Please delete this thread and please ban me and people who are calling me a troll, this is for you, (check the date):
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=77495198&postcount=17
shailendra1993 said:
I was checking out other phones that had this Multitouch issue, it includes Redmi Note 5, Redmi Note 5 Pro, Zenfone Max Pro M1, etc. Do you know what these all have in common? The IPS display, this is also cited by Beembom and since Xiaomi is not responding to any thread that's created for this issue, I suspect more and more than this is a hardware issue.
Redmi Note 5 and Redmi Note 5 Pro still has this issue and it even is present on custom ROM's. The only phone that solved this problem was Max Pro M1, Xiaomi has not got the brains to solve it. MiA1 (my last device) that has a very inferior processor never had this issue, because it has a LTPS LCD.
Start reporting and ask about this before it's too late. Maybe they are waiting to make enough money before telling about this issue.
Since Xiaomi is not saying anything, I have already reached few reviewers and media companies to get Xiaomi's comment on this and have lodged several complaint against Flipkart and Xiaomi for this probable fraud because selling a device showing a point that the latest processor is being used and coupling it with a useless interfacing hardware is less or more a fraud.
I hope Flipkart/Xiaomi fix this issue (if it's a software issue) else refunds me my money.
Full Story: https://www.reddit.com/r/Xiaomi/comments/9df99r/selling_my_poco_f1_because_of_its_bugs/
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Can confirm present on my redmi note 5 pro but haven't tried anything outside miui.
Is the display and touch response so bad that's to be real deal-breaker? Or is it common to all IPS display phones under 25k?
My POCO F1 order is in transit, and I was wondering whether I should cancel it before delivery. Please advise.
sechebe said:
Is the display and touch response so bad that's to be real deal-breaker? Or is it common to all IPS display phones under 25k?
My POCO F1 order is in transit, and I was wondering whether I should cancel it before delivery. Please advise.
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The only phone with IPS that had the issue fixed via OTA is Zenfone Pro M1.
Few Nokia 7 Plus has it too, but the company fixed those units via some repair.
Poco F1 seems to have this issue out of the box and is not even replying or making any statement regarding this, but it's their common attitude they even did this with mi4i, they launched Mi4i by saying it's a flagship, that time too I bought the phone in the first sale and the device had a major issue related to SD615 heating problem, in the next OTA they said that they have fixed the issue, you know what they did? they permanently disabled 2 cores and when users went mad over this, they reenabled the cores again and in the end the phone got so bad due to their bad optimization that I was getting 1 hour SOT after only 1 years of usage, it's the Mi4i thing all over again.
sechebe said:
Is the display and touch response so bad that's to be real deal-breaker? Or is it common to all IPS display phones under 25k?
My POCO F1 order is in transit, and I was wondering whether I should cancel it before delivery. Please advise.
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I understand it's a very lucrative deal, I have got the phone all packed up to return it or sell it. What I will recommend is, wait until they promise to fix it.
shailendra1993 said:
I was checking out other phones that had this Multitouch issue, it includes Redmi Note 5, Redmi Note 5 Pro, Zenfone Max Pro M1, Nokia 7 Plus, etc. Do you know what these all have in common? The IPS display, this is also cited by Beembom and since Xiaomi is not responding to any thread that's created for this issue, I suspect more and more than this is a hardware issue.
Nokia 7 Plus, Redmi Note 5 and Redmi Note 5 Pro still has this issue and it even is present on custom ROM's. The only phone that solved this problem was Max Pro M1, Xiaomi has not got the brains to solve it. MiA1 (my last device) that has a very inferior processor never had this issue, because it has a LTPS LCD.
Start reporting and ask about this before it's too late. Maybe they are waiting to make enough money before telling about this issue.
Since Xiaomi is not saying anything, I have already reached few reviewers and media companies to get Xiaomi's comment on this and have lodged several complaint against Flipkart and Xiaomi for this probable fraud because selling a device showing a point that the latest processor is being used and coupling it with a useless interfacing hardware is less or more a fraud.
