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I've been modifiying PDA phones for a while now but this is something I can't get over/should have expected from Sprint. GPS is present yet unusable on my Titan. I just now unlocked my titan and flashed to dcds 1.5.7/1.40.0 and I am hoping to be able to use the GPS with tomtom 6.
The thing that puzzles me is I read a post stating an indiviudal was using tomtom 6 on his mogul! how did he do it?
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I've been modifiying PDA phones for a while now but this is something I can't get over/should have expected from Sprint. GPS is present yet unusable on my Titan. I just now unlocked my titan and flashed to dcds 1.5.7/1.40.0 and I am hoping to be able to use the GPS with tomtom 6.
The thing that puzzles me is I read a post stating an indiviudal was using tomtom 6 on his mogul! how did he do it?
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he must be using a bluetooth gps device
so for now there is no way out? Is there any revision of this phone (Alltell, etc.) that has GPS enabled for application use?
av0, let's set the record straight here for a moment.
The mogul uses new hardware- chips that haven't been seen inside of Windows Mobile devices before. These chips allow services that haven't been available before either, such as EVDO rev. A and possibly assisted GPS.
Now, these chips may be capable, and HTC may be able to write drivers for it, but Microsoft never released the proper modules to control and take advantage of them. So, in the case of Rev A, we're waiting for MS to update some of their code so that HTC can release a new firmware, which will then be distributed to Sprint, Alltel, VZ, etc...
But for now, we have to play the waiting game. It doesn't exist on ANY carrier just yet!
Now, the GPS is the same thing... this particular GPSOne chip is new to the windows mobile scene. It supports some pretty nifty modes, including real stand alone GPS with an assisted mode- IE, uses the tower triangulation to get an even faster fix, then switch over to standalone mode (as opposed to the traditional way which is currently found in some PPCs, in which getting the initial fix can take up to 5-10min). Its in the chip specs to do this, but as far as I know MS's GPS modules only support standalone GPS information (no assisted faster fix), and its only been a rumor that Sprint/HTC would actually take advantage of this capability anyway. Either way, the phone was released before Windows Mobile was ready to use these higher-end features. We're waiting for them to catch up.
In the mean time, they removed GPS from the advertising, and Rev A has always been "coming soon".
Sit back. The rest of the phone finally works great now (thanks to 2.17 ROM, and a lot of great custom roms based on it), so one thing at a time. This great phone is going to get even better soon!
Concerning GPS...
Our Titans have the chipset for it and according to this FCC document, some of us (excluding Sprint Moguls) may have the antenna as well.
Someone in this thread extracted an Italian version of Kaiser's GPS files which I installed one morning and after playing around with it for about an hour, I couldn't get anything going. My Titan is cradled next to a large window all day and by early afternoon, I noticed a GPS icon in my top bar. When I picked up the phone, it went away and I was never able to reproduce it. I have no idea if it means I was receiving a GPS signal, but I'm hoping developments in activating the Touch Dual's GPS could lead to a working solution for Titan.
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Concerning GPS...
Our Titans have the chipset for it and according to this FCC document, some of us (excluding Sprint Moguls) may have the antenna as well.
Someone in this thread extracted an Italian version of Kaiser's GPS files which I installed one morning and after playing around with it for about an hour, I couldn't get anything going. My Titan is cradled next to a large window all day and by early afternoon, I noticed a GPS icon in my top bar. When I picked up the phone, it went away and I was never able to reproduce it. I have no idea if it means I was receiving a GPS signal, but I'm hoping developments in activating the Touch Dual's GPS could lead to a working solution for Titan.
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't the Touch Dual have the same chipset as the Kaiser?
The Titan uses a slightly modified Qualcomm chip for CDMA, and as such it should not be any suprise that the drivers from the GSM chipset don't work.
I'm of the opinion that the GPS control part of the chips are not the same because of the way CDMA uses the Assisted part of AGPS. Trying to port drivers from another existing device is a fruitless effort as no one has yet written drivers for our particular chipset.
