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I've now had enough Primes in my possession at one time to have been able to compare different screens side-by-side, and here's my conclusion: there's significant variation in temperature, colors, and text quality between screens. And, I don't believe it represents different screen manufacturers, but rather variation within the same screens.
I say this because right now, I have three Primes that I'm deciding between as my "final" one. None of them are "perfect," even outside of the real or imagined radio limitations--on two, haptic feedback doesn't work, on a different two, there's what I consider significant light bleed, one has decent haptic feedback and minimal lightbleed, but a stuck pixel that I can't fix and speakers that seem to put out just minimally inferior sound.
What's notable, however, is that all three screens have different temperatures and overall colors. All are Gray units, all BCs, two from Best Buy and one from HH Gregg. And yes, I consider it ridiculous that I have three Primes in my possession in search of an acceptable one (and feel free to blame me or ASUS, it's entirely up to you). Here's the scoop on the screens:
#1: Overly warm, i.e., very yellow. Whites appear to be a dingy yellow. Text is markedly less crisp. Colors are somewhat washed out. Looking at Maps at a location with any detail, it's difficult to tell apart different geographical features by color alone. This is the second screen I've seen of such low quality.
#2: Less warm. Whites appear truer. Text is noticeably crisper. Colors are deeper and more pleasant. Looking at the same location in Maps, can actually distinguish between geographical features by color. Just a much, much better screen that makes the entire experience more pleasant.
Up to now, I'd though that there were two screen types: the "bad" one and the "good" one. However:
#3: Even less warm than #2. Whites even truer. Text even crisper. Colors deeper and even more pleasant. And in Maps, colors are even more delineated and it's even easier to pick out geographical details by color alone. That is, THIS screen is even BETTER than #2, which I'd thought was as good as they get. The difference between #3 and #2 is less than the difference between #2 and #1, but it's still quite noticeable.
Now, I admit that it's distinctly possible that ALL devices with LCDs would show such variability between units when held side-by-side, and that we don't notice them because we typically don't hold so many side-by-side. And, as a case in point, the screen on my Samsung Epic 4G Touch is definitely different than my wife's--my screen shows whites with a much colder (i.e., more blue) cast than hers, and I consider hers much better.
I just find it fascinating that there could be such variation in how these screens show color. I'm inclined to keep #3 in spite of the stuck pixel (it's only visible on higher brightness settings on absolute black screens) and questionable speakers, because the screen is SO much nicer. I could keep trying to get a "perfect" unit, but I wonder if I'd ever get another screen that's as good as this one. Plus, I'm just freaking tired of the whole affair.
I have a #1. It was good before the .33 update. now my colors look washed. My phone is much more saturated and truer colors.
Hmm, maybe that is why my OG TF seems to have a much nicer screen when it comes to colour: thogt it was just an anti-figer print / glare /whatever the hell coating.
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Hmm, maybe that is why my OG TF seems to have a much nicer screen when it comes to colour: thogt it was just an anti-figer print / glare /whatever the hell coating.
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IMO, the #2 and #3 Primes in my post have better screens (color- and text-wise) than my OG Transformer, looking at them side-by-side. In addition, in general, I think the OG Transformer is a little too cold comparatively, with whites being more bluish. The Primes are also brighter (even without Super IPS+ mode turned on).
However, #1 is much worse than the OG Transformer. As in, if it were a choice between the Prime with that screen and the OG Transformer, I'd take the latter. In a heartbeat. Reading ebooks on #1 is painful given the dingy white background and the jagged text.
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I have a #1. It was good before the .33 update. now my colors look washed. My phone is much more saturated and truer colors.
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Note that I was able to use a #1 before and after the .33 and ICS updates, and at least as far as the temperature and text is concerned, there was no change. I can't remember looking that closely at colors outside of temperature (for example icons and such where the washed out colors are noticeable).
