Hello dear XDA Experts
Which Xiaomi phone shall I buy (in Europe) that will be the most popular Xiaomi device for a long time (people will talk about it and buy it for a long time), have the longest support and have many and many custom roms made even after pulling it off the market and most of all custom rom Devs will love it?
Any answer is welcome to help!
BTW Do these devices met the above criteria? (Redmi Note 5 (Pro or non Pro, remember Europe), Pocophone F1, Redmi Note 6 (if it is available in Europe))
Flagship is what you are asking for, you should decide upon your needs because it is unfair to put the devices you mentioned in a comparison.
Mysteryagr said:
Flagship is what you are asking for, you should decide upon your needs because it is unfair to put the devices you mentioned in a comparison.
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If it were SPECS differences that I'm looking for then yes but I'm looking for not SPECS but something else (I wrote it in the topic).
Why is it unfair? Is it because You think that POCO is a flagship?
But Thank YOU very much for a reply sir!
Probably A2
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Probably A2
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Dude, really?
I'm a bit shocked cause in Europe the sales of A1 and A2 with all it's variants were nothing compered to Redmi Note 5 (Pro)
Thanks for answering but please tell my why would You pick A2 and which variant?
get the poco, or the note 5 (whyred). But I'd suggest poco because it's better, newer and more popular.
This forum is for Redmi 5 plus (vince)
Also. Redmi series are midrange devices with lower prices, poco is a flagship device with a midrange price. If you can afford poco, go for it. People are crazy about it now.
Nomgastro said:
get the poco, or the note 5 (whyred). But I'd suggest poco because it's better, newer and more popular.
This forum is for Redmi 5 plus (vince)
Also. Redmi series are midrange devices with lower prices, poco is a flagship device with a midrange price. If you can afford poco, go for it. People are crazy about it now.
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I am considering POCO but imagine that in Europe my native tribe has nowhere POCO in mall shops or dedicated electroncis shops. The only way to get it is by ordering online (not from China).
However, the RN5 (whyred) is widely spread in every shop. The online shops have always some percantage off the price of that phone. The sales of this model is beating every sale that both kind of shops had and thay can't keep up with supplying the overwhelming demand. So I think because RN5 (whyred) is so popular that it will get much more custom roms than any other phone. For POCO is to early to see cause they don't have it in local stores.
nah. devs will soon move on from RN5. Most custom rom devs are from Asia anyway so availability in Europe is irrelevant. Just check their XDA sections for both and see.
Nomgastro said:
nah. devs will soon move on from RN5. Most custom rom devs are from Asia anyway so availability in Europe is irrelevant. Just check their XDA sections for both and see.
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Did I understand You correctly?
The current situation is that in XDA's CUSTOM ROM section of RN5 (whyred) has less custom roms than the XDA's CUSTOM ROM section of POCO?
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Waiting on a Redmi 3S turning up, not finding much in the way of ROMs for it?
I'm wondering too. I am looking to buy a phone and my budget gets me to a Redmi 3S. It sounds amazing on paper, it's just the phone I'm looking for, but I don't know if it has any community except the pretty fishy one on the miui forums. And no global nothing. CM support is really low, but I guess I always buy phones that were released a year before and they are in their prime of the ROM support. This one has 2 threads on XDA with no replies. And the miui forums are filled with "Thanks" comments which look like filler accounts.
I really don't know if I should go for the 3 pro or 3s pro, or just get the bigger Redmi note 3. But I don't like big phones.
vlt96 said:
I'm wondering too. I am looking to buy a phone and my budget gets me to a Redmi 3S. It sounds amazing on paper, it's just the phone I'm looking for, but I don't know if it has any community except the pretty fishy one on the miui forums. And no global nothing. CM support is really low, but I guess I always buy phones that were released a year before and they are in their prime of the ROM support. This one has 2 threads on XDA with no replies. And the miui forums are filled with "Thanks" comments which look like filler accounts.
I really don't know if I should go for the 3 pro or 3s pro, or just get the bigger Redmi note 3. But I don't like big phones.
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if you want more dev support+heavy gaming then redmi note 3 is the way to go.if you want to use it just normally and u want devs support thn i guess redmi 3 pro is a better choice as it has better support than redmi 3s for now.