THEY ARE NOT THE SAME.
Just sit back and wait for Sprint or someone to release it first. Then we can start porting it to all the other devices with this chip.
good bit of info on this thread. thanks guys
Dishe said:
The Titan uses a slightly modified Qualcomm chip for CDMA, and as such it should not be any suprise that the drivers from the GSM chipset don't work.
I'm of the opinion that the GPS control part of the chips are not the same because of the way CDMA uses the Assisted part of AGPS.
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** Correct.
if this new update from sprint/htc brings rev a and GPS, will that make it possible to enable the GPS on the verizon xv6800 (by flashing the rom or whatever it takes)
OMG the doors to the heavens above have opened.
I'm not even asking for that much! I just want the phone to not lockup and I want to hear my callers on bluetooth! This phone was so rushed out the door is shows bad.
If you chose other reason, please let us know why
Product page: http://www.samsung.com/sec/consumer/it-mobile/mp3-player/smartplayer/YP-GP1EW
Guys, let me tell you this: Samsung announced the devices that are gonna be on JB and they dont gonna update this neither. They did this with our players and they are gonna do it again with this. Buy something else. A galaxy nexus Or a nexus 7 are betters options
If you dont believe me read this: http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/0...more-devices-soon-including-the-galaxy-music/
The galaxy music is a cellphone not this device
If the price is right, i will get it, but i doubt Samsung will release it for International market.
I'm waiting to see what they finally release. I've been thinking about getting a Galaxy Nexus and just using that.
tbh, I was gonna wait to purchase it instead of my 4.0, but I thought about the price + the chance it probably wouldn't fit in my pocket.
It's probably gonna be around $300 on launch (although I'm not sure) and I only had $200 at the time of purchasing my 4.0.
There was a company called Yepp in Korea and it's Samsung's.
It's a MP3P company and that's why our devices are like "YP"-G70 or else.
And Yepp company takes care of our device and firmware kind of stuff.
This means that Samsung is not really fond of MP3P as they are toward its phone, Galaxy S series.
I wouldn't recommend people to buy MP3P from Samsung. Cellphones I will recommend, but...... MP3P?
I'll have to ponder about it.
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There was a company called Yepp in Korea and it's Samsung's.
It's a MP3P company and that's why our devices are like "YP"-G70 or else.
And Yepp company takes care of our device and firmware kind of stuff.
This means that Samsung is not really fond of MP3P as they are toward its phone, Galaxy S series.
I wouldn't recommend people to buy MP3P from Samsung. Cellphones I will recommend, but...... MP3P?
I'll have to ponder about it.
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Actually, YEPP is not a separate company. That's the name they've given to their PMP (Portable Media Player) line. YEPP is an acronym for something, but I forget what it means.
As for the Player 5.8, I speculate that it will be at least six months for it to release in international markets, because that's how long it took between the release of the original Galaxy Player in Korea and the West.
I am definitely going for the Galaxy Note 2. I am very reluctant to buy another Galaxy Player from Samsung again, as they charge full price for obsolete hardware and leave their customers in the dark with upgrades
I'm probably getting an ipod touch then, even though I don't really like is and the small screen.
The thing is it's too expensive, I would've bought the $200 16 gb if Apple released it.
Still waiting to see how are they gonna price the ipad mini lol
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I would have gotten an ipod touch this go around but they keep on neglecting GPS. Which is the one thing that would make me switch. Maybe next time apple.
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I would have gotten an ipod touch this go around but they keep on neglecting GPS. Which is the one thing that would make me switch. Maybe next time apple.
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Lol I don't even know what gps is.
What is it? How is it different from location service? How is it useful?
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Lol I don't even know what gps is.
What is it? How is it different from location service? How is it useful?