Given the adjustments that ASUS has been making with color relative to the Tegra 3, I wouldn't be surprised if the #1 screen + some adjustment resulted in even more washed out colors.
I was auditioning the Note at the AT&T store in anticipation of its arrival on T-mobile. I was looking at a white one and everything seemed OK but just for grins I turned on a black Note also on display. The same display on the black set appeared much brighter. I thought the white model must be defective but when I went to a different display I discovered the same difference and again at a third display (it's a large store). The black phone appeared significantly brighter when displaying white screens in all three cases. I know that putting a black border around the screen of my projection TV created an illusion of brightness so dramatic it took a light meter to convince me that it was just a matter of perception and wonder if the same illusion is responsible for the phones apparent difference. Just the same, perception is everything. I use my screens (phone or TV) with my eyes not with a light meter. The review of the white phone on Engadget mentions light bleeding through the white bezel around the four buttons on the frame. Thanks to my projector TV experience I know even a moderate increase in ambient light will cause a dramatic shift in perceived screen brightness so I wonder if the white frame allows ambient light to enter the phone and wash out the screen as well. If light leaks out, as Engadget reported, why not in as well? The store had bright LED lighting above the displays.
Even though the difference was appreciable in 3 of 3 displays in the AT&T store, the sample is not large enough to be conclusive so I thought I would ask if others had noticed the same either in the store or when comparing the displays of friends with different phone colors. I thought I wanted white but will be going with the black based only on this experience.
i have both white/black note and didn't notice any difference in screen brightness or quality. the only thing is the bleeding around the buttons on white note. I know sometimes manufactures will use different suppliers which will cause some screens to look different but i haven't heard that on the note.
**some notes do have blobs and lines like the t989
Thanks for the reply. Glad to hear from someone with both. Hard to believe the tiny bezel around the phone could create such a difference in perception. Perhaps the white ones at the store are all from the same batch with weak lights. I guess I will just have to look closely at the phone when available from T-Mobile. The galaxy 3S looks pretty tempting also but I like the idea of the s-pen and the extra half inch of real estate.
Not sure where to ask this, so here goes. Picked up a Z Play for my wife and it's great. Then picked up a Z for myself and while it looks and runs great, there seems to be a definite green tint to the screen when viewed off-center. And I don't mean 30-40 degrees off, but as slight as 5-10 degree off center, in any direction and it has a definite green tint, regardless of brightness setting. Previous AMOLED phones for either of us never had issues until extreme angles, and her Z Play is far better, not turning green til about 40-50 degrees, which is what I would expect.
Is this common or an issue? It's only been a few days, so I can go change it if it's a known issue of any kind. I guess I can also go compare it to display phones.
Mine doesn't appear to have this issue, perhaps a slightly noticeable change when 40° off but not at 5/10.
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Mine doesn't appear to have this issue, perhaps a slightly noticeable change when 40° off but not at 5/10.
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Me neither, nothing remarkable happening when tilting it in either direction.
When the Moto Razr XT910 was new, there were many reports of varying panel quality problems, such as strong green or yellow tints
They did get new phones when they returned them, as it was a quality issue, could be the same thing now.
If I'm not mistaken, those with lots of green had field/cloud faults when viewing a black image in a dark room at full backlight, as they failed to reach zero brightness.
It was described as the pixels leaking electrons to surrounding pixels.
Viewing angles on the Z is worse than my old Moto X 2014 for sure, but it's probably due to the smaller pixels.
Nothing beats the old HTC One M7 though, that thing never faded, but it had an IPS screen.
However, in standard colour mode, it's heavily yellowish to reddish (some would call it warm colour temp)
In dynamic it's closer to white, but with a strong nudge to the blue spectrum.
Can't wait to get the custom colour temperature setting with Android 7.0!
So I'm well aware of the AMOLED tech and that there is always some sort of a slight blue shift at an angle. I'm, honestly, completely fine with this. What is bothering me is that when my device is tilted it shifts slightly red before shifting blue. That happens at about a 30 degrees angle or so.
