my Note 8 in for a Mate 10 Pro (Don't judge) as I'm a little bored of my phone now and annoyed of the poor battery life and awful mono speaker. The Mate 10 Pro ticks more boxes for what I require, so I'm hoping a software update will fix the FPS.
I don't play PubG but I do however play the recently released Asphalt 9 which as far as I know is pretty intensive and get minimal heat and it runs smooth for well over a hour, I don't notice any FPS drop, I haven't checked statistically what it's running at while playing but if the drop was severe then I'd definitely notice it
TheInfiniteAndroid said:
I don't play PubG but I do however play the recently released Asphalt 9 which as far as I know is pretty intensive and get minimal heat and it runs smooth for well over a hour, I don't notice any FPS drop, I haven't checked statistically what it's running at while playing but if the drop was severe then I'd definitely notice it
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Thanks for this info, sounds like I should expect similar to what I get at the moment then, maybe an improvement once the update comes out to boost the GPU.
I used to play Shadow Fight 3. Till the release of update 142 it worked flawlessly,even on longer playing sessions....then,dunno what brains of Huawei did,it became unplayable.
troublecro said:
I used to play Shadow Fight 3. Till the release of update 142 it worked flawlessly....then,dunno what brains of Huawei did,it became unplayable.
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Sounds to me that they like bringing out these new features, meaning these new features are "let's break something that worked perfectly before"...that's the gist I've got off these forums.....I'm hoping I'm not going to regret my decision now I've ordered the Mate 10 Pro
Exactly. That was my thought too.
But I'm keeping it cuz of job and unrivaled battery life. As a business phone it's flawless.
maverick1103 said:
Interesting to read this, I have a Note 8 atm and I play a lot of PUBG, I'm about to trade my Note 8 in for a Mate 10 Pro (Don't judge) as I'm a little bored of my phone now and annoyed of the poor battery life and awful mono speaker. The Mate 10 Pro ticks more boxes for what I require, so I'm hoping a software update will fix the FPS.
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Yes, they will release GPU Turbo for Boost in GPU performance in Games
troublecro said:
Exactly. That was my thought too.
But I'm keeping it cuz of job and unrivaled battery life. As a business phone it's flawless.
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One of the main reason I'm moving to the Mate 10 Pro is for battery life, it'll be nice to have a phone that can last a whole day with heavy use, my last phone that did that was iPhone 6s Plus.
Sardar0131 said:
Yes, they will release GPU Turbo for Boost in GPU performance in Games
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I've read that, hoping it applies to PUBG!
maverick1103 said:
I've read that, hoping it applies to PUBG!
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It does cuz PBUG is their main "selling" point
Fps drop bcause of overheat. the cpu and gpu will reduce the speed when reach certain temp to prevent soc chip die....if u are gamer, use smartphone cooler or buy rog phone
Saadkhalid786 said:
if you got root then disable the power genius app and restart. this app slows phone down to prevent overheat. i tested this with pubg and asphalt 8 at 60fps. constant 60 FPS even after 30 mins of gaming. with HDR i get constant 40-45.
PS: the phone will get warm because of 12 GPU cores so be in a cool room while playing.
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The power genius app, is it an app? Can u elaborate more on this? Need root to do this?
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Since a few people have got the phone already I was wondering what their gaming experience has been like.
With the screen and processor/GPU this may be not just the best gaming phone but perhaps the best portable gaming device out there.
Which games use the Ultra's hardware to the fullest? Are there any Android games with 1080p ?
SG deadzone, Asphalt 7, need for speed, minio rush ..................... Work great, smooth without lag. Visual so reality. Only the sound from the device not good. Better use headset.
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Dead Trigger works like a charm too though im not sure if it is 1080p not that i think anyone can tell
With graphics setting on high, everything is fluid but the 3000mah battery only lasted me about 3hrs of gameplay on low brightness (0%)
and the screen makes gaming awesome too
TDKR (Batman) looks great every time I play.
There are ZU gaming videos on YouTube.
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Whatabout emulators? Does the software home/back icons interfere with the virtual buttons that sometimes get pretty close to the edge of the screen?
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Whatabout emulators? Does the software home/back icons interfere with the virtual buttons that sometimes get pretty close to the edge of the screen?
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I have no idea. Search YouTube for something like "Nexus 4 emulator games". Why the Nexus 4? It has on-screen buttons. Either way, if they don't disappear while gaming and it bothers you, you can choose to wait (if you decide to get the ZU) until the ZU gets root. You'll then be able to quickly toggle the buttons on and off.
Hmm, if you toggle it off, how would you be able to "quit" your apps since the back button is missing? For my current note 2, if the app freezes or something goes funky, I can hit the hardware button and force the device back to the main screen, so I'm not sure how that works for onscreen buttons since I've never owned a device with no home button.
