Greetings from Moldova, comrades.
There's an issue bothering me for a couple of months so far... I have an Redmi 4X with very high and good quality cameras, both - front and rear. I get awesome pictures and a very stable video record... but when it comes to Viber, Google Duo and Whatsapp.... the camera they use ( the chromatics ) offer a very poor quality, with a very low bitrate and FPS... lagging and so on.
Could you please explain to me what codecs/ drivers / files do these apps use in order to manipulate the camera? Is there a way to give them the same quality I get with the stock camera? The image is very blurred and laggy....just excatly like the viewfinder of the Photo-Stock-Camera.
please advice me where to put an eye on and where to start digging in order to higher the quality of the video calls for these sensors?
As a tip:
The quality of the image during the viewfinder is opened is exactly the same as the video call using any of the messenger apps. But if I turn of the Noise Reduction in the settings of the Stock Camera, the viewfinder gives a very brilliant clear image. The second problem is the low fps of the viewfinder during low light, but it reffers only to the photo camera. When I switch to the video camera, even the viewfinder has a high FPS.
A guy from the russian forum told me that video/photo viewfinders use different chromatics. What does this mean? How to make them identic?
Why isn't anybody touching this subject? Is this a mistery or a fact that is kept in secret? I am trying to ask this thing for 2 months already and each time the forum users keep ignoring this or telling me I am using the wrong thread or stuff like this.
My question is simple! What is the way an app connects to the sensor and what driver it uses? Why the quality differs from the global camera?
Mango Polo said:
Why isn't anybody touching this subject? Is this a mistery or a fact that is kept in secret? I am trying to ask this thing for 2 months already and each time the forum users keep ignoring this or telling me I am using the wrong thread or stuff like this.
My question is simple! What is the way an app connects to the sensor and what driver it uses? Why the quality differs from the global camera?
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I think you're a little bit pissed off ?.Take some time to relax .
The bad quality during video calls is caused by a poor internet connection.
If you were talking about the video quality when you aren't calling , I can't do anything for you .
Have a good day ( or night )
RaiZProduction said:
I think you're a little bit pissed off .Take some time to relax .
The bad quality during video calls is caused by a poor internet connection.
If you were talking about the video quality when you aren't calling , I can't do anything for you .
Have a good day ( or night )
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The bad quality in the same room with another phone with good quality means the phone is related to the problem. First of all Noise reduction isn't turned off like to the stock camera app secondly the bitrate is very low comapring to a Samsung phone with lower CPU and RAM . And it's not the camera sensor that is cheap ( it shoots perfect video and photos even in LOW light ( especially with the API2 camera ON ) I am thankful someone answered lol will still be hoping someone knows how to modify the setting of the camera for a video app. There is something in Android that tells these apps how to use the camera
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The bad quality in the same room with another phone with good quality means the phone is related to the problem. First of all Noise reduction isn't turned off like to the stock camera app secondly the bitrate is very low comapring to a Samsung phone with lower CPU and RAM . And it's not the camera sensor that is cheap ( it shoots perfect video and photos even in LOW light ( especially with the API2 camera ON ) I am thankful someone answered lol will still be hoping someone knows how to modify the setting of the camera for a video app. There is something in Android that tells these apps how to use the camera
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It looks like you've searched for a long time before asking on those forums .
Unfortunately I don't see at all what can be wrong , sorry for that , I hope you'll find
RaiZProduction said:
It looks like you've searched for a long time before asking on those forums .
Unfortunately I don't see at all what can be wrong , sorry for that , I hope you'll find
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There is more than this. I am sure there are developers here who understand what I mean, but I guess it is more a policy of the brands. Camera quality is lowered in the code of the ROMs. I am just asking how.
No problem, I will wait until a "good''guy will decide to be open.
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The quality of the Camera is really bad, it doesnt show good details in photo and video mode.
Full HD videos i too bad quality , HD videos is much better but still not good .
I've even formated and still have the problem .
Is there any app to make the camera better ?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1104051
A7md Babylon said:
The quality of the Camera is really bad, it doesnt show good details in photo and video mode.
