I found this app on playstore and wanted to get feedback from you guys, especially those that bought the pro version.
Is it really THAT effective?
Deep Sleep Battery Saver
Deepsleep battery saver constantly puts the device to deepsleep mode while screen off
Features
☆ 5 pre-defined profiles: Gentle, Balance, Strong, Aggressive, Slumberer. They varies on frequency, duration and other settings. The former is less disruptive, but save less battery and vise versa
☆ Custom profile (PRO) - for advanced users. If you need more customization, select this profile and modify it
☆ Custom profile settings
- Separate between weekday vs weekend settings
- Frequency: device is turned on DS mode at a selected frequency
- Duration: device is woke up after for a selected duration after a each frequency cycle
- Wileless & network: control radio setting during DS on
- Sync: Control sync strategy and sync account, auto-sync
- Apps: Select apps that will be stopped during DS on
- CPU: Process twist - root only
- Night period: During this period, device is always in DS mode
☆ General settings
- Screen off delay: a short delay before DS start. This option is used to avoid quick screen toggles
- Whitelist: Apps are always ignored when DS on, such as online music player
- Ingored recent apps: ignore recent apps
- Use APN settings: twist 3G/4G/mobile data toggler
- Check background data: If selected, it will ignore DS mode if traffic is above a defined threshold
- Traffic threshold & traffic sampling frequency
☆ Tasker plugin, Locale plugin
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.rootuninstaller.batrsaver
i personally found DU battery saver more effective..
It was a brilliant battery saver back when I had a S2. but on my Note 2 it's not that effective, simply because Samsung radically improved their sleep management algorithms and it goes too deep sleep almost after turning screen off.
DU battery saver on other hand does nothing special to save battery except for turning off wifi and ... . In my opinion it's completely in different category. I just love the Healthy Charging.
For rooted users nothing works better than Greenify.
You can over come all of that by :
Using greenify (Donate version) allows you to get the Push messages.
Using 3g-2g auto switching software as 2g saves lots of battery.
Using tasker to automate sync periods and duration if you like to receive mails and update your feeds.
By doing so, you can still be online all day long while on 2g-3g connectivity with a good battery backup. And that's what I'm always doing.
futchy4u said:
You can over come all of that by :
Using greenify (Donate version) allows you to get the Push messages.
Using 3g-2g auto switching software as 2g saves lots of battery.
Using tasker to automate sync periods and duration if you like to receive mails and update your feeds.
By doing so, you can still be online all day long while on 2g-3g connectivity with a good battery backup. And that's what I'm always doing.
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i never use any battery saver or anything they called.. :laugh:
here's my tricks;
- i only use greenify (free) for user app, and for unused system app i delete them manually or freeze with titanium backup..
- for 3g-2g auto switching, i'm using this xposed module; [APP] Intelli3G - 2G/3G/4G Toggle and battery saver for stock android, yes it saves your battery..
- uncheck the google account sync, i use it only after first installation of rom, contact and app only..
- instead of adblock/adaway, i'm using firewall to block unnecessary app to connect internet, thank god avast have that feature..
with all that i can use my device up to 30hours+ with 4hours screen time on..
if someone what to add more advice, please write it down..
btw @futchy4u, do you mind to share your automatic sync tasker profile, i might wanna try that one..
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i never use any battery saver or anything they called.. :laugh:
here's my tricks;
- i only use greenify (free) for user app, and for unused system app i delete them manually or freeze with titanium backup..
- for 3g-2g auto switching, i'm using this xposed module; [APP] Intelli3G - 2G/3G/4G Toggle and battery saver for stock android, yes it saves your battery..
- uncheck the google account sync, i use it only after first installation of rom, contact and app only..
- instead of adblock/adaway, i'm using firewall to block unnecessary app to connect internet, thank god avast have that feature..
with all that i can use my device up to 30hours+ with 4hours screen time on..
if someone what to add more advice, please write it down..
btw @futchy4u, do you mind to share your automatic sync tasker profile, i might wanna try that one..
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hotdroid, thanks for your detailed reply and i would love if you can give some more advice as its always helpful. Currently i am on DN3 and i do get around 3.5-4 hours screen on with wifi on all the time and 2G sometimes. But i have seen some people just having great battery usage, perhaps i have installed too many apps lol. Please share your thoughts on more battery saving tips.
hotdroid said:
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i never use any battery saver or anything they called.. :laugh:
here's my tricks;
- i only use greenify (free) for user app, and for unused system app i delete them manually or freeze with titanium backup..
- for 3g-2g auto switching, i'm using this xposed module; [APP] Intelli3G - 2G/3G/4G Toggle and battery saver for stock android, yes it saves your battery..