Just ordered a Redmi 3s
as a heads up, theres no bootloader unlocking as of yet (except risky unofficial ones) no root without unlocked bootloader.
i just got the 3s and i just bricked it
Well, the support for 3s is quite low at the moment. Not surprising. Two reasons - Most of the Xiaomi fans already got RN3, and second, it's just released now, wait for atleast a few months. BTW, I was going to order it, but then I heard rumors about a Redmi 4 releasing this fall with SD625 SoC & 1080p screen. So, if you want better phone with more development support, then wait for Redmi 4. But I guess, they'll release toned-down version of it in India to cut down the price. The worst case scenario for India users might be that they'll release R4 with SD435.
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Well, the support for 3s is quite low at the moment. Not surprising. Two reasons - Most of the Xiaomi fans already got RN3, and second, it's just released now, wait for atleast a few months. BTW, I was going to order it, but then I heard rumors about a Redmi 4 releasing this fall with SD625 SoC & 1080p screen. So, if you want better phone with more development support, then wait for Redmi 4. But I guess, they'll release toned-down version of it in India to cut down the price. The worst case scenario for India users might be that they'll release R4 with SD435.
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as long as it has SD card support i might get it. if the MI 5 had sd support id get that but it dosent and xiaomi is considering not using SD cards in the future (i hope they dont do that)
xdarkmario said:
as long as it has SD card support i might get it. if the MI 5 had sd support id get that but it dosent and xiaomi is considering not using SD cards in the future (i hope they dont do that)
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Well, Xiaomi wouldn't like to disappoint their fans. There's isn't any reason for them to drop SD card support. But, leaks are saying there's only 3GB 32GB variant of Redmi 4, so I wouldn't be surprised if they drop SD card support. Seriously, only a few people use SD card on 32GB phones, but all kinds of hardware supports are welcome.
I was in the same boat as you but then I cancelled my 3S Prime and ordered the Note 3. The ROMs that are on MiUi forums are very shady. Also the several variants with the same name (albeit different code names) cause a lot of confusion. The Redmi 3S Prime is a good phone but if you want XDA support, I recommend you get the Redmi Note 3.
Hi, I am kinda bored of my Moto G3 which have only 8gb memory.
I would like to buy the best q/p phone I can found. So I saw the Xiaomi's phone.
Then I saw the Redmi Note 3 Pro and the Redmi Note 4.
I am wondering, is the Kenzo/Kate still worth buying at the end of year 2016?
If yes, should I consider the Kenzo or Kate?
I don't care about 4G but I care about ROMS (=Kenzo), accessories (=Kenzo) and built quality (=Kate? Newer is better?) as the aftersale can be a real problem with this phone.
And what about the Redmi Note 4? I would trust him more for the build quality but I might be wrong... I know that there is a poor amount of rom/update but if the phone is smooth enough it might be enough for me.
My thanks guys
Go for the Kenzo, you won't regret it.
What you will regret though is wasting your money on the Redmi Note 4 aka a pile of trash.
Kicroy said:
Hi, I am kinda bored of my Moto G3 which have only 8gb memory.
I would like to buy the best q/p phone I can found. So I saw the Xiaomi's phone.
Then I saw the Redmi Note 3 Pro and the Redmi Note 4.
I am wondering, is the Kenzo/Kate still worth buying at the end of year 2016?
If yes, should I consider the Kenzo or Kate?
I don't care about 4G but I care about ROMS (=Kenzo), accessories (=Kenzo) and built quality (=Kate? Newer is better?) as the aftersale can be a real problem with this phone.
And what about the Redmi Note 4? I would trust him more for the build quality but I might be wrong... I know that there is a poor amount of rom/update but if the phone is smooth enough it might be enough for me.
My thanks guys
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Still worth it, i have the RN3 Snapdragon since 02/16 and was thinking to buy a new device, of course the build quality is better on the RN4 and it is looking a little bit nicer, but the RN4 isn't so smooth as the RN3 in some points, for example in gaming, the camera with ONLY 13mp / the software for the camera is also not good, but this is a known miui problem for likely all devices.
You can also find some threads in the miui forum, that Nougat or higher will not be supported for the RN4, but for the RN3 causes of the MTK-chipset. You can find hundreds of cons & pros at the miui forum or somewhere else but at all i'm thinking the RN3 is a good choice and take the Kenzo, more stable than the Kate one for me.