I hope Flipkart/Xiaomi fix this issue (if it's a software issue) else refunds me my money.
Full Story: https://www.reddit.com/r/Xiaomi/comments/9df99r/selling_my_poco_f1_because_of_its_bugs/
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I am using POCO F1 and not facing this kind of problem maybe your device is damage ask for replacement.
sechebe said:
Is the display and touch response so bad that's to be real deal-breaker? Or is it common to all IPS display phones under 25k?
My POCO F1 order is in transit, and I was wondering whether I should cancel it before delivery. Please advise.
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I used it for week coming from OnePlus 5t I felt screen was to lagging compared to 5t plus the UI has a lot of bug I know they will fix all bugs but if I were you I would pay the extra 200$ and get the OnePlus 6
For me, the intended usage was for 2 years with the phone. And if they have issues with touch and display (the most important and used tangible part of phone) it's not worth buying even if the deal is awesome. I currently use Lenovo P2, having an AMOLED screen, so not sure about IPS display and associated issues. Damn, I was really excited to get my hands on this POCO. Hope they will rectify it soon. But for now..... I have CANCELLED my ORDER.
shailendra1993 said:
I was checking out other phones that had this Multitouch issue, it includes Redmi Note 5, Redmi Note 5 Pro, Zenfone Max Pro M1, Nokia 7 Plus, etc. Do you know what these all have in common? The IPS display, this is also cited by Beembom and since Xiaomi is not responding to any thread that's created for this issue, I suspect more and more than this is a hardware issue.
Nokia 7 Plus, Redmi Note 5 and Redmi Note 5 Pro still has this issue and it even is present on custom ROM's. The only phone that solved this problem was Max Pro M1, Xiaomi has not got the brains to solve it. MiA1 (my last device) that has a very inferior processor never had this issue, because it has a LTPS LCD.
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Used rn5p for 6 months before selling off and buying this phone. Never had any kind of multitouch issue on rn5p, F1 however had the issue, got fixed after I turned off swipe to screenshot. As for lags, this phone HAS some weird problems like frame drops, but that's not related to multitouch issue.
kris_95 said:
Used rn5p for 6 months before selling off and buying this phone. Never had any kind of multitouch issue on rn5p, F1 however had the issue, got fixed after I turned off swipe to screenshot. As for lags, this phone HAS some weird problems like frame drops, but that's not related to multitouch issue.
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The framedrop is actually the multitouch issue. When you try to aim while moving the screen seems to skip right? that's the multitouch issue and not framedrop. If you are having actual framedrops then that can be easily solved by an update while I am not sure about multitouch because I tried everywhere from Twitter to XDA, none of Xiaomi representative is replying about it.
kris_95 said:
Used rn5p for 6 months before selling off and buying this phone. Never had any kind of multitouch issue on rn5p, F1 however had the issue, got fixed after I turned off swipe to screenshot. As for lags, this phone HAS some weird problems like frame drops, but that's not related to multitouch issue.
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According to the users on the RN5 subforum on XDA, the RN5 started having that problem after 9.5.6 or 9.5.14 update, they even migrated to Lineage but the issue still persisted.
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According to the users on the RN5 subforum on XDA, the RN5 started having that problem after 9.5.6 or 9.5.14 update, they even migrated to Lineage but the issue still persisted.
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And that means it's not a hardware issue. As for mine I jumped to miui 10 beta, and most probably didn't installed 9.5.6.
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shailendra1993 said:
The framedrop is actually the multitouch issue. When you try to aim while moving the screen seems to skip right? that's the multitouch issue and not framedrop. If you are having actual framedrops then that can be easily solved by an update while I am not sure about multitouch because I tried everywhere from Twitter to XDA, none of Xiaomi representative is replying about it.
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That's not multitouch issue, and I don't play pubg. Had some problem while playing some not graphic intensive games, fixed by turning off swipe to screenshot, and then reboot.
kris_95 said:
And that means it's not a hardware issue. As for mine I jumped to miui 10 beta, and most probably didn't installed 9.5.6.