- uncheck the google account sync, i use it only after first installation of rom, contact and app only..
- instead of adblock/adaway, i'm using firewall to block unnecessary app to connect internet, thank god avast have that feature..
with all that i can use my device up to 30hours+ with 4hours screen time on..
if someone what to add more advice, please write it down..
btw @futchy4u, do you mind to share your automatic sync tasker profile, i might wanna try that one..
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I don't mind at all
Here you go ...
btw, I converted the profile to a simple service but without the greenifying part. And i'm using it now without using tasker. I was only using tasker for sync. but now I'm using my app without tasker .
I dont think this app gonna any longer work on Android KitKat v4.2.2 versions
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As many of you may know, for newer version of TS (at least for 4th List, May version devices), it's NOT possible to flick your wrist to show watch face since the Accelerator is DISABLED whenever screen is OFF!!!
What an oversight! A smart watch needs you to push a button to see time? What if when you are driving or have both hand full and cannot spare even a finger!?
(My Pebble, on the contrast, works great here!)
I tried to force the screen always on with watch face, it's great, except it kills my battery in around 6 hrs (airplane mode!) Not acceptable!
Thus, Here comes "Tasface". With this, you could achieve:
1. Let TS shows you time WHENEVER you LOOK at the watch! (well, actually when the watch is face up) or when you flick your wrist (You can modify this!)
2. Reduce using your button (if you have an Shortcut supported launcher like Smart Launcher 2)
DISCLAIMER: I will not be responsible if Tasface broke/brick your TS in anyway! Since Tasface is only a set of Tasker profiles/Tasks you can read everything before decide go or not! Tasface DO mess around with system files!
Pre-requests:
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1. Your TS must be ROOTED!
2. You need to know Tasker basics! (It's not THAT difficult to use Tasker...)
3. Tasker (Obviously)
4. Watchface by Kurt Huwig (I didn't test other watchface app. May not work with stock lock watchface) https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.huwig.watchfaces
5. Secure Settings (Required) https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.intangibleobject.securesettings.plugin
6. Smart Launcher 2 (Optional, any Launchers supports Shortcut will work. With this you can activate Watch face without using button!) https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ginlemon.flowerfree
Set-up
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1. Have Tasker (required), Watchface (required), Secure Setting (don't forget to install system helper) and Smart Launcher 2 (Optional) installed. DO NOT IMPORT "Tasface" yet!
2. Disable your stock lock watchface: Go to Setting/Personal & Account/Security/Screen lock/None (<-- This IS IMPORTANT)
3. Launch Watchface by Kurt Huwig, than double tap on any watchface to enter setup
a. check "Keep screen on"
b. Select desired watchface from "Lockscreen face"
c. Recommended to disable all other options
4. Check if the Watchface work or not by turn off than turn on your TS by press the upper physical button. You should see the Watchface you selected shows up when screen on. Swipe to return to your launcher and launch Tasker.
5. Unrar and import Tasface into Tasker
6. Close Tasker
7. Turn off --> Turn on your TS with the upper button
8. Profit!
Notes
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1. When watchface is displayed:
a. Touch screen is DISABLED to avoid accidental touch.
b. Screen will be OFF after 8 seconds (you can setup your prefer time)
c. Touch screen lock is achieved by putting a transparent Tasker Scene element on top of the Watchface. A small "X" on bottom right screen is used to reactivate the touch screen. You can also push the lower right button (back) to reactive your touch screen.
2. To show watchface (after automatic screen off as Step 1)
a. Just face the watchface up. The watchface should appear for another 8 seconds
b. There maybe a 1~2 second delay. This is due to Tasker not detecting the Watchface up event. I cannot do anything about this....
c. You could change the watchface up to anything else, like "Sensor shake/Backware-Forward"
3. If you have "Smart Launcher 2" or any other launcher supports Shortcut, you can set a icon to task "Lock". With this TS will activate watchface WITHOUT touch physical button. (I heard horrible stories about broken button so want to avoid use them as much as possible!) It's normal the screen will off for 2 second than back on with watchface for 8 seconds!
4. You must wait for automatic screen off or use the "Lock" shortcut to turn off the screen! Tasface will NOT work if you turn off TS by pressing the upper right physical button. This DISABLE the accelerator as mentioned above. To reactive Tasface, just turn on TS by pressing the upper right physical button to show the watchface than wait for automatic screen off.
I wrote this primarily for myself so a there are a lot of bugs. You are free to modify it and make it better. Just let me know if you have any questions and need help or improvement here!