Hope that this will help you a bit :good:
Greetings
*sry for my bad english
Thanks guys
So you would run for this one?
https://fr.aliexpress.com/store/pro...-5-5-3GB-RAM-32GB-ROM/342812_32597684693.html
If i buy it I will pray that they won't release a 4 with 652 or a Redmi 5 in a month :v and that i won't have any hardware issue
I am not sur I can trust Top one, but they are the only one who sales the white RN3P
I want RN4 for design and smoothness but I am also considering Redmi 4 Prime for snapdragon processor
Kicroy said:
Thanks guys
So you would run for this one?
https://fr.aliexpress.com/store/pro...-5-5-3GB-RAM-32GB-ROM/342812_32597684693.html
If i buy it I will pray that they won't release a 4 with 652 or a Redmi 5 in a month :v and that i won't have any hardware issue
I am not sur I can trust Top one, but they are the only one who sales the white RN3P
I want RN4 for design and smoothness but I am also considering Redmi 4 Prime for snapdragon processor
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Yeah, run this one, Top One is legit and ask if you can get the phone SEALED!
I think it is running a custom vendors rom, not so great, if you can get it sealed, it would be better because you dont have to flash an original rom.
When you get it with a vendors rom, then flash over fastboot with mi flash, if fastboot isn't working, simply turn your phone into EDL mode, then flash it :good:
Look on Miui Forum for the tutorial
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Kicroy said:
Thanks guys
So you would run for this one?
https://fr.aliexpress.com/store/pro...-5-5-3GB-RAM-32GB-ROM/342812_32597684693.html
If i buy it I will pray that they won't release a 4 with 652 or a Redmi 5 in a month :v and that i won't have any hardware issue
I am not sur I can trust Top one, but they are the only one who sales the white RN3P
I want RN4 for design and smoothness but I am also considering Redmi 4 Prime for snapdragon processor
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A RN4 with 652 will never come and a Redmi 5 isn't planned for 2016 anymore, Redmi 5 maybe will launch in about 05/2017
Thanks, If there is no more white in stock friday (will buy it friday) can you tell me/gimme a link on how to flash a kenzo rom on kate without having troubles?
Is flashing rom then modem enough to avoid bugs?
Kicroy said:
Thanks, If there is no more white in stock friday (will buy it friday) can you tell me/gimme a link on how to flash a kenzo rom on kate without having troubles?
Is flashing rom then modem enough to avoid bugs?
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You need the LTE band 20 or for what do you want to flash kate?
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You need the LTE band 20 or for what do you want to flash kate?
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Kenzo have more roms, this is why I want a Kenzo or at least flash Kenzo roms on Kate. I don't care about 4g
I think this phone is still a good buy. I went with Kate just so I could get LTE here in the States. I was getting sick of 3G/H+ speeds with my past 5 Xiaomi devices.
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The only notable difference between the two devices seems to be the camera and processor. Camera isn't a concern for me cause I don't use it much but processor and developer support (read custom rom support) is very essential. So which one shall I buy?
stealthinator16 said:
The only notable difference between the two devices seems to be the camera and processor. Camera isn't a concern for me cause I don't use it much but processor and developer support (read custom rom support) is very essential. So which one shall I buy?
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If you can, you should just go directly for the 5 Pro, but stocks will be hard to come by for the coming months as it is kinda hot right now. The Note 5 does everything and isn't slow, but the 5 pro does it much better with the upgraded processor. Mostly the hardcore users would notice the performance difference from both. For day to day use, both do them quite well, as well as battery life.
Also. Even if you don't use the camera much, it will still provide better pictures for the times that you use them.
Custom Rom support would be good for this device as most Redmi users that look for an upgrade would buy this phone, chances are developers would join in too.
Overall, the 5 Pro is superior in some aspects, but the 5 Plus isn't something to scoff at either. It would depend on whether you think the upgrade is right for the price as both do quite well with their arsenal of specifications.
Domanshi said:
Custom Rom support would be good for this device as most Redmi users that look for an upgrade would buy this phone, chances are developers would join in too.
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ROMs for Note 5 are already out while development of Note 5 Pro hadn't started the last time I checked.
Anyways I have decided to buy Note 5 Pro. I'll try my hand at porting RR if nobody else does
stealthinator16 said:
ROMs for Note 5 are already out while development of Note 5 Pro hadn't started the last time I checked.