WRONG
Full HD videos i too bad quality , HD videos is much better but still not good .
I've even formated and still have the problem .
WRONG
Take phone back buy a Nokia .
jje
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Haven't tried hd video yet but photos are okay provided you have enough light in the environment. Indoor photos aren't that good but outdoors with plenty of sunlight looks good detail wise for a smart phone.
Best camera phone I have owned. Iphone is a close second. Could be the firmware.
Seriously there are posts with excellent pictures and videos . Try a factory reset .
jje
JJEgan said:
A7md Babylon said:
The quality of the Camera is really bad, it doesnt show good details in photo and video mode.
WRONG
Full HD videos i too bad quality , HD videos is much better but still not good .
I've even formated and still have the problem .
WRONG
Take phone back buy a Nokia .
jje
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I already have the best camera phone N8 ..
I tried Hard reset but the same problem ..
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Fuzzy yellow bars
I tried taking a picture of a document I had and I saw that there were fuzzy yellow bars on the picture.
Can anyone see if I happens to them too? I tried taking a picture of a white piece of paper under fluorescent light.
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JJEgan said:
I already have the best camera phone N8 ..
I tried Hard reset but the same problem ..
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There must be something wrong with your phone mate.
Can't agree on any of those points with you.
The only niggle I found was in the audio capture which suffers from severe clipping under very loud conditions (Rock Concert recording Fail!). My friend's iPhone4 did a much better job with the audio.
However, the GSII offers better video detail without artifacts and less severe noise reduction (Both under low light & bright conditions). The photographs offer no cause for complaints either!
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hi,
i came from an iphone4, and the only thing im missing on SGS2 is quality of sound captured on live concerts. Iphone 4 does a pretty good job on this area.
Can we improve the capture of sound, cause records with a lot of distortion. Put him like an iphone4?
tks
Bananaz said:
hi,
i came from an iphone4, and the only thing im missing on SGS2 is quality of sound captured on live concerts. Iphone 4 does a pretty good job on this area.
Can we improve the capture of sound, cause records with a lot of distortion. Put him like an iphone4?
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Get the "TapeMachine" app and experiment with the 2 different microphones and the gain.
Beyond that, it's mostly a hardware limitation.
Bananaz said:
hi,
i came from an iphone4, and the only thing im missing on SGS2 is quality of sound captured on live concerts. Iphone 4 does a pretty good job on this area.
Can we improve the capture of sound, cause records with a lot of distortion. Put him like an iphone4?
tks
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Your not supposed to tape live concerts.
kotaro_14 said:
Your not supposed to tape live concerts.
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I think you can tape them just not distribute it.
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Towle said:
I think you can tape them just not distribute it.
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agreed
knightnz said:
Get the "TapeMachine" app and experiment with the 2 different microphones and the gain.
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It looks like TapeMachine only increases gain and doesn't decrease it
well, tks for the answers.
but im talking about the sound captured with the camera, small clips on video, but if is hardware limitation there's nothing we can do.
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i saw that
Anyone tested this on live shows?
Have you tried the Hx Camera Mod? The sound after replacing the camera.apk is much better! But you need root!
Go to the android development forum for gt-i9100.there u gonna find a.post by potatoman for replacing the stock camera app.aftr replacing u get to record videos i at 192 kbps frm d stock 64 kbps and the audio quality of videos is highly increased.though u need root for it.
PS-Am taking it that u wanna increase the sound quality of videos coz who records conerts in audio only format :-D
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abhiwltya said:
Go to the android development forum for gt-i9100.there u gonna find a.post by potatoman for replacing the stock camera app.aftr replacing u get to record videos i at 192 kbps frm d stock 64 kbps and the audio quality of videos is highly increased.though u need root for it.
PS-Am taking it that u wanna increase the sound quality of videos coz who records conerts in audio only format :-D
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Yes. Is for video hehe.
I will root the phone and test this weekend on a live show
Question if i root the phone i loose any data from phone?
ok let us know the outcome as I am interested too
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Yes. Is for video hehe.