Thanks button is just a click away if I helped you!
Update the attached file to resolve some bugs and improve responseness
Technical stuff -- What is done here?
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It's a bit technical here .... No need to read if you don't care how it works!
Since TS turns off the accelerator whenever screen off, so it's not possible to activate the screen once it's off by external conditions. (You can still set a timer to wake the screen, but it's meaningless)
Thus we need to disable the power hungry backlight while keep the screen on!
I found out that it's possible to control the backlight by doing
Code:
echo 0 > /sys/class/leds/lcd-backlight/brightness
Thus, I set up a Task profile which fires whenever Watchface is activated and TS is face up, to activate the backlight then turn off the backlight again after 8 seconds, but KEEP the TS screen wake! (Only backlight is turned off to save battery!)
Code:
echo 1 > /sys/class/leds/lcd-backlight/brightness
You can change "1" to anything from 1~255. I just found 1 bright enough for me
Since screen/system is always wake, to avoid accidental touch, a transparent Tasker Scene on top of the screen is add to disable the touch screen. A small "X" is on the bottom right to disable this transparent scene if anything goes wrong. (And it does, Tasker is laggy sometimes and too slow to remove this scene automatically!)
I also lower down the CPU cycle to the lowest possible to further saving battery. CPU returns to normal frequency when leaving watch face (into launcher, etc...)
That's all! Folks!
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Shake
I was able to use application Shake from ADL Dev (com.adl.appshaker) to switch screen on with shake/twist of wrist. You just have to enable "activate when screen off" option - and it is little battery hungry.
Of course I have version 20140513.
I also strongly suspect, that you can force sensors to work when face is off, by switching into "Sports mode" (Run Settings->SMART MODE->Sports Mode)
Piw said:
I was able to use application Shake from ADL Dev (com.adl.appshaker) to switch screen on with shake/twist of wrist. You just have to enable "activate when screen off" option - and it is little battery hungry.
Of course I have version 20140513.
I also strongly suspect, that you can force sensors to work when face is off, by switching into "Sports mode" (Run Settings->SMART MODE->Sports Mode)
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Thanks for the advice.... I just think since I already have Tasker on my TS, I want to find a way to not to use additional SW which always runs in background to monitor things... Since its battery hungry, maybe Shake also use the same trick as me......
As for Smart mode settings, I tried bdefore but none of them work for flick wrist to wake up... Maybe I missed something?
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might give this a shot since shake was waking up watch at wrong times and was destroying battery life, and i already have tasker on the watch and running so hopefully that will avoid the battery loss that shake had.
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As for Smart mode settings, I tried bdefore but none of them work for flick wrist to wake up... Maybe I missed something?
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I was just guessing, because it suppose to leave GPS and accelerometer working with screen off, to enable sport trackers and pedometers.
If it works? - I haven't tested yet...
Piw said:
I was just guessing, because it suppose to leave GPS and accelerometer working with screen off, to enable sport trackers and pedometers.
If it works? - I haven't tested yet...
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Wow! It seems you are right! The watch DOES allow sensor to work on Sport mode after screen off, but the response from Tasker become very sluggish when screen-off!
I made a simple profile to detect shake action (if shake than beep), and when screen on, the watch beep in less than one second after shake began, but when screen-off (sport mode), It took Takers 5~6 seconds of continuous shaking to detect the shake event. Not very practical for a watch solution...
With my Backlight solution, although sometimes still hiccup happens, but my feeling is about 90% of time the watchface wakeup correctly...
tasker problems
lssong99 said:
Wow! It seems you are right! The watch DOES allow sensor to work on Sport mode after screen off, but the response from Tasker become very sluggish when screen-off!
I made a simple profile to detect shake action (if shake than beep), and when screen on, the watch beep in less than one second after shake began, but when screen-off (sport mode), It took Takers 5~6 seconds of continuous shaking to detect the shake event. Not very practical for a watch solution...
With my Backlight solution, although sometimes still hiccup happens, but my feeling is about 90% of time the watchface wakeup correctly...
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i can not import to tasker tasker do not see it
pashka79 said:
i can not import to tasker tasker do not see it
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Do you mean the Tasker cannot see the prj file?
For how to import project, you could check http://tasker.dinglisch.net/userguide/en/faqs/faq-how.html#q
and you need to put the unrared file (.xml) in /sdcard/tasker/projects for Tasker to see it...
How much does this cost in battery? If I don't use my watch I can get about 4 days out of it.... I know Shake stops the TS going into deep sleep, won't this do the same and annihilate battery??
death_entry said:
How much does this cost in battery? If I don't use my watch I can get about 4 days out of it.... I know Shake stops the TS going into deep sleep, won't this do the same and annihilate battery??