I saw somewhere in another thread around here that someone measured the whites to be calibrated at 6500K which is a bit yellow-ish than most LCD screens. In all honesty, though, my eyes can get perfectly callibrated to that temperature and if I haven't seen a bluer screen in a while I start perceiving the whites on the S9+ as perfect. And here's where the slight red shift just before the blue one starts to really bother me. For some odd reason, especially at night when the room is completely dark, this slight hinge of red completely decallibrates my eyes and when I get back to looking at the display straight-on whites appear to be very yellow-ish for a while. And getting into the red shift zone (about 30 degrees tilt) is actually rather common whilist handling a 6.2" inch device.
So do you experience a slight red shift before the blue one when you tilt your S9+ and if so - does it affect you in the same manner as it does affect me? I'm really curious as to whether I have an outlier display or this slight red shift is actually the norm across S9's and it's just me who has to suck it up eventually and just move on. Thank you for the input!
I had three s9+ devices and all of them had the exact same thing that you've described, so i'm pretty sure it's a common thing across all of the devices and therefore it shouldn't bother you
Is that an issue? Possibly all have it.
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That's what I'm asking. So far only one person has responded, though. Is that so hard for people to just answer with a goddamn "yes" or "no"... :/
My first S9+ had a more pronounced blue shift but didn't shift pink before it shifted blue. Unfortunately, they had mistakenly sent me a single SIM variant even though I ordered a dual one. Second one was the correct variant but I noticed that it shifted red so I got the best of my 14-day return window and sent it back. My third one was similar to my first one and nothing in it really bothered me but as it turns out it had a dead pixel right in the middle of the display - somehow it took me 4 days to even notice it but once I did I just couldn't cope with it. So now I'm having my fourth S9+ and it's the same red shift right before it goes blue, just like the second one. I'm just trying to understand how common is the red shift because I'm this close to returning this phone as well but at the same time don't want to put the retailer through any more crap as I already returned 3 phones. It's actually an issue for me, even more so than any black crush or whatnot else. It's just that if I see a lot of people having similar displays that it might actually help me cope with it and move on until my next purchase somewhere in the future.
mine does and that's perfectly normal
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So I'm well aware of the AMOLED tech and that there is always some sort of a slight blue shift at an angle. I'm, honestly, completely fine with this. What is bothering me is that when my device is tilted it shifts slightly red before shifting blue. That happens at about a 30 degrees angle or so.
I saw somewhere in another thread around here that someone measured the whites to be calibrated at 6500K which is a bit yellow-ish than most LCD screens. In all honesty, though, my eyes can get perfectly callibrated to that temperature and if I haven't seen a bluer screen in a while I start perceiving the whites on the S9+ as perfect. And here's where the slight red shift just before the blue one starts to really bother me. For some odd reason, especially at night when the room is completely dark, this slight hinge of red completely decallibrates my eyes and when I get back to looking at the display straight-on whites appear to be very yellow-ish for a while. And getting into the red shift zone (about 30 degrees tilt) is actually rather common whilist handling a 6.2" inch device.
So do you experience a slight red shift before the blue one when you tilt your S9+ and if so - does it affect you in the same manner as it does affect me? I'm really curious as to whether I have an outlier display or this slight red shift is actually the norm across S9's and it's just me who has to suck it up eventually and just move on. Thank you for the input!
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My issue is the always on display. The clock has a pink hue to it. I've only hady S9 plus for about 2 months. Weird part is my girl got hers at the same time and hers has it also. It's very annoying. On top of that if I go to an all white screen mine has more pink than hers. I tried a painful factory reset and it's all the same.
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My issue is the always on display. The clock has a pink hue to it. I've only hady S9 plus for about 2 months. Weird part is my girl got hers at the same time and hers has it also. It's very annoying. On top of that if I go to an all white screen mine has more pink than hers. I tried a painful factory reset and it's all the same.