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The post also said that the problem persisted even after going back to the last ROM
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That's not multitouch issue, and I don't play pubg. Had some problem while playing some not graphic intensive games, fixed by turning off swipe to screenshot, and then reboot.
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Didn't work for me though...
I can only hope that it's H/W issue, but shouldn't Xiaomi reply to my tweets and bug reports?
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And that means it's not a hardware issue. As for mine I jumped to miui 10 beta, and most probably didn't installed 9.5.6.
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That's not multitouch issue, and I don't play pubg. Had some problem while playing some not graphic intensive games, fixed by turning off swipe to screenshot, and then reboot.
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where to turn off swipe to screenshot ?
You claim the multi-touch is a hardware issue, and blame the IPS display for it?
You DO realize that the IPS display and touch digitizer are two physically different components, right?
This thread doesn't make sense, it's unscientific speculation.
shailendra1993 said:
Didn't work for me though...
I can only hope that it's H/W issue, but shouldn't Xiaomi reply to my tweets and bug reports?
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Of course they should have replied. As far as logic goes, I THINK it's a software related bug, also could be a hardware thing, most probably it's not.
Again, I think F1 has very sensitive to touch response, typing on this phone isn't quite ideal, as it detects my finger even 2mm above screen. Overall it's smoother than my usual rate, not quite ideal for ME, need to make the sensitivity lower.
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where to turn off swipe to screenshot ?
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Settings- additional settings- buttons and gestures- take a screenshot (set to none)
kris_95 said:
Of course they should have replied. As far as logic goes, I THINK it's a software related bug, also could be a hardware thing, most probably it's not.
Again, I think F1 has very sensitive to touch response, typing on this phone isn't quite ideal, as it detects my finger even 2mm above screen. Overall it's smoother than my usual rate, not quite ideal for ME, need to make the sensitivity lower.
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Settings- additional settings- buttons and gestures- take a screenshot (set to none)
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Oh ,it's already set to none ,don't have gestures to swipe left,probably mine 14 miui
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Hi folks I just shattered the screen of my Redmi Note 3 SD version (RN3). I had this phone since early 2016 and though it's still working and I could prolly do a service job on it for $50 and extend its life to a year or so I feel sticking to this phone any further wouldn't be to my advantage.
So I'm in the market for a new phone and I would really love to hear your precious advise so I may get the best available option for my hard earned bucks.
My budget is around $350. I'm not a brand fan boi, I don't mind going for unknown brands if the build quality is there. B/C with a good build quality you can get the best out of your phone under XDA. So when I go for a smartphone the features I pay attention to are:
1-If the phone can handle recent games. If a phone can handle recent games odds are high that it will perform well in everyday life.
2-It must have a great community under XDA so that if the manufacturers aren't arsed to push updates, you can still get the best out of your phone by for e.g flashing a custom rom or the Google cam or flash the latest security patch and so on.
3-The camera specs should be good (not expecting pixel3 stuffs or p30 results), but should be able to take good shots when I go on road trips.
Having said that, phones that have caught my eye so far are the Huawei Y9(2019 version) and the Xiaomi Poco Phone F1. So what do you lads think!
The Huawei Y9 is out as per your stated requirements as they don't even allow bootloader unlocking. There might be unofficial methods. Poco F1 looks to be the best choice but I don't know if the initial issues like backlight bleeding, touch latency etc have been fixed. Redmi Note 7 Pro is another decent option but the price difference between its 6GB model and Poco F1 base variant is too little. Realme has opened up BL unlocking but the pace of development doesn't seem very encouraging. Otherwise the Realme 3 Pro appears to pack solid hardware. Dunno when the Poco F2 will be launched.
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The Huawei Y9 is out as per your stated requirements as they don't even allow bootloader unlocking. There might be unofficial methods. Poco F1 looks to be the best choice but I don't know if the initial issues like backlight bleeding, touch latency etc have been fixed. Redmi Note 7 Pro but the price difference between its 6GB model and Poco F1 base variant is too little. Realme has opened up BL unlocking but the pace of development doesn't seem very encouraging. Otherwise the Realme 3 Pro appears to pack solid hardware. Dunno when the Poco F2 will be launched.