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Don't know for tasker but I'm using shake app from market and I even I thought it'll drain my battery very fast - it didn't...
It's almost like I don't have it...
My battery can't hold on more then 24hours but I really use my watch and it's constantly connected to wifi and BT.
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funky0308 said:
Don't know for tasker but I'm using shake app from market and I even I thought it'll drain my battery very fast - it didn't...
It's almost like I don't have it...
My battery can't hold on more then 24hours but I really use my watch and it's constantly connected to wifi and BT.
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Ah that's prolly why you don't notice it running down... what do you use your watch for? Tbh i haven't used it for more than a watch lol/...
death_entry said:
Ah that's prolly why you don't notice it running down... what do you use your watch for? Tbh i haven't used it for more than a watch lol/...
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Well as I have Z1, which is quite big, I'm using TS mainly to receive notifications (using swapplink).
I'm receiving many emails (I'm using Z1 as my business phone) so it's great that I can see on my TS subject of email and decide what will I do.
I have sim card in TS and I use it all the time, when I'm alone in a car (and that's 6 hours per day )
I found TS quite practical for companion
BTW...from today, I'm using this app to help me save my battery power on TS and Z1
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=53078670
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lssong99 said:
Do you mean the Tasker cannot see the prj file?
For how to import project, you could check http://tasker.dinglisch.net/userguide/en/faqs/faq-how.html#q
and you need to put the unrared file (.xml) in /sdcard/tasker/projects for Tasker to see it...
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I tried this and Tasker can't see the xml on my TS
Here's a workaround for those having issues seeing the xml file in Tasker
Using a file manager, navigate to the location of the xml file
"Open with.." and choose Tasker
You will then see a toast notificaiton saying "...can be opened in Tasker" (or something like that)
Open Tasker -> Preferences -> UI -> Untick "Beginner Mode"
Back to main Tasker screen
In the HOME icon (bottom left) -> Long press, and choose "Import", then look for the XML file, wherever you put it
Boom
Note: Make sure you have the correct app from the Play Store, and not from the Ostore (same app, different names)
death_entry said:
How much does this cost in battery? If I don't use my watch I can get about 4 days out of it.... I know Shake stops the TS going into deep sleep, won't this do the same and annihilate battery??
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I am afraid that this will have an impact your battery. Basically to make TS responsive (light up as soon as you raise your hand), the screen/CPU is kept wake. Only LED backlight is disabled.
Although in my implement I put the CPU is slowest frequency and sleep Governor, but battery is around one day usage without radio on....
We need kernel tweak of this to achieve good battery life... Tasker is only... Tasker...
jeremy.chan said:
Here's a workaround for those having issues seeing the xml file in Tasker
Using a file manager, navigate to the location of the xml file
"Open with.." and choose Tasker
You will then see a toast notificaiton saying "...can be opened in Tasker" (or something like that)
Open Tasker -> Preferences -> UI -> Untick "Beginner Mode"
Back to main Tasker screen
In the HOME icon (bottom left) -> Long press, and choose "Import", then look for the XML file, wherever you put it
Boom
Note: Make sure you have the correct app from the Play Store, and not from the Ostore (same app, different names)
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Thanks I see it now.
put the unzip file at that location and still Tasker cannot see it?
Hi do read the solution I provided
Tapa-ed from the Sony Z Ultra
Hi guys!
I would like to start a small project. The whole point is to find out in which circumstances battery is running down faster/slower. It's more less about consumption and I hope we all will benefit from that simply by knowing what to avoid and if some features of Gear S are really draining battery or if it's just a myth.
I'm really looking forward to update this project in time.
Because of the nature of this project. I would love to get some help. Even if one person wants to participate I'll be thrilled.
Each test takes quite a lot of time so we can get more results if we will work together. I choose to run tests for 10 hours as it will give us more accurate results than anything shorter. 10 hours seems to be right as smartwatch still can be used during the day and whats more important, battery can be run down before recharging and testing.