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It might be because of the wallpaper you're using
The clock (at least on the lock screen) will always have the same coloring and shading to it as the wallpaper
So maybe that goes for aod as well? Not sure because I'm not using aod, but it's worth a check
I sent back an Mate 20 Pro because (with LG screen) I had intermittent data disconnection issues. I had no gluegate screen issues, the screen was fine. The replacement device has a BOE screen. In comparison to the LG screen, after a few days here are my observations:
- The screen has a greenish tint (not gluegate) when viewed from the side. View the screen at about 45 degree angle (left, right, top, bottom etc.) and the color changes.
- Brightness: the BOE screen I have seems less bright than the LG one.
- The screen also seems less sharp than the previous LG, I would describe it as a bit "grainy" or "noisy", not the pin sharp display you would expect at this resolution
- Low brightness: when the brightness slider is low (10% brightness or less), the grey text breaks up on a black background when scrolling. Here is how to reproduce the issue.
1. Go to Settings and select the BLACK background mode. All text is white or grey and the background is black.
2. Set the brightness slider to minimum
3. Select a submenu in settings (e.g. Battery) then go to a dark room (with brightness at minimum)
4. Scroll slowly up and down the screen in the Battery (or some other) settings menu
5. On my screen the light (white and grey) text breaks up into green/magenta components. When the scrolling stops the text is white again. It's like the screen can not keep up with the scrolling, can not refresh the pixels fast enough so the white text breaks up into various colours.
Anyone has experienced this issue on either an LG or BOE screen? Any feedback is welcome.
I am not pixel peeking. I noticed this behaviour while adjusting some of my settings on the new phone. I did not see this at the LG screen. Because my old phone has been taken back by the courier I can't do any parallel comparisons.
This screen is a BOE screen, serial number 18B08. on the latest 122 software version. Based on my subjective observation the LG screen was brighter and did not notice these low light issues (however I was not looking for it in all fairness). Update: now on 146 software update.
Any feedback is appreciated.
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Update (9 Dec 2018)
I went to a local store and took some comparison pictures / videos between store units and my BOE screen Mate 20 Pro. See them below. All videos taken at MAXIMUM screen brightness on white background to compare the quality (max brightness and colour shift) of both screens.
Here are links to 2 Youtube sample videos:
https://youtu.be/t_BSsJi0f1o - My unit vs a O2 store demo unit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AUPe-z5ArfI - My unit vs a Three store demo unit (verified with LG screen)
Some images also attached.
The green 99% of people report on LG displays is in completely unnatural conditions that would never occur in real life use. They use a grey background, turn the brightness down to 1 and see a tinted glow coming out of the curved part of the OLED display that isn't even part of the actual display area.
The fact that the BOE display is not as bright and smooth as the LG display has been reported by many owners and is also likely the reason there is less light bleed coming out of the curved edges when people use the same unnatural conditions--the BOE screen is natively less bright and powerful at every light level including 1. If you research exactly how AMOLED displays generate color you will understand what I am referring to.
Even though the LG display actually seems to be far superior to the BOE display in normal everyday use with better colors, contrast and pixel response Huawei will probably be using the inferior BOE displays going forward because of the hysteria of some users that believed the LG display was defective.
As far as I know the curved OLED display was used on the iPhone X but not on any Android phone before the Mate 20 Pro so doing the same unnatural display test with the curved Amoled on the Mate 20 Pro and the non-curved Amoled of any other Android phone is obviously not going to yield the same results. The light bleed only manifests where the curve in the Amoled is.
Huawei said this was normal but some people loudly insisted that it wasn't so now going forward everybody is going to get the markedly inferior BOE display.
AMOLED displays do degrade over time so it would be interesting to compare how the LG and BOE displays each hold up but since people are only interested in the newest phones that comparison probably won't happen.
Wow dude, you don't know what you are talking about...
The green is totally defective and can be seen in many normal conditions!
The fact that it's emphasized by grey screen doesn't mean it cannot be seen.