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GPS stands for "Global Positioning Satellites" and these satellites are the key to identifying your location on the earth. Devices with GPS have an additional part within them that allows your device to communicate with the satellites, and as a result the GPS satellites are able to pinpoint your coordinates on earth. Without a GPS receiver your device cannot communicate with said satellites, so no GPS positioning is possible outside any facilities. And, I say that because without a GPS receiver, the only other way to track your location is via your Wi-Fi connection. So, the location services you mentioned…I just explained them for you.
P.S. - Most technologies that exist as commodities now were first invented by the U.S. military. GPS is one of those technologies, as well as the Internet.
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GPS stands for "Global Positioning Satellites" and these satellites are the key to identifying your location on the earth. Devices with GPS have an additional part within them that allows your device to communicate with the satellites, and as a result the GPS satellites are able to pinpoint your coordinates on earth. Without a GPS receiver your device cannot communicate with said satellites, so no GPS positioning is possible outside any facilities. And, I say that because without a GPS receiver, the only other way to track your location is via your Wi-Fi connection. So, the location services you mentioned…I just explained them for you.
P.S. - Most technologies that exist as commodities now were first invented by the U.S. military. GPS is one of those technologies, as well as the Internet.
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So with gps you can use mapping/location app offline (no Internet access needed)? That would be great for turn by turn direction
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So with gps you can use mapping/location app offline (no Internet access needed)? That would be great for turn by turn direction
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Yes. I remember back in the day, when I still had my HP iPAQ, I was using TOMTOM maps for navigation. At that time, no handheld devices came equipped with internal GPS receivers, so I had to buy a Bluetooth GPS receiver to use with TOMTOM.
Nowadays, most devices (but, I guess not iPod Touches) come with internal GPS receivers, allowing for offline navigation if you have the available maps cached on your device.
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So with gps you can use mapping/location app offline (no Internet access needed)? That would be great for turn by turn direction
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There are basically three ways to identify you location on the face of the planet - when you are connected to a wi-fi hot spot, its position can be identified (not yours, so it's appriximate), if your device has a gsm radio, so it can connect to a cellular network, then it can identify your location by your proximity to the nearest towers on this network, it's called agps and many devices nowadays use this to identify your approximate position on the globe, because it's quick, and once they know your approximate position, they use gps to get your precise location. Well, and the last one is gps, which was already explained, a gps chip inside your device talks to satellites in the space to calculate precisely where you are. The advantages of this method is that you don't need to be connected to the internet via wi-fi or 3g, it uses less energy, so lasts longer and gives you more freedom. You need to have some kind of mapping software to be installed on your device for this method to work (like abovementioned excellent TomTom or Garmin or iGo, there's a whole bunch of them), but once you have one of these, you have a full featured car/personal navigation kit, with voice guided turn by turn navigation anywhere in the world where you have map coverage.
BTW, SGP 5.0 makes and excellent gps!
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There are basically three ways to identify you location on the face of the planet - when you are connected to a wi-fi hot spot, its position can be identified (not yours, so it's appriximate), if your device has a gsm radio, so it can connect to a cellular network, then it can identify your location by your proximity to the nearest towers on this network, it's called agps and many devices nowadays use this to identify your approximate position on the globe, because it's quick, and once they know your approximate position, they use gps to get your precise location. Well, and the last one is gps, which was already explained, a gps chip inside your device talks to satellites in the space to calculate precisely where you are. The advantages of this method is that you don't need to be connected to the internet via wi-fi or 3g, it uses less energy, so lasts longer and gives you more freedom. You need to have some kind of mapping software to be installed on your device for this method to work (like abovementioned excellent TomTom or Garmin or iGo, there's a whole bunch of them), but once you have one of these, you have a full featured car/personal navigation kit, with voice guided turn by turn navigation anywhere in the world where you have map coverage.
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You are correct, in a sense, to say that there are three methods of location detection. However, I respectfully disagree that location via tower belongs in the same boat as GPS and Wi-Fi detection.