I confirm game performance are sick. There is no lag at all.
Do you remember that part on "Iron man" when on first startup there is lag (you know that moment). Here on Xperia Z Ultra there is no lag at all....I guess adreno 330 is good gpu.
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Hmm, if you toggle it off, how would you be able to "quit" your apps since the back button is missing? For my current note 2, if the app freezes or something goes funky, I can hit the hardware button and force the device back to the main screen, so I'm not sure how that works for onscreen buttons since I've never owned a device with no home button.
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CM10.1 has a feature that's called "Expanded desktop" which hides the status and navbar. You can enable/disable this by pressing and holding the power button (like you do when you want to power off/reboot your phone), and you'll get the option there. This is available system wide, so it's always an option to enable them again no matter where you are (games etc.). That's a custom ROM though, and i'm sure there is a similar mod for the Xposed framework (100% speculation), so you don't have to flash a ROM, but being rooted will be enough.
Ah thanks for the clarification. I've always been weary of custom roms due to bugs (camera not working, GPS feature broke, can't make calls, etc) but that's for another discussion.
What are the best emulators to use?
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Depends which system you're emulating. Which ones you have in mind
most games are actually 1080p already smooth even for Adreno 320, you can tell by taking a screenshots and having a look at the pixels
- Shadowgun deadzone, 1080p + AA, 60fps on Adreno 320
- Modern Combat 4, 1080p, 60fps on Adreno 320
- Temple Run 2, 1080p, 60fps on Adreno 320
- Asphalt 7, 1080p, 60fps on Adreno 320
- Need for Speed Most wanted, 1080p, 60fps on Adreno 320
- FrontLine commando, D-Day, 1080p, very smooth on Adreno 320
- Fast and Furious 6, 1080p, very smooth on Adreno 320
- Ripetide GP 2, scalable from ingame options, variable smoothness on Adreno 320
- Beach buggy blitz, scalable from ingame options, variable smoothness on Adreno 320
- Iron Man 3 runs in sub 1080p, like 720p scaled up, variable smoothness on Adreno 320
- Real Reacing 3 sub 1080p as well, variable to average smoothness on Adreno 320
on Adreno 320 all the above games run liquid smooth already with the exception of Beach buggy blitz, Ripetidge GP2, IronMan 3 and Real Racing which seems to jump between 20fps and 60fps, these are the best games to test the new powers of Adreno 330
lots of info and pixel screenshots from my posts here
HTC One, 3D Games Performance Report Part III>> (Asphalt 7, Real Racing 3, Fast and Furious 6)
HTC One, 3D Games Performance Report Part II>> (Dead Trigger, Modern Combat 4, Need for Speed Most Wanted)
HTC One, 3D Games Performance Report Part I>> (Beach Buggy Blitz, Temple Run 2, Shadowgun Deadzone)
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Important is not to see what about already existing games. Using a Nexus 7 with custom kernel and none of those games are lagy. The 330 is yet to have show it's power as there is no game using 100% of it now a day. Need to see upcoming games and upcoming custom kernels as well. This device is really promising, only lack as for any device is the time the battery last while playing. Almost time the only solution is to play while plug to the wall, but it kill the battery.
Are there any upcoming games which are likely to put the 330 to full use?
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Are there any upcoming games which are likely to put the 330 to full use?
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Actually no, and I am happy about it. Would feel really bad if just after put my hands on the latest phone with latest GPU, the GPU would already be at its limits. But with time everything come.
cytus
Anybody tried playing cytus on ZU while putting it on a table? Had a lot of misses when I have to press two notes together as though my finger wasn't detected.
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Since a few people have got the phone already I was wondering what their gaming experience has been like.
With the screen and processor/GPU this may be not just the best gaming phone but perhaps the best portable gaming device out there.
Which games use the Ultra's hardware to the fullest? Are there any Android games with 1080p ?
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Real Racing 3
Just wait until we get JB 4.3. The Snapdragon 800 supports OpenGL 3.0, which is one of the new features in 4.3. Games will look even better.
My S3 heats up really fast when playing Clash of Clans... 5-10 min of gameplay.. and the bottom part of the phones gets really hot... somewhere around 50c or more
i can play other much more resource extensive games like brave frontier or Knight and Squires or sometimes watching movies for hours and the phone barely Heats up
btw.. what's on the bottom part of the phone that's causing the heat ? the ARM SoC ?
i kept changing between different ROMS and kernels... but same issue
It's the CPU, your game is probably coded to use all four cores at the same time -others may only use one.