I now have a BOE screen and cannot be happier, colors look excellent compared with my Galaxy S9+
LG green screen was crap. And I'm not biased towards LG, I have a very nice OLED 4K tv at home.
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The green 99% of people report on LG displays is in completely unnatural conditions that would never occur in real life use. They use a grey background, turn the brightness down to 1 and see a tinted glow coming out of the curved part of the OLED display that isn't even part of the actual display area.
The fact that the BOE display is not as bright and smooth as the LG display has been reported by many owners and is also likely the reason there is less light bleed coming out of the curved edges when people use the same unnatural conditions--the BOE screen is natively less bright and powerful at every light level including 1. If you research exactly how AMOLED displays generate color you will understand what I am referring to.
Even though the LG display actually seems to be far superior to the BOE display in normal everyday use with better colors, contrast and pixel response Huawei will probably be using the inferior BOE displays going forward because of the hysteria of some users that believed the LG display was defective.
As far as I know the curved OLED display was used on the iPhone X but not on any Android phone before the Mate 20 Pro so doing the same unnatural display test with the curved Amoled on the Mate 20 Pro and the non-curved Amoled of any other Android phone is obviously not going to yield the same results. The light bleed only manifests where the curve in the Amoled is.
Huawei said this was normal but some people loudly insisted that it wasn't so now going forward everybody is going to get the markedly inferior BOE display.
AMOLED displays do degrade over time so it would be interesting to compare how the LG and BOE displays each hold up but since people are only interested in the newest phones that comparison probably won't happen.
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Hello,
Thank you for the elaborate answer.
I don't have a problem with the unevenness of light or bleeding but lower brightness and grainier screen are not OK in my opinion. When I first opened up the first unit with the LG screen, it struck me how better it was than my SONY Xperia XZ Premium's screen, both in terms of perceived sharpness and luminosity. As a first impression.
The BOE screen however, shows much grayer and overall of inferior quality in comparison to the Sony. Might have an inferior screen on this Mate 20 Pro, I don't know, that's why I was asking for feedback.
For this price and being a flagship device having only an "acceptable" quality screen is not acceptable. Having so many posts online and cases of green screens it's a good possibility that there is something ongoing with these screens.
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The green 99% of people report on LG displays is in completely unnatural conditions that would never occur in real life use. They use a grey background, turn the brightness down to 1 and see a tinted glow coming out of the curved part of the OLED display that isn't even part of the actual display area.
The fact that the BOE display is not as bright and smooth as the LG display has been reported by many owners and is also likely the reason there is less light bleed coming out of the curved edges when people use the same unnatural conditions--the BOE screen is natively less bright and powerful at every light level including 1. If you research exactly how AMOLED displays generate color you will understand what I am referring to.
Even though the LG display actually seems to be far superior to the BOE display in normal everyday use with better colors, contrast and pixel response Huawei will probably be using the inferior BOE displays going forward because of the hysteria of some users that believed the LG display was defective.
As far as I know the curved OLED display was used on the iPhone X but not on any Android phone before the Mate 20 Pro so doing the same unnatural display test with the curved Amoled on the Mate 20 Pro and the non-curved Amoled of any other Android phone is obviously not going to yield the same results. The light bleed only manifests where the curve in the Amoled is.
Huawei said this was normal but some people loudly insisted that it wasn't so now going forward everybody is going to get the markedly inferior BOE display.
AMOLED displays do degrade over time so it would be interesting to compare how the LG and BOE displays each hold up but since people are only interested in the newest phones that comparison probably won't happen.
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Funny, I was sitting in a dark room with the screen set to grey and on the lowest setting and I was thinking, what the **** am I doing??? When would actually be doing this?? Probably never. I think some people are looking so hard for something that they are starting to see things.