Location detection via wifi is exact down to a few feet, which is based on an IP address. GPS tends to be very accurate, and depending on certain variables can be off by a few hundred feet.
Towers, as you mentioned, are more or less a means to an end. It offers a very, very general idea of location, but can off by up to miles. Again, as you mentioned this rough idea of your location is then more precisely pinpointed by GPS satellites.
Lol there is somebody who does not what is gps..i use GPS in my player 5.0 a lot with "my track" application ..and off course you can install some offline navigation for car ..i use IGo because it has best maps for my country ..(in apple maps in my country my town of 200 000 people does not even exist ..there is no on the map ) but for car i use tablet for navigation..bigger better hh.
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You are correct, in a sense, to say that there are three methods of location detection. However, I respectfully disagree that location via tower belongs in the same boat as GPS and Wi-Fi detection.
Location detection via wifi is exact down to a few feet, which is based on an IP address. GPS tends to be very accurate, and depending on certain variables can be off by a few hundred feet.
Towers, as you mentioned, are more or less a means to an end. It offers a very, very general idea of location, but can off by up to miles. Again, as you mentioned this rough idea of your location is then more precisely pinpointed by GPS satellites.
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Location via 3G gives me very accurate position in town to 10m but you can do any navigation
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Higgs_Boson said:
You are correct, in a sense, to say that there are three methods of location detection. However, I respectfully disagree that location via tower belongs in the same boat as GPS and Wi-Fi detection.
Location detection via wifi is exact down to a few feet, which is based on an IP address. GPS tends to be very accurate, and depending on certain variables can be off by a few hundred feet.
Towers, as you mentioned, are more or less a means to an end. It offers a very, very general idea of location, but can off by up to miles. Again, as you mentioned this rough idea of your location is then more precisely pinpointed by GPS satellites.
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Well, i wasn't categorising different ways of identifying your position, so you really have nothing to respectuffy disagree with. I just explained them all.
Location detection via wi-fi gives you the position of the wi-fi hot spot, so if you are close to it, your position is precise, if you are 100m away from it, your position will be 100m off. It is also stationary, it doesn't move with you, so it's useless for turn by turn navigation.
Location detection via towers can be quite precise (comparable to precision of gps location detection), depending on where you are. If you are in a densely populated area, like a city (with many towers around you), your location will be very/quite accurate, on the other hand if you are in a rural area, with weak signal you may not even get a fix.
My preferable way of location detection is through a gps chip in my device. This way i'm not dependant on any external factors (apart from satellites in the space and the charge of my device) and free to go wherever i want.
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Lol I don't even know what gps is.
What is it? How is it different from location service? How is it useful?
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"The Global Positioning System (GPS) is a space-based satellite navigation system that provides location and time information in all weather, anywhere on or near the Earth, where there is an unobstructed line of sight to four or more GPS satellites. It is maintained by the United States government and is freely accessible to anyone with a GPS receiver." Taken from Wikipedia.
It's used mainly for Turn by Turn direction and can be used to track travel distance. For instance I use the GPS with Runkeeper to track my runs/walks/jogs.
Location Service on the iPod uses Wifi Networks to triangulate your position. Which is good if your in a city with a lot of wifi access however if your not your boned.
I think the old Galaxy Players (4 and 5 inch) were made with spare parts from the entire Galaxy S (Vibrant,Captivate, etc) and Nexus S series which was quickly going obsolete. I seriously think that Samsung would support the new Galaxy Player series with legitimate updates. There's a pretty big gap in performance specs between devices that came out with Gingerbread and ICS and with the old Galaxy music player series coming out with Gingerbread, the performance before the ICS "spec bump."
I'm probably gonna pick up a 5.8 and develop ROMs for it if anybody was wondering. The specs should be enough for a few more years or Android releases
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If it is under $300 dollars maybe... $200 yes.