I will root the phone and test this weekend on a live show
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I'm having the same problem, while filming. The audio is over saturated on loud volumes as the audio input seems way too loud. I wish there was a way to decrease gain.
I wonder if a better audio quality encoding is going to help if the recorded sound is already distorted... it might even make things worse.
Anyway, please let us know.
Virtual Recorder does a quite good job whilst I record my band's rehearsing. We play freaking loud but VR has got a preamp control so it may work well on live gigs as well.
in the market search for VirtualRecorder
Hope this helps.
chalger
Whilst my mod does improve audio recording quality, it doesnt really do it with this situation in mind. The gain is left stock, just the encoder settings changed. This means all you'll get in concerts is a higher quality recording, but still distorted because of the gain.
All I can suggest is to try some of the recording apps on the store (I Like VirtualRecorder and Tape Machine, VR has a control but I havent tested at a concert yet) , you are correct when you thought gain control would fix it. The mic on the SGS2 is very small and sensitive, so it distorts lots when recording extreme volumes. Turning the gain down would therefore help.
Good luck with your search, I hope you like and continue to use my cameramod anyway
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Whilst my mod does improve audio recording quality, it doesnt really do it with this situation in mind. The gain is left stock, just the encoder settings changed. This means all you'll get in concerts is a higher quality recording, but still distorted because of the gain.
All I can suggest is to try some of the recording apps on the store (I Like VirtualRecorder and Tape Machine, VR has a control but I havent tested at a concert yet) , you are correct when you thought gain control would fix it. The mic on the SGS2 is very small and sensitive, so it distorts lots when recording extreme volumes. Turning the gain down would therefore help.
Good luck with your search, I hope you like and continue to use my cameramod anyway
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Hey Potatoman, im using your mode now, and is awsome. Good Work. Lets see on live show this weekend. I will post some videos on youtube after.
Can you tweak the mod with an option to reduce the gain? Or do it automatic like the iphone? Just a though to an update.
Tks
Regrettably the section I modded didnt have anything for gain, and even if it did it would mean when you try to film normal settings with the video camera it would be too quiet. Plus, it's not really feasible to swap out the APK every time you want a different gain, so I dont think my mod method would be suitable even if it was possible.
Who knows though, maybe the distortion was just low quality files, in which case yay I fixed it without trying ^_^'
I go to Dream Theater concert on Sunday, and make a few recordings to test qith the your mod Potatoman.
I will post here the videos after.
Tks for the reply
Thank you Chalger and Potatoman. TapeMachine only increases gain (from 0.3dB to 20dB). VirtualRecorder has an auto gain mode - a preamp auto gain mode - but actually nothing to decrease gain.
Anyway, like Bananaz, I am trying to find a way to get less distortion when using the camera. I am looking forward to hearing about Bananaz' concert... I do hope Potatoman's great cameramod will make things better.
Why don't you try just watching the concert instead of making low quality shaky recordings of it that nobody but yourself wants to see. I can guarantee you that 95%+ of the people standing behind you at the concert while you're recording want to take your glowing, distracting, irritating square of light and ram it firmly into one of the holes on your body.
Just a suggestion.
Edit: in fact that's a great idea for a camera mod. A button that allows you to turn off the screen but still record video. I've seen a couple of occasions where someone has grabbed a camera being held up in their face by the inconsiderate idiot in front of them, and then thrown it across the venue, accompanied by cheers from the rest of the crowd. A mod might save someone losing their phone...
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kotaro_14 said:
Your not supposed to tape live concerts.
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That's your assumption...how do you know it's not a friend who asked them to record for them?
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Well, as the thread says, I have problem with recording video like i dont have autofocus... All blured check video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jDxq7wXLAfE&feature=youtu.be
decrease the volume because it is too loud in video
No one has this problem?
Is this with all vids o is that the only one you have because the the huge flame in the foreground wont help the focus much and at night did yiu have it in night mode.Check out this link.I know that there is problems between 720p and 1080p with stability from autofocus and noise distortion.maybe you can pick something up here.In this link they recomend 720p for low light recording due to noise distortion and the advantages of pixel binning.