Watch always on (6th watchface) Wifi/Network/BT(unpaired) off - 10h: 22%
Watch always on (6th watchface) Wifi/Network/ off - 10h: 23%
Watch always on (1st watchface) Wifi/Network/ off - 10h: 23%
Watch always on (Watcher) Wifi/Network/ off - 10h: 25%
Watch off (6th watchface) Wifi/Network/BT off -10h: 9% Comment: I was expecting less usage. BT in GearS was still ON as it can't be turned off (but not connected)
Connected via Bluetooth (Watch/Motion/WiFi off): 10h 11% Comment: Apparently when it's paired with phone (sync) does not make much of the different
Connected via GSM without data (Watch/Motion/WiFi off): 10h 18%
Connected via GSM with data (Watch/Motion/WiFi off): 10h 20%
Connected via UMTS with data (Watch/Motion/WiFi off) - 10h: 20%
Talk time on UMTS with data (Watch ON, Motion off, WiFi off) - 2h21m Screen was lighted up few times just to have a look what's going on
[By saying BT off means that do not keep it connected to your phone]
[While connected to Bluetooth or via cellular network make sure to deactivate all notifications in GearManager App - test will be useless if any notification will be delivered to the smartwatch]
To do a test just after a day of use charge your Gear S fully. After reaching 100% still wait approx 20-30min, choose what test you want to participate, disconnect from a charging cradle, switch the screen off and set an alarm to check it back after 10h
Observations:
Having a "Clock Always On" is not that bad idea. During 10h test it consumed 13% more than without it (6th watchface). So we can assume that during all day (approx 16h) we're loosing only 19-20% of juice. Is it bad? I don't think so... especially because you don't need to light up the whole screen just to check what the time is - which will consume some energy too... In the end of the day it still depends of that how often you need to check the time. If you are doing that very often, than "Clock Always On" is... lets say... more energy efficient solution (and looks much better than dark screen).
The only problem with "Clock Always On" is that, almost every touch, raindrop, wet sleeve triggers screen to turn on and it's very inconvenient for the battery life and it can messing around in the interface - it happened to me when i was walking in the rain.
In my opinion touchscreen should be inactive during that mode or even to give such an option to tick in the settings menu.
Thread to that issue http://forum.xda-developers.com/gear-s/help/how-to-stop-accidental-cuff-calling-t2991565#post58596115
What is your brightness setting when your clock is on? If it's set to "auto," then is this being done in a dark room or a bright room?
Seems like losing 20% of battery life after 10 hrs of clock mode on is reasonable at average to high brightness. I wouldn't mind a "clock always on" mode where the brightness is set to min and then the display brightens up when I either touch the display or wake button.
I currently use my Gear S with the "wake motion on" and I'm ending a day of 12-14 hrs of moderate use with 35-50% of battery.
My settings:
Gear S only connected to phone via BT
Wifi off, mobile network off
Set vibration intensity to low (don't see many people talking about this option)
minimal notifications
minimal apps
S voice to wake is off (have to turn off via S Voice settings on Gear S)
Minimal black clock face (batteryclock app)
Screen brightness to auto
I periodically go in to close all recent apps.
I'm always setting brightness to auto but in this case it doesn't really matter.
If you set to max or min ClockAlwaysOn is on with the same level of brightness.
On auto brightness there is no reaction too. Regardless if it is outside in a sunny day or in pitch black basement.
Also during a test just after disconnecting from a charger I'm switching off the screen with a button and after 10h wake it up with a button and straight check battery level. So brightness level won't change much for these 3-5secs
I am getting woken up by the watch. I have auto DND set to the correct times & DND selected on my phone. I also have Disable when DND is ON selected on Amazfit.
Any idea please ?
Amazfit doesn't have this option... It only has "disable when screen is on", and only on Android. If you meant AmazMod, some phones activate the screen to display notifications and this may break this setting, you have to find a configuration setting that works for you. And make sure you have notifications disabled in Amazfit if you are using AmazMod.
lfom said:
Amazfit doesn't have this option... It only has "disable when screen is on", and only on Android. If you meant AmazMod, some phones activate the screen to display notifications and this may break this setting, you have to find a configuration setting that works for you. And make sure you have notifications disabled in Amazfit if you are using AmazMod.
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The problem seems to be in the watch. If I manually select DND on the watch, I don't get disturbed. But the auto DND setting doesn't set the DND.
did not want to create new thread, so i ask here.
is there a way to set up auto dnd when i sleep? i have had amazfit bip before and there was auto dnd working like a charm. now i have bought stratos +, but found only how to set up scheduled dnd.is there a way to set auto dnd when i sleep? thank you
baronka said:
did not want to create new thread, so i ask here.
is there a way to set up auto dnd when i sleep? i have had amazfit bip before and there was auto dnd working like a charm. now i have bought stratos +, but found only how to set up scheduled dnd.is there a way to set auto dnd when i sleep? thank you
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Only schedule it for a fixed schedule, as you already found out. You can also simply put it in airplane mode or dnd from the drop down menu before you sleep, then disable it when you wake up.
What a shame on amazfit... bip is 3 times cheaper and has smart dnd, stratos does not...