I live in Germany, but travel and work in the USA quite often. I have a US spec T-Mobile Note 4 and I'm thinking of grabbing the Gear S.
My Note 4 handles the networks in the USA and here well (vodafone), so I wouldn't be using the Gear S as much for data, but I don't want to be stuck if I need to use it and I don't have my phone. I will use it for day to day use and while traveling, as well as for music and fitness tracking while running. With all of that said, would I get enough functionality out of the watch if I purchased a US spec? Does the aGPS need a data connection, or will it be fine functioning as a distance tracker/mp3 player/heart-rate monitor without a 3G connection?
I guess that's the gist of the question. Calling and texting should work regardless, but will the aGPS work without data in Europe? Should I just get an EU model? I should eventually (2 years?) move back to the USA or to Asia, but by then I fully expect to move on to the next smartwatch.
I live in the UK and travel to the US. My watch was imported from Russia and I re flashed it with UK firmware.!
I suggest you purchase your Gear S in the EU. The mobile set up here is better for SIM use only purposes, and then use a US sim in it when you're back home. The Gear S is not locked to any network so should take any SIM.
Or simply use Bluetooth and run the GearS via the Note for notifications and calls, plus the health app etc. That's how I run it here.
Thanks for the suggestion. I think you're right. I'm going to see how my Note 4 performs for the next couple of weeks and then pull the trigger unless something new is announced imminent. I've got an OLD Motoactiv currently filling the role of smartwatch and it's great for fitness, but huge and the battery life and functionality are limited.
Gear S is dual band device. Regardless where you purchased, it won't work on both EU and US because the bands don't match. You will need a quad-band device to work. So forget about it being working any way other than tether to your phone via BT.
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Gear S is dual band device. Regardless where you purchased, it won't work on both EU and US because the bands don't match. You will need a quad-band device to work. So forget about it being working any way other than tether to your phone via BT.
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I already know it's dual band. I already know it won't work in both.
I was asking if at least the aGPS would work in both since I would have my Galaxy Note 4 which works in both for most use cases besides my fitness use which would need the aGPS.
Depends on which app you use. Without the network connection, S Health and Here maps are hopeless (takes very long time and Here map typically will give up before that). Nike+ will work as it does not try to resolve location on the watch.
Of course, if you have the phone with you, it doesn't matter. The watch will use phone's GPS all the time if it is available.
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Depends on which app you use. Without the network connection, S Health and Here maps are hopeless (takes very long time and Here map typically will give up before that). Nike+ will work as it does not try to resolve location on the watch.
Of course, if you have the phone with you, it doesn't matter. The watch will use phone's GPS all the time if it is available.
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Ok. What WILL use the aGPS without a data connection to track running? If there is something, I think I'll get a US spec for use in the EU since I'll have my phone in every other instance besides running with the watch.
If there isn't a way to use the aGPS without the data connection, I'll have to get the EU spec and just use my Motoactv on the rare occasions I want to track my running in the US while I'm on a trip.
Common mis-conception about aGPS. It is no difference than other GPS. The 'a' part means it can speed up the initial acquisition if there is a network connection to off load the calculation elsewhere. It still fully capable of receiving its own GPS signal. It doesn't mean the GPS won't work without the network connection. All modern cell phone GPS is like this.
Without a network connection, the initial acquisition takes a real long time (5 to 10 minutes depending on many variables) on the Gear S. With the network connection, it is about 20 seconds. Nike+ opt to record raw satellite data and let the server to do the calculation of exact location. It is extremely fast for Nike+ app to get lock and start recording (about 5 seconds or less).
Hey all
I got my honor 8x a few days ago, everything is perfect except one thing : the wifi on it is quite weak compared to my old phone (xiaomi redmi 6a which is a weak phone)
Anyone experiencing similar issues?
Thanks in advance
Honor 8x wifi 5ghz not enabled
I got my phone yesterday and love it but only problem is I have no 5ghz wifi. I have 4 other devices on my wifi router and they work and have been working fine. I do not even see an wifi for the 5ghz band...…………. I 've searched but see nothing to enable/disable 5 ghz wifi?