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_i9100_galaxy_s_ii-review-597p9.php
Thanks, I'll try when next time record something, but it's very stupid when you have feature like recording in 1080p and then they say to you, that you could only use 720p for better fps and image...
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Thanks, I'll try when next time record something, but it's very stupid when you have feature like recording in 1080p and then they say to you, that you could only use 720p for better fps and image...
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yeah i know.Ive tried 1080 and above and also noticed that the auto focus makes it shakey and a bit jumpy too.
Well, I think that maybe ICS will fix this up, and we will all enjoy in FullHD...
Just question what camera fw have you? I have SCEF02 TBEC28
The auto-focus on the S2 is really poor. I had the S i9000 beforehand and it was perfect.. the auto-focus was very subtle and only changed focus when the scene was dramatically different.
Have you tried lgCamcorder? It seems to turn off the auto-focus while recording quite successfully... wish someone could find out how it does that, and port the change to the standard Samsung camera.apk!
Yea... My friend has i9000, and that is why i bought S2, cause i thought it will be better on all sections... Haven't tried lgcamcorder, but i'll try...
Hello,
I recently got a new Mate 10 Pro. I tested the camera and I think that the photos looks ok, but the video quality is not as good. The videos in 4K look ok, but in 1080p/30fps and 1080p/60fps the videos looks bad, noisy.
I updated the phone to Android 9 and EMUI 9 before I shoot the photos and the videos, so I don't know the quality before the update.
Another problem is that I cannot find the video stabilization ON/OFF setting. At one moment I found it, but I don't know if it was before or after the Android 9 update.
I also saw that sometimes the autofocus is not properly working when shooting videos.
My software version is 9.0.0.161.
1. Are there any problems regarding the update or my phone is broken ?
2. Does anyone also have those problems ?
Hi, I don't think you have a hardware problem. I have this phone since 16th november of 2018, with Oreo 8.0.0.157 C432-L29, i didn't have those problems. In Android Pie i think the app doesn't have the same performance like Oreo's. The AI of this app is INCAPABLE of making things right now, for me. Shooting photos is better, but videos in 1080p looks a bit weird , especially in low light condition. Maybe this is the problem. Let's hope in the next updates, they will fix it and make it better.
Thanks for the reply.
Is there anyone more with the same problem ?
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Thanks for the reply.
Is there anyone more with the same problem ?
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1st: video has been very bad on Huawei phones for a long time. It has not gotten better, even the mate 20 pro is far behind apple and Samsung.
2nd: stabilization only works for up to 1080p30. 1080p60 and 4K do not support stabilization thus you won’t find the setting when shooting it.
3rd: the phone has improved it’s photo quality and camera app in general over the past year I have had the phone since Jan 2018. It got updates every 2 months with new features almost every time. They added handheld night mode, face unlock, 960fps slomow, improved aperture depth detection, improved AI (looks a lot less oversaturated now) it also got gpu turbo and much much more. In the span of a year i Must say huawei impressed me.
4th: it took me some time to get to know the camera. Now my shots are much better (I use raw from pro mode) so it’s mostly about the photographer.
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2nd: stabilization only works for up to 1080p30. 1080p60 and 4K do not support stabilization thus you won’t find the setting when shooting it.
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I can't find the video stabilization settings in 1080p30. This setting (stabilization on/off) does not appear in the camera menu.
Is the described problem in the first post a software or a hardware problem ? What should I do ?
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I can't find the video stabilization settings in 1080p30. This setting (stabilization on/off) does not appear in the camera menu.
Is the described problem in the first post a software or a hardware problem ? What should I do ?
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It is software since it is electronic stabilization it is software only. I have just checked and I don’t have the option in my phone either but I think it’s on automatically since there is a big crop. This is because they use the outer edges of the image sensor to make up for the movement. You can google how EIS in videos work. You can see much more when using 1080p60 so there is no EIS but when you switch to 1080p30 there is a huge crop.
Edit: I have just tested it. Eis works on 1080p30. I was walking and shaking a lot and with 1080p60 there is a lot of shaking with 30 only very little.