I'm not doubting the there probably are some faulty screens out there, I had one right at the start too. But I've had an LG screen for a while now and it kinda looks green round the edges in that unnatural way of grey screen and low light. But I find it 10 time better than the grey washed out screen of the BOE. I had to turn the BOE screen brightness right up if I wanted to read in bed and the auto brightness was unresponsive.
Normal everyday use of the LG screen is 10 time better and the colours are just more vivid. I think I'm going to stick with LG
I found myself on Spotify with a really distracting green uneven smear all over my screen.... That wasn't a unnatural situation.
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The green 99% of people report on LG displays is in completely unnatural conditions that would never occur in real life use. They use a grey background, turn the brightness down to 1 and see a tinted glow coming out of the curved part of the OLED display that isn't even part of the actual display area.
The fact that the BOE display is not as bright and smooth as the LG display has been reported by many owners and is also likely the reason there is less light bleed coming out of the curved edges when people use the same unnatural conditions--the BOE screen is natively less bright and powerful at every light level including 1. If you research exactly how AMOLED displays generate color you will understand what I am referring to.
Even though the LG display actually seems to be far superior to the BOE display in normal everyday use with better colors, contrast and pixel response Huawei will probably be using the inferior BOE displays going forward because of the hysteria of some users that believed the LG display was defective.
As far as I know the curved OLED display was used on the iPhone X but not on any Android phone before the Mate 20 Pro so doing the same unnatural display test with the curved Amoled on the Mate 20 Pro and the non-curved Amoled of any other Android phone is obviously not going to yield the same results. The light bleed only manifests where the curve in the Amoled is.
Huawei said this was normal but some people loudly insisted that it wasn't so now going forward everybody is going to get the markedly inferior BOE display.
AMOLED displays do degrade over time so it would be interesting to compare how the LG and BOE displays each hold up but since people are only interested in the newest phones that comparison probably won't happen.
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biggest pile of rubbish ive ever read in the nicest way possible. to dismiss other peoples experiences just because you havent seen it is rubbish. my friend used my phone in the car at night ( i was using it for sat nav, is that normal enough?) they went on the spotify app to change the song then asked me why is the bottom half of my screen green. if thats not an unusual use case then no one can use their phones at night?
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I sent back an Mate 20 Pro because (with LG screen) I had intermittent data disconnection issues. I had no gluegate screen issues, the screen was fine. The replacement device has a BOE screen. In comparison to the LG screen, after a day here are my observations:
- The screen has a greenish tint (not gluegate) when viewed from the side. View the screen at about 45 degree angle (left, right, top, bottom etc.) and the color changes.
- Brightness: the BOE screen I have seems less bright than the LG one.
- The screen also seems less sharp than the previous LG, I would describe it as a bit "grainy" or "noisy", not the pin sharp display you would expect at this resolution
- Low brightness: when the brightness slider is low (10% brightness or less), the grey text breaks up on a black background when scrolling. Here is how to reproduce the issue.
1. Go to Settings and select the BLACK background mode. All text is white or grey and the background is black.
2. Set the brightness slider to minimum
3. Select a submenu in settings (e.g. Battery) then go to a dark room (with brightness at minimum)
4. Scroll slowly up and down the screen in the Battery (or some other) settings menu
5. On my screen the light (white and grey) text breaks up into green/magenta components. When the scrolling stops the text is white again. It's like the screen can not keep up with the scrolling, can not refresh the pixels fast enough so the white text breaks up into various colours.
Anyone has experienced this issue on either an LG or BOE screen? Any feedback is welcome.
I am not pixel peeking. I noticed this behaviour while adjusting some of my settings on the new phone. I did not see this at the LG screen. Because my old phone has been taken back by the courier I can't do any parallel comparisons.
This screen is a BOE screen, serial number 18B08. on the latest 122 software version. Based on my subjective observation the LG screen was brighter and did not notice these low light issues (however I was not looking for it in all fairness).
Any feedback is appreciated.