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Thanks for input. I though pretty much the same Poco F1 would be the best option!
SpawnX1200 said:
Hi folks I just shattered the screen of my Redmi Note 3 SD version (RN3). I had this phone since early 2016 and though it's still working and I could prolly do a service job on it for $50 and extend its life to a year or so I feel sticking to this phone any further wouldn't be to my advantage.
So I'm in the market for a new phone and I would really love to hear your precious advise so I may get the best available option for my hard earned bucks.
My budget is around $350. I'm not a brand fan boi, I don't mind going for unknown brands if the build quality is there. B/C with a good build quality you can get the best out of your phone under XDA. So when I go for a smartphone the features I pay attention to are:
1-If the phone can handle recent games. If a phone can handle recent games odds are high that it will perform well in everyday life.
2-It must have a great community under XDA so that if the manufacturers aren't arsed to push updates, you can still get the best out of your phone by for e.g flashing a custom rom or the Google cam or flash the latest security patch and so on.
3-The camera specs should be good (not expecting pixel3 stuffs or p30 results), but should be able to take good shots when I go on road trips.
Having said that, phones that have caught my eye so far are the Huawei Y9(2019 version) and the Xiaomi Poco Phone F1. So what do you lads think!
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Wait for Mi A3 . not sure its launching date. it is android one device. Bootloader unlocking is very easy for android one phone.
Updates will given by google and not xiaomi. Also u will get 3 android updates. Spec will be same like rn7 pro.
Or buy rn7 pro. It has QC 4.0 charging and 4000mah battery.
From Kenzo, I used Tissot which is Mi A1 and now lavender which is Redmi Note 7.
Redmi Note 7 aka lavender as of now has very minimal development going on based on xda threads available. But the good thing is that it supports treble so gsi will provide you with a lot of custom rom and me myself is using a GSI now. Violet aka Note 7 Pro on the other hand has a better development than lavender. It has great camera too considering you are using gcam to full utilize the camera and also lavender's camera is Greta as well but not as good as violet. Lavender has Snapdragon 660 and violet has Snapdragon 675.
im confused , plz answer.
is it worth buying poco f1 in September 2019? or should i wait for redmi note 8 pro?
Redmi note 8 pro has mediatek soc, meaning it doesnt support custom roms sadly. i think you should go for phones with sd855 soc, like k20 pro(mi9t pro) etc.
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Redmi note 8 pro has mediatek soc, meaning it doesnt support custom roms sadly. i think you should go for phones with sd855 soc, like k20 pro(mi9t pro) etc.
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My budget is 18000 - 19000 rs
Couple of Weeks back I replied to similar Question HERE and HERE so I am going to Extract my answers because they are still valid
1. the follwoing member had RN7 and was thinking to buy Poco so I replied ...
Since you are coming from RN7 and looking for change then here is my honest advice for you, unless pocof1 is on huge Discount price, DONOT buy & wait and seriously consider buying upcoming A3plus
why?
I am using this device for last few months and this is my review about it
1. I wish, I wish and I WISH xiaomi would have released this device on Android One. the developers on xda would have done so much with it!
2. since its on typical miui10 and may go on 11, you won't feel much of a difference coming from Rn7 to F1... Accept the
3. huge usles notch on top which eats 70% of status bar! , its really annoying and design fault!
4. after unlocking, i am using havoc since day1 , because i found f1 screen veiwing angels not convincing enough and needs certain fix in TINT, COLOR, BRIGHTNESS by Kcal so I had to Root and Use HAvoc. Yes I could flash any kernel even on MIUI but there is strange policy of Navigation Bar in over all MIUI that it stays WHITE most of the time and KEYBOARD switch key NEVER appears on NAVBAR, its in notification panel! so if i have switch to English (swiftkey) to Urdu Gboard I must scroll down the quicksettings panel and located "switch input method" in list of notifications to select different keyboard! .. this is a huge bummer for me and because of this factor I am going to buy devices not having miui or keyboards in notification panel!