What am I missing...……… thanks
Well just got off Chat and Honor is telling me this version has no 5ghz...……….. I find that quite odd... attached are the specs
Honor 8X
hardware ver HL3JSNMN
Model JSN-L23
Build JSN-L23 8.2.0.133(C605)
EMUI 8.2.0
Android 8.1
IMEI 860060041318935
860060041348940
CPU Kirin 710
Ram 4gig
Int Stg 64g
Hardware Ver HL3JSNM
In todays age I can't see not having 5ghz wifi, can't believe they would sell w/o that chipset
Honor 8x not support dual band wifi
garythompson said:
I got my phone yesterday and love it but only problem is I have no 5ghz wifi. I have 4 other devices on my wifi router and they work and have been working fine. I do not even see an wifi for the 5ghz band...…………. I 've searched but see nothing to enable/disable 5 ghz wifi?
What am I missing...……… thanks
Well just got off Chat and Honor is telling me this version has no 5ghz...……….. I find that quite odd... attached are the specs
Honor 8X
hardware ver HL3JSNMN
Model JSN-L23
Build JSN-L23 8.2.0.133(C605)
EMUI 8.2.0
Android 8.1
IMEI 860060041318935
860060041348940
CPU Kirin 710
Ram 4gig
Int Stg 64g
Hardware Ver HL3JSNM
In todays age I can't see not having 5ghz wifi, can't believe they would sell w/o that chipset
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I couldn't agree more with you that a modern phone such as the 8x would omit 5ghz wifi in this age and time. Even my Samsung Galaxy from 5 years ago have them. I also bought the Honor 8x model JSN-22 which do not support 5ghz wifi either. This is the biggest disappointment I have with the otherwise excellent phone. I also search around for solution and found out that there are three variant of the 8x and only the model JSN-21 support dual band wifi ,the rest(like ours) don't. As far as I know JSN 21 are available in some European countries only, and unfortunately my friend, we got the short end of the stick!
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I couldn't agree more with you that a modern phone such as the 8x would omit 5ghz wifi in this age and time. Even my Samsung Galaxy from 5 years ago have them. I also bought the Honor 8x model JSN-22 which do not support 5ghz wifi either. This is the biggest disappointment I have with the otherwise excellent phone. I also search around for solution and found out that there are three variant of the 8x and only the model JSN-21 support dual band wifi ,the rest(like ours) don't. As far as I know JSN 21 are available in some European countries only, and unfortunately my friend, we got the short end of the stick!
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What about JSN-L42 does it support??
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I couldn't agree more with you that a modern phone such as the 8x would omit 5ghz wifi in this age and time. Even my Samsung Galaxy from 5 years ago have them. I also bought the Honor 8x model JSN-22 which do not support 5ghz wifi either. This is the biggest disappointment I have with the otherwise excellent phone. I also search around for solution and found out that there are three variant of the 8x and only the model JSN-21 support dual band wifi ,the rest(like ours) don't. As far as I know JSN 21 are available in some European countries only, and unfortunately my friend, we got the short end of the stick!
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My 8x max has 5ghz support, and the 2.4ghz archieves 100mbps so its using the latest antwnna agreggation technology. I have the chinese version.
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I couldn't agree more with you that a modern phone such as the 8x would omit 5ghz wifi in this age and time. Even my Samsung Galaxy from 5 years ago have them. I also bought the Honor 8x model JSN-22 which do not support 5ghz wifi either. This is the biggest disappointment I have with the otherwise excellent phone. I also search around for solution and found out that there are three variant of the 8x and only the model JSN-21 support dual band wifi ,the rest(like ours) don't. As far as I know JSN 21 are available in some European countries only, and unfortunately my friend, we got the short end of the stick!