Hardware stabilization is optical stabilization but it does not do much (it is always on btw it is a way how the lense is built) except for removing shaking when taking photos it is especially useful in dark conditions where the shutter speed is reduced to take more light in. It will almost do nothing in videos. You can find out if a phone has optical image stabilization if you gently hit you phone close to the camera with one hand while holding it with your other there should be a little noise like there coins inside the phone.. That is because the lenses move around in order to counter camera movement from shaky hands.
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It is software since it is electronic stabilization
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The problem described in the first post of this topic (the problem with noisy video quality, please have a look at the first post in this topic) it is a software or it is a hardware problem ?
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The problem described in the first post of this topic (the problem with noisy video quality, please have a look at the first post in this topic) it is a software or it is a hardware problem ?
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Lol sorry. Well it can’t be hardware if all is well when recording 4K or taking photos. So I guess it just doesn’t live up to your standards. In general many YouTube reviews criticize that 1080p looks more like 720p upscaled. Maybe that’s what you mean also.
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I have just tested it. Eis works on 1080p30. I was walking and shaking a lot and with 1080p60 there is a lot of shaking with 30 only very little.
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Hi,Alfred!
May I know the Android version and camera software version on your Mate during that test?
Hi everyone, I haven't seen anything in the threads mention anything about this but I've been trying to use my phone for video calls and it's god awful. It looks zoomed in and it's just blurry looking in every app that I've tried so far including Google's own Duo application. I have never been so embarrassed by a phone until yesterday when my friend asked what kind of phone I have. I was like I had a Pixel its made by Google the creators of android and asked to video call someone just to hear the person on the other end of the call say whats wrong with ya connection the picture looks horrible.
Came home and Duo called myself from my Samsung A72 and wow it looks like utter crap. On the other hand, the budget Samsung A72 was looking great, not to mention the A72 has the ability to record 4k with its front camera as well. I was thinking the latest update would fix this but nothing. This may definitely be a deal-breaker for me.
One more thing, does anyone else's background looks orange/yellow when taking a selfie that has a wall background?
Is anyone else having this issue with their Pixel?
I have used only Viber and Telegram calls and quality was fine. I haven't tested Duo yet. Maybe you could try with other application...
I have the same problem with my Pixel 7.
Quality on WhatsApp, Viber, Messenger, Instagram, and its own google app for video calling, its just bad .i mean for a phone that you give solid amount of money should make the job for the most common task,video calling.
To mention that camera is perfectly fine when using it from phone.Just in apps it's really bad.
Hopefully it get fixed with future updates.
Front camera is plain bad. Small sensor and bad software. It's the same camera since Pixel 2...
I fixed photos quality by installing Google Camera mod with some personal settings, but video quality is terrible...
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Hi everyone, I haven't seen anything in the threads mention anything about this but I've been trying to use my phone for video calls and it's god awful. It looks zoomed in and it's just blurry looking in every app that I've tried so far including Google's own Duo application. I have never been so embarrassed by a phone until yesterday when my friend asked what kind of phone I have. I was like I had a Pixel its made by Google the creators of android and asked to video call someone just to hear the person on the other end of the call say whats wrong with ya connection the picture looks horrible.
Came home and Duo called myself from my Samsung A72 and wow it looks like utter crap. On the other hand, the budget Samsung A72 was looking great, not to mention the A72 has the ability to record 4k with its front camera as well. I was thinking the latest update would fix this but nothing. This may definitely be a deal-breaker for me.
One more thing, does anyone else's background looks orange/yellow when taking a selfie that has a wall background?
Is anyone else having this issue with their Pixel?
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Try to set a native aspect ratio (4:3), disable EIS, and zoom all the way out.... if your software allows it.
The "default" way to capture video from that camera tends to be in 16:9, EIS, and zoomed in a bunch. All of these cause the image to be cropped. EIS uses a buffer zone around the captured video and moves the selection around in it to stabilize the video.
Unfortunately, most video chat programs don't allow these kind of controls.