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My S3 heats up really fast when playing Clash of Clans... 5-10 min of gameplay.. and the bottom part of the phones gets really hot... somewhere around 50c or more
i can play other much more resource extensive games like brave frontier or Knight and Squires or sometimes watching movies for hours and the phone barely Heats up
btw.. what's on the bottom part of the phone that's causing the heat ? the ARM SoC ?
i kept changing between different ROMS and kernels... but same issue
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You're right, whoe SoC is at the bottom, you just have to deal with it, i mean, phones don't have coolers
Also, it's way smaller heating than on S2, it's SoC was at the top by the camera, and the camera cover was metal, and when it heated up it could be so hot it just burned and your finger stuck to it, so, be happy, our S3 is 'cooler' than many other phones (atleast what i know).
Cheers.
Ok thanks guys... wow that 50+ c isn't considered hot
so are they any apps that can dynamically adjust clockspeed based on the Apps/games launched ?
No problem with playing game for me also..yea it can get hot sometimes when playing *heavy* games but in general its ok
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Playing pubG from 10 mins. Hitting 50+ on the celsius. Isn't this quite abnormal? Hasn't happened while playing pubG before. I'm running the latest update.
This is the CPUs temperature, to me its quite normal when playing heavy games...
Other user please verified this...
What settings did you play on? On the default HD-High mine is running 40-45-46. On the higher settings it goes in the 50s.
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What settings did you play on? On the default HD-High mine is running 40-45-46. On the higher settings it goes in the 50s.
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Everything maxed out.
Fireblaze15 said:
Everything maxed out.
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Fireblaze15 said:
Playing pubG from 10 mins. Hitting 50+ on the celsius. Isn't this quite abnormal? Hasn't happened while playing pubG before. I'm running the latest update.
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Mine max was 45°C but it's quite normal and as we all know this is because of software problem and the fix is coming soon.
If you use CPU float, that's the CPU reading. And that could reach up to 50-63 degress, hell if you use antutu benchmark it can go all the way 93 C for a split second!
Battery seems to be in the 39-42 C range depending on the environment.
Fireblaze15 said:
Playing pubG from 10 mins. Hitting 50+ on the celsius. Isn't this quite abnormal? Hasn't happened while playing pubG before. I'm running the latest update.
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OP this is CPU and GPU temperature not battery (OR surface ) temperature.This is normal ,CPU and GPU goes above 85 Antutu or in gaming for any normal phone.Only thing matters is Battery temp which is perfectly normal.
hrishi420 said:
OP this is CPU and GPU temperature not battery (OR surface ) temperature.This is normal ,CPU and GPU goes above 85 Antutu or in gaming for any normal phone.Only thing matters is Battery temp which is perfectly normal.
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Oh okay! Thanks everyone for the quick reply.
Thread can be closed.
i need to stop throttling from kernel is this possible ?
i tried all kernels and only underclocking delayed it a little bit but not disabled it.
btw my story :
i switched from g9600 to g965f (sd845 chinese s9 to european ****ty exynos s9 plus) because s9 screen is small. But in pubg, exynos performs like ****. i think this is just a FAKE cpu and gpu at all. After throttle in these summer days its like my old LG G5 with a cooling mod performing at peak. here : https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g5/how-to/hw-mod-improve-performance-prevent-t3821462/page3
35-55 fps flactuating holy crap. this is an 2018 flagship device WTF is going on. Even you can underclock SD845 to give 200.000 antutu and its still far far far better then exynos cooled with a fan (active cooling no throttle)
i was aware of this ****, they stopped sending free phones to anandtech because they uncovered this.
but i didnt know it was this bad on pubg. it seems like antutu scores are nothing to do with pubg performance of exynos. may be its about optimization or bad cpu gpu architecture for pubg.
i thouht that s9 plus has a bigger frame bigger heatsink so may be its not throttling like exynos s9, they are not talking about it on anandtech lasrhşaoırghşoeırghjea
https://www.anandtech.com/show/12615/improving-exynos-9810-galaxy-s9-part-1
I think only WhiteWolf kernel disabled termal but when phone gets very hot System turning off all applications
trying it now, seems like there is not throttle. i changed shıtty layer on cpu with a copper and thermal paste so its cooling faster but giving more heat to battery.
I've been using S9+ Duos with exynos SoC and never had throttling or fps drops on pubg... are you using a case or something that makes the phone extremely hot?
Don't forget thermal throttling is to protect the SoC... and staying on high temps for long time will decrease SoC lifetime...
If you have money and don't care about that then there's no problem on using a kernel with thermals disabled.
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thanks man its not throttling with whitewolf kernel now. im getting onsistent 59-60 fps all the time now like a snapdragon 845 device is not getting too hot, i have a fan anyway to improve battery longevity.