Anyways I have decided to buy Note 5 Pro. I'll try my hand at porting RR if nobody else does
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That's probably due to the fact that the Note 5 AKA 5 Plus has been out for a month longer before the Pro, but I'm pretty sure the Pro will catch up to the Rom supports.
Also, enjoy the 5 Pro. If only I knew they would release the 5 Pro, I would've waited, but sadly my z00a gave up on me so I had to buy the 5 Plus rather hastily.
Domanshi said:
If only I knew they would release the 5 Pro, I would've waited, but sadly my z00a gave up on me so I had to buy the 5 Plus rather hastily.
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Which variant do you have?
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Which variant do you have?
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I have the 5 Plus 4/64. It's an upgrade from my z00a and I have no complaints, but the 5 Pro is just better overall.
Domanshi said:
I have the 5 Plus 4/64. It's an upgrade from my z00a and I have no complaints, but the 5 Pro is just better overall.
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Do you live in China? It's called 5 Plus only in China maybe.
I'm just waiting for my exams to finish so I can get a new 5 Pro!
stealthinator16 said:
Do you live in China? It's called 5 Plus only in China maybe.
I'm just waiting for my exams to finish so I can get a new 5 Pro!
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No, I'm from PH actually. There are a lot of resellers locally and online, although ours here orders them from China directly through a supplier.It was pre installed with the fake global rom but Bootloader was unlocked so I was able to flash the EU rom.
You'd be lucky if you can buy it right now since it usually ends up out of stock. But maybe it was just in India.
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No, I'm from PH actually. There are a lot of resellers locally and online, although ours here orders them from China directly through a supplier.It was pre installed with the fake global rom but Bootloader was unlocked so I was able to flash the EU rom.
You'd be lucky if you can buy it right now since it usually ends up out of stock. But maybe it was just in India.
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Already unlocked bootloader?! I guess the reseller did it?
Here in India we have flash sales every other week or so. Stocks last for 5-10 minutes. So in April I'll find the date and be ready at the specified time.
stealthinator16 said:
Already unlocked bootloader?! I guess the reseller did it?
Here in India we have flash sales every other week or so. Stocks last for 5-10 minutes. So in April I'll find the date and be ready at the specified time.
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Most probably, since they have to install the Vendor rom which, AFAIK, would update itself automatically to the global version when it officially releases.
Well, that's good since it's an India first phone release, units would be high per restock there. Hope you get yours bud.
Domanshi said:
Most probably, since they have to install the Vendor rom which, AFAIK, would update itself automatically to the global version when it officially releases.
Well, that's good since it's an India first phone release, units would be high per restock there. Hope you get yours bud.
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Thanks man.
Hey guys
How can I know if my note 5 is pro or plus, China or India?
Thanks
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Hi XDA guys!
Everybody knows that Mi series goal is to be better than Redmi at least in specs and performance.
But how about performance to price ratio, how about all other things that You dont worry and dont expect in REDMI casue it's cheap but You do expect it in the MI series?
What are the problems/things that You don't like in MI series?
What are the problems/things that You don't like in REDMI series if there is any? WHY? Cause we all know not to expect wonders for a low budget priced phones.
I've talked to many people who had/have REDMI and MI series Xiaomi phones (clients, selllers, internet folks, friends) and they only agree on ONE thing -the price is great wheter it is REMI or MI phone.
A strange thing happens.... REDMI owners are always satisfied. The only thing that bothers not all of them is the camera quality.
But in low and middle price segment REDMI beats EVERY other BRAND.
Xiaomi has also great prices in the high end flagship models but here MANY PEOPLE are dissapointed.
For example camera quality, screen quiality, body, bezel, bugs, no NFC, no european B20 LTE band.
The MI users also tell me that non of the above bothers them but something totaly different. EACH person = an original problem with MI device.
Can You please tell me what are Your problems/dislikes with MI and REDMI devices cause I'm about to buy one from each segment?
What should I worry about (Android updates maybe?) buying a REDMI and a MI phone IN YOUR PERSONAL EXPERIANCE?
Don't get me wrong. I never had a MI phone but in shops they perform GREAT so I wonder what's the fuss is about?
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langster- said:
Welcome to Xiaomi Redmi series, aka the flagship killer.
The phones have the same parts as the flagships the only difference is that Xiaomi doesn't waste their money on advertising and doesn't steal huge profits from the customers so you get a better price.
Enjoy your new Xiaomi phone and welcome to the future.
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Wow, dude....