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And JSN-23 also lacks NFC! I don't understand why they did this. Every other version of the Honor 8x seems to support it. It's so confusing that sellers were advertising the 23 as having 5ghz and NFC because the other versions had it. When going back to the sellers and letting them know - they are telling me I am wrong. Clearly there are some pretty big differences between the versions available.
All I can say is be very careful about which model you buy as retailers seem to be struggling with getting this stuff right (even online review sites).
5ghz not supported
So i'm confused, all specs show it will do 5ghz AC but the phones wont. Is this simply a disabled feature that the newest update will unlock or a Rom will allow or are we up a river without a paddle?
I have Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra (SM-S918B/DS)
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I have Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra (SM-S918B/DS)
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Same here Same model , only 2.4 & 5 ghz
if you want full speed tethering,you can use usb tethering.
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if you want full speed tethering,you can use usb tethering.
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This is not the problem, some S23U devices have 6 GHZ , others aren't " see attached pictures " I don't know if it is regional dependent or not
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This is not the problem, some S23U devices have 6 GHZ , others aren't " see attached pictures " I don't know if it is regional dependent or not
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Samsung advertises WiFi 6E on every model of the S23 in every market they sell into. I randomly loaded the specs page for several countries on the Samsung website and they all state WiFi 6E.
It's only WiFi 6E that has a 6Ghz band and if it doesn't have a 6Ghz band, then it's WiFi 6 and not WiFi 6E (WiFi 6 uses the 5Ghz band). So if you truly only have 5Ghz, send it back because the phone you have is not compliant with the published specifications.
In addition, in the second screen shot the interface is different. I doubt that this is a screen shot of a S23. Note the slider option on the left vs the list option on the right.
@tom_shon you say you have something similar. Could you post a screen shot?
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Samsung advertises WiFi 6E on every model of the S23 in every market they sell into. I randomly loaded the specs page for several countries on the Samsung website and they all state WiFi 6E.
It's only WiFi 6E that has a 6Ghz band and if it doesn't have a 6Ghz band, then it's WiFi 6 and not WiFi 6E (WiFi 6 uses the 5Ghz band). So if you truly only have 5Ghz, send it back because the phone you have is not compliant with the published specifications.
In addition, in the second screen shot the interface is different. I doubt that this is a screen shot of a S23. Note the slider option on the left vs the list option on the right.
@tom_shon you say you have something similar. Could you post a screen shot?
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The USA version right now is only showing 2.4Ghz/5Ghz option in the Hotspot settings. Returning it for another device will not change it as all the USA versions have the same option.
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The USA version right now is only showing 2.4Ghz/5Ghz option in the Hotspot settings. Returning it for another device will not change it as all the USA versions have the same option.
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Then sue them. They've sold you a non-compliant phone. See screen grab directly from the specification page for the US. It clearly states WiFi 6E.
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Samsung advertises WiFi 6E on every model of the S23 in every market they sell into. I randomly loaded the specs page for several countries on the Samsung website and they all state WiFi 6E.
It's only WiFi 6E that has a 6Ghz band and if it doesn't have a 6Ghz band, then it's WiFi 6 and not WiFi 6E (WiFi 6 uses the 5Ghz band). So if you truly only have 5Ghz, send it back because the phone you have is not compliant with the published specifications.
In addition, in the second screen shot the interface is different. I doubt that this is a screen shot of a S23. Note the slider option on the left vs the list option on the right.
@tom_shon you say you have something similar. Could you post a screen shot?
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When I changed my csc to eux It was enabled by itself with the same interface with the slider as the screenshot and then I could enable 6GHZ , from my search it is only avalible in European software unfortunately
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Then sue them. They've sold you a non-compliant phone. See screen grab directly from the specification page for the US. It clearly states WiFi 6E.
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Just because it states on the specs that it can do it doesn't mean it's been approved or even certified by the government or the carriers since Hotspot is a feature that carriers provide on your phone plan.