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I've been using S9+ Duos with exynos SoC and never had throttling or fps drops on pubg... are you using a case or something that makes the phone extremely hot?
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Nobody noticing it. Only me and other pros noticing it. i have shtloads of friends like you who is playing with 35-55 fps in throttle and they are not noticing anything. Even i have a friend with duo exynos model in gym and he is playing with 35-45 fps. drop is a different thing, im talking about FPS DECREASE.
May be you are in a very cold environment. use smooth/extreme and get fps on display (gamebench or gltools) and see massive fps decrease after throttle.
BTW your asking me if im using a case holy crap did you looked at my lg g5 mod ? aergaergt
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g5/how-to/hw-mod-improve-performance-prevent-t3821462/page3
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thanks man its not throttling with whitewolf kernel now. im getting onsistent 59-60 fps all the time now like a snapdragon 845 device is not getting too hot, i have a fan anyway to improve battery longevity.
Nobody noticing it. Only me and other pros noticing it. i have shtloads of friends like you who is playing with 35-55 fps in throttle and they are not noticing anything. Even i have a friend with duo exynos model in gym and he is playing with 35-45 fps. drop is a different thing, im talking about FPS DECREASE.
May be you are in a very cold environment. use smooth/extreme and get fps on display (gamebench or gltools) and see massive fps decrease after throttle.
BTW your asking me if im using a case holy crap did you looked at my lg g5 mod ? aergaergt
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g5/how-to/hw-mod-improve-performance-prevent-t3821462/page3
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[emoji2369] Again, I live in Argentina... temps goes from 2°C to 15°C on Winter and from 20°C to 38°C on summer...
I'm not a Pro, and don't need to, to notice and measure it. I'm just a simple Sr. System and Network engineer that plays with graphics set at max, and althought snapdragon has better performance than exynos my FPS counter has NEVER dropped even when playing for longer periods.
And I play with the phone using a Spigen NeoHybrid model case...
Don't know your scenario to evaluate wether is your device, ambient temps, etc.
Maybe your model has some kind of design issue... mine is a SM-G965FD
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[emoji2369] Again, I live in Argentina... temps goes from 2°C to 15°C on Winter and from 20°C to 38°C on summer...
I'm not a Pro, and don't need to for be able to notice and measure it, but I do play with graphics set at max, and althought snapdragon has better performance than exynos my FPS counter has NEVER dropped even when playing for longer periods.
And I play with the phone using a Spigen NeoHybrid model case...
Don't know your scenario to evaluate wether is your device, ambient temps, etc.
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may be you have a no throttle kernel
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may be you have a no throttle kernel
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I'm using XSG stock rom (non-rooted right now)
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I'm using XSG stock rom (non-rooted right now)
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hmm probably you are in cold and your a lucky guy.
there is stloads of guys on the internet like me
on this forum :
https://forum.xda-developers.com/ga...g-mobile-low-fps-lag-bad-performance-t3909636
and strange lag problem :
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s9-plus/help/games-slow-gradually-temporarily-fixed-t3793749
this strange problem only happening with exynos 9810 and 9820. if you go to multitask and come back to game its normalizing
on 9820 its not working and people getting refund because they cant play pubg at all:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6pfo9tvaeM&t=70s
Hi Guys. I play Black desert mobile on poco and when I have High graphics the gpu usage is around 30% while the cpu is 25%. Everything is ok, I can't say something about that. The point is that when I set the graphics to max settings, the usage of the graphics card goes between 35% - 60% and the processor is around 35%. For this reason, I would like you to tell me, how much the usage of gpu affects the overall 'health' and performance of the mobile, if it matters at all . What I mean is, whether it is 30% or 60%, will it affect the mobile in general? For example, I can use max graphics all the time without damaging the phone?
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Hi Guys. I play Black desert mobile on poco and when I have High graphics the gpu usage is around 30% while the cpu is 25%. Everything is ok, I can't say something about that. The point is that when I set the graphics to max settings, the usage of the graphics card goes between 35% - 60% and the processor is around 35%. For this reason, I would like you to tell me, how much the usage of gpu affects the overall 'health' and performance of the mobile, if it matters at all . What I mean is, whether it is 30% or 60%, will it affect the mobile in general? For example, I can use max graphics all the time without damaging the phone?
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I can use max graphics all the time without damaging the phone
I am always playing game max graphics
Poco have 845 and liquid cooler
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I can use max graphics all the time without damaging the phone
I am always playing game max graphics
Poco have 845 and liquid cooler
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Ok thank you. Are you sure though ? I mean have you checked if there is any difference between the battery power after and before playing for many hours ? Or with the performance in general? Because I can play sometimes many hours a day.