"flagship killers" - I introduced frist that term a couple of months ago in real life.
How did You know...? I'm shocked!
As for the rest you're right!!!!
Hi folks I just shattered the screen of my Redmi Note 3 SD version (RN3). I had this phone since early 2016 and though it's still working and I could prolly do a service job on it for $50 and extend its life to a year or so I feel sticking to this phone any further wouldn't be to my advantage.
So I'm in the market for a new phone and I would really love to hear your precious advise so I may get the best available option for my hard earned bucks.
My budget is around $350. I'm not a brand fan boi, I don't mind going for unknown brands if the build quality is there. B/C with a good build quality you can get the best out of your phone under XDA. So when I go for a smartphone the features I pay attention to are:
1-If the phone can handle recent games. If a phone can handle recent games odds are high that it will perform well in everyday life.
2-It must have a great community under XDA so that if the manufacturers aren't arsed to push updates, you can still get the best out of your phone by for e.g flashing a custom rom or the Google cam or flash the latest security patch and so on.
3-The camera specs should be good (not expecting pixel3 stuffs or p30 results), but should be able to take good shots when I go on road trips.
Having said that, phones that have caught my eye so far are the Huawei Y9(2019 version) and the Xiaomi Poco Phone F1. So what do you lads think!
The Huawei Y9 is out as per your stated requirements as they don't even allow bootloader unlocking. There might be unofficial methods. Poco F1 looks to be the best choice but I don't know if the initial issues like backlight bleeding, touch latency etc have been fixed. Redmi Note 7 Pro is another decent option but the price difference between its 6GB model and Poco F1 base variant is too little. Realme has opened up BL unlocking but the pace of development doesn't seem very encouraging. Otherwise the Realme 3 Pro appears to pack solid hardware. Dunno when the Poco F2 will be launched.
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The Huawei Y9 is out as per your stated requirements as they don't even allow bootloader unlocking. There might be unofficial methods. Poco F1 looks to be the best choice but I don't know if the initial issues like backlight bleeding, touch latency etc have been fixed. Redmi Note 7 Pro but the price difference between its 6GB model and Poco F1 base variant is too little. Realme has opened up BL unlocking but the pace of development doesn't seem very encouraging. Otherwise the Realme 3 Pro appears to pack solid hardware. Dunno when the Poco F2 will be launched.
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Thanks for input. I though pretty much the same Poco F1 would be the best option!
SpawnX1200 said:
Hi folks I just shattered the screen of my Redmi Note 3 SD version (RN3). I had this phone since early 2016 and though it's still working and I could prolly do a service job on it for $50 and extend its life to a year or so I feel sticking to this phone any further wouldn't be to my advantage.
So I'm in the market for a new phone and I would really love to hear your precious advise so I may get the best available option for my hard earned bucks.
My budget is around $350. I'm not a brand fan boi, I don't mind going for unknown brands if the build quality is there. B/C with a good build quality you can get the best out of your phone under XDA. So when I go for a smartphone the features I pay attention to are:
1-If the phone can handle recent games. If a phone can handle recent games odds are high that it will perform well in everyday life.
2-It must have a great community under XDA so that if the manufacturers aren't arsed to push updates, you can still get the best out of your phone by for e.g flashing a custom rom or the Google cam or flash the latest security patch and so on.
3-The camera specs should be good (not expecting pixel3 stuffs or p30 results), but should be able to take good shots when I go on road trips.
Having said that, phones that have caught my eye so far are the Huawei Y9(2019 version) and the Xiaomi Poco Phone F1. So what do you lads think!
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Wait for Mi A3 . not sure its launching date. it is android one device. Bootloader unlocking is very easy for android one phone.
Updates will given by google and not xiaomi. Also u will get 3 android updates. Spec will be same like rn7 pro.
Or buy rn7 pro. It has QC 4.0 charging and 4000mah battery.
From Kenzo, I used Tissot which is Mi A1 and now lavender which is Redmi Note 7.
Redmi Note 7 aka lavender as of now has very minimal development going on based on xda threads available. But the good thing is that it supports treble so gsi will provide you with a lot of custom rom and me myself is using a GSI now. Violet aka Note 7 Pro on the other hand has a better development than lavender. It has great camera too considering you are using gcam to full utilize the camera and also lavender's camera is Greta as well but not as good as violet. Lavender has Snapdragon 660 and violet has Snapdragon 675.