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inn regards to this. the BOE screen seems to be less vivid if you had the LG phone before. however i had my S8 on standard or SRGB mode. (maybe it was called basic i cant remember) and to me the colours look fine. i cant say it looks less 'smooth' not sure what that means either and i think you hit the nail on the head. when you start to pixel peep youll see many flaws. even if they arent really there. if you look at the LG display as hard as you have looked at teh BOE, maybe you would have found something else. I know the whole display thing is annoying for the price but i took into account selling my s8 and selling the WAtch GT (which i am using at starting to like) into the price
I think low brightness usage of a screen is a valid scenario which should work properly without green issues. I am occasionally reading ebooks in the dark, at minimum or close to minimum brightness. I had a number of smart phones and they all worked fine with a pretty uniform screen. I am not looking for perfection, but low light performance is a valid usage scenario where smartphone screen have to deliver - especially top tier, expensive flagship models.
I have the LG screen and apart from the greenish tint on the curved sides when viewed in a dark room with grey background (low brightness), I really have no issues during the day when there is normal lighting. I've read several forums with other phone manufactures where this complaint seems to be common, clearly Huawei could have done better QC. For me at least this nuisance isn't enough to return the phone.
Hi The LG is very bad, did you see the anandtech review of the Mate 20 Pro
https://www.anandtech.com/show/13503/the-mate-20-mate-20-pro-review/7
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I have the LG screen and apart from the greenish tint on the curved sides when viewed in a dark room with grey background (low brightness), I really have no issues during the day when there is normal lighting. I've read several forums with other phone manufactures where this complaint seems to be common, clearly Huawei could have done better QC. For me at least this nuisance isn't enough to return the phone.
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That makes sense. For me the overall brightness and sharpness is important as I am doing a lot of work outside surveying buildings. This is what I am apparently seeing in my BOE screen, the screen seems to be greyer and less bright than the LG one. But again, it might be an issue with my screen only - that's why I am looking for others' feedback.
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Hi The LG is very bad, did you see the anandtech review of the Mate 20 Pro
https://www.anandtech.com/show/13503/the-mate-20-mate-20-pro-review/7
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Thanks for sharing this review - it's so comprehensive and technical, without being too technical (if that makes sense).
On my 3rd phone with this being first BOE screen.
1st LG screen was utter crap, by the 2nd week at 50% brightness you could see the green around the edges on youtube videos etc... ( I would count that as most peoples use of a phone?)
2nd was much better but was still noticeable while using dark theme and dark backgrounds, which I do a lot. Main issue was I didn't want to wait for it to get worse like the first one.
3rd BOE - Much better screen. It is slightly less vivid but still plenty nice enough for me. Sharpness I have it set to FHD all the time and haven't noticed any issues at all. Only thing I did notice is there is a slight green tint viewed at certain angle, but pretty extreme angle which is unrealistic so doesn't bother me.
I don't think this is an issue that's specific to LG or BOE screens because I had this on my 2nd LG device. I thought it was because I was using YouTube vanced but obviously not. These screens are garbage.
I think OLED screens all have the problem to a certain degree. Just some are worse than others.
https://discussions.apple.com/thread/8146389
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Funny, I was sitting in a dark room with the screen set to grey and on the lowest setting and I was thinking, what the **** am I doing??? When would actually be doing this?? Probably never. I think some people are looking so hard for something that they are starting to see things.
I'm not doubting the there probably are some faulty screens out there, I had one right at the start too. But I've had an LG screen for a while now and it kinda looks green round the edges in that unnatural way of grey screen and low light. But I find it 10 time better than the grey washed out screen of the BOE. I had to turn the BOE screen brightness right up if I wanted to read in bed and the auto brightness was unresponsive.
Normal everyday use of the LG screen is 10 time better and the colours are just more vivid. I think I'm going to stick with LG
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Sorry but you are dead wrong. This does not remain this way. The LG panel shows the green after a few days even on 50% brightness.
The BOE screen is exactly as bright, clear and sharp as the LG and I know this because I had them side by side.