5. also PocoF1 has MODIFIED VENDOR image from Xiaomi hence tweaks like VOLUME BOOSTER only works on kernel level which is still NOT GOOD enough in my dictionary. when i was on RedmiNote5pro, I had always alter Mixer Path file in system/vendor/etc to 120 from 84 ( RX mix digital line) which use to give BOOMING sound to all music tracks! but on F1, even I raise the volume to 20 from 0, i still miss the RN5pro tweak because PocoF1's vendor folder don't have Mixer Patch.XML file to play with!
6. since modified vendor+firmware policy. pocoF1 gives strange system UI crashes on usb tethering for 3g connections. (there is a fix but its annoying)
7. on hardware side, the device gets HOT easily! yes it doesnt hang but it gets hot! and scares you! (even on custom roms and doze enabled)
my mind is set on A3Plus because its going to be on AndroidOne out of the box, 6gb / SD710 (which predominantly has better temperature and battery control w.r.t to SD845) and A3pro had very small notch.
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2. This user asked many questions (pasting here ) and I replied ....
Originally Posted by GopalKaul
Hola!
I am a zuk Z2 plus user(it has sd 820). I am looking to upgrade from this phone to a good phone with 20k INR budget. Please help me-
1) is it worth buying in 2019?
2) are custom roms good enough with no issues?
3) average sot on Pie custom roms?
4) any issues with the device?
5) is camera compatible with gcam?
6) any other things you think i should know?
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1. only if you are getting GOOD Discount!
2. CrDroid is Good for PubG, but Havoc2.8 on Optimus Drunk Kernel is NEXT to Miui! (you can youtube "poco f1 on Havoc" and see for yourself)
3. on Havoc I get 6+ hours 4g social media Time.
4. I am high maintenance "sheldon Cooper" type person so for me any device has many issue but the following problems are with poco f1 (according to me)
a. Mixer Path file cannot be tweaked for Volume boost, only on kernel level which is still unsatisfactory for me. ( this is due to modified vendor+firmare image of poco f1 by xiaomi)
b. 3g usb tethering gives process crashing issues due to modified vendor firmware on all custom roms!
c. notch takes 60% of status bar
d. viewing angels arent that good! and kcal setting is must! but still often leaves me tears in eyes if i watch 2hrs of netflix movies!
e. no stereo speakers!
f. even on custom rom! device do get warm and later heats up! the software doesnt starts freezing/lagging but still disturbs me!
5. yes
6. wait little longer! and go for 5g phone with better display!
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It's difficult to compare phone before there actual launch. Based on paper specs:
PocoF1
+ Better CPU (Speed wise and 10nm vs 12nm on MTK)
+ Better community support (Mediatek CPU phones normally don't get enough custom ROMs)
+ Better face unlock (since it has dedicated IR camera)
+ Better 4g (it has 4CA, not sure what RN8 will have but probably won't be more than 3CA)
+ Lighter in weight
+ AptX and stereo loud speakers
RN8 Pro:
+ Water drop notch (vs full sized notch on poco)
+ More variety & Modern Cameras (although performance will only be clear after review)
+ Better Screen (Likely but again only will be clear after launch)
+ IR Port
If your budget is 19k, better spend 3k more and get Redmi k20 or wait for a sale/bank offer to get in your budget. CPU is just a minor downgrade compared to Poco but you get everything else like notchless AMOLED screen, modern camera configuration, etc.
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It's difficult to compare phone before there actual launch. Based on paper specs:
PocoF1
+ Better CPU (Speed wise and 10nm vs 12nm on MTK)
+ Better community support (Mediatek CPU phones normally don't get enough custom ROMs)
+ Better face unlock (since it has dedicated IR camera)
+ Better 4g (it has 4CA, not sure what RN8 will have but probably won't be more than 3CA)
+ Lighter in weight
+ AptX and stereo loud speakers
RN8 Pro:
+ Water drop notch (vs full sized notch on poco)
+ More variety & Modern Cameras (although performance will only be clear after review)
+ Better Screen (Likely but again only will be clear after launch)
+ IR Port
If your budget is 19k, better spend 3k more and get Redmi k20 or wait for a sale/bank offer to get in your budget. CPU is just a minor downgrade compared to Poco but you get everything else like notchless AMOLED screen, modern camera configuration, etc.