For those with Galaxy Watch 4's or with the new Galaxy Watch 5 or 5 Pro, some regions have access to blood pressure and others do not. and the temperature reading sensor is still not even working for any regions right now and it's been more than 6 months already.
Samsung did not sell me a non-compliant phone. It will probably be available in a future software update once it has been approved.
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Just because it states on the specs that it can do it doesn't mean it's been approved or even certified by the government or the carriers since Hotspot is a feature that carriers provide on your phone plan.
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Interesting - so the US carriers make customers pay more to enable it? That's outrageous. It works in Europe by default regardless of carrier and for no extra money. After all, it's just using data the customer is paying for already.
WiFi 6E spectrum is already US approved: https://www.theverge.com/2021/12/28/22857852/6ghz-wifi-win-fcc-wi-fi-6e-7-att-spectrum
cledee said:
Samsung did not sell me a non-compliant phone. It will probably be available in a future software update once it has been approved.
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Well, if it doesn't do WiFi 6E / 6Ghz then it's not compliant, even if they enable it in a later software update. This is the stuff from which class action lawsuits are made.
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Interesting - so the US carriers make customers pay more to enable it? That's outrageous. It works in Europe by default regardless of carrier and for no extra money. After all, it's just using data the customer is paying for already.
Well, if it doesn't do WiFi 6E / 6Ghz then it's not compliant, even if they enable it in a later software update. This is the stuff from which class action lawsuits are made.
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some carriers charge for hotspot, some don't.
look at my watch example. just because it's listed on specs doesn't mean it has been approved, so while they can list it on their spec sheet (they are not lying that it can be done) it still needs approval so that it can be available in your region.
In Europe a lawsuit for this would be easier to accomplish. In the USA, you would have to sue government agencies or even the carriers themselves, which is most likely a losing battle.
Blood Pressure check up on Galaxy Watches are not available in the USA because the FDA needs to approve it. Can you sue Samsung because this feature is not on your watch? Yes you can, and it will be thrown out because it's being held by the FDA not Samsung. Can you sue the FDA of course, it will be in the court for how many years and the FDA will state that it's not up to par with current medical blood pressure devices.
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Well, if it doesn't do WiFi 6E / 6Ghz then it's not compliant, even if they enable it in a later software update. This is the stuff from which class action lawsuits are made.
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Samsung doesn't advertise 6GHz hotspot and WiFi 6E does work otherwise. That's the death of your class action.
Damn, I changed csc to EUX now I have 6Ghz switch but looks like phone still making 2.5Ghz chanel even then I select 6Ghz hotspot and phone display this 6Ghz selection in settings. Bandwidth tests still give me only 50Mbit real speeds not 450 like with my OnePlus 7 pro phone.
Does anyone know how bypass this restriction for EU version phone? I am ready get root for 5Ghz hotspot if needed. 2.4 its just terrible for file transfer!
dl12345 said:
Interesting - so the US carriers make customers pay more to enable it? That's outrageous. It works in Europe by default regardless of carrier and for no extra money. After all, it's just using data the customer is paying for already.
WiFi 6E spectrum is already US approved: https://www.theverge.com/2021/12/28/22857852/6ghz-wifi-win-fcc-wi-fi-6e-7-att-spectrum
Well, if it doesn't do WiFi 6E / 6Ghz then it's not compliant, even if they enable it in a later software update. This is the stuff from which class action lawsuits are made.
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I doubt that that would have any leg to stand on in court given that the Snapdragon 8 Gen 1 and Gen 2 both carry a WiFi 6E Tri-Band Wireless NIC.
Devices have to be certified not only for connecting to a radiation band (2.4, 5, 6, 60), but also certified for emitting radiation on that band. the US has not allowed portable devices to emit on 6GHz for things like WiFi Direct and Mobile Hotspot, so these things you would need to sue the FCC over, which is not happening since they are not permitting certification for it currently, unlike the EU.