Don't spread nonsense. LG screen TEN TIMES BETTER? Shame on you.
For your information, Huawei admitted to EE on the phone that all the LG panels were in an early batch, and faulty. Good luck getting help when your LG panel goes bad, and it will.
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Sorry but you are dead wrong. This does not remain this way. The LG panel shows the green after a few days even on 50% brightness.
The BOE screen is exactly as bright, clear and sharp as the LG and I know this because I had them side by side.
Don't spread nonsense. LG screen TEN TIMES BETTER? Shame on you.
For your information, Huawei admitted to EE on the phone that all the LG panels were in an early batch, and faulty. Good luck getting help when your LG panel goes bad, and it will.
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No need to take that tone. We're all adults here so please don't act like we're back at school. So shame on you!!
It was just my opinion. I have both of them next to each other and there is a difference, I even posted pictures on another thread showing the difference in colour. I'm also not the only person to notice. Plus I've had my LG screen for 3 weeks now and it hasn't got any worse.
I mean jeez all these people getting het up, when it comes down to it, its just a phone.
I have a BOE screen as a replacement for my (slightly) faulty LG screen.
I've had other LG & Samsung OLED (both P-OLED and AM-OLED) screens on phones as well as many LCD screens.
I can honestly say that the BOE screen I now have is at least as bright as *ANY* other OLED screen I've had and pretty much as bright as the SuperBright LCD on my LG G7 Thinq.
The resolution of the BOE screen is also pretty bloody good; certainly no worse than it was on my LG screen'd original Mate 20 Pro.
I don't see any light bleed; only the "usual" colour shift evident on pretty much any OLED screen when viewed at an angle; and for me this phone hardware-wise is now pretty much perfect.
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The green 99% of people report on LG displays is in completely unnatural conditions that would never occur in real life use. They use a grey background, turn the brightness down to 1 and see a tinted glow coming out of the curved part of the OLED display that isn't even part of the actual display area.
The fact that the BOE display is not as bright and smooth as the LG display has been reported by many owners and is also likely the reason there is less light bleed coming out of the curved edges when people use the same unnatural conditions--the BOE screen is natively less bright and powerful at every light level including 1. If you research exactly how AMOLED displays generate color you will understand what I am referring to.
Even though the LG display actually seems to be far superior to the BOE display in normal everyday use with better colors, contrast and pixel response Huawei will probably be using the inferior BOE displays going forward because of the hysteria of some users that believed the LG display was defective.
As far as I know the curved OLED display was used on the iPhone X but not on any Android phone before the Mate 20 Pro so doing the same unnatural display test with the curved Amoled on the Mate 20 Pro and the non-curved Amoled of any other Android phone is obviously not going to yield the same results. The light bleed only manifests where the curve in the Amoled is.
Huawei said this was normal but some people loudly insisted that it wasn't so now going forward everybody is going to get the markedly inferior BOE display.
AMOLED displays do degrade over time so it would be interesting to compare how the LG and BOE displays each hold up but since people are only interested in the newest phones that comparison probably won't happen.
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I'm sorry but you made so many mistakes in your assertion. First the LG Display is by no means superior. The BOE display uses the new Synaptics driver that is light years ahead of the Unkown LG driver. I have meanwhile in my family the possibility to test the LG Display directly with my BOE display. The only thing I mentioned was that the colors were a little more vibrant on the LG. After adjusting some parameters my BOE display looked almost identical to the LG. But without the green tint. And your claim the green tint is not that visible under normal circumstances is totally rubbish. On my first mate 20 pro the green was visible under all circumstances. Not from the start, the issue progressed. I must admit Huawei handled my issue very good. I got from the start a very good BOE panel. And believe me if the green tint was anything normal, Huawei would never have exchanged the devices that easy.
My BOE Screen is great, clear, sharp nice and bright. Except for when the Power Genius app kicks in for Gmail, Chrome and Facebook.