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Asus zenfone 5z or poco f1?
Jaydhinoja123 said:
Asus zenfone 5z or poco f1?
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Poco is lot better than 5z. So unless you're getting a great deal on the 5z, its not worth considering
Jaydhinoja123 said:
Asus zenfone 5z or poco f1?
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POCO F1 is the best phone you can get at ₹15K as it has second fastest Qualcomm processor. So don't worry just buy. But buy it from Amazon, because ₹1K cheaper in Amazon. Or else you can buy Asus Zenfone 5Z for ₹17K which is also a good option as it has great design & build quality and HiRes earphones in the box.
I'm planning to buy POCO F1, but i found that there is ghost touch issue... My question is :
1. Is the ghost touch issue not fixed yet?
2. Is it good for gaming like PUBG? Or at least is it have any touch issue( sensitivity, touch delay and latency?)
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I'm planning to buy POCO F1, but i found that there is ghost touch issue... My question is :
1. Is the ghost touch issue not fixed yet?
2. Is it good for gaming like PUBG? Or at least is it have any touch issue( sensitivity, touch delay and latency?)
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1. So far I never had any ghost touch. And don't use MIUI, use Custom ROM that can make your Poco F1 smooth.
2. It's good, i already tested it on any other FPS gaming. Just make sure your hand doesn't sweat more.
It's just my opinion using my Poco F1 almost 1 years.
I only face a problem with MIUI 11 because my Poco not running so smooth.
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I'm planning to buy POCO F1, but i found that there is ghost touch issue... My question is :
1. Is the ghost touch issue not fixed yet?
2. Is it good for gaming like PUBG? Or at least is it have any touch issue( sensitivity, touch delay and latency?)
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1. As far as I know the touch issue is display panel dependent. My panel is NVT and I don't have any touch issues with any rom that I have tried. But many FTS panel users are complaining about ghost touch. I think its overhyped.
2. It is definitely good for gaming. Put your graphics on smooth+extreme and see the magic!! And keep your forefingers away from the bezels while gaming.
And my personal advice is if you want performance stay on stock rom or find any CAF rom if you don't like MIUI. If you want features and regular updates go for AOSP roms.
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I'm planning to buy POCO F1, but i found that there is ghost touch issue... My question is :
1. Is the ghost touch issue not fixed yet?
2. Is it good for gaming like PUBG? Or at least is it have any touch issue( sensitivity, touch delay and latency?)
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Well, I have a problem with the touchscreen, if you would have the same "luck" as I have, I would say stay away from it. Better buy something else.
I'm considering realme 7 as my old phone (poco f1) developed hardware problems. Can anybody give me pointers how is the phone (india edition)?
Seems there is not much community support which is a bummer :crying:
Bro it has several issues like realme UI lag even you play subway suffer it has touch issue problem my phone got battery drain issue , heat issue so i suggest you to better go with Redmi note 9 pro max in diwali sale. The only thing i like on realme 7 is camera rest is disappointing
Brother honestly saying I'm using this phone R7 since last week , I haven't came through any major bugs that could be a deal breaker for me but yes I have noticed once or twice(only - not persistent) Ghost touch on my handset unless that using it seamlessly as daily driver .
Actually the thing which is now bothering me is the REALME.UI . Nothing wrong with the phone , on paper specifications/Hardwares provided are top notch at the price point I got this phone( RS.12700 - 6/64) only development sucks , I like stock Android Pixel experience kind of ROM & this Realme ui sucks with lots of bugs and poor Ram Management.
Thanks bros. Dropped idea of realme 7
Main reason was lack of community support for realme phones in general. Realme 6 users still also struggling to get proper root which is scary.
Got my poco repaired instead, hopefully it will last.